The Red Menace

[Avinash R]

PC asks states to build local intelligence network
New Delhi, August 19, 2009

As security forces continue to battle Naxals in West Bengal’s Lalgarh district, Union Home Minister P Chidambaram has told Naxal-affected states to focus on building local intelligence network to enable focused operations in Maoist strongholds.

The home minister — who succeeded in building a political consensus around his strategy to tackle Naxals at Monday’s chief ministers conference — referred to the long-drawn anti-Naxal operation in Lalgarh and said in future operations, security forces should ensure that the Naxals are not able to flee from the targeted areas.

“There was a consensus at the meeting on the strategy that needs to be adopted for fighting Naxalism,” a home ministry spokesman said on Tuesday.

West Bengal — the only Naxal-affected state that had not sent any political representative to the conference — however, conveyed that the state government was on board.

Home Ministry officials said all states concerned had, by and large, agreed to place the joint operations, to be launched later this year, in the hands of an inspector general of police/additional director general level officer of the para-military forces.

“This,” a home ministry official said, “would ensure that the operations were not jeopardised due to ego clashes between police officers from different states.” For now, the home ministry is trying to cobble up a substantial number of security personnel, drawn from different para-military forces, to put together a sizeable task force.

Signalling the Centre’s intent to act against the Naxals, Chidambaram outlined areas of concern that the states needed to address.

For one, Chidambaram emphasised strengthening rural policing by filling up vacancies, fortifying police stations and developing the capacity in the state police to generate local intelligence.

The home minister emphasised that while the Intelligence Bureau was on its job, the nature of intelligence that was churned up at the national level was different. If the forces were to conduct surgical operations, an official said, there were limits to how much the forces could depend on satellite imagery and technical intelligence.



Jail security in Bihar tightened after alert on Maoists
Patna, November 12, 2009

Security around 12 jails in Bihar has been tightened in view of intelligence reports that Naxalites are planning to carry out a major operation on the pattern of the Jehanabad jailbreak in November 2005.

“We have received intelligence inputs about Maoists’ plan to carry out a major attack on Bihar jails in November,” said a senior police officer posted at the state police headquarters.

He said SPs of about a dozen districts had been asked to intensify patrolling around jails in which hard-boiled Naxal leaders were lodged. “Additional police personnel had been deployed in these jails as a precautionary measure,” he added.

A Home department official said that a close watch was being kept on some prisoners booked in cases related to Naxal violence. Besides, CCTVs have been installed at the entrance of some important jails to watch activities of visitors to the jail.

“As a precautionary measure, instructions are being issued to jail superintendents concerned to shift hardened Naxals to different wards and if required to other jails,” he said, adding that the intelligence wing was also being strengthened.

Sources said that the Naxalites held a secret meeting at a village in Jehanabad district recently to chalk out a strategy to carry out a major operations. A repeat of the Jehanabad jailbreak was aimed at emboldening the lower rung cadre.

“The Maoists planned to attack Gaurichak police station in Patna rural to divert the attention of the police. The Beur Central Jail, which at present has more than a dozen hard-boiled Naxal leaders, is a target of the Maoists,” he said.

“As the Beur jail is located in a densely populated area and also close to the National Highway, it is easy for Maoists to carry out such an operation,” said the police official. “The recovery of a huge quantity of explosives, arms and ammunition over the last several days in the State capital indicates the nefarious design of Maoists,” he added.

Meanwhile, the Bihar police have sought 12 additional battalions of the Central Para-military Police Force (CPMF) to carry out a special drive against Naxals. At present, the state has 23 companies of the CPMF.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 75613.aspx


Stray dog, not watchdog, guards Bengal’s border

Cupan (Jamboni), Nov. 11: When the Bengal government says it wants to step up vigil along the state’s borders, it possibly means leaving checkposts to stray dogs.

That was the only form of life visible on a visit to the post through which the Maoist guerrillas had slipped into Jhar-khand after shooting dead four paramilitary personnel in Jamboni on Sunday .

Villagers saw the suspec-ted assailants zoom away on motorcycles under a bamboo post half-lowered across the metalled road.

Housewife Asha Tudu said she saw guns on their should-ers when the two-wheelers slowed down because of potholes ahead of what should have been the checkpost. “There were eight bikes and they seemed to be in a hurry,” said Asha, 24.

On the other side of the bamboo post is Jharkhand, the state Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee accuses of providing a safe haven to the guerrillas.

But the only time Asha, a resident of border village Cupan, has seen police at the checkpost set up with the promise of round-the-clock vigil is when it was built, after the security forces moved into Lalgarh amid fanfare in June.

“About 50 policemen were there that day. And that was it,” the woman said.

The inspector in charge of Jamboni police station threw up his hands in a gesture of helplessness. He said it was impossible to man such border posts with the strength his station had.

“It is true that I’m responsible for manning it. But I have only 36 policemen at the police station and I have to take care of 326.5sqkm covering 338 villages under 10 gram panchayats. How can I deploy my men at the border post?” Lokeman Hussain asked.

A senior West Midnapore police officer appeared to reject the officer’s excuse. “The local police station should have deployed at least two personnel there round the clock. Had its officers done that, the Maoists guerrillas could not have come on motorcycles, killed four EFR personnel and left so easily.”

Policing in the neighbouring state is equally lax. The residents of Dumuria, in Jharkhand, said the police were a rare sight in the area.

“There is hardly any patrolling during the day. After sunset, I can assure you there is nothing at all,” said Manoj Jana, a farmhand in his 30s.

“We live at their (Maoists’) mercy. Now it appears that the Maoists are our protectors, not the police,” he added.

The villagers here call the guerrillas Bonparty (jungle party).

At the Porihati bazaar near the border, Jana said they saw the Bonparty often. “They come here to collect biscuit packets, medicines, vegetables and mustard oil. We know all this, but the police don’t.”

The police admit that their intelligence network has coll-apsed. “We know they (the Maoists) come, roam freely and leave the area, but we can’t enter the villages deep inside the forests because we find ourselves outnumbered,” said a Jamboni officer.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1091112/j ... 731290.jsp


Yechury has close links with Maoists: Mamata
Thu, Nov 12 02:25 PM

New Delhi, Nov 12 (IANS) All leaders of the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M), particularly its politburo member Sitaram Yechury, have a close association with Maoists, Trinamool Congress chief and Railway Minister Mamata Banerjee has alleged.

It was because of Yechury's proximity to top Maoist leaders in Nepal that the first United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government sent him as envoy to the country after the monarchy was established, Banerjee told reporters Wednesday evening.

She was speaking on the sidelines of a function at party colleague Mukul Roy's residence to mark the victory of the Trinamool Congress in assembly by-elections in West Bengal.

Attacking the Maoists and the Marxists for the increasing violence in West Bengal, Banerjee countered allegations from the CPI-M and said her party did not have any association with Maoist leader Kishenji.

'Who is this Kishenji?' Banerjee asked and added that her party had never believed in the ideology of either Marxism and Maoism.

'We are from the Congress background. We believe in the teachings of Mahatmaji (Mahatma Gandhi) and Netaji (Subhas Chandra Bose).'

She said West Bengal Home Secretary Ardhendu Sen had clearly stated that there was no evidence to prove that the Trinamool Congress had any Maoist link.

[Sachin]

West Bengal — the only Naxal-affected state that had not sent any political representative to the conference — however, conveyed that the state government was on board.

Hope this is not a ploy of the commies to later say that, politically they were against such offensive and did not attend the meeting and kept away from the policy adopted by the central govt. .

“We have received intelligence inputs about Maoists’ plan to carry out a major attack on Bihar jails in November,” said a senior police officer posted at the state police headquarters.

Thinking aloud, can these prisoners be moved to a different jail in say Western or Southern India, where Maoists will be beaten to pulp if they try their tricks? If I am not mistaken British had employed this tactic in the days of 'The Raj'. Perhaps 'court attendance' etc. can be done by video conferencing.

[Hari Seldon]

I do hope people are using the word eliminate as in "eliminating their influence" and not something else.

Of course, what a horrible thought! Eliminating overgroundus?? Nah. I'd rather have overgroundu sponors spend time, money, attn and effort propping up the flailing overgroundu network than the maogandu hordes.

As for the pimtellectuals, I would rather use the quaint term 'neutralize'. So yup, the jingo in moi wants Dilli to neutralize the overgroundus. And also neuter them while at it so they don't sprout more water hyacinth that swallows up all the oxygen. {Intellectually neuter-alize, I mean. But of course you knew that didn't you?}

[Avinash R]

And also neuter them while at it so they don't sprout more water hyacinth that swallows up all the oxygen.

Not to worry, the self-destructive mentality of maoists is already at work.

Vasectomies, violence inside India's Maoist camps

A quick exchange of guns and a pledge to undertake a vasectomy is customary for India's Maoist "comrades" when they wed in their isolated forest hideouts.

More Here : http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091110/wl ... oistrebels

[Avinash R]

West Bengal — the only Naxal-affected state that had not sent any political representative to the conference — however, conveyed that the state government was on board.

Hope this is not a ploy of the commies to later say that, politically they were against such offensive and did not attend the meeting and kept away from the policy adopted by the central govt. .

Edited my previous post and added the news of mamata make allegations of CPM having links with maoists.

That should clear up why CPM wont take part in the conference.

They want to ride in two boats at the same time. If CPMF clear out WB of maoists then CPM will spin this as victory of their party "line" else they open talks with maoists to counter Trinamool.

[Pranay]

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/episod ... nts/144236

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The Leonard Lopate Show / November 12, 2009 / Underreported: India's Maoist Insurgency
Underreported: India's Maoist Insurgency
Thursday, November 12, 2009
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A group of Maoist rebels—also known as the Naxalite insurgency—has taken a violent foothold in 20 of India’s provinces. The group has burned schools, killed more than 900 security officers, and, in at least one province, detonated more than 1,000 improvised explosive devices over the past five years. The Indian government is preparing to send thousands of soldiers into the Maoists strongholds, which also happen to be some of the most impoverished and economically underdeveloped parts of India. We’ll speak with Brad Adams, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch’s Asia Division, in India.

[AjayKK]

Some overgroundus

CONCERN (a student body in the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore), a convention in IISc, Bangalore on 7th November titled "The War Within: The Maoists, The Tribals and The State".

Guha was speaking at the seminar. He pointed out that the tribals were the most dispossessed people in the history of India.

Operation Green Hunt, will further deteriorate the situation, he said.

The Maoists, Guha said, are a bunch of bandits, thugs and nothing else.

Editorial mistake : The Maoist Guha said, (we) are a bunch of bandits, thugs and nothing else.

Citing Nepalese maoist leader Prachanda, Guha said, the Maoists of India, should heed to Prachanda’s advise, and participate in a multi-party democracy.

Himanshu Kumar of Vanwasi Chetna Ashram (VCA), speaking on the occasion said that, the real intention of the government behind operation 'green hunt' is to lay the land for the industrialists as a part of their MOU’s.

Himanhsu said, for this specific reason, the government created the vigilante group Salwa Judum, which has been `sanitising’ the area, by displacing tribals and putting them in road side refugee camps. He said, Salwa Judum has a huge lists of human rights issues and are often seen killing, torturing and even raping adivasi men and women, with the tacit approval of the state.

"Gandhian" Himanhsu forgot to mention the number "7,00,000" Salwa Judum
After this "Gandhian" Himanhsu gave interviews, one of them to Jyoti Punwani

How did you rehabilitate the villages?

As a Gandhian, I could not just stand by and watch when Adivasis who had fled their village because of Salwa Judum, were beaten up for having returned to their village to depose before the NHRC. I decided to set up camp in that village. If the Salwa Judum forces came to burn it, they would have to burn me first. We persuaded the villagers to come back. They had lost everything seeds, cattle because whenever they tried to return, the Salwa Judum forces hounded them into camps and burnt their village. We arranged for everything, helped them plough their land. Slowly others began returning. Peace reigned in those villages till last month when Operation Green Hunt began.

The Supreme Court has directed the government to rehabilitate the tribals. If the government is not willing, let me do it. I can bring peace in a week. You withdraw your forces and provide the amenities that were stopped after Salwa Judum started: doctors, schools, aanganwadis.

Lahoree logic at work.

Will the Maoists allow these to run?

Medical officers tell me ruefully that it's the CRPF that beat up their doctors who go into the jungle to treat patients. They beat up teachers too. They are furious that these people can travel safely inside the jungle, while they get blown up. I pointed out that doctors and teachers don't go there with weapons like the CRPF does! Naxalites have said they will not interfere with my rehabilitation work because i have no political ambitions.

Editorial mistake : Naxalites have said they will not interfere with my rehabilitation work because i am in touch with them and am their supporter

Is a dialogue possible?

What stops the government from talking to the Adivasis? You are a democratically elected government, find out what your people want. As for the Maoists, how can the Centre tell them to stop violence without stopping it first? Every day, your forces demand liquor, chickens, women... they behead a child in front of his grandfather, rape Adivasi women at will... And when the Adivasi picks up a lathi, they cry foul. Why are the forces there in Bastar? The Maoists weren't marching into Delhi. Nor did the Adivasis plead for protection from them. When the police, the administration, the judiciary has turned against the Adivasis, the Maoists have stood by them. The forces are there only to hunt the tribals from their land, so that the state can hand it over to corporates. The state has no desire for peace and is too arrogant to acknowledge its crimes. We have tried to file 1,000 FIRs against the police; not one has been registered.

The Maoists blow up schools and POs as these are NREGA payout centres, forcing the vanvasis to misery. And making them open to exploitation by the Maoists. So much for "standing by them"

[Singha]

out look mag claims tatas and essar were the venture financiers for salwa judum - to clear tracts where minerals are below ground but has occupied villages on top. salwa judum's purpose was a conspiracy to clear these tracts for the mining machinery to move in.

[Rahul Mehta]

Rahul Mehta I think that those who want to "eliminate" want to physically eliminate them - make them disappear or encountered. If not I would request the pro-elimination people to clarify. So let me ask the elimination-waadies : when you talk about elimination of overground naxal sympathizers like A Roy etc, you mean reducing influence in citizens or do you mean their arrest, imprisonment, encounter or "disappearing"?

Muppalla: These questions should not be asked or replied in an open forum. Nobody can write/suggest openly to encounter or kill so and so if not from TSP. You are un-necessarily putting folks into discomfort. It is for the reader to interpret whatever he/she wants. Why should we define. Whether they are physically eleminated or their existance is as good as dead it is all same result . What is the pont in asking such questions?

If a person is against physical liquidation (eg myself), he would not be uncomfortable at all,. He would boldly say that he opposes encounters and supports non-violent ways only. And a pro-encounter who is a habitual liar will also say the same. The only person who may feel uncomfortable will be a pro-encounter person, who doesn't want to speak lies.

I am not a Forum Rakshak or "Forum Decorum Rakshak". I dont mind at all if people openly call for encounter of A Roy type people. But given that Forum Rakshaks want a decorum, no BRites will do so. But the hush hush voice is loud and clear --- many people do want encounter of ARoy type non-violent naxals.

Now I am NOT against such posts --- I am dead against this very idea. This very idea of encountering non-violent verbal-only naxals is counter productive. If we citizens at all allow policemen to encounter verbal-only naxals like ARoy, the policemen will grab this opportunity to kill people for money. And then soon, for every one "criminal" they kill, twenty 100% innocents will die. eg in Gujarat in early 1990s, policemen had imprisoned 17000 farmers under TADA !! Even TADA-happy IPS like KPS Gill got shocked and expressed concerned. Now all these arrests were only to collect bribes. God forbid, if we legitimize encounters, what will policemen do next is anybody's guess.

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Not to worry, the self-destructive mentality of maoists is already at work.

Vasectomies, violence inside India's Maoist camps. A quick exchange of guns and a pledge to undertake a vasectomy is customary for India's Maoist "comrades" when they wed in their isolated forest hideouts. More Here : http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091110/wl ... oistrebels

If this is true, we better reduce poverty ASAP. Because a vasectomized male is a lethal walking machine as he is LESS afraid to die compared to a policeman, who has kids and does want to live.

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As days pass, those who give "panch varshiya yojana ", "das varshiya yojana " and "pachas varshiya yojana " (5 year plan, 10 year plan and 50 year plan) to reduce poverty are only taking India into a deeper mess. Maoists have external funding which will never dry up. They will keep getting weapons from China, and Chinese factories arent going to stop any time sooner. The only thing we cal block is the supply of men they are getting. How? We reduce poverty. If we reduce poverty, Maoists will get less men to work for them, and their strength reduces. So what time is it? It is time for a "3 months plan" to reduce poverty and dump elegant looking 5 year, 10 year and 50 year plans. Otherwise we are going to explode all over.

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out look mag claims tatas and essar were the venture financiers for salwa judum - to clear tracts where minerals are below ground but has occupied villages on top. salwa judum's purpose was a conspiracy to clear these tracts for the mining machinery to move in.

Outlook belongs to Raheja and so inter-business-house rivalry does result into addition of spices. And basically, Outlook and Fro0ntLine print pro-naxal articles hoping that GoI would give their masters a slice in mining business. But nevertheless, it is fact that SJ were lackeys of Congress/BJP, and nothing suprising if they were also lackeys of elitemen.

[Rahul M]

I think that those who want to "eliminate" want to physically eliminate them - make them disappear or encountered. If not I would request the pro-elimination people to clarify. So let me ask the elimination-waadies : when you talk about elimination of overground naxal sympathizers like A Roy etc, you mean reducing influence in citizens or do you mean their arrest, imprisonment, encounter or "disappearing"?

Let me make this VERY clear, BRF DOES NOT and WILL NOT tolerate calls for physical violence against any citizen of India barring what the law enforcement authorities do as part of the accepted rules of engagement.
Advocating anything beyond that is a surefire way to earn a ban on BR.
Rahul.

[Avinash R]

Not to worry, the self-destructive mentality of maoists is already at work.

Vasectomies, violence inside India's Maoist camps. A quick exchange of guns and a pledge to undertake a vasectomy is customary for India's Maoist "comrades" when they wed in their isolated forest hideouts. More Here : http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091110/wl ... oistrebels

If this is true, we better reduce poverty ASAP. Because a vasectomized male is a lethal walking machine as he is LESS afraid to die compared to a policeman, who has kids and does want to live.

If that is your opinion then along with right to anarchy with guns you should also advocate vasectomy to all members of your party. This is a surefire way of gaining more "lethal" party members and as party president you can be the first one to be vasectomised and gain their enduring respect. I hope you put this on your website and print an TOI ad to give this brillant idea of yours wide publicity.

But nevertheless, it is fact that SJ were lackeys of Congress/BJP, and nothing suprising if they were also lackeys of elitemen.

I have made this to clear to rahul mehta many times with proof that salwa judum are NOT Congress/BJP lackeys, but still he continues to insult these indians who took up arms to protect their home and family.

These people cant come here on BR and refute the false allegations that rahul mehta purposely makes to tarnish their image.

rahul mehta has a history of making such ridiculous allegations again and again against all judges/netas/elitemen without proof.

People on BR take such posts of his lightheartedly but this is a serious matter when he insults the salwa judum.

I would request mods to take a serious note of rahul mehta behaviour towards the salwa judum.

And to rahul mehta, i know there are many skeletons hidden in your cupboard, if you continue making false allegations those cupboards would have to be examined to reveal your past. So dont post lies again. Ok take care.

[Rudradev]

out look mag claims tatas and essar were the venture financiers for salwa judum - to clear tracts where minerals are below ground but has occupied villages on top. salwa judum's purpose was a conspiracy to clear these tracts for the mining machinery to move in.

Sounds like a typical ARoy/Jyoti Punwani type conspiracy theory to me.

If the Tatas had the resources and ability to finance Salwa Judum as a private army to do these kinds of dirty work, surely they would have the resources and ability to ensure that Salwa Judum survived all the slander and political pressure that was brought against it, and prevailed eventually against the Naxals.

Instead we see the mining conglomerates working out a live-and-let-live equation with the Naxals, paying them bribes to leave the mining and transport operations unmolested, and those bribes very likely end up paying for weapons used in the Naxal war against the Indian state.

The truth is, in a country like India, business interests will seek the path of least resistance that allows them to manage their bottom line. If the Naxals rule the roost while the GOI is least bothered about Naxals but acting determinedly to curtail the Salwa Judum, then it is the Naxals whom the corporations will deal with.

[Rahul M]

agree with RD, outlook is simply repeating the naxal line that (in their eyes) justify their actions.

[Jarita]

agree with RD, outlook is simply repeating the naxal line that (in their eyes) justify their actions.

Why is it so inconceivable? Please look at militias in congo. They represent diverse interests and that is exactly the objective - to clear land for large corporations.
http://www.friendsofthecongo.org/commen ... alties.php
We need to stop this rape of our resources and forests ( barely have any) by our large corporations. Tata is whitewashed as very clean but Ratan Tata is not of the same proclivity as the earlier more service oriented Tatas.
Example
Tata has bought rights to MDI aircar in 2007. Since then the technology is being allowed to wither away. They claim that the technology is not ready (it was ready before the technology was bought) but in reality it is in competition with existing vehicles and oil interests. This is exactly the cannibalization the US auto industry did with the Los Angeles subway in the 60's and several other means of public transportation in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed-air_car

[Rahul M]

while it may not be inconceivable, it is not true.

first of all, India is not congo. I know plunder of our natural resources happen but tainting the slwa judum with those brushes (which is after all the standard maoist line used to justify public executions and worse) amounts to insulting a group of people fighting for their rights WITHOUT using a bunch of city-bred intellectuals to do the thinking for them.

do the corps. have an interest in the natural resources ? of course ! is that a crime ? no, it is a legitimate interest. OTOH, it is the govt's job to ensure that they don't get an opportunity to exploit the people by creating appropriate laws and enforcing them strongly.
do they need to fund SJ ? no, the state govts can see clearly it is in their interests to support a spontaneous people's resistance movement and fund them out of their own volition.

lastly, do you think if there was even an iota of evidence to support the maoist allegations we wouldn't have witnessed a deluge of such articles in the media by now ? frankly, a large co-ordinated operation would be impossible to hide in this country.

[Jarita]

lastly, do you think if there was even an iota of evidence to support the maoist allegations we wouldn't have witnessed a deluge of such articles in the media by now ? frankly, a large co-ordinated operation would be impossible to hide in this country.

A large coordinated operation would not be hard to orchestrate in India with media assist. The interests of corporations and teh owners of the media in India are well aligned. Also, the so called Maoists are being funded not just by China but so called capitalist countries.
For some reason Indians believe that Maoist = anti western/anti corp. This is simply not true. Maoists are being used both in Nepal and india tofurther western interests. In fact I may dare say Maoists were used by the west in China too to destroy the old regime.
Suzanne Roy is a useful tool for these folks just as the Al Queda was useful to the US. If she starts going against corporate interests too much, the media will just shut her down.
We aare truely sold out and unless we rapidly create alternative information systems we are deep "s^&t"

[Rahul M]

please, there's no need to preach to the choir. all I'll say is that the media may be muzzled or bought off but it's not possible to bind every tongue. but the tongues have no such story...
if anyone would know of such things, the owners of these tongues would be among them.

[Avinash R]

Good move, should also be used to protect schools and less policed villages from maoist terrorists.
Village Defence Committees in Chhattisgarh to curb Maoist menace
Sat, Nov 14 2009
Jagdalpur, November 14(ANI): Chhattisgarh is one of the worst naxal-affected states in India. To curb the increasing Maoist mayhem in the state, the state government plans to form village defence committees.

These committees and officials will be tasked with the responsibility of spreading awareness about the dangers of naxal voilence and what steps need to be taken to counter it.

[Avinash R]

It's interesting that a few people get angry when govt arms tribals to protect their land and their children from maoists.

But there is no anger but a dead silence when the maoists conduct vasectomy on tribals and effectively kill the future generation of tribal children from being born.

When the maoist destroy schools to keep the tribals illiterate so its easy to brainwash them the same angry people cant find their voice to protest this.

And regarding mining on tribal lands, remember minerals are national resources and they belong to all indians. The only issue that needs to redressed are, if the tribals are getting fair compensation for their land or not, have they been properly rehabilitated or not. These are the issues that should be addressed rather than keeping the tribals in state of permanent backwardness by not developing their lands.

And remember the dam over narmada that was delayed for years and crores of rupees were wasted due to ligitation by the same angry activists like medha patkar who became famous, earned some foreign awards, appeared on some TV shows but the losers were the people of india. We lost crores of rupees due to the fake anger of these self-centred people. And we will continue losing people's lives and money if these fake angry people dont mend their ways and stop supporting maoist propaganda.

[Stan_Savljevic]

Spy planes in Maoist fight --- Field trials begin in Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh
http://telegraphindia.com/1091115/jsp/f ... 743166.jsp

[Avinash R]

Waiting for atleast 1 human rights activist, self-appointed gandhian (hint:himanshu kumar) or people's activist to condemn this act of violence.

Maoists blow up under-construction panchayat bhawan in Jharkhand
PTI 15 November 2009, 02:16pm IST

CHAIBASA: An under-construction panchayat bhawan has been blown up by suspected CPI (Maoist) ultras at Dumbuli village in Jharkhand's West Singhbhum district, police superintendent Akhilesh Kumar Jha said today.

Around 30 ultras equipped with fire-arms blew up the building late last night.

The police rushed to the spot and a massive combing operation was launched to track down the culprits, he said.

Earlier, the Maoists had set on fire a crusher plant in Manoharpur and torched three earth movers at Sonua in the district two days ago.

[Pranav]

Often militias are supported by outsiders to prevent the tapping of mineral wealth by corporations that are not under their control.

BTW, the air-car is still not practical - very limited range. Pug-in hybrids are the way to go, and that technology is moving forward (Chevy Volt will be out soon).

Why is it so inconceivable? Please look at militias in congo. They represent diverse interests and that is exactly the objective - to clear land for large corporations.

[Rahul Mehta]

Rahul Mehta: I think that those who want to "eliminate" want to physically eliminate them - make them disappear or encountered. If not I would request the pro-elimination people to clarify. So let me ask the elimination-waadies : when you talk about elimination of overground naxal sympathizers like A Roy etc, you mean reducing influence in citizens or do you mean their arrest, imprisonment, encounter or "disappearing"?

Rahul M: Let me make this VERY clear, BRF DOES NOT and WILL NOT tolerate calls for physical violence against any citizen of India barring what the law enforcement authorities do as part of the accepted rules of engagement. Advocating anything beyond that is a surefire way to earn a ban on BR.

Well, then admins will have to work overtime. Because too many postors here are advocating "elimination" of non-violent people like ARoy. When asked about details, they change the tone, but the choice of words like "elimination" and not using words like "expose them, reduce their influence in minds" etc is a sufficient indicator. I dont know how admins can deal with such covert demands of using violence against ARoy type people. One way can be that every postor should be asked to create a page on BR or orkut with his REAL name, picture etc and ask to post his demands on that page as well. This will ensure that if a person is making covert call violence against ARoy-type people, whole world will know with his name and picture. So at least those who dont have courage to come in public will stop making such calls and burden of admins will reduce.

(Aside : To keep my record clear. I am not advocating any violence against any non-violent, and nor I am advocating violence against policemen, judges etc even the corrupt and atrocious ones. I have only demanded Jury Trials on them and narco tests in public, expulsion/imprisonment of corrupt and their executions. But all this only after full Jury Trials - I did not call for any private violence against anyone.)

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About Salva Judum,

Naxalites and SJ had one thing in common : both supported private violence. SJ later got cover of GoI and so it became "official". But was SJ good for hapless tribals with no political connection? Well, GoI did not allow everyone to keep arms. Only the SJ members were allowed to keep arms. And how were these SJ members chosen? By discretion of local Ministers, MLAs, IPS etc who are all well known for their corruption. So are these MLAs going to pick "good" guys or will they pick their lackeys and their goons? The answer is latter. IOW, the very process in which SJ members were recruited shows that it was nothing but an army of lackeys of local neta, not common hapless tribals with no political connection. Such lackeys will be more interested in victimizing the weak rather than fight the strong. And thats what they did.

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Some newspaper link: Vasectomies, violence inside India's Maoist camps. A quick exchange of guns and a pledge to undertake a vasectomy is customary for India's Maoist "comrades" when they wed in their isolated forest hideouts. More Here : http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091110/wl ... oistrebels

Rahul Mehta: If this is true, we better reduce poverty ASAP. Because a vasectomized male is a lethal walking machine as he is LESS afraid to die compared to a policeman, who has kids and does want to live.

Avinash R:

1. If that is your opinion then along with right to anarchy with guns you should also advocate vasectomy to all members of your party. This is a surefire way of gaining more "lethal" party members and as party president you can be the first one to be vasectomised and gain their enduring respect. I hope you put this on your website and print an TOI ad to give this brillant idea of yours wide publicity.

2. And to rahul mehta, i know there are many skeletons hidden in your cupboard, if you continue making false allegations those cupboards would have to be examined to reveal your past. So dont post lies again. Ok take care.

One more utter nonsense from you.

Replied in neta babu thread.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 44#p773044

About (2) : go ahead and post whatever you want.

[Avinash R]

this is not nearly acceptable.

[V_Raman]

i was watching a program on PBS yday about peru and how their maoist problem was solved. armed offensive aside, the real problem of brining the extra legal entrepreneurs to the legal mainstream is the same challenge we face in india. land titles, availability of credit, cumbersome rules/regulations etc. are some of the major problems. ultimately, one statement in the program was very telling - the law has to make sense, in tune with the social aspirations, and should benefit the citizen if followed. therein lies the real solution for india's rise. the solution is dharmic after all.

[Rahul Mehta]

This is what wikipedia says about Salva Judum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salwa_Judum

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Avinash R, et al,

RM is is not the only one in India who is cursing these lackeys of Congress, BJP and possibly Tata.

(Aside : I NEVER wrote a line in wikipedia and surely not in the SJ page.)

[Rahul M]

RM is is not the only one in India who is cursing these lackeys of Congress, BJP and possibly Tata.

of course not, you are in the exalted company of the maoist murderers who have edited that page.

[Rahul Mehta]

EDITED.

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As per you question AR, pls post it in neta-babsu thread without reference to my father. I will answer it there.
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[Rahul Mehta]

RM is is not the only one in India who is cursing these lackeys of Congress, BJP and possibly Tata.

of course not, you are in the exalted company of the maoist murderers who have edited that page.

Now, I cant speak for any Maoists, but I never ever edited any wiki page till date, and surely never touched this SJ page. If you Google, there are too many pages that speak the same thing, and many pages are from magazines and newspapers. And again, they all can paid to write this.

So how do you suggest we find the truth? The locals are the best persons to tell the truth. How do you propose we know what locals want to say?

[Rahul M]

RM, if you had read that same page before this latest vandalism you would have got a much better picture. the terrorist sympathisers are getting desperate that their veneer of occupying the high moral ground is coming loose. this latest attempt at peddling cheap lies is but a symptom.

[Avinash R]

edited.

[archan]

RahulM,
You are being too soft hearted here. It seems like RM's time on this forum is over and any more lifeline would only hurt the forum.
I swear on my goat, the next time I see him repeat this, he is gone from here forever.

[Stan_Savljevic]

Chidambaram to attend Dantewada public hearing
http://telegraphindia.com/1091117/jsp/f ... 749605.jsp

Central forces touch down --- More forest transit points in Maoist strongholds this time to ensure safety of polling personnel
http://telegraphindia.com/1091117/jsp/j ... 749684.jsp

Rebel attack on BSF camp
http://telegraphindia.com/1091117/jsp/j ... 749592.jsp
Confused by the signals from PC and GoI...

Assam rebel group vows support for Maoists

The National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB), an outlawed group fighting for an independent homeland for the Bodo tribe in Assam, has announced its support to the Maoists. "I would like to greet and congratulate the Maoists who are fighting for their legitimate rights and also extend all help to them in their fight against the ruling cliques," NDFB chairman D.R. Nabla said in a statement e-mailed to IANS.

http://www.newkerala.com/nkfullnews-1-151494.html

[RoyG]

Constable's throat slit, arms chopped by Maoists

17 Nov 2009, 1637 hrs IST

It’s the bloodiest murder by Maoists since the Taliban style killing of inspector Francis Induwar. A police constable was butchered to death, his throat slit and arms chopped off for allegedly being a police informer on Monday (November 16). It is believed that Chabbu Turi, the constable who was hacked to death by 60 armed Maoists at Badaki Hathia village in Munger district of Bihar. Around 60 Maoists raided the village, captured the constable and took him to an isolated place and killed him, the police said.

The constable has been providing the police with tip offs on the Maoist movements and had on Sunday helped arrest four Maoists from the area. A day later he was tracked down and murdered. A poster with a warning that said 'beware police informers' was left next to his body. On November 15, four suspected Maoists were arrested and a large quantity of chemicals and explosive materials meant for making bombs were seized in Bihar's Munger district.

“Three packets, weighing one kg each containing gelatine sticks, one kg potassium chlorate, 145 detonators and a hand grenade were seized from the houses of two hardcore Maoists last night in Banvarsha village,” Deputy Superintendent of Police (Headquarters) Ashok Kumar, told reporters. He said a hundred detonators bore the mark of Gulf Oil Corporation Ltd, Hyderabad and the rest were having the mark of Rajasthan Explosives and Chemicals Ltd, Dholpur. Four Maoists - Ashok Paswan, Manoj Paswan, Tuntun Kumar and Ishwar Sah - were arrested and three others managed to flee, Kumar said.

http://www.timesnow.tv/Constables-throa ... 332308.cms

[nithish]

^ R.I.P

Armed IAF copters for Maoist terrain

The Union home ministry has recommended arming helicopters of the Indian Air Force that are being used in the counter-Maoist operations.

The IAF is using armoured Mi-17 helicopters to transport state and central police forces in Maoist zones. Arming would involve weaponising the Mi-17s with light or medium machine guns. The guns will be manned by the Garud special force, whose main task is to protect the assets of the IAF.

The Union home ministry’s recommendation comes after the Indian Air Force sought the permission of the government to open fire in self-defence.
Air chief marshal Pradeep Vasant Naik disclosed on October 1 that he had sought the permission of the ministry of defence but that “it was really up to the home ministry” because the IAF’s helicopters were being deployed as aid to civil administration.

A senior air headquarters source said here this evening that the IAF was still to get the “rules of engagement” that would govern its role as the Centre and states step up the offensive against Naxalites.
“The CCS (cabinet committee on security) has to clear it. Nobody wants collateral damage,” the source said. The government and the IAF are equally aware that use of lethal air power, even in self-defence, can harm non-combatants.
Air Chief Marshal Naik has said that the IAF will not go “into Rambo-style operations”.
But the IAF’s plea is that its helicopters have been shot at — Sergeant Mustafa Ali was killed — by Maoists firing automatic weapons from the ground.

The IAF has already created a task force headed by a Group Captain to co-ordinate with a multi-agency authority of the Union home ministry that will oversee the counter-Maoist operations across states.
The air headquarters source said IAF helicopters were being deployed because the central paramilitary forces did not have the wherewithal to reach the difficult zones by air.
Of the central troops that are directly involved in the operations, only the Border Security Force has helicopters. But it does not have them in adequate number.

[Sachin]

It is believed that Chabbu Turi, the constable who was hacked to death by 60 armed Maoists at Badaki Hathia village in Munger district of Bihar.

Hope such incidents also raise the resistance of the local police against these armed thugs, the Maoists. In many of the naxalite infested states of yester-years, the police went with a strong resolution to deal with these criminals. The naxalites would stop this dirty trick, if they know that their fate is also going to be some thing similar. In Kerala the naxalites only stopped believing in their idea of 'armed revolution' after they realised that they are not treated err.. quite well in police stations and in the prisons once they are caught.

[Hari Seldon]

Times now reporting:

Maoists derail train in Jharkhand - 3 feared killed.

Rly mamtri Mamta di forced to issue a statement critical of the maoists' violent methods.

Times now also exposing the extortion rackets maoist bigwigs have been running and how those wholclaim to fight for the poor have accrued crores in assets. Wow, Tim,es Now seems to be on a roll. Making up for yrs of neglect of the deadly maoist cancer, surely.

[Rahul M]

http://www.ndtv.com/news/photos/album-d ... 60+injured

Jharkhand: Naxals target train; 1 dead, 60 injured

One person has died and nearly 60 are injured as maoists have struck again by blowing up a railway track in Jharkhand just as a train was passing by.

[Gerard]

India's attack on Maoists troubles European aid body

[Avinash R]

2 security personnel die fighting the maoists
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 257458.cms

"The personnel were going in an anti-landmine vehicle when a landmine blew it up near Lapu village," the Inspector General of Police V Deshmukh said.