People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

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The state-run Xinhua news agency cited the defence ministry as saying the suspension was due to the "severe harm" of the arms sales on relations between the US and China.
Why Chinese warn "xyz" country that "this action could harm relation between two countries. They have to think this when they do everything possible to harm relations. :roll:
INDIA
It will do no harm to the interests of India, but promote China-India ... for Peace and Prosperity, which marks a new era of bilateral relationship. ...
JAPAN
Vice Premier Urges Japan Not to Harm Bilateral Relations. Vice Premier Wu Yi and Japanese House of Representatives Speaker Yohei Kono met in Tokyo Monday to ..
INDIA
14 Oct 2009 ... Indian hegemony continues to harm relations with neighbors ... China to strengthen bilateral ties with Mongolia. Editor's Pick. Most Popular ...
US
Beijing against Google and US, Clinton's words could harm relations. China's Foreign Ministry strongly criticises the US secretary of state, ...
ARGINTINA
Beijing Says Falun Gong Out to Harm Relations with Argentina ... spiritual movement's attempt to damage bilateral relations, Beijing said Thursday. ... on bilateral relations and President Cristina Fernandez's planned visit to China
PHILIPINES
news China: Philippines sovereign claims may harm bilateral ties ... 2007 2009 relationship of china and philippines • relationship of china and philippines
BAKISTAN
al qaeda; - bilateral relations; - china; - chinese ambassador ... China asks Pak to be wary of separatist Turkestans designs to harm ties .
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TURKY
Turkestan miscreants trying to harm ties, says China ... “No one can damage our bilateral relations, cooperation and traditional friendship.
SOUTH AFRICA
23 Mar 2009 ... South Africa is China's largest trading partner in Africa, ... that allowing the Dalai Lama into the country would harm bilateral relations. ...
RUSSIA
17 Dec 2005 ... The China Daily quoted Putin as saying the incident "should not harm bilateral relations". However, the slick is a reminder that water
FRANCE
22 Apr 2008 ... China has discouraged the actions of the "radical" protesters, ... She added that China should continue to harbor friendly bilateral relations with ... Over-the-top nationalism is not constructive, but can do harm to the ...
EVEN LAOS
Somsavat spoke highly of Laos-China relations and expressed thanks for the .... and stop doing things that harm the bilateral ties and hurt the feelings of ..
UK
29 Dec 2009 ... China executes Briton convicted of drug smuggling, despite UK pleas ... but said it hoped the case would not harm bilateral relations.
UK AGAIN
29 Dec 2009 ... We urge the UK to respect China's judicial sovereignty and correct its mistakes immediately to avoid doing harm to the bilateral relations. ...
CANADA
But many argue that the bilateral relationship is unlikely to teeter on this one event, ... referring to recent actions related to Burma and Sudan as examples. ... have anything to do with the Canada-China bilateral relationship as such." ... To mitigate any harm, Mr. Chin said, the government has made a serious ...
EVEN BURKINA FASO :rotfl:
18 Jan 2010 ... side would harm bilateral relations between the two countries.24 Jan 2010 ..... Burkina Faso Benin security hooligans bullets injured. ... Foreign Office appeals to China over death row Briton hit by Car driver Homes ...
In all there are 271.000 refrences on " harm bilateral relation china" on google. no country was spared. It seems they have an readymade farm at the foreign ministry ........................any thing happens........just fill in country name and fax to xinhua.
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^ Nice pick. Reflects totalitarian insecurity to the core. :mrgreen:
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Brilliant :D
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too much rsingh-ji. :rotfl:
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rsingh wrote:................. In all there are 271.000 refrences on " harm bilateral relation china" on google. no country was spared. It seems they have an readymade farm at the foreign ministry ........................any thing happens........just fill in country name and fax to xinhua.
Lol.... Missed Myanmar and australia.
Myanmar for border clashes and Aus for riotinto :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
China will spare no one in swearing until the whole world stops importing chinese junk to throw chinese economy into a 100 year recession period :P :P
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Apologies if it was posted earlier! Quite old but gives an insight into official PRC media and its worldview based on 'hurt feelings' and following it up with 'teaching lessons'.

Mapping the hurt feelings of the Chinese people
How many times have the Chinese people's feelings been hurt, anyway? Blogger FangKC searched through the electronic archives of the People's Daily between 1946 and 2006 and discovered that 19 countries and organizations have been accused of hurting the feelings of the Chinese people:

1. Japan: 47 times, starting in 1985
2. USA: 23 times, starting in 1980, when Los Angeles flew the ROC flag
3. NATO: 10 times, mostly relating to the 1999 Belgrade embassy bombing
4. India: 7 times, starting in 1986 and mostly relating to border issues
5. France: 5 times, starting in 1989
Congratulations India for featuring in the top 5. Why are Russia and South Korea missing and why is Vietnam at lowly 13th position?

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We can use this program to translate from Mandarin to english

http://translate.google.com/#hi|en|%0D%0A%0D%0A
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oh No, China is holding US Treasury notes in billions of dollars, if it dumps them US economy would go for a toss.But so would Chinsese economy as US is major partner in exim trade with China (BOP favours china). Millions of Chinese depend on the export of cheap,substandard Chinese goods to US.
So any reaction other than loud noise would not be coming from China. :

I am well aware of the obvious. You have pointed out the consequences if China dumps the dollars.
The fact remains China cannot dump the dollar in the real world. China is very insecure internally, no export, no jobs and hence internal problems.
Apart talking tough there nothing the Chinese can do. Let me know when they take on the USA and NATO.
Anyway it’s good for India if they both fall out.
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>>Anyway it’s good for India if they both fall out.

We need them to continue as they are for a while longer. "Friendly", in "G2" mode, telling us how South Asia needs to be run while they figure out how the world should be run... :rotfl: :twisted:
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Naivety of US (under Obama) and European leaders in full display here. Obama and his advisers thought that by giving some more bhaav to China and forming a G2, China will be happy and become more cooperative. Results are here for all to see.

India should not get drawn into this west vs China thing and use this opportunity to improve ties with China.
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csharma wrote:Naivety of US (under Obama) and European leaders in full display here. Obama and his advisers thought that by giving some more bhaav to China and forming a G2, China will be happy and become more cooperative. Results are here for all to see.

India should not get drawn into this west vs China thing and use this opportunity to improve ties with China.
What will PRC do if it is put in a corner on trade and commerce.
Will it go after its neighbors - Indian border.
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Development With Tibetan Characteristics :: Beijing's plan to throw money at the problem won't work. - By BEN HILLMAN
The problems are not just economic. The historically unprecedented movement of non-Tibetans into Tibetan cities and towns has fueled Tibetans' insecurity about the future of their homeland's ethnic distinctiveness. Even many Tibetans on the state payroll fear that their cultural heritage and way of life are under threat. Their fears are compounded by national and local government policies that seek to curtail the influence of organized Tibetan Buddhism by placing restrictions on religious practices and monastic life—a cornerstone of Tibetan cultural identity.

Unfortunately, Beijing continues to insist that ethnic tensions are the result of meddling by "separatist forces led by the Dalai clique." Conveniently, this allows China's leaders to divert attention away from critical domestic policy failures
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China bugging UK businessmen, says MI5
The Chinese government is not only hacking into computers but also bugging, burgling and blackmailing British business executives in search of commercial secrets, the British intelligence agency was quoted saying on Sunday.

The British newspaper Sunday Times quoted a secret MI5 document as saying spies from the Chinese army and public security ministry approach British businessmen with offers of gifts, including cameras and memory sticks that have been found to contain electronic bugs which provide the Chinese remote access to users' computers. The MI5 says the Chinese government constitutes "one of the most significant espionage threats to the UK".

The newspaper said a 14-page document, written by the MI5's Centre for the Protection of National Infrastructure, catalogues Chinese hacking attacks on British defence, energy, communications and manufacturing companies. Any British company might be at risk if it holds information which would benefit the Chinese, the Sunday Times report said.

China has occasionally attempted sexual entrapment to target senior British political figures. Two years ago an aide to Gordon Brown had his BlackBerry phone stolen after being picked up by a Chinese woman who had approached him in a Shanghai disco.

The report said that the practice has now extended to commercial espionage. It said that Chinese agents are trying to cultivate "long-term relationships" with the employees of key British companies: "An undercover intelligence officer may try to develop a friendship or business relationship, often using lavish hospitality and flattery".

"Chinese intelligence services have also been known to exploit vulnerabilities such as sexual relationships and illegal activities to pressurise individuals to co-operate with them", the report added.
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The original in Times has this in addition -
China bugs and burgles Britain
“Hotel rooms in major Chinese cities, such as Beijing and Shanghai, which are frequented by foreigners, are likely to be bugged ... hotel rooms have been searched while the occupants are out of the room.”
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[quote="csharma"]Naivety of US (under Obama) and European leaders in full display here. Obama and his advisers thought that by giving some more bhaav to China and forming a G2, China will be happy and become more cooperative. Results are here for all to see.

India should not get drawn into this west vs China thing and use this opportunity to improve ties with China.[/quote]

I agree 100%.
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KaranR wrote:
csharma wrote:Naivety of US (under Obama) and European leaders in full display here. Obama and his advisers thought that by giving some more bhaav to China and forming a G2, China will be happy and become more cooperative. Results are here for all to see.

India should not get drawn into this west vs China thing and use this opportunity to improve ties with China.[/quote]

I agree 100%.
I feel obliged to reiterate a position that has been repeated ad infinitum on this forum. Present-day China does not subscribe to the usual notions of friendship, nor the accepted principles of favours done and favours returned. This notion of "improving ties" with China is a chimera. China backs off when faced with strength, and bullies when these roles are reversed. India's best strategy is to build strength, if necessary by leveraging the US-China confrontation.

The cultural stereotypes I allude to do not apply to traditional Chinese culture, only the aberration that we see today after half a century of Mao and CPC rule.

I speak from considerable experience.
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U.S. Arms for Taiwan Send Beijing a Message from NYT
From that article -
some administration officials suggested privately that the timing of the arms sales and the tougher language on Iran was calculated to send a message to Beijing to avoid assumptions that President Obama would be deferential to China over American security concerns and existing agreements.
Twice, the Chinese prime minister, Wen Jiabao, sent an underling to represent him at meetings with Mr. Obama, in what diplomats said was an intentional snub. Mr. Obama later had to track down Mr. Wen, surprising him and appearing at the doorway of a conference room where Mr. Wen was meeting with the leaders of South Africa, Brazil and India.
he planned to double American exports in the next five years, an ambitious goal that cannot be met unless he somehow persuades China to let its currency appreciate, making Chinese products more expensive in the United States and American products more affordable in China.
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The present Chinese Red Army think democracy will weaken their nation, their governance and their level of marxian sharing (basically bread and soup - so basic needs and keep everthing else out of reach - because of the cost for the masses). If you have money you can have two children or more if not. They seem to be the worst capitalist using marxian ideology and a red army to control their government. If they democratise their country I think people's trust in each other will increase. Ofcouse for a decade of issues such as poverty and pulling together will be there but then people will come up on their own as a nation of nations with strength and faith in everyone and so in diversity of voices and parties even at par with many Western nations. But The present army holds blockade towards such a freedom and such a development of the China as a nation.
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csharma wrote:Naivety of US (under Obama) and European leaders in full display here. Obama and his advisers thought that by giving some more bhaav to China and forming a G2, China will be happy and become more cooperative. Results are here for all to see.

India should not get drawn into this west vs China thing and use this opportunity to improve ties with China.

CRamS ji

if PRC is behaving like this after western G2 moves (your first point), how would it respond to Indian peace guestures?

India should be pragmatic about it's national interests and act accordingly. There is no pro/against anyone, it should always be pro-Indian.

These alliances must be issue based and must be built on win-win approaches.
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RamaY wrote: ...


if PRC is behaving like this after western G2 moves (your first point), how would it respond to Indian peace guestures?

...
If they behave towards India in an arrogant and disrespectful way, then they would be doing India a big favor, because there would be no illusions about their true nature. If they are acting all sweet and flattering to the Indian elites, that's when we have to worry.
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^^^

Question is what do we intend to learn by changing our strategy.

IMO there are only one truth:

PRC is a strategic compitor at best and may partner with India only when it serves it's national interests.

If we agree with this positioning statement; India can focuson the issues that may present some value to PRC and partner wih it on those specific issues.

On every other issue, calculate for PRC nuicense value and prepare for Hun surprises.
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India should not get drawn into this west vs China thing and use this opportunity to improve ties with China.[/quote]

I agree 100%
I feel obliged to reiterate a position that has been repeated ad infinitum on this forum. Present-day China does not subscribe to the usual notions of friendship, nor the accepted principles of favours done and favours returned. This notion of "improving ties" with China is a chimera. China backs off when faced with strength, and bullies when these roles are reversed. India's best strategy is to build strength, if necessary by leveraging the US-China confrontation.

The cultural stereotypes I allude to do not apply to traditional Chinese culture, only the aberration that we see today after half a century of Mao and CPC rule.

I speak from considerable experience


Yes India should keep its powder dry. Trying to be friend is better than conflict or war. This however doesn’t mean we should trust China, Pakistan or any other power.
We should not get involved if USA and China wants to fight it out.
The West never cared about India, but soon as their citizens are killed or they are in conflict with another nation. They seem to make it like the world is coming to an end, so we should help.
There are two sayings; one is Italian the other French. “Let your mouth move while talking, but never let your mind be open to your opponent. Treat all foreigners as your enemy, until you get to know them better.”
With China [and Pakistan], aggression by diplomacy, keep strengthen the armed forces, duplicity.
This time India might have to fight on two fronts. Chinese’s populations is getting old and Tibet is its Achilles heel.
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Unrest grows in Hong Kong over economy and a lack of democracy
Published Date: 31 January 2010
By Keith Bradsher
http://news.scotsman.com/world/Unrest-g ... 6029563.jp

ECFA to endanger Taiwan democracy and human right: warned Chinese democracy activists
http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_con ... TAIWAN_eng
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China Rejects Demands for Greater Tibetan Autonomy

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/world ... tibet.html
Chinese officials have rejected demands by the Dalai Lama that Tibetan areas of China receive greater autonomy and be governed as a single region, Xinhua, the state news agency, reported Monday.

The report came after days of meetings in China between Chinese officials and two envoys of the Dalai Lama, the spiritual leader of the Tibetans, who lives in exile in India. During the talks, a senior Chinese official, Du Qinglin, told the envoys that the concept of a “Greater Tibet” and “high-level autonomy” violated the Chinese Constitution, Xinhua reported. Mr. Du insisted that talks would progress “only if the Dalai Lama completely abandoned such claims,” according to the report.

The Tibetan envoys could not be reached for comment. They returned to India early Monday, according to Chhime R. Chhoekyapa, the Dalai Lama’s secretary, The Associated Press reported.
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No Autonomy for Tibet --says china
There were signs that the 9th round of talks got deadlocked in almost the same manner it did during the 8th round 15 months back. ...the envoys Lodi G. Gyari and Envoy Kelsang Gyaltsen, who left for China on January 25, have returned....

...the envoys had presented a "Memorandum on Genuine Autonomy for the Tibetan People" at the earlier round of talks 15 months back. The “memorandum puts forth Tibetan people's aspiration for genuine autonomy” and explained how it was possible to allow self-government to Tibetans within the Chinese constitution.

"Tibetan people cherish peace and stability. It is no use to cheat them and act against their will. The activities of infiltration and provocation, which are doomed to fail, will only create barriers for the talks and isolate the Dalai Lama and his followers," the official statement quoted Du as saying.

Only if the Dalai Lama completely abandoned claims of greater autonomy that a foundation for further contacts and negotiations can be laid, the department said in a statement. The talks can make no progress if the Dalai Lama’s persisted on their anti-China activities and refused to show basic respect and sincerity, Du said.
China discussing with envoys of HH DL ... does it mean that Tibet issue is very much open and alive, even in Chinese eyes?
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Arunachal students call for boycott of Chinese goods
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 529502.cms
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US poking China with Taiwan weapon deal is not enough? Here you go another drama from pentagon this time
“This growing influence, combined with democratic values it shares with the United States, an open political system, and a commitment to global stability, will present many opportunities for cooperation,” it said.

“India’s military capabilities are rapidly improving through increased defence acquisitions and they now include long-range maritime surveillance, maritime interdiction and patrolling, air interdiction and strategic airlift,” the report noted.

“India has already established its worldwide military influence through counter piracy, peacekeeping, humanitarian assistance, and disaster relief efforts. As its military capabilities grow, India will contribute to Asia as a net provider of security in the Indian Ocean and beyond,” report said.

On the other hand, the report expressed concerns over the lack of Chinese transparency over its military development. “The US welcomes a strong, prosperous, and successful China that plays a greater global role. However, lack of transparency and the nature of China’s military development and decision-making processes raise legitimate questions about its future conduct and intentions within Asia and beyond,” the report said.
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^^^Right.

So after Sri Sri Obama bowed repeatedly and deferentially (literally and figratively) to the CPC last year in declaring PRC as a 'stakeholder' in maintaining stability in South Asia (whatever that means) and then canceling a meet with HH the Dalai Lama (Forget the vain Sarkozy who kept up his dinner date with HH, even our own Hon MMS publicly approved of HH's Arunachal visit).....

....the lack of any positive results causes re-evals in DC as it re-learns age-old wisdom that bullies simply can't be appeased (QED by construction).....

And now we have the yanquis bestowing upon the unused, bemused (not to mention, amused) yindooze the vainglorious title of 'partner in maintaining security in IOR'.

Where's the lungi dance icon, quick?!?!
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Lawd knows I'm no fan of the peeple's lepublic but articles like these ar so over the top, I have to question the grand assumption underlying them...

Power and fear from China - S Prasannarajan in India Today

Always liked SP's writing style. Written substance, not so much.
The Chinese growth story--the story of our times--has always been about the clash between marketplace and mind space. Well, there will be any number of Sinologists to tell you that it has nothing to do with communism and everything to do with Confucius. Or with what the residents of Zhongnanhai call Chinese characteristics. There are so many euphemisms to name the beast.
The truth is: China lives in mortal fear of its own shadow.
Mao may be confined to the souvenir shop and Big Marx may be less ubiquitous than Big Mac but the awesome Chinese project is built on a Leninist party structure which abhors questions--and knowledge. It's the oldest fear of a system that treats its people as an abstraction-- the masses. It's the fear that authored Mao's Cultural Revolution, Stalin's Great Terror, and Deng's Tiananmen Square. The continuing Chinese story of free markets and fettered mind tells us that we have not come very far. It's not that China will win this war against the Internet--or information. It can't. This war of the paranoid brings out the fallibility of the power that, in the fantasy of those who celebrate the demise of the West, aspires to rule the world. Sometime in the future, a Google search will bring up the defeat of the last Big Lie through a billion results.
My beef is with the bolded part.
How does the author know for sure? Everything has a shelf life and will die eventually. Big deal, so what?
I fail to see how the grand assumption here - that China's 'system' is doomed to fail - has to hold due to some law of nature only. Sadly, nature provides no such comfort. Mass-murderers and genociders in the past haven't always failed. Their descendants rule entire continents today (N Amerika, Aus.). Don't see why Chinese barbarism is uniquely destined to fail only.
Just my 2 paise only. Happy to be proven wrong on this one.
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Looks like China wants to be first in every thing

9-year-old girl becomes 'world's youngest mom'
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Cracking Chimerica Dhruva Jaishankar in the IE
While concluding, he says -
The volte face by the US on China will almost certainly have implications for India’s relationships with both countries, as it would in any such strategic triangle. New Delhi will now face critical choices in coming months on a range of issues, but it is unlikely that a single formula will guide it through what could be a turbulent period....The Indian leadership was quick to anticipate the possibility of a closer US-China relationship, and the implications it would have for Indian interests. It must now be equally nimble in reacting to what could well be a nasty break-up.
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Hari Seldon wrote:^^^Right.

And now we have the yanquis bestowing upon the unused, bemused (not to mention, amused) yindooze the vainglorious title of 'partner in maintaining security in IOR'.

Where's the lungi dance icon, quick?!?!
Strange how democratic presidents end up doing exact opposite of what they promised once they come to power - Clinton wanted to be firm with 'tyrants in Beijing' but ended up bowing to them, Obama started off with a big bow and now has suddenly developed self-respect and grown b..s.

Having made so much noise, Beijing will look silly if Obama meets DL and rubs it home by giving F16 to Taiwan on top of existing supplies. Domestic politics and low ratings plus disasters in healthcare front will force him to do that. Keeping up with rhetoric will force Beijing to act...

Interesting days ahead, let us all wear lungis and get pot loads of maal ready
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What kind of visas do we Issue to visitors from Taiwan ?
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Dunno what to make of this but its making waves on drudge for sure.

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Nihat wrote:What kind of visas do we Issue to visitors from Taiwan ?
Last I checked, our quasi-diplomatic post in Taipei issued regular stamps on Taiwanese passports.

Interestingly though, our other diplomatic posts treat people of Taiwanese birth who have acquired other citizenships at par with people of Chinese birth, and subject them to additional scrutiny. The additional scrutiny is a fine idea, but we might send an interesting message by offering, in formal terms, distinct treatment to people of Taiwanese birth...
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Currency Dispute Likely to Further Fray U.S.-China Ties


By MARK LANDLER
Published: February 3, 2010

WASHINGTON — To the growing list of grievances between the United States and China, add one more: the Obama administration is reviving American pressure on China to stop artificially depressing its currency, a policy that fuels its persistent trade gap with the United States.

More Trouble for China
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

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hehehe :D me being a pessimist in this case is wishing to see US impose trade sanctions on china with EU following the suit and India taking a chance. :P
May be ,me being an ultra pessimist is speculating a next economic shut down in China?
whatever my wishes and speculations may be,its time for India to act smart and pressure china to open its markets for Indian goods as per the trade agreements,else shut down the markets for chinese goods.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

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http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100206/t ... b2fc3.html

I know folks here and everyone in general is skeptical about the so-called China bubble which has been floated around for years now but here is the Japanese FM adding fuel to the recent fire...if anyone should know bubbles, it should be the Japs. :)
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