Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

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SBajwa wrote:When will this A*H*le be hanged? He has been on death row since 2002

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Omar_Saeed_Sheikh
Interesting fella this Omar Sheikh Saeed. He is probably ISI and was involved in Daniel Pearl's murder. Interestingly the police couldnt find any evidence against him and framed him in a few charges and gave him death penalty in a kangaroo court under american pressure. The charges are totally bogus and made up. That doesnt mean that he is innocent, just that he has such powerful backers that nobody in their right mind wants to investigate and go down the rabbit hole of who did what, lest they end up face down in a gutter like Saleem Shahzad.

Anyway coming back to the original point. Fellow has been awarded the death penalty under trumped up charges. He has appealed. Nobody wants to hear the appeal as he'd be set free since the charges were obviously cooked up. Lets see if they do hang him.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the executions are used for Pakistan to disappear some people...i.e. claim they were executed but take them completely underground.
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But they won't take that risk of Hanging and then have them being found alive by kufr yindoos or amreekis - it will be too much shame shame for them.

Their best way to disappeared peoples is to be blessed by National Bird, or eff solah now.
Even with the national bird, it was sometimes the pak fauj on the ground who would cordon off the area and would release the information about who met their 72.
So iliyas kashmiri, OBL, etc must have met their 72 at least 72 times. OBL was found to be twiddling his thumbs in Jernail Mushy and Kiya-nahi's protection.
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After the festivities in Peshabwar fauji iskool, and the Pakistani blaming India for it, my thoughts go back to the Marriott Hotel bombing.
ISI bombed that hotel to take out the CIA listening post there, blamed it on TTP and India. Marriott hotel's owner himself was saying just recently on that youtube video that the bomb truck was hidden in someone's garage in the green zone overnight, was escorted to the hotel by Isloo bolis / eye ass eye.

What followed Marriott was Mumbai 26/11...
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Meanwhile...
Four more polio cases detected in Pakistan

No doubt saajish by bharat...
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Afghan forces launch operation in Kunar
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ASADABAD: Afghan security forces have launched an operation against militants in an eastern province seen as a rear base for the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) which carried out a school massacre last week, officials said Monday.
Mullah Fazlullah was last located in Kunar...
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Bismillah
No executions to be carried out in Punjab today
Me totally diss-a-ppointed. Already their rejolve ij waning
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At least five people including a doctor of Abbasi Shaheed Hospital were gunned down in different areas of the city on Sunday.
According to police, two brothers were shot dead by unidentified gunmen near a sweets shop in Khokhrapar area of Malir. Two others were also injured in the incident.
The brothers were identified as Tanvir and Tauseef. Tension prevailed in the area after their killing.
Meanwhile, two tortured dead bodies were recovered from Baldia Town of the city.
Meanwhile, the terror of target killing could not stop in Karachi as Dr. Arif Mustafa of Abbasi Shaheed Hospital died by the firing of unknown armed persons in Buffer Zone.
According to details, Dr. Arif Mustafa was enroute to the hospital when the target killers opened fire and killed him whereas Rabitta Committee of Muttahida Qaumi Movement has condemned the brutal murder of Dr. Arif and has also demanded the detention of culprits.
http://nation.com.pk/karachi/22-Dec-201 ... i-violence
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Those who are being sent to the gallows are only those who attacked the Army and were unfortunate to be caught. The Army top brass is in a foul mood after Peshawar and demanded this action from the civvies. Omar Saeed Sheikh was not caught for attacking the Army, BTW.
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Military Media Terrorist Nexus Top Be Punished Islamically By TorrTorrPakistan
PESHAWAR: Spokesman of proscribed Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Mohammad Khurasani Monday claimed that 120 militants of his organization were murdered in past 2 days.According to a statement issued here, TTP spokesman Muhammad Khurasani blamed media and intellects for, what they said, insensitively ignoring the killings of TTP men.“Media will have to face dire consequences for backing the security forces”, he threatened.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-16948 ... nsequences
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shiv wrote: There is definitely a Pashtun Pakjabi war on. But it is only one of several wars like Pakjab-Baluch, Sunni-Shia etc.

Pakistan has all the fissures that the British identified in India when they said India would not last long. Pakistanis agreed with and echoed all those things said about India. It is the bottom-up unifying culture of India where fissures are resolved at ground level that actually unites India. Democracy simply assists the process. Imposed democracy is a top-down system and cannot work unless ground level consensus can happen.

Top down legal systems (like Islam, Christianity other fascist doctrines, dictatorships) cannot forcibly unite people from above. I would judge that Pakistanis, on the ground, are still like Indians. They will solve their differences and disputes at ground level and simply get along, but top down doctrines like Islam are actually a hindrance.

Pakistan will have to discard Islam or aspects of Islam to unite. Islam only divides. it cannot unite diverse culture. Islam is a mono-culture because it dictates and imposes rigid restrictions on all aspect of culture like language, habits, dress, cuisine and art. I write this here so Paki lurkers (the 1% who can read) can read and get angry and deny this without having the ability to come and argue on here, but those are the facts. Anger won't change facts
Shiv Ji: replied to your post on the Western Universalism thread
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Pleaje to apply perspective:

- moar sanctions on russia, even on weekends, every din. Reajon: crimea (ukraine ij internal matter of ukraine). justification: ukrain territorial integrity is sacrosanct.
- more aid to munna bakistan, even on weekends, every din. Reajon: occupying j&k. justification: india's territorial integrity is NOT sacrosanct.

Years ukraine has been around - ?
Years pakistan has been around - ?

Indian apolojists for US/Pakistasn: countless. Irony: priceless.

Karma is a four legged female barking and biting animal. When posterior is bitten: by 3,000 lives here or 3,000 lives there. Why do they hate us?
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Speaking of Saleem Shahzaad, his last book on Al Qaida is available on archive.org.

https://archive.org/details/InsideAlQaedaAndTaliban
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Rajagopal wrote:This news item was posted in the other thread by Harish. Re-posting it here as warning in case you are stuck alone in a room with a Pakistani gent. :mrgreen:

http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/ ... n-pakistan
Hmmm! One of the prominent Animal Rights activist in my neighborhood is a Baki. After reading that article I wonder if there is a misunderstanding between him and the rest of the society about what "Animal Rights" really means. He maybe an "Animist" for all we know.
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The fissures exposed by the army public school massacre have opened up some intriguing possibilities for India.

India cannot (and should not) get involved in the business of fanning the flames of religious intolerance.

However exploiting ethnic divisions is another matter. The Pashtun Pakjabi split begs exploitation, something the proper people are hopefully working on.

I don't see how Pakistan can fight the TTP without alienating the Pashtuns - especially with the kind of indiscriminate bombings we are seeing. For Pakistan to seriously deal with this issue, they will have to treat this like a counter insurgency and have their army act like a police force. I don't think they have the stomach for COIN level casualties.
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This is exactly what Christine fair anticipates in her book.

The hate Indian psyche is required for the existence of the Pakistani army and they have ensured that the people of Pakistan are soaked in the view that India is responsible for everything bad that happens in Pakistan.

if Christine Fair had not done a scholarly work on the origins of this absurd and dangerous situation, even Indians aside from a few of us on BRF would not have believed it. Not that people believe Ms Fair even now - but we cannot take off biases and blinkers at will.
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Interesting keyhole view into whats brewing on the other side. Rest assured HS must have got millions in donations since the attack by now and coffers filling up fast. Atleast couple of dozens of "suicide ready" abduls waiting to get their hands on perky and soft skinned 72 hoors. He must show results in India before he looses the trust and many can get too frustrated and blow him up instead.
One thing is sure, Badmash is on borrowed time. He is NOT going to Dubai this time. It will be a bullet or a lamppost! Bets Ladies and Gentlemen!!
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THe only option to avoid certain perdition for all the RAPE players (Bad, Good Shareef) and Hafiz-e-Suar types is to conduct a terror attack on a massive scale in India and hope that India will retaliate in some way.

If they do it, the abduls who can only read Urdu will be happy. And once India attempts to retaliate, all the RAPEs will be happy. Because they have a raisin dieter to exist and beg for arms now.
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Gagan wrote:After the festivities in Peshabwar fauji iskool, and the Pakistani blaming India for it, my thoughts go back to the Marriott Hotel bombing.
ISI bombed that hotel to take out the CIA listening post there, blamed it on TTP and India. Marriott hotel's owner himself was saying just recently on that youtube video that the bomb truck was hidden in someone's garage in the green zone overnight, was escorted to the hotel by Isloo bolis / eye ass eye.

What followed Marriott was Mumbai 26/11...
Gagan: do you mean ISI took out CIA listening station so that their 26/11 plans don't get exposed? Not sure if the Amir Khans would share such intel with India even if they knew before-hand. But I can see why ISI might not want to take the chance
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Iph there are enough students, I am willing to offer either NCERT or Jamia milia islamia class 1-3? syllabus in this thread for urdu. Dont expect miracles, and it will take you (mainly because I wont be able to deliver more than once a week, iph that) an year to become confident with conversational urdu on PPC urdu or print Urdu media. You will not be able to read hand written urdu, and still have to ask for hand holding when cultural issues beyond the alphabet/grammar come up.
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Shreeman wrote:Iph there are enough students, I am willing to offer either NCERT or Jamia milia islamia class 1-3? syllabus in this thread for urdu. Dont expect miracles, and it will take you (mainly because I wont be able to deliver more than once a week, iph that) an year to become confident with conversational urdu on PPC urdu or print Urdu media. You will not be able to read hand written urdu, and still have to ask for hand holding when cultural issues beyond the alphabet/grammar come up.
You may kindly start adhyaapak ji or start a new thread shreeman.
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dna ‏@dna 21m21 minutes ago

Pakistan government fails to act on Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi's bail, court vacations begin http://dnai.in/cvkJ
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Pakistan, Russia sign $1.7 billion gas pipeline deal, improve ties
For the first time, Pakistan and Russia have signed an energy deal worth $1.7 billion to lay a gas pipeline from Karachi to Lahore, a move that may lead to further improvement in their ties.

The supply of a Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) is expected to start before March next year, The Express Tribune reported.

The report cited unidentified officials saying the pipeline would be used to transport imported LNG from Karachi to Punjab province.

The energy agreement was signed during the day-long visit of Sergei Shoigu last month, the first visit by a Russian Defence Minister to Pakistan in 45 years. The last visit to Pakistan was made by Soviet Union's defence minister Andrey Grechko.

During Shoigu's visit, Islamabad and Moscow also inked a defence and military cooperation deal.

It is the first time Pakistan and Russia have signed an energy pact decades after the recent deal to increase military cooperation.

Pakistan, over the past few years, has carefully courted Russia to boost bilateral relations. Its former army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani visited Russia in 2009 and 2012.

Earlier this year, Russia lifted arms sales embargo to Pakistan, and a "final go ahead" was given for the purchase of Russian MI-35 helicopter gunships.

Pakistan is currently working on two LNG pipelines as an alternative to the apparently doomed Iran-Pakistan (IP) gas pipeline project, which included LNG Gwadar pipeline and south pipeline from Karachi to Lahore.

The government has signed a deal with China to award $3 billion Gwader LNG pipeline and terminal project.

Russia has helped Pakistan set up the Karachi Steel Mills and also supported the Oil and Gas Development Company Limited, which is still using old Russian machinery in exploring oil and gas.

The paper also reported that Pakistan has offered China and Russia to lay IP gas pipeline but both the countries had backed out due to sanctions imposed against Iran.
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Malik Ishaque's detention ends - Dawn
A provincial review board, comprising three judges of the Lahore High Court, on Monday ended detention of Malik Ishaq, leader of a banned outfit, after the Punjab government opted to withdraw appeal for extension to his confinement.

The Punjab special secretary home and other officials produced Ishaq before the board amid strict security as a heavy police contingent was deployed on the high court premises. The board, comprising Justice Manzoor Ahmad Malik, Justice Farrukh Irfan Khan and Justice Abdul Sami Khan, held in-camera proceedings.

The government’s counsel requested the board to extend Ishaq’s detention for further three months in the wake of the Peshawar school massacre. He argued that the release of Ishaq would be a risk to law and order as he was known for delivering hate speeches at religious gatherings.

An insider said Malik Ishaq contested the government’s arguments and told the board that the allegation of delivering provoking speeches was baseless.

The board observed the government had failed to produce convincing evidence in support of its arguments.

Anticipating an adverse decision by the board, the secretary opted to withdraw the appeal and the board dismissed the appeal as withdrawn, ending the detention of Ishaq.


The review board had, on Sept 25, extended the detention of Ishaq for three months. The government had detained him in July this year under maintenance of public order (MPO) declaring him a risk to the law and order. His detention was due to end on Dec 25.
I have already posted the following before, but no harm in recalling.

Malik Ishaque was in jail until c. 2011 though he has been acquitted in 34 cases and given bail in the remaining 10 cases. He was released after the Ahl-e-Sunnat-wal-Jama’at (i.e., SSP) chief, Maulana Muhammad Ahmed Ludhianvi, a close ally of the PML-N, negotiated a secret deal with him on behalf of the Punjab Government. He spent 14 years facing charges related to murder and other terrorist acts. While in jail, he was given a stipend by the Punjab Government and also provided with a cellphone. He was set free in July 2011 but was detained under ‘house arrest’ which was only in name because he was freely moving about with impunity. The State has extended his detention in the ‘interests of public order’ under the ‘Maintenance of Public Order Ordinance’. However, on Jan. 20, 2012, the Review Board of the Lahore High Court refused to detain him any further under ‘house arrest’ and set him free. On the very same day, he was nominated in an FIR registered against his alleged involvement in the recent Khanpur blast killing 18 Shias. He has been accused in the 2002 kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl, twin assassination attempts on Gen. Musharraf in c. 2003, murder of the MQM MPA Raza Haider and the Mastung massacre and the attack on Sri Lankan cricketers in Lahore on Mar. 3, 2009. After a series of attacks on Hazara Shi’as in Quetta (Jan 10, 2013 killing over 80, Feb. 16, 2013 killing nearly 100), Malik Ishaque was again arrested for giving ‘hate speech’ and again under ‘Maintenance of Public Order Ordinance’. In February 2014, the US State Department designated Malik Ishaque as a ‘global terrorist’.
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LokeshC wrote:THe only option to avoid certain perdition for all the RAPE players (Bad, Good Shareef) and Hafiz-e-Suar types is to conduct a terror attack on a massive scale in India and hope that India will retaliate in some way.

If they do it, the abduls who can only read Urdu will be happy. And once India attempts to retaliate, all the RAPEs will be happy. Because they have a raisin dieter to exist and beg for arms now.
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BORROWING FROM PETER TO REPAY PETER’S PREVIOUS LOAN!
December 17, the Executive Board of the IMF concluded the 4th and 5th review together of the EFF arrangement and approved disbursement to Pakistan of two tranches of loan amounting to $1.05 billion. This amount is approximately equal to the repayments made by the PML-N government to the IMF in the last several months.
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Elite living on borrowed time
THE political, social and economic situation is fragile. The agenda for reform is large and daunting. Despite the urgency for change there is frustration on the seemingly aimless drift of a nation awaiting disaster. The population is gripped by a heightened sense of insecurity and uncertainty about the future, and a deeply divided, morally bankrupt, callous society is struggling to overcome apparently insoluble political and social crises. It is difficult to put in words one’s helplessness and despair.
The soft options of the past (concessional aid, remittances of overseas Pakistanis, the bounties from fortuitous events like the Cold War, Afghan war, 9/11 etc) that enabled the elite to postpone a fundamental restructuring of this crumbling state and associated political economic relationships, will most likely not be available so easily and in such abundance in future.
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seemingly aimless drift of a nation awaiting disaster
ABSOLUTELY NOT!! :twisted: :evil:

They are merely 'saving themselves' for the Mahdi -e- ISIP.
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Another reply to pakistaniyat of blaming kufr, x-posting from Bakistan bojitiv,
krishnan wrote:Image
Pakistaniyat has always been about blaming the kufr, the media is merely a tool to flame paki-niyat.
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vishvak wrote:
Another reply to pakistaniyat of blaming kufr, x-posting from Bakistan bojitiv,
krishnan wrote:Image
Pakistaniyat has always been about blaming the kufr, the media is merely a tool to flame paki-niyat.
Araps taught Pakis to read from right to left, but this letter was filed for left to right readers. Abdul read it the Arap way, so it was found after the school attack.
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C Christine Fair writing in War On The Rocks in an article titled “After Peshawar, Expect Business as Usual in Pakistan”:

Clicky

She missed the release of Sunni Mohammadden sectarian terrorist Malik Ishaq.
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This has been the case for quite sometime now.
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by JE Menon
I wouldn't be surprised if the executions are used for Pakistan to disappear some people...i.e. claim they were executed but take them completely underground.
Recently there was a news story where three terrorists who had changed their faces (eyes, nose, ears through plastic surgery) with new identity were able to escape from Lahore airport to some middle east country. One was somehow caught out of total 4. Must be bad taliban! If Bad Taliban has access to plastic surgery imagine what good Taliban is doing (even gender changes and stuff).

Can you find gender with DNA? How about age of the person?

I do hope that we in India are keeping DNA records of all the criminals caught and their all relatives around them.
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The Express Tribune explains foreign debt

Salient Points : 13. Net aid to Pakistan
1. This chart essentially highlights Pakistan's debt trap - Pakistan needs to borrow in order to pay back, often within the same year.

2. The net aid Pakistan received from 1990-2007 on average was only 15% of the aid Pakistan actually received.
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Peregrine wrote:[url=http://www.dawn.com/news/1152551/elite- ... rowed-time]Elite living on borrowed time


From borrowed identity to borrowed money and now to borrowed time. A perfect arch of swords that collapses on those who would pass under its canopy
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Cosmo_R wrote:
Peregrine wrote:[url=http://www.dawn.com/news/1152551/elite- ... rowed-time]Elite living on borrowed time


From borrowed identity to borrowed money and now to borrowed time. A perfect arch of swords that collapses on those who would pass under its canopy


Its like a hangman game. http://www.playhangman.com/

Each wrong step the noose gets closer and closer :) Or to be ijjlamic the tumbrill gets closer and closer to the guillotine. And Bakis have not done a single "right step" to this day. For doing so, they need to think clearly on how to take everyone along with them, and Malsi prevents them from thinking clearly and also from uniting without the use of mass murder.

God-speed..........
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The pakwealthy have money parked abroad and perhaps USA UK Canada or Australia GC or passport already.
They will escape if things get tough.
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See "Threat Alert 802" letter above: What does the stamp "NACTA" mean?
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