Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

[Dilbu]

It is just sound bytes. But what the heck, the rice eating dhothi walas are always after aman ki asha. So its worth a try.

[sreeji]

Meanwhile in Yawn

Tharoor ignited controversy in September when he joked on Twitter about flying economy class with “holy cow” politicians in response to new government austerity measures.

Cows are considered sacred in Hindu-majority India and Tharoor faced resignation calls from the opposition and even some members of his ruling Congress Party

Dawn has a history of clever subtle psyops like this. Just wanted to point out this face of liberal media in between all this aman ki tamasha.

[R Vaidya]

ToI has a private treaty system wherein any company or individual who pays money and enters this treaty- through a company Media Net-can have edit page etc news space available to them.
The contract does provide for equity allotment in the company which can be sold by TOI later when the company goes public.
TOI has such schemes with more than 200 companies and actually lost heavily when the share markets fell last year.
Any ISI- D group sponsored company could have funded recently a large portion to gain space.
Owners of TOI will sell anything- including their mother as a wag put it- for a price.
The so called rightist or Hindu groups are to be squarely blamed for not having any media and for their ostrich attitude even after being in power for six years.they go on and on about macauly/ marxist bias of news papers without doing anything inspite of having plenty of money bags with them.
They think public opinion can be moulded from vaccum.
R.Vaidya

[sum]

This message was today printed by them on a full page on the second page of the newspaper.

In fact, they have two full pages dedicated for this nonsense 'Aman ki Asha'. Who is paying for all that ? This is appearing in all editions of ToI and must be costing a tidy sum.

This is getting more and more bizarre. I really doubt that a professional psy-ops operation would be so blatantly over the top. How does the ToI expect to have a impact when they print stories of "Aman ki Asha" and some new anti-Indian Paki terror plot being busted side by side?

What is this about then?

[shiv]

This message was today printed by them on a full page on the second page of the newspaper.

In fact, they have two full pages dedicated for this nonsense 'Aman ki Asha'. Who is paying for all that ? This is appearing in all editions of ToI and must be costing a tidy sum.

Jang, and American money perhaps?

[shaardula]

aman ki aakhri aas
pakistan ka sarvanash

[anupmisra]

Goooood morning, pa'astan. One more dhamaka in the land of the martial mards. This new year is off to a memorable start. What is it now? Three for three? Also, please note the change in tactics. Not a soocide bomber but a remote controlled blast. More like the tellibunnies are seeking targets of opportunity.

PESHAWAR: A roadside bomb attack targeted a former NWFP provincial cabinet minister on Sunday, killing him and three other people in the country's northwest, police said. “It was a remote-controlled roadside bomb blast,” police spokesman Fazal Naeem told AFP by telephone.

[Stan_Savljevic]

Question: what does aman mean? On the first read, aman and asha sounded like a tfta and sdre name (respectively) to this neanderthal. I guess I am naive in suspecting peaceniks to be sexist.

[archan]

If nationalists had any sense of unity, TOI would have been getting mass unsubscriptions by now. Let it hurt the business and we will see how strong is the asha.

[shaardula]

aman = amedhi, peace

[anupmisra]

India- why do we hate you?
From the desk of a porki. Of course, in all this count down rant, porkistan comes out the worst affected. Some nuggets:

Why is South Asia so tense?

For the past 63 years, South Asia has remained in a state of tension. The eight countries that make up this geopolitically sensitive region do not share a friendly and harmonious relationship with each other.

Let me guess. What happened 63 years ago that broke the 1000 years of tranquility?

All these countries have a closely interwoven history and common ethnic, linguistic, cultural and religious heritage but still they failed. It happened because all the contiguous states on India’s periphery are fearful of its hegemonic designs and its policy to dominate and dictate.

Bang! Get right down to the point. Some more rants:

Instead of accepting Pakistan’s emergence in 1947 as a reality and resolving bilateral disputes in a spirit of understanding, India adopted a belligerent course.

(W)hy do other countries of the region find it so difficult to forge a closer relationship with India? Why is it that India has failed to evoke trust and confidence among its neighbours to make any worthwhile collaboration impossible, including Saarc? Isn’t it time for hostilities to give way to a congenial environment among South Asian neighbours too?

Can't we all just get along?

So, lets go down the list of grievances those little, unhappy and unprotected neighboring countries have with India:

In Sri Lanka, India overtly and covertly supported the insurgency against the state by LTTE, a nationalist Tamil group in the northern Jaffna region of this small island country, which kept it politically and economically destabilised for decades.

Thanks to Allah, puki help came just in time to get rid of them Tamils.

With Bangladesh it is locked in an unresolved dispute over Farakka barrage that deprives Bangladesh of its water share.

This heinous act has turned Bangladesh into a dry nation.

The tiny mountain state of Nepal has complained of persistent Indian dictation and interference in its internal affairs. That India employs economic blockades and manipulates transit facilities to this poor landlocked country for arm twisting is no secret.

Thanks be to Allah's messenger, the "Tallel than the tallel.....Fliends" the Nepalis now have a clean, open and democratic polity. Peace prevails.

And, last but not the least; Pa'astan. That god's gift to mankind and goats, that nation where peace and tranquility pervades every nook and cranny. That beknighted land of milk and honey where fair maidens and muscled men frolic on its green pastures. How has India under cut that nation of people whose destiny it was to rule the world? Read on:

With Pakistan, India maintains the worst of relations mainly because of Pakistan’s political and military standing and its ability to reject Indian domination. Outstanding disputes including Kashmir, water distribution, dams that India constructs in violation Indus Water Treaty and border issues have remained unresolved.

Ah! The K-word. The very reason why the land is called pa'astan!

By joining the American bandwagon in Afghanistan and positioning its troops in the name of infrastructure development, India created enough concerns for Pakistan

. So, its also the yanks. eh?

But by its collusion with CIA and Mossad to take out Pakistan’s nuclear assets through subversion in Fata, the NWFP and other areas using the militants of Tehrik-i-Taliban, India is slamming shut the door on the peace process that Pakistan has been persistently trying to keep open ever since 1947.

And the yehudis!

That growing Indian influence in Afghanistan is a destabilising factor in the region

And don't forget the Afghans!

The Indian (read: Yindoo?) psyche that breeds arrogance and expansionism is clear from the words of Pundit Nehru, India’s first prime minister, who said ‘India must dominate or perish’. Perish it will not. So dominate it must. To Hindu extremists, all others on this land are aliens who do not belong there and this includes Muslims and Christians. This justifies the commonly witnessed ethnic cleansing of non-Hindus and leads to the ultimate dream of the creation of Vrihata Bharat — a Greater India.

What can I say but

And the once again final conclusion:

To ensure that this fatherland is reunited under Hindu rule, India pursues designs of expanding its boundaries to eventually include Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Burma, Nepal, and Bhutan and create the huge Indian empire.

By the way, Professor Shahid R. Siddiqi is reachable by email: [email protected] (yes! he has his own email). He is also available to do seminars, available for talk shows, birthday parties, bar and bat mitzvah, and funeral services. He has his own show called "My Sky is Orange" which follows Zain "Mahdi" Hamid's (pbuh) "Bras Attack".

[anupmisra]

If nationalists had any sense of unity, TOI would have been getting mass unsubscriptions by now. Let it hurt the business and we will see how strong is the asha.

TOI should merge with Jang to target a bigger market including 1.5 Billion enlightened peace-loving people whose destiny is to live another 1000 years in peace. BTW, doesn't Jang mean War? See the irony here? Jang and Aman. War and Peace. The Sequel.

[Jarita]

Curious as to what the drivers of this Aman ki Asha nonsense are
- Folks seeks asylum in India given the civil war raging in Pakistan
- Prevent a conventional war with India by shaping public opinion

Any thoughts! I don't think this has come out of the dreams of some tobacco stained jholawallah

[archan]

Is Prof. Siddiqui trying to get a piece of the lucrative Zaid Zaman Hamid strategic pie? I hope he has a lal topi ready..

[SSridhar]

I think it was Paul who asked in the IWT thread as to why Mushahid Mandela Hussain was keeping quiet these days. As if on cue, he has spoken. What does he say ? He supports Sunni Tehreek (ST) and speaks on their platform and hopes this Berelvi terrorist organization will be removed from the government's watch-list.

Addressing a news conference along with Sunni Tehrik leader Sarwat Ejaz Qadri at the Markaz-e-Ahle-Sunnat today, he descried the Ashura blast as an attack on the country’s economy.

The Sunni Tehrik was an effective political party, he said and hoped that the government would soon remove its name from the watch list.

Mushahid Mandela Hussain's appeal may be even heard and acted upon because the greatest mystical saint of Islam, Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gilani, was a Berelvi and one of whose direct descendants is Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani.

Let us be clear about ST. It takes on Sunni Deobandi SSP and Sunni Ahl-e-Hadees LeT. This is a militant offshoot of Jama'at Ahl-e-Sunnat, the Berelvi umbrella organization.

[anuj]

CT alert,
Regarding AkiA. It sounds like psy-ops. The name is interesting - Aman(muslim boy) ki Asha(hindu girl). It appears that someone is trying to move someone. A skilled leader entices the enemy with something he is sure to take. In event of a war, he uses it to distract him. In psy-ops, he uses it to influence or achieve something. What does he want to achieve? If GoI was a part of it, then i'd assume it is psy-ops. But this is between two newspaper companies. The name is probably a co-incidence.

At the most, if ToI does want to achieve something then it is probably to pacify a few souls in pakiland. I do not see any effect of it in india. The worst i can think of is a bunch of pakistani students will get invited on zee tv or sony in singing and dance competitions.

[vavinash]

If porki slimy students are invited then we should see that they meet a few of the dreaded maoists that have overrun India(as per dawn and jang). A few dead bodies sent back will put an end to this farce. OFcourse taking out the jai chands in our midst would be even better.

[abhijitm]

If nationalists had any sense of unity, TOI would have been getting mass unsubscriptions by now. Let it hurt the business and we will see how strong is the asha.

I second that and strongly recommend people not to buy TOIlet and also stop reading their website.
Sad to see once respected newspaper going bonkers. This is the time every patriot indian should stop buying TOIlet and also recommend others to follow.

I swear I will not buy TOIlet. Who is with me?

[Avinash R]

If nationalists had any sense of unity, TOI would have been getting mass unsubscriptions by now. Let it hurt the business and we will see how strong is the asha.

I second that and strongly recommend people not to buy TOIlet and also stop reading their website.
Sad to see once respected newspaper going bonkers. This is the time every patriot indian should stop buying TOIlet and also recommend others to follow.

I swear I will not buy TOIlet. Who is with me?

count me in, i also have stopped buying chindu -- xinhua's indian branch

[Chandragupta]

If nationalists had any sense of unity, TOI would have been getting mass unsubscriptions by now. Let it hurt the business and we will see how strong is the asha.

I second that and strongly recommend people not to buy TOIlet and also stop reading their website.
Sad to see once respected newspaper going bonkers. This is the time every patriot indian should stop buying TOIlet and also recommend others to follow.

I swear I will not buy TOIlet. Who is with me?

I say don't just limit it to yourself, spread the light. Convince your family & friends to see through the facade. No matter how many people call you a yindoo extremist (which happened with me ), there would be a lot more who would understand the logic.

[shaardula]

archan,
it is known for a while now that ToI sells edit space. i have stopped visiting their site since then. in anycase, even from college days i find their style is too flashy for my taste. i used to wait and read the hindu even if it arrived a day late. a few years ago, when infrastructure was the big story, ToI did this thing called leader of india, or some such crap. a bangalorean won it. i follow developments in blore closely. let me assure you, that man has not been able to achieve diddly squat on ground in blr. for all the hype and hoopla that man cannot get a municipal tap fixed, if it were leaking on his head. although the man tries and is known to be bossy and contemptuous of all and sundry and offer solutions to all sorts of problems, whether he knows about the problem or not. ordinary citizens, bored-at-work IT walas, retired elders and intrepid youngsters, and university professors have done more than anything the ToI prodigy will ever do.

nobody who is serious about issues takes ToI seriously. and i am talking civic issues. i can only at somebody who takes ToI seriously on national issues. during mumbai some people started talking big about arnab and his guests. i mean come on.

i will also request forum members not to give traction to ToI. The problems are real. Superficial sweet nothings are not going to change anything on the ground. The problem is not public perception or even indian politicians. we all know what thereal problem and it is not going to dissapear just bcoz of candles and glossy english. lets move on, and keep focus. let us not derail a thread that sridhar struggles hard to maintain as a fact based compendium of pakiness of the pakis. thanks.

[jamwal]

This is getting more and more bizarre. I really doubt that a professional psy-ops operation would be so blatantly over the top. How does the ToI expect to have a impact when they print stories of "Aman ki Asha" and some new anti-Indian Paki terror plot being busted side by side?

What is this about then?

Do you really expect that the mango Indian is intelligent enough to know better? People are just like sheep. They will follow the person who manages to shot the loudest and at this time TOi-LeT has the largest reader base in India.

[JE Menon]

>>Aman (muslim boy)

Aman is not (or not exclusively) a Muslim name. My nephew (100% SDRE yindoo) is named Aman and so is an acquaintance son of an MI officer (also 100% SDRE yindoo).

[Bheem]

TOI is pre-Independence daily which Supported the British and opposed Indian Freedom

[a_kumar]

If nationalists had any sense of unity, TOI would have been getting mass unsubscriptions by now. Let it hurt the business and we will see how strong is the asha.

I am wondering if it will be anything more than symbolic. Where do the real Rs. come from? subscriptions? I have tough time believing that.

I am not sure if the transition is complete, but advertisers were going to be the biggest source of income on paper. Maybe its these guys that need some attention and ofcourse online traffic.

[Gagan]

Did everyone see this?

Hamid Gul and Pervez Hoodbhoy on Mere Mutabik

This is a 20 Sept 2009 issue discussing Blackwater, and Nuclear Assets.
Pervez hoodbhoy hands it to Hamid Gul and says to the effect that "We sent our soldiers and mujahedeen in Kargil and the people who went on a killing spree in mumbai were also pakistani. If Pakistan thinks that the nukes protects it from indian retribution because of this, then we are a sorry state"

Ultimately Hamid Gul starts bleating in the end.

And some understanding of perhaps why this bhai bhai is coming by now.

[Vivek_A]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31122.html

U.S. tightens international air security

All travelers flying into the U.S. from foreign countries will receive tightened random screening, and 100 percent of passengers from 14 terrorism-prone countries will be patted down and have their carry-ons searched, the Obama administration was notifying airlines on Sunday.

All passengers from countries on the State Department’s “State Sponsors of Terrorism” list – plus all passengers from other "countries of interest" such as Nigeria, Pakistan and Yemen — will receive “full body pat-down and physical inspection of property,” the official said.

The countries on the State Department list are Cuba, Iran, Sudan and Syria. Other countries covered by the TSA directive include Afghanistan, Libya and Somalia. A complete list was not released.

[munna]

Kolkata Car With Pak Number Plate

The Toyota Land Cruiser having number plate that read L 992 WYZ and a sticker of Islamabad attached to it, was parked illegally in front of the Bible Society of India in the New Market area on Saturday night.

A trail that followed led to identification of the owner as Alexander Henry Porcell of London, a student of Anthropology in Oxford University, who was traced by the police to a hotel on Sudder street in the vicinity.

[pgbhat]

Testing times for the army ---- Brig (r) A R Siddiqi

What lends a touch of the bizarre to the evolving civil-military matrix is that the president and the prime minister each seem looking at the situation from his own favourite end of the telescope, to make it appear either too big or too small but hardly ever in its true perspective. The prime minister argues that the PPP and army are “in sync.” The army is a “disciplined force” working within the “constitutional ambit” and “toeing” the official policies.

The chief of the army staff has been supportive of the democratic government. “We are together.” He said, and praised the army for its “pro-democracy” role. Must a professional army be either pro- or anti-democracy? Isn’t that tantamount to an indirect acceptance of the army’s role for or against what is essentially a political issue?

Gen Kayani keeps himself and his command at a safe distance from political involvement despite the displeasure of the president that he incurred for expressing his views on national sovereignty and honour in the debate on the Kerry-Lugar Bill.

The writer is a former director general of the ISPR

[Airavat]

Geo TV held a discussion with Pakistan's leading astrologers, who predicted more doom and gloom for the country this year. One of the astrologers lamented that Pakistan's stars were bad from the "time of its birth".

[svinayak]

Geo TV held a discussion with Pakistan's leading astrologers, who predicted more doom and gloom for the country this year. One of the astrologers lamented that Pakistan's stars were bad from the "time of its birth".

BV Raman magazine had an entire issue on Pakistan and its janam kundli

[Anujan]

Geo TV held a discussion with Pakistan's leading astrologers, who predicted more doom and gloom for the country this year. One of the astrologers lamented that Pakistan's stars were bad from the "time of its birth".

Isnt astrology haraam ? Something to do about the future known only to God.

Thinking about it, 1/3 of Pakistan's future is with Allah. The 2/3 is ofcourse, shared between Army and America

[pgbhat]

General Kapoor’s musings ---- Shahzad Chaudhry

Going by the response from Indian interlocutors at various forums, there certainly is some level of disconcert amongst the Indians as they exhibit a sense of bewildered amazement on hearing the general

General Deepak Kapoor, the Indian army chief, is an interesting fellow. Most Indian chiefs of the army are usually professional soldiers, undoubtedly of a very high quality amongst their peers and given to playing their professional role with equanimity, confidence and quiet as per tradition of the Indian military chiefs. General Deepak Kapoor is different. He is very much a Pakistani general — given the fact that Pakistan in its short history of 62 years has had to contend with at least 32 years of military rule — though this is a huge generalisation. Perhaps it is time to bring in such exact differentiation so that the blame for the lost times is correctly placed.

General Deepak Kapoor is certainly not media-shy; if that makes him media-savvy, I can’t say. Going by the response from Indian interlocutors at various forums, there certainly is some level of disconcert amongst the Indians as they exhibit a sense of bewildered amazement on hearing the general so frequently indulging in policy pronouncements. One thing is certain: his oft-appearing statements are unrealistic, professionally untenable and do not add to improving relations between the two countries, rather the opposite. General V P Malik, another former Indian army chief shares the fact in his book, titled Kargil, that he was required to explain before Mr Vajpayee, the then Indian premier, on more than one occasion why did the general make a couple of statements to the press without clearance by the government. Such is normally the control that Indian governments tend to retain over their services chiefs. How and why is General Kapoor escaping the dragnet leaves a few things unanswered.

So, what is new, general? It helps to relate to the basics, and those tell us that two nuclear powers have never gone to war. It greatly helps to avoid one. The second golden rule dictates: discretion is the better part of valour, even if one is under pressure to make amends for the original sin. The general was right in avoiding war post-Mumbai, and he will be always right in keeping away from another. Instincts hardly ever lie.

The writer is a retired air vice marshal and a former ambassador

First Kiyani, then Majid...... now this, looks like the good General has rattled the pakis.

[pgbhat]

War clouds over South Asia?

It needs a stretch of the imagination to be able to understand the recent statement of General Deepak Kapoor, the Indian army chief, if indeed it is his statement. The general states that the Indian military is planning to handle two major war fronts at the same time, because it considers Pakistan and China part of the same camp.

Is there any war in the offing? We thought that India’s relations with both China and Pakistan were on an even keel and projected to improve steadily. In fact, India and Pakistan are painstakingly engaged in clearing the debris left by the Mumbai tragedy and waiting for the right moment to resume the composite dialogue. On the other hand, China and India, realising the importance of a peaceful neighbourhood, have been steadily working to improve bilateral relations through enhanced diplomatic and economic ties. It would be reasonable to assert that despite turbulent past relations, the three neighbours appreciate the exigencies of the time that demand strategies other than military means to resolve conflicts.

And even if the relations between these countries were so bad as to warrant a military engagement, would not considerations of nuclear fallout restrain such flamboyant war talk? All three sides are armed with sophisticated nuclear weaponry to send a large section of population of earth to hell in a few seconds. In this scenario, either India’s army chief is attempting to placate his own ego, which was hurt badly during the post-Mumbai furore over lack of India’s preparedness to conduct surgical strikes against Pakistan, or he is exhibiting his overconfidence in India’s capabilities. India has moved away from its previous dependence on the Soviet Union for weaponry and has been on the road to self-reliance for some time now by obtaining technology and equipment from diverse sources. The attack on Mumbai in 2008 led to a further expansion of the defence budget. It may have given the Indian’s military a renewed self-assurance. But while talking about reworking India’s war doctrine, General Kapoor failed to realise that it will portray his country as having a hegemonic and jingoistic mindset, notwithstanding its state-of-the-art weaponry. That is how Pakistan’s foreign office responded to his statement.

ah love the takleef Gen Kapoor is causing to bakis.

[munna]

First Kiyani, then Majid...... now this, looks like the good General has rattled the pakis.

I have received a lot of angry vidyut patras from my RAPE friends, something beyond my limited comprehension has rattled the collective self of Bak land.

[Karan Dixit]

Paki discomfort over General Kapoor's statement is simply a case of much ado about nothing. It is the COAS who is qualified to make statements about preparedness of the armed forces he is commanding. Also, both Chinese and Pakistanese have proven record of attacking India, unprovoked. Therefore, any wise General will be better off preparing for such eventuality.

[Malayappan]

The action in Yemen seems to resonate in pakistan too. May need watching.
Another centre of terror by Huma Yusuf, Dawn Sunday, 03 Jan, 2010
Some excerpts -

Fata has long hosted foreign fighters — last year, reports circulated that there were up to 8,000 foreign fighters in Pakistan — many of them Arabs. During recent military operations, militants native to the tribal belt have been able to flee into Afghanistan or camouflaged as IDPs have merged with the population of the Frontier province, resulting in the ongoing surge in suicide attacks. Arabs and other foreigners who are more conspicuous have, however, been forced to leave this region. Many have travelled to Yemen and Somalia to join local militant operations there.

Moreover, analysts believe that the consolidation of the AQAP presence in Yemen could motivate Saudi Arabia to systematically address the issue of terror financing.

If the threat of a robust Al Qaeda presence in the Arabian peninsula moves Riyadh to better monitor Saudi charities, thereby curbing terror financing, Pakistan will certainly reap the benefits. After all, there can be no defeating Fata-based militants until their financing is permanently cut off. Ultimately, by dragging Saudi Arabia into the community of nations worried about militant attacks on its soil, AQAP’s resurgence in Yemen has indirectly affected the future course of Pakistan’s push against militancy in this region.

[Malayappan]

Nadeem Paracha writing in Nadeem Paracha style.

Smokers’ Corner: A short history of the BMM

[anupmisra]

One of the astrologers lamented that Pakistan's stars were bad from the "time of its birth".

Did he mean August 14, 1947 or Circa 712 when Muhammad bin Qasim the first porkistani arrived in Sindh?

[anupmisra]

The Chosen Nation: Great Company

Pak among U.S. screening for air travelers of 7 nations

WASHINGTON: All travelers from Nigeria, Yemen, Pakistan, Cuba, Iran, Sudan and Syria flying into the United States will be patted down and have carry-on luggage searched under new security procedures starting January 4, Politico reported on Sunday. All air passengers bound for the United States from foreign countries will face tightened random screening efforts under the new U.S. Transportation Security Administration rules, with special attention given to travelers from those seven countries, Politico reported. The seven countries include the four that the United States lists as "State Sponsors of Terrorism" as well as Nigeria, Pakistan and Yemen.

Patted down, eh? Some porkis may find that as paisa wasool.