Cain Marko wrote:Has the Apg-79 uber version been cleared for the MRCA? This could make some difference.
Thats a million dollar question. What we know so far is that TOT "HAS NOT" been approved by the US Gov AS YET!-
AN/APG - 79 - F/A-18 (Boeing - Developed by Raytheon) - "Limited TOT"
Various sources -
Asked about deliberations on licensing the so-called AESA radars for export to India, U.S. Navy Secretary Donald Winter told the Reuters Aerospace and Defense Summit: "I know that that's under consideration." "There's a very well detailed process that is followed by the department (of defense) that I'm not expert on, and I would defer to those who are," Winter said on Wednesday.
"The Indians want as much co-production and as much technology transfer as they can get," said retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Kohler, who stepped down in August as the Pentagon's top arms-sale official. "The U.S. government has to decide how far it will go toward meeting India's requests." Lockheed Martin and Boeing declined to comment on the U.S. government's delay in approving their India packages, as did the Indian embassy in Washington.
The United States already has sent AESA technology to Singapore and the United Arab Emirates, but they did not demand as much access to the underlying know-how as India has done, Ostrove said. Washington might resolve its AESA-related dilemma by clearing a "dumbed down" version, he said. Substituting a less powerful processor, for instance, would make it less capable than one now flown by U.S. Navy F/A-18E/F Super Hornet pilots. "This would allow the Indians to build the radar themselves while preventing the most advanced American technology from leaving the country,"
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0622871920071206
As far as the transfer of source codes for AESA is concerned, Boeing is still at the "can't discuss in an open forum, lets see how this plays out" mode. At the same time, the fact that India has agreed to the US end user agreement during Hillary Clinton's visit here means that the full-up Super Hornet IN, inclusive of the upgraded GE F414 engine, the APG-79 AESA and other key systems are cleared for transfer. So it's quite possible that the version of the AESA offered will be full-spec
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/10/vi ... super.html
here will be a limited ToT on the radar, up to the level approved by the US Government. However, Raytheon has stated that the level of ToT approved by the US Government. However, Raytheon has stated that the level of ToT offered will be compliant with the RFP requirements. Delivery of the first F/A-18IN Super Hornets can begin approximately 36 months after contract award.
Is he confirming a dumbed down version?? grrr....
http://spsaviation.net/mmrca.asp?id=2
http://www.india-defence.com/reports/3826
And the same restrictions apply to the F-16 AESA Radar (LM - developed by Northrop Grumman)
What we know about other AESA radar approvals of the rest of the aircrafts??
1) RBE2 AESA - Rafale (Dassault - France, developed by Thales) - Full TOT + Source codes
This is not an issue with us. We will not only fully transfer the technology for the AESA radar but also provide the software source code so that that the IAF can programme it in the way it wishes to,” Chabriol (J.P.H.P. Chabriol, Dassault’s senior vice president for military sales) told a group of visiting Indian journalists at the company’s headquarters.
2) Zhuk-AE - Mig-35 (Russia- Russia's Phazotron NIIR corporation) - Full TOT + Secure codes + co-development.
Russia, on top of a full technology transfer, is offering India help in building its own advanced radar. "We are ready to develop a new advanced radar jointly with India," said Vyacheslav Tishchenko, head of the Phazotron-NIIR Corporation.
3) Gripen NG (Saab and SELEX Galileo are to enter collaborative development of AESA) - Full TOT.
Saab's level of commitment can be found on the Gripens website itself..
-Saab is willing and able to provide ToT, that exceeds the requirements, to the Indian Government. The level of ToT will enable India to manage all aspects of the life cycle including design.
-Access to all levels of technology
-"Saab is willing to enter a joint venture with Indian Aerospace Industry with the aim to develop the next generation of fighters (MCA)"
4) Captor-E (CAESAR) AESA radar (Eurofighter - EADS) Full TOT
An upgrade of the current Captor-M, and Selex Galileo working on a "swashplate" configuration, which is a canted radar on a rotating mount in under trials and will only be in active production by 2015. Though this will be a natural successor to the Captor-E, not sure if this is or will be offered as part of future upgrades. I guess if the aircraft is selected it would only be logical.