India-Australia News and Discussion
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
This story is about Kiwis.
But look at the racist comments about all non whites.
Also the resentment aimed at the Indians.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/6 ... p-thomson/
But look at the racist comments about all non whites.
Also the resentment aimed at the Indians.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/6 ... p-thomson/
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1102
- Joined: 23 Mar 2007 02:43
- Location: Calcutta
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
SYDNEY (AFP) – China may have pressured Australia to refuse to take six Uighur men released from Guantanamo Bay and sent to the Pacific island nation of Palau, President Johnson Toribiong said.
Last week Beijing said it had executed nine people over ethnic unrest between Uighurs and members of China's dominant Han ethnic group in July in Xinjiang.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091115/wl ... 1115080447
Last week Beijing said it had executed nine people over ethnic unrest between Uighurs and members of China's dominant Han ethnic group in July in Xinjiang.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091115/wl ... 1115080447
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Can we encourage/facilitate Pakistani emigration to Australia? That would be a good check on Chinese ambitions in the long term.
I have said this before, India should not neglect immigration to Australia. It's a very big continent with lots of natural resources and a population of just 20m. If we think it's ok 30 years hence 30% of the population is paki/ Chinese we have no influence left whatsoever. People fail to see the demographic aspect which Chinese and Pakis see so well...
I have said this before, India should not neglect immigration to Australia. It's a very big continent with lots of natural resources and a population of just 20m. If we think it's ok 30 years hence 30% of the population is paki/ Chinese we have no influence left whatsoever. People fail to see the demographic aspect which Chinese and Pakis see so well...
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1102
- Joined: 23 Mar 2007 02:43
- Location: Calcutta
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
I have not given up on Australia. That is why I do my best to keep this thread alive.harbans wrote:Can we encourage/facilitate Pakistani emigration to Australia? That would be a good check on Chinese ambitions in the long term.
I have said this before, India should not neglect immigration to Australia. It's a very big continent with lots of natural resources and a population of just 20m. If we think it's ok 30 years hence 30% of the population is paki/ Chinese we have no influence left whatsoever. People fail to see the demographic aspect which Chinese and Pakis see so well...
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Australia_ ... 62009.html
Australia apologises to abused migrant children
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on Monday made an emotional apology to half-a-million "Forgotten Australians" who faced sexual abuse, violence and forced labour in childcare homes over a period of decades.......
Australia apologises to abused migrant children
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on Monday made an emotional apology to half-a-million "Forgotten Australians" who faced sexual abuse, violence and forced labour in childcare homes over a period of decades.......
-
- BRF Oldie
- Posts: 3522
- Joined: 21 Apr 2006 15:40
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125868803448157027.htmlA senior Australian government minister said Friday that Prime Minister Kevin Rudd could call an early election if Parliament fails to pass his carbon trading program. The government is negotiating possible changes to the program with opposition lawmakers who control the upper house Senate. It is hopeful a deal can be brokered over the weekend.
....
Australia is the biggest per capita polluter in the developed world, due mainly to the fact that it uses fossil fuels, chiefly coal, for around 90% of its electricity generation.
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
What about depopulating that country and repopulating it again?
It has worked once before..
It has worked once before..
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Attacks on Indians not racism: Senate report
didnt Rudd himself acknowledge it as racist when he was in India?An Australian Senate Committee formed to investigate a series of violent attacks on Indian students this year has ruled out racism as the prime motive -- but Indian student groups say the authorities are in denial.
"There was very little evidence that the assaults were based on racism or discrimination," committee chairman and Liberal Party senator Gary Humphries has told The Australian newspaper.
-----
"The committee acknowledges that with a lack of understanding regarding personal safety, the circumstances in which international students often find themselves may give rise to fears of racism and they may interpret a negative experience as motivated by racism even though no such motive exists," an extract from the report reads.
The committee has recommended that overseas students should be given more information on personal safety before they arrive in Australia. The universities and colleges should be responsible for imparting this information.
The much-awaited Senate Committee report has come under immediate criticism for not addressing the thorny issue of 'racism'.
"They are still in denial of the major issue," Federation of Indian Students of Australia president Amit Menghani was quoted as saying by The Australian newspaper Friday.
-----
The Senate report, chaired by Liberal Senator Gary Humphries, has made a number of recommendations to reform the beleaguered Australian overseas education sector.
Australia's education exports have rocketed in the past few years but the sector is reportedly marred by lack of regulation of the education institutes and recruitment agents.
-
- BRF Oldie
- Posts: 6110
- Joined: 16 Oct 2005 05:51
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Yes just as the aborigines got the understandable impression that they were hunted as animals by white, God-fearing Englishman.
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1102
- Joined: 23 Mar 2007 02:43
- Location: Calcutta
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
JEWISH groups have reported an ''unprecedented'' rise in racial violence and vilification in the past year.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nationa ... -jxwl.html
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nationa ... -jxwl.html
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
for keepers
China is snorting at our borders while our leaders are splitting our states.Asia's new strategic partners
By BRAHMA CHELLANEY
The recently concluded India-Australia security agreement has come at a time when tectonic power shifts are challenging Asian strategic stability. Asia has come a long way since the emergence of two Koreas, two Chinas, two Vietnams and a partitioned India. It has risen dramatically as the world's main creditor and economic locomotive. The ongoing global power shifts indeed are primarily linked to Asia's phenomenal economic rise.
Even so, Asia faces major challenges, as underscored by festering territorial and maritime disputes, sharpening resource competition, fast-rising military expenditures, increasingly fervent nationalism and the spread of transnational terrorism and other negative cross-border trends.
In that light, an expanding constellation of Asian countries linked by strategic cooperation and sharing common interests can help foster power stability and build institutionalized cooperation. A close India-Australia strategic relationship indeed is a critical link in this picture, given the common security interests in several spheres that bind the two democracies.
Unfortunately, the Indo-Australian relationship hasn't gone too well ever since Kevin Rudd two years ago became the free world's first Mandarin-speaking head of government. Among his first actions, he pulled the plug on the nascent India-Japan-Australia-U.S. "Quadrilateral Initiative" and reversed his predecessor's decision to export uranium ore to India. For reasons unrelated, the growth in Indo-Australian educational and defense ties also came under pressure, even as India remained Australia's fastest-growing merchandise export market.
Rudd's India visit last month has helped to put the bilateral relationship on an even keel and, more importantly, to elevate it to a strategic partnership. The new security agreement will help add concrete strategic content to the relationship.
Underlining the significance of their new accord, India and Australia have agreed to "policy coordination" on Asian affairs and long-term international issues, and to work together in Asian initiatives like the East Asia Summit and ASEAN Regional Forum. Toward that end, they will institute regular defense-policy talks, including consultations between their national security advisers, and set up a joint working group on counterterrorism. They also have agreed to cooperate on maritime and aviation security and participate in military exercises and other service-to-service exchanges.
Like the October 2008 Indo-Japanese security accord and the June 2005 Indo-U.S. defense agreement, the India-Australia declaration is a "framework" understanding that is to be followed by an action plan with specific steps. In fact, all these three bilateral accords call for advancing security cooperation in wide areas that extend from sea-lane security and defense collaboration to disaster management and counterterrorism.
The Indo-Japanese security agreement, signed when Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh visited Tokyo last, was modeled on the March 2007 Australia-Japan defense accord. Now, the India-Australia accord follows that lead. Its structure and even a large part of its content mirror that of the Japan-Australia and Japan-India declarations.
Actually, all three — the Japan-Australia, Japan-India and Australia-India agreements — are in the form of a joint declaration on security cooperation. And all three, while recognizing a common commitment to democracy, freedom, human rights and the rule of law, obligate their signatories to work together to build not just bilateral defense cooperation, but also security in Asia. They are designed as agreements to enhance mutual security between equals. By contrast, the U.S.-India defense agreement, with its emphasis on arms sales, force interoperability and intelligence sharing — elements not found in Australia-Japan, India-Japan and India-Australia accords — is aimed more at undergirding U.S. interests.
Paradoxically, Rudd, having nixed the Quadrilateral Initiative, has come full circle implicitly by plugging the only missing link in that quad — an Australia-India security agreement. With the Indo-Australian accord, quadrilateral strategic cooperation among the four major democracies in the Asia-Pacific region — Australia, India, Japan and the U.S. — is set to take off without the aid of an institutional mechanism like the Quadrilateral Initiative.
Such cooperation, of course, is intended to be in a bilateral framework. But the bilateral cooperation inexorably will help lay the foundation for greater cooperation and coordination at trilateral and quadrilateral levels among these four powers.
Australia, Japan and the United States already are engaged in institutionalized trilateral strategic dialogue, while India, Japan and the U.S. have held naval maneuvers since 2007, the last time being in April-May this year off the Okinawa coast. In addition, the quad members jointly staged major naval-war games in the Bay of Bengal in September 2007, roping in Singapore, too. Indeed, the coordination established among the Indian, Japanese, Australian and U.S. militaries in rescue operations following the December 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami has helped promote closer cooperation among them on disaster relief.
Make no mistake: The U.S. has actively encouraged Indian defense cooperation with Australia and Japan, which are tied to the U.S. by security treaty — the ANZUS treaty in the case of Australia and a 1951 treaty with Japan that was revised in 1960.
Closer Indian defense ties with key Asia-Pacific members of America's hub-and-spoke global alliance system, in fact, are a natural corollary to the U.S.-India strategic tieup, which seeks to institute a "soft" alliance without treaty obligations, but with complex arrangements extending from the defense-framework accord and nuclear deal in mid-2005 to the recent End-Use Monitoring Agreement. As part of this tieup, India placed arms-purchase orders with the U.S. worth $3.5 billion just last year.
But while the U.S. has treaty commitments to defend Australia and Japan, its reciprocal security obligations to an emerging de facto ally like India are unclear. It also is doubtful whether security accords of the Japan-Australia, Australia-India and Japan-India type translate into tangible gains for the parties' national defense against visible threats, even though they do aid their diplomacy and are likely to contribute to Asian power stability.
Australia's own recent defense white paper, by unveiling the country's biggest military buildup since World War II, serves as a reminder that there is no substitute to building adequate national deterrent capabilities, even for a country under the U.S. security umbrella. Japan, for its part, is likely to move to a more independent security posture in the years ahead, even though a muscular Chinese approach has prompted Tokyo in this decade to strengthen its military alliance with the U.S.
More broadly, Rudd's government — through its record of being hyper-responsive to Chinese concerns, including on the Quadrilateral Initiative — has taken the lead for the U.S. in certain spheres. Just as Canberra has sought to balance its ties with Tokyo and Beijing, as well as with New Delhi and Beijing, the Obama administration now is following in those footsteps. Indeed, the new catchphrase coined by the Obama administration on China, "strategic reassurance," signals an American intent to be more accommodative of Chinese ambitions.
Or take another example: China's resurrection of its long-dormant claim to India's northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh. Just as Australia has publicly chartered a course of neutrality on the Arunachal issue — to the delight of Beijing, which aims to leave an international question mark hanging over the legitimacy of India's control over that large Himalayan territory — U.S. policy is doing likewise, albeit quietly. Indeed, the Obama administration has signaled its intent to abandon elements in its ties with New Delhi that could rile China, including a joint military drill in Arunachal and any further Indo-U.S. naval maneuvers involving Japan or more parties like Australia.
In New Delhi, Rudd underscored both the promise and limitations of the new Australia-India strategic partnership. While lauding the new security agreement, he contended disingenuously that his continued refusal to sell India uranium was "not targeted at any individual country," although India is the only country affected by his policy. Worse still, he proffered a specious justification — India's nonmembership in the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). That treaty has no explicit or implicit injunction against civil nuclear cooperation with a nonsignatory. Rather, it enjoins its parties to positively facilitate "the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy," so long as safeguards are in place.
Any restriction is not in the NPT but in the revised 1992 rules of the 45-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group that, paradoxically, were changed with Australian support last year to exempt India.
Eventually, Canberra will come round to selling India uranium. After all, how can Canberra continue to justify selling uranium to authoritarian China but banning such exports to democratic India, even though the latter has accepted what the former will not brook — stringent, internationally verifiable safeguards against diversion of imported uranium to weapons use? Canberra will not be able to plow a lonely furrow on India indefinitely.
Brahma Chellaney is professor of strategic studies at the Center for Policy Research in New Delhi and the author of "Asian Juggernaut: The Rise of China, India and Japan."
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Meanwhile hope everyone reads about the woman that represents India in Australia i.e Indian consul general in Melbourne Miss Anita Nayyar, she is single, chain smoker,dislikes kids,"too selfish" and way she talks about Indian students here looks like she is a paki agent . I hope Indian Govt puts someone from Punjab or atleast north india in charge to deal with the problems faced by Indian students mostly from north indian states. For that matter anyone will be better than this bimbo who believes that shouting "F@@$ off Home" to Indians is not racism and Indian students in Australia are rejected material who should be denied permanent residency.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/the-j ... -kon8.html
http://www.theage.com.au/national/the-j ... -kon8.html
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
what does her not being from north India have to do with anything ?
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1392
- Joined: 18 Nov 2007 05:03
- Location: Pee Arr Eff's resident Constitution Compliance Strategist (Phd, with upper hand)
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Ho Ho Ho! RahulMji tell the honourable gent in concern that "Nayyar" is a true blue blood Punjabi surname and the lady in question is indeed Punjabi and not to be confused with "Nair" from Southern India.Rahul M wrote:what does her not being from north India have to do with anything ?
-
- BRF Oldie
- Posts: 13112
- Joined: 27 Jul 2006 17:51
- Location: Ban se dar nahin lagta , chootiyon se lagta hai .
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Yeah for e.g. Kuldeep Nayyar.
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
nope nope ! read the article !munna wrote:Ho Ho Ho! RahulMji tell the honourable gent in concern that "Nayyar" is a true blue blood Punjabi surname and the lady in question is indeed Punjabi and not to be confused with "Nair" from Southern India.Rahul M wrote:what does her not being from north India have to do with anything ?
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1392
- Joined: 18 Nov 2007 05:03
- Location: Pee Arr Eff's resident Constitution Compliance Strategist (Phd, with upper hand)
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Oops my bad I got confused by the extra "y" in the simple "Nayar" in the post of happy face (hansmukhji) sir. Nayar == Nair I agree but add an extra "y" and then you end up in Punjab. Anyways it does'nt matter where the lady is from in India cause she is OUR diplomat!Rahul M wrote: nope nope ! read the article !
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1102
- Joined: 23 Mar 2007 02:43
- Location: Calcutta
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
https://grants.innovation.gov.au/AISRF/Pages/Home.aspx
How about Uranium, the most important bilateral issue?Science and technology are particularly promising areas for collaboration between Australia and India. Our scientific communities have complementary strengths and shared interests in a range of areas, including agriculture, biotechnology, renewable energy and information and communications technology.
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1102
- Joined: 23 Mar 2007 02:43
- Location: Calcutta
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Not much is happening on the India - Australia front. So, I thought posting this little news won't hurt.
---
MUMBAI (Dow Jones)--India's Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. (500520.BY) said Tuesday it has acquired a 75.1% stake each in two Australian aerospace companies for INR1.75 billion (US$37.4 million) to expand its aircraft and aerospace-component manufacturing business.
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-200 ... 05555.html
---
MUMBAI (Dow Jones)--India's Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. (500520.BY) said Tuesday it has acquired a 75.1% stake each in two Australian aerospace companies for INR1.75 billion (US$37.4 million) to expand its aircraft and aerospace-component manufacturing business.
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-200 ... 05555.html
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
http://business.rediff.com/report/2009/ ... differ.htmSerious differences have emerged between India and Australia over the direction of talks at the climate summit in Copenhagen with Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh [ Images ] lashing out at Canberra, dubbing it as an "ayatollah" for its one-track approach.
"Australia is sort of the ayatollah of the single track," Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh was quoted as saying by the 'Sydney Morning Herald'.
Developing countries are arguing that Australia and its allies are trying to push the outcome of talks away from the Kyoto Protocol, and Ramesh called it "a recipe for disaster".
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Rio Tinto to sell iron ore to India
RIO Tinto has agreed to sell its first iron ore to India, marking a strategic sales breakthrough in the Asian country.
"There will be a shipment arriving there (India) in December, so one is due to leave shortly," Rio Tinto Iron Ore chief executive Sam Walsh said.
The cargo, from Rio's Pilbara operations in Western Australia, is destined for Essar Steel, a large Indian steel maker, Mr Walsh said.
India, which boasts a growing domestic steel market, is normally an iron ore exporter, mainly to the Chinese spot market.
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1102
- Joined: 23 Mar 2007 02:43
- Location: Calcutta
-
- BRF Oldie
- Posts: 2585
- Joined: 05 Oct 2008 16:01
- Location: Mansarovar
- Contact:
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1858
- Joined: 02 Mar 2009 11:38
- Location: Committee for the Promotion of Vice and the Prevention of Virtue
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Online fury over stabbing death of Indian man
http://www.smh.com.au/national/online-f ... 4#comments
Go through the comments..
http://www.smh.com.au/national/online-f ... 4#comments
Go through the comments..
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1102
- Joined: 23 Mar 2007 02:43
- Location: Calcutta
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
'The stabbing of the Indian student is brutal and I hope the Australian government will take necessary action and not force India to look to other ways,' Krishna told reporters in Bangalore.
'If attacks of this nature continue, we will have to seriously think what course of action lies with government of India. I am hoping that the government of India will not be pushed to take such positions,' Krishna said.
http://www.calcuttanews.net/story/584676
'If attacks of this nature continue, we will have to seriously think what course of action lies with government of India. I am hoping that the government of India will not be pushed to take such positions,' Krishna said.
http://www.calcuttanews.net/story/584676
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Another innocent life lost to the racist thugs.
Cant Indian authorities hint Aussies that if this continues then there is greater probability that Aussies tourist in India can face backlash?
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
^
They won't care. They have unkil and chipanda, not to mention europe and south east asia interested.
They won't care. They have unkil and chipanda, not to mention europe and south east asia interested.
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Reading the reaction to this murder on STORMFRONT website is very illuminating. I suggest people spend time on these fora to get a look and feel on the thought cycle on the far right in the west is like.
This camp can only grow and will attract more mainstream followers as the clout of the western world declines.
This camp can only grow and will attract more mainstream followers as the clout of the western world declines.
-
- BRFite
- Posts: 1516
- Joined: 09 Nov 2006 03:27
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Partially burnt body of Indian migrant found in Australia
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 412248.cms
My comments: Indians should respond in a Gandhian way by identifying and rejecting Australian goods and companies in India.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 412248.cms
My comments: Indians should respond in a Gandhian way by identifying and rejecting Australian goods and companies in India.
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
^^ And that would really hurt the Aussies?
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
There was a lot of breast beating and wailing and 'ashamed to be indian' remarks by Stalinist rapist goons and their yellow media puppets posing as fake liberals when Staines was killed. Today it is becoming a regular feature of OZ life, killing foreigners, and yet the same liberal crowd is singing another tune...
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Sriman ji went through the article in the Aussie paper. It's a bit ironical of an Indian calling Aussies..'white dogs' while at the same time accusing them of racism.
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
harbans wrote:Sriman ji went through the article in the Aussie paper. It's a bit ironical of an Indian calling Aussies..'white dogs' while at the same time accusing them of racism.
Well there are a bunch of loonies everywhere and they find their voice in online posts. That Aussie newspaper visited a news site where there were 100s of comments and cherry-picked a few crazy ones ignoring the majority of rational ones, just to inflame opinion.
The Aussies are like Pakis...their 'moderates' are way more extreme than our 'extremists'. Same applies to racism and their media.
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
That Aussie newspaper visited a news site where there were 100s of comments and cherry-picked a few crazy ones ignoring the majority of rational ones, just to inflame opinion.
Absolutely right. Imagine if an Indian newspaper did that after digging in from deff n dumb or stormfront. However i wanted to point out the irony in that, so it does'nt repeat itself here..
Def n dumb special: 'These war mongering racist, casteist, bhangees need to be nuked.."
All you need to do is sense the irony.
Absolutely right. Imagine if an Indian newspaper did that after digging in from deff n dumb or stormfront. However i wanted to point out the irony in that, so it does'nt repeat itself here..
Def n dumb special: 'These war mongering racist, casteist, bhangees need to be nuked.."
All you need to do is sense the irony.
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
I think a trade boycott would certainly hurt Australia - see http://www.dfat.gov.au/GEO/fs/inia.pdf.Akshut wrote:^^ And that would really hurt the Aussies?
I'm given to understand that Indian students contribute $4 billion to the Australian education sector. I'm also told that there is much panic in the Australian university system surrounding dwindling Indian student numbers.
Racism exists in Australia (I've experienced quite a bit in the time I have spent there). It permeates all the way to the level of primary school children.
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Australian like to hate. It's in their criminal genetics make up.
We must remember , Australia started as a colony for all the criminals and rubbish of England to be dumped on Asia. So they also have this inferiority complex to prove that they are physically, intellectually and whatever they may like to think, superior to the Asian. This attitude can be seen during the British Raj in India.
I must also point out, their hatred for the English is also well known. There have been few nasty murders in the past of English students, based on hatred. But not anything like attacked on Indian.
The fault is with the Indian and it's spineless government.
Here is nugget from history:
Deputy Prime Minister Julia Gillard insisted that her country is safe for all international students and said "acts of violence" occur in big cities around the world.
What City did the Aboriginal belonged to?
AUSTRALIA'S STOLEN GENERATION
Canada's treatment of its Indians finds a parallel in Australia Tralia's of its Aborigines. White settlers from Britain, first arrived in 1788, forcibly occupied this vast territory; its Natives did not count and were seen as no more than a nuisance. The Aboriginal population of about 750,000 at
the time declined to 31,000 by 1911: in other words, over 95% of the indigenous population was wiped out in a little over a century, largely as a result of diseases brought by the settlers, but also with at least 20,000 victims of a long series of cold-blooded massacres. Their exact number will never be known, as courts rejected Aboriginal evidence : "Non-Christians could not swear oaths, and white killers used the defence that Aboriginal morality did not exist," writes Prof. Ben Kiernan. "No European was ever charged for assaulting or killing an Aboriginal."* As else where, the logical outcome of the missionary-colonial phenomenon was simple genocide.
In 1836, the Governor of South Australia issued a proclamation promising to "protect" Aborigines, but at the same time to promote "their conversion to the Christian faith." The 1869 Aboriginal Protection Act (a rather cynical designation) gave authorities the power to decide "where
[any Aboriginal or any tribe of Aborigines shall reside." To eradicate the Native identity more efficiently, the Australian government moved from "protection" to "welfare" : it arrogated to itself the right to forcibly remove Aboriginal children from their parents so as to rescue them from their "aimless and immoral" life and speed up their "assimilation." At first, the concentration was on "half-castes," that is, children with some "Caucasian" blood (most often as result of rape). Between 1880 and 1969
*Prof. Ben Kiernan, "Will Australia Atone?" Bangkok Post 10 Sept. 2000.
We must remember , Australia started as a colony for all the criminals and rubbish of England to be dumped on Asia. So they also have this inferiority complex to prove that they are physically, intellectually and whatever they may like to think, superior to the Asian. This attitude can be seen during the British Raj in India.
I must also point out, their hatred for the English is also well known. There have been few nasty murders in the past of English students, based on hatred. But not anything like attacked on Indian.
The fault is with the Indian and it's spineless government.
Here is nugget from history:
Deputy Prime Minister Julia Gillard insisted that her country is safe for all international students and said "acts of violence" occur in big cities around the world.
What City did the Aboriginal belonged to?
AUSTRALIA'S STOLEN GENERATION
Canada's treatment of its Indians finds a parallel in Australia Tralia's of its Aborigines. White settlers from Britain, first arrived in 1788, forcibly occupied this vast territory; its Natives did not count and were seen as no more than a nuisance. The Aboriginal population of about 750,000 at
the time declined to 31,000 by 1911: in other words, over 95% of the indigenous population was wiped out in a little over a century, largely as a result of diseases brought by the settlers, but also with at least 20,000 victims of a long series of cold-blooded massacres. Their exact number will never be known, as courts rejected Aboriginal evidence : "Non-Christians could not swear oaths, and white killers used the defence that Aboriginal morality did not exist," writes Prof. Ben Kiernan. "No European was ever charged for assaulting or killing an Aboriginal."* As else where, the logical outcome of the missionary-colonial phenomenon was simple genocide.
In 1836, the Governor of South Australia issued a proclamation promising to "protect" Aborigines, but at the same time to promote "their conversion to the Christian faith." The 1869 Aboriginal Protection Act (a rather cynical designation) gave authorities the power to decide "where
[any Aboriginal or any tribe of Aborigines shall reside." To eradicate the Native identity more efficiently, the Australian government moved from "protection" to "welfare" : it arrogated to itself the right to forcibly remove Aboriginal children from their parents so as to rescue them from their "aimless and immoral" life and speed up their "assimilation." At first, the concentration was on "half-castes," that is, children with some "Caucasian" blood (most often as result of rape). Between 1880 and 1969
*Prof. Ben Kiernan, "Will Australia Atone?" Bangkok Post 10 Sept. 2000.
-
- BRF Oldie
- Posts: 3522
- Joined: 21 Apr 2006 15:40
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Australia Rejects One-Third of Indian Students Over Fake Documents
http://chronicle.com/blogPost/Australia ... _medium=en
http://chronicle.com/blogPost/Australia ... _medium=en
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
The national bird of Oz should be the Oz-trich,not the 'roo! The gov. of Oz under Rudd is so warped in its perverse thinking over the racist attacks against Indians,blind to the reality of the outrage even when fatlities have occured ,that Indo-Oz relations will officially hit the sh*t very soon.That the first fatality was on its way was very evident from the Oztrich like attitude of Rudd & co.More deaths will follow and if the GOI has any self-respect,then it should kick out the Oz ambassador and snap all sporting links with Oz,a nation whose govt. is anything but "sporting",plus ban students and tourists from travelling to Oz.We as concerned citizens should inundate the Oz mission with protest letters and launch campaigns to boycott all Oz products.
India issues travel warning for Australia after student murders
India has issued a travel warning for its citizens in Australia after two students were murdered in attacks believed to have been racially motivated.
By Bonnie Malkin in Sydney
Published: 1:06PM GMT 06 Jan 2010
Nitin Garg Photo: EPA
Indian nationals protest near the Australian high commission in New Delhi, Indi Photo: EPA
Flowers and candles from a vigil are seen at the park where Nitin Garg was stabbed Photo: REUTERS
State Emergency Services personnel and police conduct a search where Garg was stabbed Photo: REUTERS
Students in the country were advised to take "basic" precautions against possible attacks after Nitin Garg, 21, an accountancy graduate from Punjab, was stabbed to death in Melbourne at the weekend.
Police in the Victorian state capital said another Indian man was attacked in the same suburb on the same night, while police in New South Wales Police confirmed that a partially burned body found last week was that of another Indian national.
Related Articles
India condemns student's stabbing in Australia
Bollywood star turns down honorary degree after attacks
Australia must protect foreign students from attacks, say China and India
Arab student 'kicked to death in racists' attack'
The government advises Indian students studying in Australia as well as those planning to study there, that they should take certain basic precautions in being alert to their own security while moving around," the Indian advisory said.
"The number of such incidents of assault as well as of robbery has been on the rise in recent months, which has affected not only Indian students but also members of the larger Indian community in Australia," it said.
Australian police have maintained there was no evidence that Mr Garg's murder was racially motivated, despite their own figures showing that 1,447 people of Indian descent were victims of a crime in Victoria in the 12 months to July 2008.
But the police investigation has done little to placate the Indian government, which described the attack on Mr Garg as a "heinous act against humanity."
Denouncing the murder as "an uncivilised brutal attack on innocent Indians," SM Krishna, the external affairs minister, said it would threaten bilateral ties between the two countries.
India's unbridled anger has forced Australian ministers into the embarrassing position of having to insist that Indians were not being targeted simply because of the colour of their skin.
Julia Gillard, the deputy prime minister, insisted Australia was a safe country for all international students.
"In big cities around the world we do see acts of violence from time to time. That happens in Melbourne, it happens in Mumbai, it happens in New York, it happens in London," she said.
"Any individual act of violence is obviously to be deeply regretted and our sympathies go to anyone who is harmed by an act of violence."
Simon Crean, the trade minister, urged India's leaders to avoid fuelling hysteria. But it may be too late.
The murder already threatens to unravel Canberra's efforts to protect India's £1.5 billion contribution to the country's international education industry.
Australia's Tourism Forecasting Committee has forecast the number of Indians studying in Australia will fall by about 20 per cent in 2010 as a result of the violence.
The spate of attacks against Indian students in Australia began in the middle of last year with attacks in Sydney and Melbourne. In one incident, a student was critically injured by a screwdriver.
In response, thousands of Indians took to the streets of the cities in protest, prompting Kevin Rudd, the prime minister, Miss Gillard and John Brumby, the Victorian premier, to visit India in an attempt to mend ties and improve Australia's image abroad.
The attacks are believed to have become more frequent as the boom in students from the sub-continent forced them into less affluent suburbs where they compete for part-time jobs and housing with low-skilled youths from other migrant backgrounds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rders.html
India issues travel warning for Australia after student murders
India has issued a travel warning for its citizens in Australia after two students were murdered in attacks believed to have been racially motivated.
By Bonnie Malkin in Sydney
Published: 1:06PM GMT 06 Jan 2010
Nitin Garg Photo: EPA
Indian nationals protest near the Australian high commission in New Delhi, Indi Photo: EPA
Flowers and candles from a vigil are seen at the park where Nitin Garg was stabbed Photo: REUTERS
State Emergency Services personnel and police conduct a search where Garg was stabbed Photo: REUTERS
Students in the country were advised to take "basic" precautions against possible attacks after Nitin Garg, 21, an accountancy graduate from Punjab, was stabbed to death in Melbourne at the weekend.
Police in the Victorian state capital said another Indian man was attacked in the same suburb on the same night, while police in New South Wales Police confirmed that a partially burned body found last week was that of another Indian national.
Related Articles
India condemns student's stabbing in Australia
Bollywood star turns down honorary degree after attacks
Australia must protect foreign students from attacks, say China and India
Arab student 'kicked to death in racists' attack'
The government advises Indian students studying in Australia as well as those planning to study there, that they should take certain basic precautions in being alert to their own security while moving around," the Indian advisory said.
"The number of such incidents of assault as well as of robbery has been on the rise in recent months, which has affected not only Indian students but also members of the larger Indian community in Australia," it said.
Australian police have maintained there was no evidence that Mr Garg's murder was racially motivated, despite their own figures showing that 1,447 people of Indian descent were victims of a crime in Victoria in the 12 months to July 2008.
But the police investigation has done little to placate the Indian government, which described the attack on Mr Garg as a "heinous act against humanity."
Denouncing the murder as "an uncivilised brutal attack on innocent Indians," SM Krishna, the external affairs minister, said it would threaten bilateral ties between the two countries.
India's unbridled anger has forced Australian ministers into the embarrassing position of having to insist that Indians were not being targeted simply because of the colour of their skin.
Julia Gillard, the deputy prime minister, insisted Australia was a safe country for all international students.
"In big cities around the world we do see acts of violence from time to time. That happens in Melbourne, it happens in Mumbai, it happens in New York, it happens in London," she said.
"Any individual act of violence is obviously to be deeply regretted and our sympathies go to anyone who is harmed by an act of violence."
Simon Crean, the trade minister, urged India's leaders to avoid fuelling hysteria. But it may be too late.
The murder already threatens to unravel Canberra's efforts to protect India's £1.5 billion contribution to the country's international education industry.
Australia's Tourism Forecasting Committee has forecast the number of Indians studying in Australia will fall by about 20 per cent in 2010 as a result of the violence.
The spate of attacks against Indian students in Australia began in the middle of last year with attacks in Sydney and Melbourne. In one incident, a student was critically injured by a screwdriver.
In response, thousands of Indians took to the streets of the cities in protest, prompting Kevin Rudd, the prime minister, Miss Gillard and John Brumby, the Victorian premier, to visit India in an attempt to mend ties and improve Australia's image abroad.
The attacks are believed to have become more frequent as the boom in students from the sub-continent forced them into less affluent suburbs where they compete for part-time jobs and housing with low-skilled youths from other migrant backgrounds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rders.html
Re: India-Australia News and Discussion
Warning : *CYNIC HAT ON*
Now looking at only the difference between last year and current year, (33-6.5) it is 26.5%. So, for the year 2010, 26.5% more people won't make it, even though they desperately tried.
So, ground is prepared to account for the predicted 20% drop (due to the attacks) and with an additional margin of 6.5%...
In the meantime : Indian student flow to Australia may drop 50%, Jan 6th, 2010
Stan_Savljevic wrote:Australia Rejects One-Third of Indian Students Over Fake Documents - Jan 05, 2010
http://chronicle.com/blogPost/Australia ... _medium=en
So there would be 33% fewer students coming to Australia because Australia rejected the applications.Australia refused to grant visas to one-third of the Indian students who applied to its universities from July to October 2009
See, inspite of the attacks, substantially higher number of people are desperate to go to Australia.because they submitted fake documents, The Economic Times reported. The proportion is a substantial increase from the 6.5 percent of such rejections in the corresponding months of 2008, the newpaper said.
Now looking at only the difference between last year and current year, (33-6.5) it is 26.5%. So, for the year 2010, 26.5% more people won't make it, even though they desperately tried.
So, ground is prepared to account for the predicted 20% drop (due to the attacks) and with an additional margin of 6.5%...
In the meantime : Indian student flow to Australia may drop 50%, Jan 6th, 2010
Oops!! Now the new target is 50%. Its so difficult to chase totals when required run rate is climbing too quickly!!“We had projected a fall of nearly 20 per cent in the number of Indian students studying in Australia in 2010. With the latest incident, it could even go up to 50 per cent,” says Gautam Gupta, president of the Federation of Indian Students of Australia (Fisa).
...........
Judging from visa applications, there would be 4,000 fewer Indian arrivals in 2010 — a drop of 21 per cent despite a projected growth of 4.3 per cent in international tourism numbers, according to recent estimates from Australia’s Tourism Forecasting Committee (TFC). More than 70,000 Indians studied in Australia in 2009.
Last edited by a_kumar on 07 Jan 2010 03:24, edited 1 time in total.