This way of dealing with TSP started just before Musharraf left the Country. It is headed more towards using National birds more and more openly and blatantly. There goes the Sovirginity.Instead of openly confronting the enemy,Americans might be adopting a Machiavellian way of bringing TSP in line.
It is only when the national bird becomes the B-52 that Paki behavior will changeAnantD wrote:This way of dealing with TSP started just before Musharraf left the Country. It is headed more towards using National birds more and more openly and blatantly.
Be prepared for a longer list to emerge.ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani on Saturday urged the international community to realise that peace and stability in South Asia can only be guaranteed if all outstanding issues between Pakistan and India, including the Kashmir dispute. are resolved.
Shahid Malik: I'm glad that you have made that reference that we are not moving fast enough because this is exactly what we have been asking the Indian government as well as our own investigations that please give us sufficient evidence so that it strengthens our hand {
India and Pakistan follow the same justice system
This brew, present in the history books our children are taught, has been gradually turning the average Pakistani into a paranoid and pessimistic android who, as if instinctively, lets out his frustrations by pounding the democrats with cynical blows, also swinging wildly at Pakistan’s many enemies he is told are lurking within and outside its borders.
In this mangled discourse, the documented horrors of the long military dictatorships that this republic has suffered are conveniently forgotten; sometimes even by those in the political and journalistic circles who had struggled hard for a democratic setup; they suddenly seem to lose all their painfully cultivated tolerance and patience, once that democratic setup is revived.
No wonder, in this day and age, we are still debating whether democracy is right for Pakistan, and/or is it compatible with Islam. It is not surprising that such debates crop up in a nation constantly injected with a heavy dose of dubious history which begins not five thousand years ago with the Indus Valley Civilisation, but many centuries later with Muhammad Bin Qasim’s conquest of Sindh. In fact, some textbooks have had no qualms of completely bypassing logic by claiming that Qasim was actually the first Pakistani!
He is 400% raw agent.Back in 1971, very few Pakistanis were willing to advise Yahya Khan to get into a dialogue with rebelling Bengalis. But today, after years of unprecedented violence perpetrated by the Taliban, we have many politicians, TV hosts, and journalists suggesting a dialogue with men who one can’t even be described as human. These people’s minds and those of their followers have been influenced by all the concocted and mythical moments of glory, and of justified hatred in the name of religion and patriotism present in our historical discourse and the false memories that it has created in us.
Unfortunately such demagogic claptrap still manages to pass as being Pakistan and Muslim history in the textbooks and on popular TV.
In Lahore, and other cities in Punjab, gas shortages have begun to hit domestic consumers. Though there has been no formal announcement of gas loadshedding, consumers report gas shutdowns or reductions in pressure that make it impossible to light stoves, heaters or geysers. To add to the gloom, we are now told power loadshedding of up to four hours a day has resumed. We are told it will be increased by December 25 – evidently as a kind of cruel Christmas present. The combination of life with neither power nor gas, as winter descends in earnest, is hardly something to look forward too. The shutting off of gas also presents dangers in terms of poisoning. It is true the Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Company has been issuing warnings about the need for caution, but the fact is these will not always be respected in a country where the literacy rate is barely 50 per cent. As for the suggestions from the company regarding gas conservation, while it is true that we must all do our bit to save energy, the prospect of wearing heavy coats constantly inside homes rather than use gas-heaters is, quite simply, an unrealistic one.
Sixteenth December is a shameful date in our recent history. About 80,000 Pakistani soldiers surrendered at Dhaka on this day in 1971, handing the greatest victory ever to a Hindu army over a Muslim force. Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister at the time, exulted at a public meeting: “Today we have erased the ignominy of a thousand years of our dark history”.She was referring to the long period of Muslim rule of the subcontinent, which began a millennium ago and continued for about eight centuries.
But it is a powerful commentary on our sense of history that while we remember the anniversary of our recent defeat at Dhaka and the loss of East Pakistan, we have allowed the millennium of the establishment of Muslim rule in present-day NWFP and Punjab to pass unnoticed. Muslim dominion over these areas was heralded a thousand years ago by the defeat of Jaipal and his successor Anandpal of the Hindu Shahi dynasty by the Ghaznavi rulers Sabuktagin and Mahmud in four memorable battles. The territories over which Jaipal ruled at the time of his warfare with Sabuktagin included Peshawar and Lahore and according to Tarikh-e-Ferishta extended “in length from Sirhind to Laghman and in breadth from the kingdom of Kashmir to Multan.” In the ninth century the kingdom of the Shahis had been even bigger and included parts of Afghanistan around Kabul. It had since lost most of the territories in Afghanistan to the advancing tide of Muslims from central Asia but still comprised Laghman west of Jalalabad.
Over the past half century, the teaching of history has been downgraded in our educational system. There is little research and the number of quality books being written is negligible. Moreover, the history of Pakistan has been redefined to mean either the history of the Pakistan movement or that of Muslim rule of South Asia. The former is a very partial and the latter a selective approach. It means that the two and a half centuries of decline of Muslim political power after Aurangzeb are largely blacked out from our text-books. Our younger generation knows very little of the Maratha ascendancy and of Sikh rule over Punjab and – briefly over NWFP – that followed the collapse of Mughal power. The pre-Islamic period also receives very little mention.
A nation’s history includes all those past events which have shaped its character. The more recent they are, they more they are likely to have impacted on the present. Pakistan is a country with a long and rich history. Like the history of other nations, ours too had its ups and downs, its triumphs and setbacks. We need to remember all of them.
Henry S Commager, an American historian, wrote: “A people without a history is like a man without memory.” A corollary of this dictum is that a nation that it is selective about its history is like a man with partial amnesia. Clearly, we need to jog our collective historical memory.
Everytime they try to slip in reduced numbers , the 90,000 figure should be hammered back into their heads !Sixteenth December is a shameful date in our recent history. About 80,000 Pakistani soldiers surrendered at Dhaka on this day in 1971, handing the greatest victory ever to a Hindu army over a Muslim force.
I'm pretty sure this is pure BS. This Zaidi is a member of the paki foreign service - lying comes naturally to them. This is akin to another story about how when Israel retook Jerusalam, apparently Moshe Dayan said - 'Saladin we are back'Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister at the time, exulted at a public meeting: “Today we have erased the ignominy of a thousand years of our dark history”. She was referring to the long period of Muslim rule of the subcontinent, which began a millennium ago and continued for about eight centuries
. . . main petitioner in the case {of NRO} was none other than an old political associate of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, and a co-founder of the party back in 1967. . . . But the 88-year-old Mubashir Hasan, whose petition against the NRO became a cause celebre in the country with the verdict setting off political tremors, believes the judgment will bring about no fundamental changes in Pakistan.
“The people of Pakistan are extremely happy, so I’m happy too. But since I know the reality, I do not entertain the hope that this will stop the state of Pakistan from falling apart,” he said. . . The judgment may delay the process, but Pakistan was destined to perish unless it underwent a radical reconstruction, he predicted . . . Taking a side-swipe, he said this was true for India and Bangladesh too, except that Pakistan’s condition was far worse. {That is pure, unadulterated Pakiness in full display}
Dr. Hasan, who parted ways with the PPP when Benazir Bhutto took charge of it after her father’s hanging, is seen as one of the few good men left in Pakistan, reputed both for his personal and political integrity and razor-sharp intellect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JM_Tq5LGgc"Did you read about the army officer's plea
For donor's blood, it was given willingly
by boys who took a needle in their veins
and from their bodies
every drop of blood was drained
no time to comprehend..
and there was little pain"
Nayak wrote:Pakistan turns down Indian oil proposal
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... l---szh-04
However, sources said that strong reservations have been expressed on the ground that such an arrangement would provide an opportunity to India to become a regional player.
This is what our children need to know because this is the cancer they will be required to deal with. Do not allow secularism to come in the way of telling your children the truth about what Pakistan has been doing in the name of Islam.Jarita wrote: Psyche is totally damaged. It will require multiple generations for them to become human again
Gagan a part of the song and the shootings at Dhaka university campus feature in this montage of video clips about the genocide in East Pakistan by Pakistani army soldiers. IIRC a young Indian lass called Angana Chatterjee denies that it occurred at all.Gagan wrote:The stanza before this refers to the attack on the Dhaka University campus and Hostels.
She says something like the students were killed in their sleep and from the corridors women shrieks came.
arnab wrote:I'm pretty sure this is pure BS. This Zaidi is a member of the paki foreign service - lying comes naturally to them. This is akin to another story about how when Israel retook Jerusalam, apparently Moshe Dayan said - 'Saladin we are back'Indira Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister at the time, exulted at a public meeting: “Today we have erased the ignominy of a thousand years of our dark history”. She was referring to the long period of Muslim rule of the subcontinent, which began a millennium ago and continued for about eight centuries
Taliban courses now at your doorstep
The militants, who were earlier making good use of CDs and DVDs as a means of spreading propaganda, terrorising people and glorifying their victories in the battlefield, have now turned to the same media for training hopeful militants. The CDs provide information regarding physical fitness requirement of a militant, using modern weaponry and developing bombs out of raw material.
These CDs not only focus on providing theoretical guidance, but also display militants in action as they operate different weapons and produce bombs.
Some shots from the battlefield are also included in these CDs, which give the watchers an idea on how they should attack the enemy and then escape from the battlefield.
The training CD, which contains a 54-minute long video, also shows a man developing a suicide jacket and explaining what material to use to make it functional.
Some of the shots included in the CD have been taken from the battlefield of Helmand and some from the attacks on Pakistani security forces. {Allah-o-Akbar. The pious killing the less pious.}
According to sources, the CDs were developed in the country’s tribal areas and then distributed by the militants “through proper channels”.
kasthuri wrote:TSP high-commissioner in Devil's Advocate: Ball is in India's court, it must talk: Pak envoy
Karan Thapar: I will accept that argument with one small quote to say judge can't do any of the things when he is not there. The problem is that you have changed judges so often and in changing judges so often delays have been imposed.
Let's come to a more substantive sense in which India believes that Pakistan is in fact dragging its feat. Let's take the example of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD). The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) has put it on the terrorist list and yet even today that organization operates completely freely in Pakistan.
It raises funds, it recruits cadres, it even distribute leaflets on the streets calling upon the people to join Jihad against Kashmir. Why are these things permitted?
Shahid Malik: You are referring to the UNSC-1267. Once that came to affect in the government of Pakistan took immediate steps and proscribed Jamaat-ud-Dawa.
Karan Thapar: Forgive me. You have not proscribed Jamaat-ud-Dawa.
Shahid Malik: No.
Karan Thapar: You have not proscribed Jamaat-ud-Dawa?
Shahid Malik: Let me tell you the assets of the operatives of Jamaat-ud-Dawa they were frozen, there was travel ban, restrictions on their movement, there was restriction on their activities.
Karan Thapar: I'm correcting the mistake that you have made when you said you proscribed Jamaat-ud-Dawa. When Hafiz Mohammed Saeed was arrested by you in September in the anti-terror charge for different reasons not just connected to Mumbai, he was released by the Lahore High Court because it was proven in court that the Jamaat-ud-Dawa was not a proscribed and banned organisation. Really you have not banned it.
Shahid Malik: Fair enough. But the fact of the matter is that who ever forms part of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa, the operatives-- there assets have been frozen, their activities have been restricted, all the practical steps that were required to be taken by the government of Pakistan have been taken.
Karan Thapar: I hate to contradict you and embarrass you, High Commissioner.
Shahid Malik: I'm not embarrassed at all.{of course not, lying comes naturally to us.}
Closure of mosques at night ordered
By Syed Irfan Raza
Monday, 21 Dec, 2009
ISLAMABAD: The government on Sunday directed local Ulema to close mosques after Isha prayers to ensure no suspect stayed in them at night.
The decision was conveyed to the Ulema by Interior Minister Rehman Malik after he took part in a rally in the federal capital on Sunday to promote religious harmony during Muharram.
Sources in security departments said the orders would specifically be implemented in Islamabad but it may be followed in other parts of the country by provincial governments.
When contacted, Deputy Commissioner Islamabad Amir Ali Ahmed said Ulema had assured the government that they would keep mosques locked after Isha prayers and reopen them for Fajar prayers.
‘It is feared that suspects can hide in mosques at night and carry out their nefarious designs (terrorism activities) in the day time,’ the official said.
The possibility of any suspect staying in mosques at night has increased especially after the local administration decided to keep a close watch on the clients of hotels, inns and guest houses. ...........................
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