Agni 3 tested successfully

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Feb 2010 11:12

Just In

Agni-3 successfully test fired

http://www.sindhtoday.net/news/1/101986.htm

Austin already posted in the Missile Thread.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 07 Feb 2010 11:13

Good news. Thanks!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Feb 2010 11:13

ramana wrote:Just In
Agni-3 successfully test fired
Austin already posted in the Missile Thread.

Congratulations to all, Let Chinese smell the Roses from far croners of India.
Wish Mahatma Arun was here to explain and spice up the nitty gritties.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Feb 2010 11:17

LINK

Bhadrak (Orissa), Feb 7 : India Sunday tested its indigenous long-range nuclear- capable Agni-III missile, catapulting the country into a select group of nations that have intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM)-capability, defence sources said.

The 3,000-km range missile, which is capable of carrying warheads weighing up to 1.5 tonnes, was tested from the Inner Wheeler Island at Dhamra, a launch site in Bhadrak district, about 200 km from Orissa capital Bhubaneswar, at 10.46 a.m.

This is the fourth test of the missile. The first test, from the same defence base on July 9, 2006, was unsuccessful. The second stage of the rocket had failed to separate from themissile quickly enough and the missile had fallen short of its target.

The DRDO-developed missile was tested again on April 12, 2007, and May 9, 2008, respectively and both the tests were successful.

Agni-III, one of the Agni series missiles, is a two-stage solid propellant missile with a length of 17 mt, diameter 2 mt and launch weight of 50 tonnes.

While Agni-I is a 750-800 km short-range missile, Agni-II has a range of more than 1,500 km. Both have already been inducted into the armed forces.

Copyright Indo Asian News

Need post flight analysis.

sum · Post by **sum** » 07 Feb 2010 11:20

India Sunday tested its indigenous long-range nuclear- capable Agni-III missile, catapulting the country into a select group of nations that have intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM)-capability, defence sources said.

Hasn't it it been tested already earlier?

If so, why this statement of getting catapulted into nations having IRBM capability as if we weren't in it already?

Surely, even the inducted A-II is a IRBM or has it been put in a cloud after recent user failures?

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 07 Feb 2010 11:33

sum wrote:If so, why this statement of getting catapulted into nations having IRBM capability as if we weren't in it already?

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Wiki says that the final test is scheduled in Oct 2009 (which got postponed until now). I guess that may explain the statement a bit. Gurus can add more on this.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 07 Feb 2010 11:42

good news but this jingo will be happy only when they induct the agni-V.

Marten wrote:Is this user testing?

PS: Was all set to go yin b4 da log, and then saw R-garu had created this thread.

threads like this are started separately for later archiving which is not usually done for the regular threads.

SivaVijay · Post by **SivaVijay** » 07 Feb 2010 11:52

Will we be putting A3 in a canister anytime in the future...? Wish Arun_S was here would love to read his thoughts.....

pkudva · Post by **pkudva** » 07 Feb 2010 11:56

Induction is expected to be in 2012, further testing will be required.

may 1 or 2 more because once the system is tested then it will be handed over to BDL for commercial production. We need to plan for a road map as to how many missiles are required.

Order will have to given to BDL based on the clearance from the CCS. So more of a planning and technology transfer will mean we can induct it only in 2012.

Marten wrote:
Rahul M wrote:good news but this jingo will be happy only when they induct the agni-V.
threads like this are started separately for later archiving which is not usually done for the regular threads.
Do we know about the induction schedule for A3? I'm more than happy we have this going. A5 would be even better!

PS: Rahul, that was intended to be a (lame) joke. I saw his reply as well.

vasu_ray · Post by **vasu_ray** » 07 Feb 2010 12:01

once A-5 gets tested with the canister, the A-3 will as well and probably will be included during user testing/training of A-3

this also means production run of A-3 will happen only after A-5 testing

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 07 Feb 2010 12:05

SivaVijay wrote:Wish Arun_S was here would love to read his thoughts.....

Watch this thread for his views.

rakall · Post by **rakall** » 07 Feb 2010 12:06

Marten wrote:
Rahul M wrote:good news but this jingo will be happy only when they induct the agni-V.
threads like this are started separately for later archiving which is not usually done for the regular threads.
Do we know about the induction schedule for A3? I'm more than happy we have this going. A5 would be even better!

PS: Rahul, that was intended to be a (lame) joke. I saw his reply as well.

I think A3 will not see full induction into the Strategic forces. It might see limited induction in a LSP mode as an interim measure.. It will serve as a platform to test the tech required for A-5.

When A-5 is tested 4-5times successfully it will enter large scale induction.. and, i think, slowly A-1,2,3 will be pahsed out..
Even though A-1,2,3 are road/rail mobile - the key difference with A-5 is it is to be a canisterized missile.. which means a lot more flexibility in terms of mobility, maintainence, logistics & survivability.. and easier to deploy onboards SSBN's.

So the canisterised missiles (and their submarine versions) will take over.. A-5 being China-centric and the Shourya being Paki-centric..

vasu_ray · Post by **vasu_ray** » 07 Feb 2010 13:05

these naval ships in the down range near the point of A-3 impact, sport a Revathi radar or can host the LRTR (enhanced to 1500km) as well?

derkonig · Post by **derkonig** » 07 Feb 2010 13:32

AoA yand MaoA...
AK phyrr....

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Feb 2010 13:58

Agni-3 Test Fired Successfully - TS Subramanian, The Hindu
Excerpts

The more than 3,500-km range home-grown ballistic missile, believed to be most lethal of the weapon systems developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) scientists, was blasted at 10.50 hrs and covered the pre-designated range with 100 per cent accuracy, top officials told The Hindu from Wheeler Island soon after the successful launch.

When contacted, V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister and Director-General, DRDO, said it was a fantastic launch and a “hat-trick for Agni-III with three successes”. The trajectory went perfectly according to the plan till the last decimal place, and only mathematical people would understand the success, he said. “It gave us full range and pinpoint accuracy,” he added.

A.Sivathanu Pillai, CEO and MD, BrahMos Aerospace, called the success an “important milestone for the country. It will lead to induction of the missile”. The success would bring credit to DRDO scientists, he said.

A. Selvamurthy, Chief Controller, Life Sciences and Human Resources, DRDO also termed it as an “important milestone in developing the country's defence and developing the second strike capability. The flight proved the robustbness of all the systems and software”.

With the third consecutive success of Agni-III, he said “it is now a proven missile. It is a big morale booster for our missile scientists and institutions”, he observed.

Avinash Chander, Agni programme director and director, Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), called it a “perfect success”. Stating that all the mission objectives were met, he said all the events listed in the launch were executed with accuracy and described it as a “thrilling experience”.

A top DRDO missile technologist said the mission was a “good success and the trajectory of the flight was excellent. Everything worked well, including all payload systems”, he added.

Even though the missile did not carry a live warhead, its nuclear triggering mechanism worked well. Instead of a nuclear warhead, it carried chemical explosives, the missile technologist added.

Looks like it was a great success. Well done DRDO.

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Feb 2010 14:05

SSridhar wrote:Agni-3 Test Fired Successfully - TS Subramanian, The Hindu

Excerpts

............ Even though the missile did not carry a live warhead, its nuclear triggering mechanism worked well. Instead of a nuclear warhead, it carried chemical explosives, the missile technologist added.

Interesting paragraph.

Masaru · Post by **Masaru** » 07 Feb 2010 14:28

-del-

jaladipc · Post by **jaladipc** » 07 Feb 2010 14:40

As was anticipated.
Kudoos to DRDO.
now anticipating the modified K-15 launch

parshuram · Post by **parshuram** » 07 Feb 2010 15:09

Shiv is pretty fast these days

A- III pics on livefist

Link

Kersi D · Post by **Kersi D** » 07 Feb 2010 15:23

ramana wrote:LINK

Bhadrak (Orissa), Feb 7 : India Sunday tested its indigenous long-range nuclear- capable Agni-III missile....

...... The 3,000-km range missile, which is capable of carrying warheads weighing up to 1.5 tonnes.......
Need post flight analysis.

What will be range with
1) 1000 kg payload. 3,500 km ????
2) 500 kg payload. 4,000 km ????

Missile gurus, please educate the lesser mortals

K

ramdas · Post by **ramdas** » 07 Feb 2010 15:37

Arun:

By chemical explosives they mean conventional explosives. Not a chemical warhead. We are signatories to the CWC.

Good to see that it was tested successfully. These three consecutive successes (especially given that every system other than guidance worked perfectly on the first flight as well) would be enough to validate the design of the system. Probably ASL could itself integrate the first few missiles as carefully as it did to the test articles and hand them to the forces to begin IOC. Beyond that, production has to shift to BDL or some such entity. This requires training new teams to produce this missile. Given this, repeated testing must occur after LSP to ensure production quality-about 5-6 trials after IOC. This is the mistake they made with A-II: not following up developmental trials with production trials (necessary for these complex systems). Hope that mistake does not happen with A-3. At least, with A-3, we have had tests in 2006,2007,2008,2010. In the A-2 case, that process was itself a little slower 1999, 2001 and 2004.

Rather than leaving things half done, A-3 must be put into production. If we wait for A-5, it is a wait for at least 4 more years for development tests to complete. Given the precarious situation we are in, time is critical. Of course, A-5 development should continue apace with A-3 and A-5 togethr becoming the mainstay of the land based strategic forces

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Feb 2010 15:57

indeed. we cannot wait for cansisterized A5 which is 7 yrs away from IOC surely (5 yrs test pgm, 2 user of user-trials and production start). for deterrence to be kept up we need a good mix of A2 and A3 in interim which can serve for 15 yrs until A5 units replace them

photo in link below:
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 102369.ece

India’s longest range nuclear-capable Agni-III was successfully test-fired from the Wheeler Island, off the Orissa coast on Sunday.

The more than 3,500-km range home-grown ballistic missile, believed to be most lethal of the weapon systems developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) scientists, was test-fired at 10.50 hrs and covered the pre-designated range with 100 per cent accuracy, top officials told The Hindu from Wheeler Island soon after the successful launch.

The solid-propelled, two-stage missile can carry nuclear warheads weighing up to 1.5 tonnes. It is 17 metres tall and has a launch weight of 50 tonnes with a two-metre diameter.

When contacted, V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister and Director-General, DRDO, said it was a fantastic launch and a “hat-trick for Agni-III with three successes”. The trajectory went perfectly according to plan till the last decimal place, he said. “It gave us full range and pinpoint accuracy,” he added.

Avinash Chander, Agni-III mission director, called it a “perfect success”, stating that all the mission objectives were met. Chander, also the Director of Advanced Systems Laboratory - which designed and developed the Agni-III - said all the events listed in the launch were executed with accuracy and described it as a “thrilling experience".

A. Sivathanu Pillai, CEO and MD, BrahMos Aerospace, called the success an “important milestone for the country. It will lead to induction of the missile”. The success would bring credit to DRDO scientists, he said.

W. Selvamurthy, Chief Controller, Life Sciences and Human Resources, DRDO also termed it as an “important milestone in developing the country's defence and developing the second strike capability. The flight proved the robustbness of all the systems and software”.

With the third consecutive success of Agni-III, he said “it is now a proven missile. It is a big morale booster for our missile scientists and institutions”, he observed.

A top DRDO missile technologist said the mission was a “good success and the trajectory of the flight was excellent. Everything worked well, including all payload systems”, he added.

Even though the missile did not carry a live warhead, its nuclear triggering mechanism worked well. Instead of a nuclear warhead, it carried chemical explosives, the missile technologist added.
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p.s. so it looks like they set it to airburst like a nuclear device but used a regular HE
warhead of same weight instead. I am sure the OPV sent to target zone must have taken
lots of photos using pro quality equipment.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 07 Feb 2010 15:57

The nation of face savers better start worrying about flowers dropping from the sky when the poopie hits the proverbial fan. Kudos to the team !!

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 07 Feb 2010 16:07

╬ DRDO PRESS RELEASE: 7th Feb 10 ╬

The Indian long range missile AGNI3 with a range capability of 3500km is flight tested successfully by DRDO at 10:50 am from the Wheeler Island, in the Bay of Bengal off the coast of Odisha. The AGNI-3 Missile tested for the full range, hit the target with pinpoint accuracy and met all the mission objectives. Two down range ships located near the target have tracked and witnessed the Missile reaching the target accurately.

The Marker Pen like AGNI-3 Missile is 17 meters long with 2 metres in diameter. The Missile is a two stage solid propellant system with a pay load capability of 1.5 tons. During the course of flight the Missile reached a peak height of 350 kms and re-entered into the atmosphere successfully tolerating the skin temperatures of nearly 3000 degree Celsius.

The missile is equipped with a state of the art computer system, navigated with a most advanced Navigation system and guided with an innovative guidance scheme. The Navigation system used for guidance is first of its kind. Number of Radars and electro optical tracking systems along the coast of Odisha have monitored the path of the Missile and evaluated all the parameters in realtime.

The launch is part of the pre-induction trial. Indian Army (the user) has carried out the total launch operations guided by the DRDO scientists. Now the Missile system will be fully inducted into the armed forces.

Mission Director Sri Avinash Chander and Project Director Dr V.G. Sekaran have guided and controlled the complete Missile integration and launch activities. Scientific Advisor to Raksha Mantri and Director General, DRDO Dr V.K. Saraswat has over seen the total launch operations.

Dr V.K. Saraswat and Sri Avinash Chander congratulated all the Scientists and employees of DRDO and the industry partners.

jaladipc · Post by **jaladipc** » 07 Feb 2010 16:22

Kersi D wrote:<span>
ramana wrote:[url=<a linkindex="60" href="http://www.littleabout.com/news/66724,i ... ssile.html]LINK[/url]" class="smarterwiki-linkify">http://www.littleabout.com/news/66724,i ... ssile.html]LINK[/url]</a></span>

Need post flight analysis.
What will be range with
1) 1000 kg payload. 3,500 km ????
2) 500 kg payload. 4,000 km ????

Missile gurus, please educate the lesser mortals

K

The payload Vs Range for A-III was always a myth.In what I can say is both DRDO and MOD are playing a fair game to avoid the possible confrontation of west regarding A-III specs.

Additionally, Agni III, an intermediate-range ballistic missile was developed by India as the successor to Agni II. Intended to be a two-stage ballistic missile capable of nuclear weapons delivery, it is touted as India’s nuclear deterrent against China. The missile is likely to support a wide range of warhead configurations, with a 3,500 km range and a total payload weight of 2490 kg. The two-stage solid fuel missile is compact and small enough for easy mobility and flexible deployment on various surface/sub-surface platforms. The last development test of Agni III was conducted in August 2009 before being handed over to the army for user trails.

http://www.drdo.gov.in/dpi/2009/oct09.pdf

Infact ,I dont think the India rests far behind the west/russia in propellant technology.while comparing the similar specifications of western and russian missiles,the above link makes me trust it

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Feb 2010 16:36

Marten wrote:Is this user testing?

This test of the Agni-III was a “User” trial. The launch was carried out by the Indian Army.

See the below Ministry of Defence press release:

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Sunday, February 07, 2010
Ministry of Defence

FOURTH TEST FLIGHT OF LONG RANGE MISSILE AGNI-3 SUCCESSFUL

16:31 IST

The fourth flight of the Indian long range missile AGNI-3 with a range capability of 3500 km was tested successfully by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) at 10:50 this morning from the Wheeler Island, in the Bay of Bengal off the coast of Odisha. The AGNI-3 Missile tested for the full range, hit the target with pin-point accuracy and met all the mission objectives. Two down range ships located near the target tracked and witnessed the Missile reaching the target accurately.

The marker pen like AGNI-3 Missile is 17 meters long and 2 metres in diameter. The Missile is a two stage solid propellant system with a pay load capability of 1.5 tons. During the course of flight the Missile reached a peak height of 350 kms and re-entered into the atmosphere successfully tolerating the skin temperatures of nearly 3000 degree Celsius.

The missile is equipped with a state of the art computer system, navigated with a most advanced Navigation system and guided with an innovative guidance scheme. The Navigation system used for guidance is first of its kind. Number of Radars and electro optical tracking systems along the coast of Odisha have monitored the path of the Missile and evaluated all the parameters in realtime.

The launch is part of the pre-induction trial. Indian Army (the user) has carried out the total launch operations guided by the DRDO scientists. Now the Missile system will be fully inducted into the armed forces.

Mission Director Sri Avinash Chander and Project Director Dr V.G. Sekaran have guided and controlled the complete Missile integration and launch activities. Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister and Director General, DRDO Dr V.K. Saraswat have over seen the total launch operations.

Dr V.K. Saraswat and Sri Avinash Chander congratulated all the Scientists and employees of DRDO and the industry partners.

***
Sitanshu Kar

PIB

Also see the DRDO press release posted by Kanson just prior to the post immediately mine. The DRDO release also confirms that this was a "user" trial.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 07 Feb 2010 18:22

nuke capable agni missile tested successfully

The sleek missile is equipped with sophisticated navigation, guidance and control systems along with advanced on-board computer systems. The electronic systems are hardened for higher vibration, thermal and acoustic effects, an official of Defence Research and Development Organisation said. A high performance indigenous ring laser gyro-based navigation system, which was flight-tested for the first time during the last Agni-III trial, was a success, he said

vasu_ray · Post by **vasu_ray** » 07 Feb 2010 22:05

probably they will wait until the first test flight of A-5 that is canister launched to make any changes to the A-3 before its production starts, further user trials will keep validating 'minor risks'

do gurus here know if A-3,5 is used to launch a mil sat to LEO, what could be the throw weight and does that change significantly based on the launch position?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 07 Feb 2010 22:11

we are missing arun_s ji's analysis for this great news.
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I am sure there should be another trial done launched during night.

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from aroor's pic, the stage separation mesh has clear air passage or it is a transparent hi tensile glass material?. Asking this question from drag angle?

sum · Post by **sum** » 07 Feb 2010 22:14

The more than 3,500-km range home-grown ballistic missile,

Love the "more than 3500" phrase which says so much without ever mentioning the actual number..

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Feb 2010 22:22

Saik , the interstage is empty space.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 07 Feb 2010 22:36

Congratulations....

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 07 Feb 2010 22:52

During the course of flight the Missile reached a peak height of 350 kms

Hmmmm so is the A3 going to be tweaked into an A-SAT weapon ???

RayC · Post by **RayC** » 07 Feb 2010 22:54

Good.

Now China must think seriously as to how cute they can get with India!!

Well done!

Proud!

babbupandey · Post by **babbupandey** » 07 Feb 2010 22:55

Any idea of how many warheads it carried?
I would be disappointed if it carried only one.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Feb 2010 23:03

parshuram wrote:Shiv is pretty fast these days

A- III pics on livefist

Link

Anyone notice the tracks at the bottom of the launch vehicle

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Feb 2010 23:05

Anujan wrote:
parshuram wrote:Shiv is pretty fast these days

A- III pics on livefist

Link
Anyone notice the tracks at the bottom of the launch vehicle

The separation is vented interstage, used for stage separation. Else they would have to use retro rockets. For a 3 stage development of Agni, the vented interstage will go.

AdityaM · Post by **AdityaM** » 07 Feb 2010 23:08

ok, which one of you updated wikipedia page on A3?

Rahul M wrote:good news but this jingo will be happy only when they induct the agni-V.

Is there no agni4 ?

Yipieee, post number 500!

vasu_ray · Post by **vasu_ray** » 07 Feb 2010 23:11

smaller missiles can be used as ASAT weapons, it could very well be a enhanced sounding rocket or a brother of upcoming PDV

A-3 carries one warhead, A-5 will be MIRVed, while pragmatic China will think about even one warhead

vavinash · Post by **vavinash** » 07 Feb 2010 23:12

I think Agni-IV will be Agni-SLBM based on Agni-III. I hope that is tested as soon as arihant is ready and inducted.