And the reason is thisrahulm wrote:This particular officer minimised the accuracy issue in auto (3-round burst) mode by prohibiting the use of rifle slings for his paltan.
Apparently, this practice produced stronger wrists and fingers resulting in better control and thus accuracy in burst mode.
This is the expertise of the person running the "firearmblog".That site is nothing but a commercial adspace for firearms. The articles are all assumptions or link to reports from papers like Times. Follow the site if you like hunting. You don't have to read any marketing articles from it.
Yes, the lack of recoil is kinda surprising. Must do wonders for the accuracy in full auto.koti wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MUp93HooCo
I've just watched this video. The recoil at full auto is remarkably controllable. And we are not even using the bipod here.
What do you mean? It seems to be firing exactly as it should. AFAIK, in burst mode the 2 or 3 rounds are supposed to fire quickly minimizing recoil.koti wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCBoTGKXVQs
In the`above video, the Insas fires single round and 2 round bursts like a fully auto rifle. Can anyone explain this?
Koti,koti wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCBoTGKXVQs
In the`above video, the Insas fires single round and 2 round bursts like a fully auto rifle. Can anyone explain this?
Good video, he empties the full mag in 5 secskoti wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MUp93HooCo
I've just watched this video. The recoil at full auto is remarkably controllable. And we are not even using the bipod here.
and thanks for posting this.It is the LMG version. Note the folded bipod under the barrel at the front of the weapon. The rifle doesn't have the bipod integrated into it, but the LMG version does.Rahul M wrote:koti is right, that looks like full auto. probably the LMG version as the vid says later.
No. Look at the second video. what i was referring to is the Insas AR not LMG....ArmenT wrote:It is the LMG version. Note the folded bipod under the barrel at the front of the weapon. The rifle doesn't have the bipod integrated into it, but the LMG version does.Rahul M wrote:koti is right, that looks like full auto. probably the LMG version as the vid says later.
The person firing the Insas AR(towards the middle of the video) fires single shot and 2 round burst without apparent change in the selector liver.koti wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MUp93HooCo
I've just watched this video. The recoil at full auto is remarkably controllable. And we are not even using the bipod here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCBoTGKXVQs
In the`above video, the Insas fires single round and 2 round bursts like a fully auto rifle. Can anyone explain this?
The second video doesn't show any firing in full auto mode. All they're firing is single shot and 3 round burst, which is what the capabilities of the INSAS AR are. You can see in the video before they start firing in the prone position, the chap in charge even yells to fire in single shot mode.koti wrote:My bad.......It is selector switch indeed.....
Can anyone address the full-auto behavior if Insas AR in the second video?
In the above video around the 1:45 mark where these chaps are firing the INSAS, the soldiers nearby use their hand to deflect the spent casings from flying away. Normally they would use a spent casing collector as seen in many pics on this forum. So question to more gyaani folks, how much force/energy does the spent casing have? Isn't it hot due to the propellant burn? How hard does it sting when it hits your hand or are these jawans just being macho?koti wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCBoTGKXVQs
In the`above video, the Insas fires single round and 2 round bursts like a fully auto rifle. Can anyone explain this?
Saarji, I think they're doing it to be macho really. The velocity of the ejected cases isn't that high, but they can get bloody hot. I have no idea why they're using their bare hands, when a simple sheet of cardboard would insulate and protect their hands so much better. Either that, or they should have put the two shooters a little further apart so the spent casings wouldn't hit the other guyMarut wrote: In the above video around the 1:45 mark where these chaps are firing the INSAS, the soldiers nearby use their hand to deflect the spent casings from flying away. Normally they would use a spent casing collector as seen in many pics on this forum. So question to more gyaani folks, how much force/energy does the spent casing have? Isn't it hot due to the propellant burn? How hard does it sting when it hits your hand or are these jawans just being macho?
To stop the spent cases from getting lost, there is another soldier next to the firer who uses his jungle cap/ cloth bags attached to stop the spent cases.Marut wrote:In the above video around the 1:45 mark where these chaps are firing the INSAS, the soldiers nearby use their hand to deflect the spent casings from flying away. Normally they would use a spent casing collector as seen in many pics on this forum. So question to more gyaani folks, how much force/energy does the spent casing have? Isn't it hot due to the propellant burn? How hard does it sting when it hits your hand or are these jawans just being macho?koti wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCBoTGKXVQs
In the`above video, the Insas fires single round and 2 round bursts like a fully auto rifle. Can anyone explain this?
A Times Square bloodbath was narrowly avoided because the machine-pistol-toting thug who fired at a cop flipped the gun on its side like a character out of a rap video, causing the weapon to jam after two shots, law-enforcement sources said yesterday.
When scam artist Raymond "Ready" Martinez held the MAC-10-style gun parallel to the ground, it caused the ejecting shells to "stovepipe," or get caught vertically in the chamber, the sources said. The gun is designed to be fired only in a vertical position.
If he had fired the weapon -- which had another 27 rounds in the clip -- properly, Martinez, 25, could have killed the hero cop pursuing him and countless others walking through the swarming tourist mecca Thursday morning.
Instead, Sgt. Christopher Newsom was able to return fire -- killing Martinez with four shots before anyone was hurt.
Completely credible saarji. First, a gun can jam for various reasons:
Bad range manners. It's max two to a booth right, unless this was a menage a troisA few minutes later, I saw it happen again. She was firing her boyfriend's HK USP and a spent casing bounced off the side of the booth...
The excessive detail because you must have been gawking like crazy 
Nah, it's one to a booth -- you want a divider in between so you don't get showered by hot brass from your neighbour. First time she squealed I didn't see what happened because I was shooting, but I saw her back out of her booth and hop around a bit. Second time it happened, I got a pretty good view of what happened as I was standing next to the back wall while my friend was shootingkaangeya wrote:Bad range manners. It's max two to a booth right, unless this was a menage a trois
.the Improved Magazine effectively reduces the risk of magazine-related stoppages by more than 50 percent compared to the older magazine variants.
Where all did you go?rahulm wrote:Today returned from a long trip of the Northern Sector and am back in circulation.
Had the great fortune to be embedded in and part of a weekly training live firing drill of the RR. Host specifically instructed the JCO to ensure I was put through the paces. End result was a trip to a valley with a firing range facility. All were in battle gear except I. We are talking live RR sectors here.
Was introduced to a AK47 and LMG. Fired off 3 x 10 rounds AK47 and 2 x 10 LMG at target. LMG was fired in single shot and burst mode. Had never held or fired either gun before in my life with my only experience limited to firing pellets from air rifles in my teens.
AK47 was fired in a sitting position and LMG in a lying down position. The LMG gripping technique while lying down needs getting used to. The elbows start hurting very quickly.
Firing was in done groups of 4 jawans and I would replace one of the jawans when it was my turn.There was always another jawan next to you with cap suitably placed against the weapon to collect empty shells. RayC has already alluded to this process. The technical term for this is "ginti ka khoka"
The AK47 recoil was far less than I imagined and depends a lot on maintaining the correct grip. The LMG bounced around a bit. This particular unit does not operate the INSAS currently although many have operated the weapon before.
My best score was 9/10 within the target. First attempt was 0/10. I was astonished to see first hand that most of the jawans were very good shooters. I also learnt what the smell of cordite is like having read this phrase many times in Commando comics and war novels. Its not a pleasant smell.
Have photos but would be error of judgment on my part to publish.
What would the IA do without kerosine?
Met with and broke bread with many Kargil heroes, both jawans and officers. Lots of other goodies that will have to wait for a bit until I recover.
Kersi, received your message and apologies for not responding earlier. Please get in touch.
Maz, will respond to your email.
As posted by others above, INSAS doesn't use wooden furniture. In fact, most modern assault rifles don't use wood either. Big problem with wood is that it tends to warp in different temperatures/humidity levels and cracks easier. It is possible to make a wooden stock that is more resistant to humidity and temperature, but this involves making it with laminated layers of more expensive woods (e.g. walnut) + proper finishing and sealing. Manufacturing a stock like this takes more time and increases the cost without bestowing any advantages over synthetic stocks, except for looking much more classy.koti wrote: But why are we still using the wooden furniture?(Or is it Synthetic grips with )
Can anyone compare characteristics of Wooden vs Synthetic grips like
1) Cost
2) Durability
3) Weight
4) Comfort in hand etc.
rayc17m/yahoo.co/ukrahulm wrote:RayC, not received any email from you. Probably, gone astray. I don't have your email address from previously.
Since MHA is allowing public comments on this draft, here is my email sent to the email address in the pdf:Gaur wrote:From Broadsword.
Private companies to arm police with modern weapon
I think it would help a lot in the long run. With the quality control problems of OFB, after private companies gain enough expertise, perhaps they can also manufacture arms for IA. One can also hope that with manufacturing expertise, in the future, they could also develop new rifles.
I think only the sniper was caught the spotter was able to flee.A very happy new year to you. I wish you a very happy and prosperous 2010.
I am very grateful for the fact that you are allowing comments on this draft policy. And, I want to take this opportunity to bring out one part of arms and ammunition manufacturing that has been left out of this draft.
I think allowing the private companies to participate in arms manufacturing is an excellent and a long awaited move. But, I think what the draft is lacking is any mention of manufacture of quality body armor. Among other things quality body armor consists of at the minimum, level 3 bullet proof vest, helmets, googles and gloves. In today's world, quality body armor and arms go hand in hand. Without quality body armor sir, our defence forces would be helpless against even a single bullet of any calibre or shrapnel from any explosion.
I would like you to see this real video, of a U.S. soldier being hit by a rifle round in Iraq at the 2.05 mark of this video. The soldier, falls down due to the impact but soon gets up and
points out the snipers position to his fellow soldiers who follow them and later apprehend them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqV_rmiSCZc
Sir, this is the kind of protection that our defence forces will get when they are provided with quality body armor.
Also, this video is not an isolated case of quality body armor saving a soldier's life. There are plethora of reports out there in the western academic circles and media as to how body armor saves lives. I have not seen any armed western soldier, police officer or a security personnel without body armor. However, it is a common site in India to see our brave Indian soldiers, security personnel standing in public places, without any protective gear at all bravely doing their duty. Without body armor, every bullet that hits our soldiers and policemen, is either fatal or takes them out of action immediately.
When a soldier is wearing a bullet proof vest he feels relatively safe and it gives him the confidence to fire back at the enemy without worrying too much about every
flying bullet. Therefore sir, I am asking you to please consider pursuing the development of body armor along with fire arms and bringing this to the notice of our law makers.
Once again, a very happy and prosperous new year to you