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I don't see this posted here. From the beeb.
Pakistan inequality fuelling Taliban support
Khalid Aziz, a retired senior official from North West Pakistan, explained why nonetheless the Taliban's message still resonates with some in Pakistan:

"The Taliban is a romantic movement. They are groups of Robin Hoods," he said. "Their message is there is a lot of injustice and we will give you land, we will look after you, we will be the empowered future - join us and be part of the future."


This message, along with the anti-Americanism resulting from the invasion of Afghanistan, fuels the Taliban's popularity, particularly among the dispossessed.

There is now speculation that the Taliban might make a concerted effort to win control of the country's most powerful province, Punjab.

The Taliban can see opportunities there - Punjab may be the country's richest state, but many Punjabis do not know where their next meal is coming from and in rural areas there is real despair.
The leading farming families in Pakistan are generally described as feudals. The Taliban denounce the feudals as exploiters of the common man.

"The mullahs say 'those big bad feudals, what did they give you, what did they do for you? You are poor and we'll give you land, we'll give you water, and milk and honey will flow through the rivers. You will inherit paradise on earth, and if your kid blows himself up he will go straight to heaven', it is a land grab," Abida Hussain, a member of one of Punjab's feudals, said.
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This is a good post in that blog. Can be used here

Pakistan inequality fuelling Taliban support
Anonymous said...
I know I am going to regret responding to your tripe but here goes:

The Muslims in India are extremely poor and marginalized. 2006 Sachar committee report obviously is a pretty good indictment of the 'Muslims in India are doing so well'

This is something that irritates me, that all the blame for the fact that the bulk of the Muslim community is poor today is put on the governments of post-independence India.

But were all Muslims doing well in pre-independence India? Leave alone the British Raj were all Muslims rich under the Mughal Raj? Or the Delhi Sultanate? Or the many "Muslim" kingdoms in the subcontinent? Or for that matter, the Muslim paradise that is presumably current-day Pakistan?

News for you, old chap. The partition of India saw most of the well-off Muslims in what is now India move to Pakistan. Those remaining behind were therefore - you got it - largely the poor.

It is not my claim that things are great for Muslims in India. Surely not. But you have to recognize that the status of Muslims in India was not great on the eve of Independence - the bulk of Muslims were poor even then. So were the bulk of Hindus. Now, if you want to claim that poor Hindus have done better than poor Muslims in post-independence India, that's different but I am not aware of such an analysis, not even by the Sachar committee.

The Sachar committee gathered a huge amount of data but actually doesn't do a great job of *analyzing* the data. For a critique, see Steven Wilkinson's article "A Note on the Analysis in the Sachar Report" published in the Economic and Political Weekly, volume 42, Number 10, 2007.

Secondly, you just treat all Muslims as a homogeneous lot which is very far from being the case. The following excerpt from Wilkinson's article may interest you:

In fact, on many measures, Muslims are doing better in western and southern states than they are in the rest of the country. Just to give one example, although in general Muslim literacy rates are below the Indian average, in 10 of the 21 states studied (including Maharashtra, Gujarat, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka) Muslim literacy rates are actually higher than average (SCR: 53). So there is clearly something that is state- or region-specific that seems to be making a major difference to Muslims' life chances.

(SCR = Sachar Committee Report)

As journalists, maybe you guys could research why shit like this happens to the Muslims in India (snipped)

It's been done by quite a few and the work continues. I don't suppose you're interested at all but in the unlikely event you are, try Paul Brass' book The production of Hindu-Muslim violence in Contemporary India. For a different approach, try Steven Wilkinson's Votes and Violence: Electoral Competition and Ethnic Riots in India. See also the exchange between Pratap Bhanu Mehta, Ashis Nandy and Akeel Bilgrami, esp. beginning 3:15 into the clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNHqJCaL ... re=related

A final remark: Yes, shit happens and will continue to happen for the foreseeable future. There are also people fighting (often against considerable odds) to ensure that transgressions are punished and that they don't happen in the future. But the attitude in your comment is that it's someone else responsibility to fight for a just Indian society. You are apart from the society you critique despite your claim to be an "Indian Muslim."

I have seen this type of "academic" critique before. It's the stereotypical Pakistani criticism of India. From Indians, it's usually the prelude to settling in some "phoren" country. Settled abroad, or thinking of moving there, are you? Do so, but spare us your sanctimony.

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Interesting article
While the civilian government is posing to be the front governing Pakistan, the real puppeteers are Kayani and his men. They not only are the power centre in Pakistan but control most of the foreign policy objectives and machinations with special reference to India and Afghanistan.
A peek at the economy of Pakistan reveals that Pakistan is actually facing a paradox of sorts. Pakistan’s slow economy can not generate enough jobs and there is no scope for private or foreign investments because of the security situation, rising cost of doing business and energy shortages.
The public sector has very little scope for generating employment. The economic mess Pakistan finds it self in today – a slow economy with virtually no jobs is the fertile land for the likes of Hafiz Sayeed to enlist his Jihadi cadres. This economic sense is one of the major reasons for the growth of Jihadi cadres in Pakistan. Add to this the woes of the Pashtuns and the Baloch economies and the picture is complete. Where does Pakistan go from here? Only downwards!
Next in the set of paradoxes is Pakistan’s obsession with Jihadis( terrorists) as an instrument of state policy. In pursuit of Zia-ul Haq’s Islamic Pakistan, the military and ISI has allowed a wahabi and distorted Islamic mindset ( Islam is in danger!) propping up Madarsas across Pakistan to take up the cause of Islam across the Globe.
This has radicalised the society and provided the army with adequate cannon fodder for their operations against India, Israel and the West, particularly America. The Pakistani establishment may argue that these are conspiracies fabricated by vested interests to malign Pakistan but the proof in recent times in India, Afghanistan and now New York are too damning to ignore.
The world had been trying to convince US for decades that the cancer was eating up Pakistan and spreading its tentacles in Afghanistan and India through Pakistani proxies. Now that Obama has admitted to the presence of this cancer will he help Kayani prevent this self-destruction of Pakistan to ensure global security – remains the key question facing the Obama administration. Otherwise some possible scenarios for the spread of this cancer have been articulated in an earlier post “Pakistan’s Woes”.

Pakistan would do well to ignore India and concentrate on the cancer lest it becomes fatal for all.

Cancer, Not India, Primary Threat To Pakistan
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Kashmir militants 'regrouping' in Pakistan

Sooooooooooooo...................

What else is new?

BTW, someone please forward this memo to strategistS in the West.
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NRao wrote:Kashmir militants 'regrouping' in Pakistan

Sooooooooooooo...................

What else is new?

BTW, someone please forward this memo to strategistS in the West.
"The men are not locals - they have long hair and beards. Most do not speak the local language," he said.

Local citizens in the Neelum Valley told the BBC much the same thing.

"We are scared," a resident said.

"The armed men are moving around the area and are trying to cross the border.

"We can make out from their appearances and languages they are not from any part of Kashmir."
Seems like the jehadis from North Waziristan are being moved by TSPA to Neelum Valley in POK to cross LOC and commit terrorsim in Kashmir/India.
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US will soon burn, threatens Pakistan Taliban

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Worl ... 931116.cms
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WTF is going on... today is Jumma, no IED mubaraks.. onlee droneacharya is scoring runs. :((
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Qaraqorum’s part, 5 villages submerged as water level rises
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=104781
HUNZA: At least five more villages and some part of Qaraqorum Highway have gone submerged under water after appearance of Ataabad tragedy, Geo news reported.Meanwhile, Prime Minister Gilani has postponed his aerial visit, due to take place today, owing to bad weather, however, the boat service has not been restored on account of aerial visits of Chief Minister Punjab Shahbaz Sharif and Governor Salman Taseer.The water level has risen alarmingly over 337 feet, which submerged 15 kilometer long part of Qaraqorum Highway and left the major traffic suspended. Talking to Geo News, Deputy Commissioner Hunza Nagar Waqar Taj said that rescue operation has been speeded up to reopen the road and it will be opened for traffic till 3:00 pm today if no fresh land sliding occurred. He said operation is underway to remove wooden hanging bridges at four different places in Hunza Nagar to avoid damage in case of expected flooding due to water discharge from Ataabad lake.
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The Pakistaniyat will hit the fan latest by June when the rains start.
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Anything written in Outlook magazine should be treated with extreme prejudice.

OUTLOOK magazine and the people who run it are far left enimies of India. They systematically collude with Maoists and the ISI. Like the collusion with A.Roy and the Maoists terrorists recently.

The people in OUTLOOK should be investigated for colluding with the enemy and anti Indian activities and tried for treason.
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IMF Board Okays $1.13 Billion In Aid For Pakistan

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/05/ ... istan.html
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Paki asked for 11Bill from IMF and got 10% ( good for Dus percenti onlee)
Here is a worried Puckerstani.
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=239389
'The global jihadist'
What is really worrisome for Pakistan is that relations with India or the West are hostage to acts of terrorism planned and executed by non-state actors. Conspiracy theorists claim that Shehzad is a US agent who staged the whole drama, deliberately leaving a trail to implicate Pakistan in a manner that would force the reluctant Pakistani army to launch an offensive in North Waziristan. What they conveniently overlook is that had the device planted in Time Square gone off, it would have caused immense loss to life and property with disastrous consequences for Pakistan. In the aftermath of the incident, drone attacks over North Waziristan have increased manifold. The presence of US troops on Pakistani soil ostensibly for training and non-combat purposes is well known. However, partly owing to US troops already being thinly spread in Afghanistan, that does not seem a likely scenario. But US air strikes on Taliban strongholds within Pakistan cannot be ruled out.The Pakistani military is on notice like never before to launch a push in North Waziristan. As deputy chairman of the joint chiefs Lt Gen Sardar Mehmood Ali Khan put it, Pakistani forces will do it but in their own time, as it had to be done in sequence with "other battles."
The recent thaw at Thimphu was also a result of President Obama's role as a quiet facilitator. Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Quershi's telephone call on Tuesday to his Indian counterpart S M Krishna inviting him to talks in Islamabad on July 15 had a certain urgency and poignancy in the context of recent developments. It is a positive development that the two countries have not made terrorism as a precondition for talks. With Islamabad already under pressure, the US ambassador to New Delhi, against all diplomatic norms, did not mince his words while lecturing Islamabad on keeping US and Indian sensitivities on terrorism in mind.Whether it is the Kashmir issue, the water issue or other bilateral problems with New Delhi, in order to avoid a two-front situation, Islamabad will have to engage in intense diplomatic activity to keep its eastern borders free of tension. The terrorist threat from within has now gone global with potentially disastrous consequences for the Pakistani state. Gen Kayani contends that so far as a threat from India is concerned, the Pakistani military has to go by the capabilities of its eastern neighbour rather than mere intentions. In this context Afghanistan and the Taliban are seen as the strategic depth. We have to revisit this strategic paradigm with out-of-the-box thinking. For our own survival, we will have to move decisively against elements that are threatening to eat into the entrails of the state as it was envisioned by Quaid and Iqbal. Despite Pakistan's being a nuclear power, it might not be possible for long to stick to our traditional strategic thinking. Especially when we are witnessing a US-India nexus in the making.
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Dard-e Dronacharya
http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.asp ... ar&nid=263

Drone attacks on national sovereignty
Saheli Za Far
US is the sole super power of the world. May be it decides to attack Pakistan but then the question arises can US afford another war in this region? The situation has already gone out of control for US in Afghanistan and now they are more interested in engaging Taliban through negotiations rather than war. The US has wasted much money and manpower in Iraq and not so successful yet. China and Iran would not bear US presence in another neighbouring country so they won’t sit quietly. Russians would have the best opportunity to avenge obviously. American public would definitely stand against its own government, this time more aggressively due to bad condition of the economy. In those circumstances, would America be able to survive as sole super power of the world? An answer based on logic would be NO. And what if the US does not take any action if Pakistan Air Force strikes down its drones? Everyone would start taking the sole super power lightly and retaliate against it when necessary. Ultimate result would be the same. The US would not be able to maintain its status of sole super power. So the US must refrain itself from violating Pakistan’s airspace and must not hit Pakistani areas through its drones or any weapon if it wants to maintain itself as the sole super power. In this way, US would also be able to get more success in its global war against terror. Anti-American feelings would also be decreased. The US would not have to spend a heavy amount on its public diplomacy for turning public sentiments in its favour. Now, the US would have to take care of sovereignty of other nations so that its own security and sovereignty may not be attacked by anyone. Otherwise these fake incidents (Times Square incident) could actually happen and those may not be the failed one and bring disastrous result for the US
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The lady author of this article has done a good job of sussing out Paquis for what they are. Please time time out to leave a few supporting comments - at least to piss off all Pakis.
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Dipanker wrote:
NRao wrote:Kashmir militants 'regrouping' in Pakistan

Sooooooooooooo...................

What else is new?

BTW, someone please forward this memo to strategistS in the West.
"The men are not locals - they have long hair and beards. Most do not speak the local language," he said.

Local citizens in the Neelum Valley told the BBC much the same thing.

"We are scared," a resident said.

"The armed men are moving around the area and are trying to cross the border.

"We can make out from their appearances and languages they are not from any part of Kashmir."

Seems like the jehadis from North Waziristan are being moved by TSPA to Neelum Valley in POK to cross LOC and commit terrorsim in Kashmir/India.

they are getting ready to make a fake push into North Waziristan to soothe US anger/nerves.
Kudos to Brihaspati for predicting this move by TSP to safeguard the orc paltan. Can expect a lot of hangama and dramabazi in North Waziristan and US chatterati on CNN extolling TSPA bravery and fortitude in front of fundoos.
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Check this out
http://hunzalandslide.blogspot.com/

Sh1t may hit the fan by 24th May. It will cause more damage than the biggest IED mubarak
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shiv wrote:

The lady author of this article has done a good job of sussing out Paquis for what they are. Please time time out to leave a few supporting comments - at least to piss off all Pakis.

Shiv ji great idea. I just left comments there. I think the more we support such articles the more we can piss of zaid kazzab loving internet jihadis
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Check out the name of the prosecutor in Chile case.
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Prem wrote:Qaraqorum’s part, 5 villages submerged as water level rises...
What the...

When did 'Karakoram' become Qaraqorum. :-? :-?

Why for...
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Theo_Fidel wrote:
When did 'Karakoram' become Qaraqorum. :-? :-?
Ignorant kafir. Go to benis for stribes.
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Chile terror lawyer predicts case will be dropped
The Pakistani Embassy is providing legal and consular support for Khan, and speaking out in his defense. "He would have to be a very bad terrorist to enter the embassy with traces of explosive material," Ambassador Burhanul Islam said.
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tsriram wrote:Might seem like a novice question but how would the government ensure that none of the pakiness spills over to the bordering states if these joint tamashas are enacted? If we have 'joint patrolling' (yuck!) etc, how would you ensure security of the other states. For ensuring that the kashmiris are pandered to, wouldnt they be ensuring lack of security to the others. How is it that these commentators never seem to see beyond Kashmir for these solutions!
Answers are simple onlee.

all kashmirs residing in India will have to be deported back to j&k. And if any kashmir wants to enter any of the states in the Indian Union he will have to apply for a visa. People like faisal will become ineligible to apply for indian govt posts.

I think kashmiris in India will love this new development. They get to live with "brothers" who eat their apples but wont pay for them.

I forsee a exploding and super bright prospects for kashmir if the proposals devised by the herbal smoke inhaling jholawallas are implemented.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:U.S. Options Limited in Pakistan

http://www.cfr.org/publication/22099/us ... istan.html
I cannot imagine how morons like Bruce Riedel assume such high-level positions. Either he is feigning powerless-ness agianst Pakis and obfuscating US policy of mollycoddling TSP as a counterweight to India, or as I said he is clueless. He advocates more arms; does he really think TSP will use those arms to go after Faisal Shezaad types? And who is that lifafa side-kick of his, Jayshree somthing?
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Avinash R wrote: Answers are simple onlee.

all kashmirs residing in India will have to be deported back to j&k. And if any kashmir wants to enter any of the states in the Indian Union he will have to apply for a visa. People like faisal will become ineligible to apply for indian govt posts.

I think kashmiris in India will love this new development. They get to live with "brothers" who eat their apples but wont pay for them.

I forsee a exploding and super bright prospects for kashmir if the proposals devised by the herbal smoke inhaling jholawallas are implemented.
That would hand J&K to TSP on a silver platter.
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Not attempting a discussion on cricket per se, but given the sorry state TSP is in, could TSP have survived a Michael Hussey type assault demolishing their H&D so profusely at the T-20 WC, had the pummeling been from an SDRE like Dhoni or Yuvaraj (I know this is only theoretical :-))? My feeling is that the sense of humilation would have been so deep that there would have been some amount of street riots, or at least an LET assualt on India to regain some H&D.
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ramana wrote:Check out the name of the prosecutor in Chile case.
Chief state prosecutor Sabas Chahuan said he saw a solid case, but did not say what type of crime he believed had been committed. Chahuan said he had information that he was unable to disclose.

"I think that a crime has been committed here. There are several lines of investigation, and there will be a concrete outcome," Chahuan told reporters. "There are things I cannot say because it would interfere with the investigation."

"He does not have any prior criminal record in Chile, and benefits from presumption of innocence, but the prosecutor's office thinks that he has a degree of responsibility."

Khan is scheduled to appear before a judge on Sunday, at which time he will be charged or set free. Chahuan did not provide details about Sunday's proceedings.

Police on Thursday searched the central Santiago residence of a suspected associate looking for evidence, and carried away CDs, a briefcase and a diary, officials said.

A senior State Department official said on Tuesday that Khan, a student who had been in Chile for four months, was invited to the embassy so officials could notify him that his visa for the United States was being revoked.

The U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he was not aware of any link between Khan and the Pakistani-American accused of trying to bomb New York's Times Square on May 1.

Khan has denied any wrongdoing and instead criticized the United States.

"I have nothing to do with bombs. I have nothing to do with terrorists. I don't have a beard," :rotfl: :rotfl: Khan told reporters on Tuesday evening. "They (the United States) just want to cover up their shame and guilt for what they have done or are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan."
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ramana wrote:Check out the name of the prosecutor in Chile case.
:rotfl: yeevil yindoo conspiracy wonlee.... OMG I love it
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ramana wrote: ...
"I have nothing to do with bombs. I have nothing to do with terrorists. I don't have a beard," Khan told reporters on Tuesday evening. "They (the United States) just want to cover up their shame and guilt for what they have done or are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan."
That's the key statement showing is mindset. There is a probability he is some kind of activist. No wonder US wanted to revoke his visa.
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This is superb ad (and most probabaly red line is doctored) that is spreading US websites since last few days. Pls help the cause to spread the word..

The dn'd forums members are too scared to discuss it; and I was afaird that it might have been removed from all possible sources. But our raw agent Ahmed Querish again helps us for this noble cause. Here you go.

http://aq-lounge.blogspot.com/2010/05/r ... -york.html

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Anujan wrote:The Pakistaniyat will hit the fan latest by June when the rains start.
You mean "Inner Pa'astan will hit the fan....."
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NikhilB wrote:(and most probabaly red line is doctored)
I see similar notices everyday when I travel by train to Manhattan by MetroNorth or in the subway. Today the line may be doctored, tomorrow it would have evolved into reality. It will become the buzz word or the bye word (akin to "Shiite Happens") during the Iran crisis. Also, please notice that the first line says "If you see something" and not "if you see someone" with a photo of a TFTA. So, pakis have evolved into "something". Ahh Nirvana!
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kenop wrote:Chile terror lawyer predicts case will be dropped
"He would have to be a very bad terrorist to enter the embassy with traces of explosive material," Ambassador Burhanul Islam said.

So, there are three levels of terrorists? Terrorist, Bad Terrorist and Paki terrorist.
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Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to Indonesia is upset with an article calling on Pakistan to speedily convict the co-conspirators of Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist Ajmal Kasab :
Saturday, May 15, 2010 14:27 PM

Letters: Pakistan Embassy responds

The Jakarta Post of May 9 published a Singapore-based report entitled "Next move is Pakistan's". The report talks about the latest meeting between the prime ministers of Pakistan and India in the Bhutan capital Thimphu on the eve of the SAARC Summit.

The report presumes that the Indian home minister was right in calling the verdict of the Mumbai court a "lesson to Pakistan to stop exporting terror to us". Hence "the ball now is in Pakistan's court". I am really surprised by the audacious demand of The Straits Times to secure a speedy conviction of the alleged co-conspirators as "a proof to India and the world of its sincerity about wanting to control terror".

First, I would like to point out that the judicial system in Pakistan does not work under political leadership. It is independent and free from state control. Second, the Indian government has been, time and again, asked to provide additional information, by sharing the investigation statements of the culprit (Ajmal Kasab), so that the legal process against the alleged co-terrorists can proceed to trial. Last, Pakistan has done enough and this fact should be acknowledged by the international community.

We are prepared to do more, provided we are assisted, in tracking down illusive terrorists and their cohorts. We need technology, intelligence sharing and co-operation to combat terrorists. Mere accusation does not serve the purpose. ………………………

Jakarta Post
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Irfan Husain Op-ed
Heart of darkness
In other words, how would you define a paki?
When Faisal Shahzad carried out his botched attack recently, he wasn’t just trying to kill and maim as many innocent people as possible, he was lashing out against the country where he had studied, got married and made a comfortable life for his family.
So much for the theory that education can make young Muslims reject terrorism (can't alter the genes, my friend).
One does not innocently acquire gunpowder traces under normal circumstances (Unless you are a paki).
While our default reaction is one of denial, the fact is that in many cases of terrorism abroad, there is an element of a Pakistani connection (an element of smell). Even when the terrorists are not themselves Pakistani citizens, they have visited training camps to obtain training, or have been brainwashed in one of our many madressahs.
Voices such as Zaid Hamid’s are provided a powerful platform like television to spout his violent brand of Islam (which other type is there?) where unsophisticated viewers lap up his vision. No anchor or regulator stops him — and others of his ilk — in mid-flow.
School curricula have been replete with hateful stereotypes of non-Muslims. God (which god?) only knows what our madressahs are teaching their students
Together with the Jaish’s arms, receipts from donors were also found in the mosque (Its a business! What else did you expect, Irfanbhai?).
Often the investigation is botched; in other cases, the judges are either too scared or too sympathetic (not just "sympathetic", "too sympathetic"!!) to the cause of jihad to lock these people up.
Jihad is now too deeply rooted in the country’s psyche to be quickly and painlessly excised.(use the analogy of a band-aid: just rip it off!)
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

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arun wrote:Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to Indonesia:
Pakistan has done enough. We are prepared to do more. :D We need technology.
Pakiness, at its best.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

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This article in this week's TFT, 'Reign in Hell or be Humiliated in Paradise', lays bare the PA propaganda that they drove out the Taliban from Malakand, especially Swat.

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The May 1 suicide blast in Sohrab Khan Chowk in Mingora and the recent spate of target killings have once again left the people of Swat in distress, facing a dismal situation. These events and the frequent curfews cause the innocent citizens of the valley to feel terrified.

The Malakand division, particularly Swat, has a history of violence in the summer. Decades back Sufi Mohammad would emerge from his hibernation in the spring. He would then agitate and even block the main entrance at Malakand Pass. Winter was comparitively peaceful, but no sooner did the warmer weather begin than the Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi would destroy the peace of the whole region, especially of Swat.

It is true that history repeats itself. The first winter after the heavy operation was remarkably peaceful. There were few events and fewer blasts but as soon as the summer arrived the situation took a turn for the worse and a new wave of target killings and blasts began. These new developments have damaged the little hope the people had for this summer. They thought they would see tourists flock back to the valley. The blasts and the rumours that the militants were again gathering their forces to carry out attacks on the security forces and their allies, have shattered the people’s hopes. Many are now heard opting to leave Swat for good before it is too late. They say it is good to reign in hell than to be humiliated in paradise.

In spite of the much trumpeted victory over the miscreants in Swat a lasting peace is still to be achieved.
The insurgency in Swat, and of course elsewhere in Pakistan, can never be categorized as a clash between the ‘haves’ and the ‘have nots’, but this factor has given an impetus to militants. For example, most of the local militants were from the have-nots. Such people are often called Khwar Pakhtun (landless Pakhtuns). In Swat most of the land is owned by the aristocratic class. They have equal rights of ownership of the wealth of the forests as well. People living in the hills usually do not own any land, except for their homes; and most of them are peasants working for the big landlords who live in the fertile plains where they possess large orchards and farms. The landlords and the peasants have many legal feuds pending in the courts. This was perhaps the reason that the demand for Shari’a had got support in Swat.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

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anupmisra wrote:Irfan Husain Op-ed

Heart of darkness
Is not Irfan Husain’s criticism of Jihad an Un-Islamic act of kuffar that is not in keeping with the IEDology of Pakistan?

Meanwhile this portion of the article should put paid to any expectation of our foreign policy establishment that the Courts of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will deliver justice for the victims of the 26/11 Mumbai Islamic Terrorist attack by convicting the co-conspirators of Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist Ajmal Kasab:
Even when some of these terrorists are arrested, they are seldom convicted. Often the investigation is botched; in other cases, the judges are either too scared or too sympathetic to the cause of jihad to lock these people up.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

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Letter writing contest in B'lochistan in full swing

Balochistan schools receive TTP’s (threatening) letters
The letters warned the school managements with the presence of informants among the students :eek:
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