Jagman - if you think these images are better off in the IAF gallery let me know - I will email them to you.
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It isillustrated with some rare pics...These are a few pages from the dairy of pilot who probably has undertaken the
maximum number of actual operational flying missions in the Indian Air Force since
independence...
09 DECEMBER, 1961
The weather was bad in the morning. After a good breakfast at the (Indian
Army) Jat Mess, we went to Flight Office. I was down for the same old Shamrock
and targets on orders of Tiger Control. TOT (time on target) was 1430 hrs. I
reached the target in time and Dushyant‡ was already there. Weather over E-ville
was good. Tiger Control was asking Dushyant to pin-point the post office. I
joined in. After some time, it was pin-pointed, and Dush went in for the attack. I
followed him. I was flying “898” —- a good aircraft. I gave a fairly long burst on
the building. Even as I was firing, I felt it a great waste: what could the 20mm do
against a concrete building? All the
same, I completed the attack before
pulling out.
But in the next attack, I decided to
concentrate on the two aerials on top
of the building —- transmitters, it
appeared. Once in the attack, I put the
sight on a small grove of trees —-
there was bound to be something
worthwhile hidden there. With the
trigger pressed, as I came closer, I let the sight ride up to the transmitters. I could literally see the bullets hitting the
transmitters.
I eased the pressure on the trigger with a satisfied feeling. And pulled out.
Bang! .... Crash!!
I heard a loud thud and something in front of my eyes appeared to be shattering.
Suddenly, I realised that a bullet from ground fire had hit the left side
of the windscreen. There was a big hole on the port side, and a smaller one on
the starboard side. Pieces of Perspex was all over, flying virtually into my face.
There was the roaring like surf in the cockpit: as if a great dam had burst. But
the aircraft was still responding: and through the noise of the cockpit I could
hear —- or rather feel – both engines whining away placidly, stoically. So it
couldn’t be all that bad I thought. I mentally thanked Rolls Royce.
...
...
In 1990, ...
When he went to meet Indian premier VP Singh, Mr Gates told New Delhi that Pakistan was ready to close training camps and that the possibility of nuclear war had not been mentioned during talks. Without the knowledge of the government ministers, chief of the Indian Air Force sent one of his MiG-29 planes over Chagai and Kahuta on a reconnaissance mission. This went undetected by Pakistan but the US feared this could have easily been seen as the calm before the storm.
...
I guess one learns something new every day.Jagan wrote:He is the brother of Air Cmde Jasjit Singh of IDSA CAPS fame.![]()
Anyways what is interesting for me are the claims for siachenglacierDespite this handicap anti-aircraft units were employed judicially and fought with gallantry, according to an Indian web site (http://www.Bharat-Rakshak.com/IAF/Histo ... s1971.html). 48% losses were caused by ground fire compared to 30% air to air combat losses.
Deployment at Siachin
From October 1995 to June 1997 total of 17 Indian helicopters were destroyed out of which 4 are confirm hits.
Well, here is some more info from BRJagan wrote:Nice. Heard some vague stories earlier. First time I am seeing some "concrete" info.
Not sure about the first one, but definitely the Atlantic one is inaccurate since the MiG fired a R-60 from the intruder's six, not guns from starboard as the painting suggests.
If the country's army continues to tell untruths to its people - that too on live television... you cant blame its people for living in denial:On 27 May 1999, Gunner Sepoy Shafaqat Ali commanded by Capt. Faheem Tipu, Pakistan Army Air Defence shot down an IAF MiG-27ML using an ANZA-II SAM. The IAF fighter (Serial No. 1135), was flown by Flt. Lt. K. Nachiketa of No. 9 Squadron, IAF pilot who ejected and was taken prisoner. The IAF fighter was shot down after intruding into Pakistan airspace at 11:15 a.m. (PST) near Marol-Hamzi Ghund, Pakistan. Aircraft intruded into Pakistan airspace twice - it first marked a Pakistani position on the LoC with smoke bombs and then came in for a rocketing and strafing attack on the same post. It was shot down during the second attack as it exited. Wreckage fell on the Indian side of the LoC. IAF Pilot captured and made POW. Released on 4 June 1999.
Also on 27 May 1999, Naik Talib Hussain Basharat commanded by Capt. Faheem Tipu of the Pakistan Army Air Defence shot down an IAF MiG-21 using an ANZA-II SAM. The IAF fighter (Serial No. C1539) was flown by Sqn. Ldr. Ajay Ahuja of No. 17 Squadron, IAF, who was killed. The IAF fighter was shot down after intruding into Pakistan airspace at 11:35 a.m. (PST) near Marol-Hamzi Ghund, Pakistan. Aircraft was one of two IAF MiG-21s which targeted and then came in for a rocketing attack on a Pakistani post on the LoC. It was shot down while engaged in the attack at a height of 1,500 metres from ground level. Wreckage fell 10-12 kilometres inside Pakistan. Body of IAF pilot handed over to India on 29 May 1999.
On 28 May 1999, Lance Havaldar Muhammad Kamal of the Pakistan Army Air Defence shot down an IAF Mil Mi-17 Helicopter using a Stinger SAM. The crew of the IAF helicopter comprising of Flt. Lt. S. Mulihan, (Pilot); Sqn. Ldr. Rajiv Pundir (Co-pilot); Sgt. P.V.N.R. Prasad (Flt. Gunner); Sgt. Raj Kishore Sahu (Flt. Engineer) of No. 152 Helicopter Unit, IAF were all killed. The IAF helicopter was shot down after intruding into Pakistan airspace and rocketing Pakistani positions on the LoC in the Mushkoh-Drass sector. The gunship was shot down as it exited after carrying out the rocketing attack. Wreckage fell inside Indian-held Kashmir.
The point is the western media also follows their version. That is the real mystery and also danger for India.Aditya G wrote:Pakistan Army has claimed the serial number of Nachiketa's MiG-27ML as 1135. Perhaps they should have checked the series before claiming one, as the air force has assigned them a 3-digit serial number (TSxxx)! Also, unlike A/L Ahuja MiG-21 they have also never shown the wreckage.
If the country's army continues to tell untruths to its people - that too on live television... you cant blame its people for living in denial:
Ofcourse this was stated by Air Marshal Menon in his Kargil article earlier.Aditya G wrote:Wreckage fell on the Indian side of the LoC.
The No 2's aircraft flamed out immediately after weapon release and the pilot had to eject prior to his aircraft impacting with a mountain side. During parachute descent he drifted across the LoC, was taken as POW by the Pakistani forces and was returned to India on June 3, 1999.
On other hand we dont have any concrete info that Anza missiles were used.Lt Gen Mehmud assured us that air support was not envisaged and that his forces could take care of enemy aircraft, if they intervened. “I have Stingers on every peak,” he announced.
That pilot's name was Sikand or something similar. What's the actual story behind that incident? I wonder what it take to hire someone to blow up that display in k'rachi? By the way, I too clearly remember those nightly drills of black outs and sirens while growing up as a pre-teen in Chanakya Puri (Satya Marg governments officers' flats) in New Delhi.sanjeevpunj wrote:
Folland Gnat IE 1083 is on display at the PAF Museum Karachi. This aircraft was retained as a war trophy after the Indian pilot forcelanded at a Pakistani Airfield by mistake during the 1965 India Pakistan War.
Found another image of the same aircraft, as it lands in Pasrur,Pakistan.anupmisra wrote: That pilot's name was Sikand or something similar. What's the actual story behind that incident? I wonder what it take to hire someone to blow up that display in k'rachi? By the way, I too clearly remember those nightly drills of black outs and sirens while growing up as a pre-teen in Chanakya Puri (Satya Marg governments officers' flats) in New Delhi.
Hmm yes Jagan. I see what you mean. Thanks for posting.Jagan wrote: There are a couple of nice suprises in there if you know where/what to look for..
it was proven at the time i think. pushpinder chopra's book also mentions the jordanian F104's as being shot downramana wrote:Jordan always used to deny they sent their aircraft to TSP in 1965 and 1971. Looks like they lost a couple!
The file is a pdf that I will send separately to Jagan to put up on BR.This fantastic story needs to be put out on Bharat Rakshak. I do not know who the author is but I have a suspicion !