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Vayutuvan wrote:

Rony wrote:On the other hand, our concerns on raising oil prices is real and hopefully contingencies are planned for these kind of situations.

Massa already said they will ship oil to India at a price point at which we import from Saudi. Some contracts were drawn or not? Even with that, US is an untrustworthy ally as they have proved again and again not only with India, even their closest allies like Japan.

Philip wrote:The last mentioned will require Oniks/ Yakhont type AShMs with a little help from Russia.Will Russia however want such an escalation? My feeling isa huge NO.None of thd big powers barring the US want another conflagration in the ME given the global eco. crisis.

Philip wrote:Iran will wait jntil it is sure an attack will be a success. It has several options.Terror bombing attacks.Its own drone attacks and juicy naval targets in the Gulf.The last mentioned will require Oniks/ Yakhont type AShMs with a little help from Russia.Will Russia however want such an escalation? My feeling isa huge NO.None of thd big powers barring the US want another conflagration in the ME given the global eco. crisis. Calculated US targets anywhere on thd globe would be a wiser strategy for the Iranians but such a public figure assassinates, Iran's no.2, will demand from Iranians a huge response.

Libyan National Army says it is ready to ‘repel Turkish invasion’

Ismaeel Naar, Al Arabiya EnglishSunday, 5 January 2020

The Libyan National Army said it is ready to “repel the Turkish invasion” and that its navy is prepared to take control of the country’s coastline, LNA spokesperson Major General Ahmed al-Mismari said during a press conference on Saturday.

“We have reached full capability and we have our navy ready to control and secure the country’s coastline. Our air bases and advanced air defense means are also at full capacity, as proven when we shot down several Turkish aircraft,” al-Mismari said.

Last Thursday, Turkish lawmakers formally adopted a bill approving a military deployment in Libya to shore up the UN-recognized Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli.

The Libyan parliament voted unanimously on Saturday to cut ties with Turkey and close embassies in the two countries.

General Khalifa Haftar launched an offensive to capture the Libyan capital of Tripoli in April vowing to end the rule of militias that include hardline groups linked to al-Qaeda and others. General Haftar has reportedly received support from international allies opposed to extremism and the Muslim Brotherhood.

anmol wrote:

Trump warns cultural sites could be targeted if Iran retaliates for Soleimani strike
President Donald Trump wrote on Twitter Saturday night that if Iran retaliates for the U.S. airstrike that killed Gen. Qassem Soleimani near Baghdad, the U.S. is prepared to "hit very fast and very hard" at 52 sites inside Iran, including some important to "the Iranian Culture."

Targeting cultural sites could be considered a war crime under international agreements to which the U.S. belongs, according to both Trump's political foes and former national security officials.

The number 52 used by Trump in his tweets also matched the number of Americans seized in the November 1979 takeover of the U.S. embassy in Tehran. They were held hostage for 444 days.

Ardeshir wrote:
There is no Iranian Culture in Iran. Whatever remnants of Persian Culture exist, do so in Navsari, Udwada, Surat, Mumbai and Pune.

Iraq's parliament voted on Sunday to end foreign troop presence in the country, including thousands from the US, and to lodge a complaint with the United Nations over the killing of Gen Qassem Suleimani, the head of Iran’s elite forces.

On Friday, regional tensions were dramatically escalated after Suleimani was killed by a US drone strike in Baghdad.

The extraordinary session on Sunday was led by outgoing Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi, who resigned following the protests, but is in office until a replacement has been decided on.

Parliament voted on a five-point action plan that would require the Iraqi government to end the presence of foreign troops in the country, and withdraw its request for assistance from the anti-ISIS global coalition. This would require new legislation to cancel the existing agreement.

Parliament also called on the government to ban the use of Iraqi airspace by any foreign power.

The Iraqi foreign minister has been directed to head to the UN to lodge an official complaint against the US strike.

Mr Abdul Mahdi said asking the US forces to leave “would be the best option to establish a strong friendship with the US and other countries, based on mutual respect for sovereignty”.

Manish_Sharma wrote:Iran is being exposed as a cowardly nation.

They were having reputation of being too big and strong to be attacked by USA, EVEN WITHOUT HAVING NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

Now the whole world will see how trump killed their errrmm rommel Sulemani and on top threatens to obliterate their cultural sites if iran doesn't suck it up. All 3 iran, china & russia have no guts to stand up to usa, THEY WILL SUBMIT TO TRUMP.

Manish_Sharma wrote:.. how trump killed their errrmm rommel Sulemani and on top threatens to obliterate their cultural sites if iran doesn't suck it up. All 3 iran, china & russia have no guts to stand up to usa, THEY WILL SUBMIT TO TRUMP.

Russia's engagement has been measured
..

habal wrote:retaliation will be massive and preferably under nuke/russian umbrella. The reason why trump is freaking out on twitter is because he knows a retaliation will come. So first we may see some kind of nuclear test by iran sponsored by china via north korea. What more can usa now do if Iran conducts test o nuke on its own soil. It is now exposed all over globe as a duplicitous bully taking on small countries whom they know cannot react conventionally. Russia & China will seek to trap usa in a persian quagmire since primary reason for russian intervention in syria was to prevent destabilization of iran. In the end usa will prop up another obama type two-face in elections and throw away trump like disposable tissue.

this is like the deccan war fought by the mughals, where mughals never win any decisive battles but do some shock & awe off and on and ultimately the wily marathas take over dehli and sikhs take over pubjab and kashmir and southern afghanistan. 3

Suresh S wrote:It is my 6th sense that killing of general suleimani so publically will prove to be one of the most important events of the twentieth century. It will turn out very badly for US whether one supports Iran or not.Trump has made the worst mistake of his presidency.

habal wrote:retaliation will be massive and preferably under nuke/russian umbrella. The reason why trump is freaking out on twitter is because he knows a retaliation will come. So first we may see some kind of nuclear test by iran sponsored by china via north korea. What more can usa now do if Iran conducts test o nuke on its own soil. It is now exposed all over globe as a duplicitous bully taking on small countries whom they know cannot react conventionally. Russia & China will seek to trap usa in a persian quagmire since primary reason for russian intervention in syria was to prevent destabilization of iran. In the end usa will prop up another obama type two-face in elections and throw away trump like disposable tissue.

this is like the deccan war fought by the mughals, where mughals never win any decisive battles but do some shock & awe off and on and ultimately the wily marathas take over dehli and sikhs take over pubjab and kashmir and southern afghanistan. 3

vivek_ahuja wrote:Has anyone explained what General Suleimani was doing in Baghdad anyway? Why is a foreign General moving in armed convoys in the capital city at the same time as the US Embassy is being ransacked by armed mobs? Coincidence?

For all the boohoo from Iraq about "foreign intervention" blah blah blah, it seems that it is only against western forces. They seem quite at home hosting fellow neighboring islamic military forces and their leaders.

habal wrote:retaliation will be massive and preferably under nuke/russian umbrella.

What Iran can do
There is little substance in Iranian fury. First, the US is technically on solid legal ground, having conducted proportionate retaliation for an attack by Iran-backed Shiite militias on its embassy compound in Baghdad. Second, Iran simply does not have the wherewithal to take on the US conventionally. Any conventional action by Iran will result in massive retaliation, with Trump itching to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Moreover, as the 1988 Operation Praying Mantis and the shooting down of Iran Air 655 flight demonstrated, the US can sink the Iranian Navy and shoot down a civil airliner with near-total impunity. With Iran’s forces severely stretched from Yemen, through Iraq and into Syria, there really are no viable options for retaliation by Iran; whatever retaliation happens will at best be a pinprick that will be easily absorbed and countered.

Iran could have retaliated through “sub-conventional” actions – the kind of terror or asymmetric warfare that Qassem Soleimani specialised in. But the 3 January US airstrike closed that option – with America clearly saying that if Iran engaged in terrorism against it, the US would escalate to the conventional level and target Iran’s leadership.

In short, the entire Iranian geopolitical playbook of the last 40 years just got thrown out of the window. All up: game, set and match trump.

IndraD wrote:while it would be more appropriate for Pk thread
why is it that US holds Iran responsible for American death , carries out strikes against their generals but sucks up to Pakistani army who have caused far more destruction to US interests in Afghanistan?

John wrote:

vivek_ahuja wrote:Has anyone explained what General Suleimani was doing in Baghdad anyway? Why is a foreign General moving in armed convoys in the capital city at the same time as the US Embassy is being ransacked by armed mobs? Coincidence?

For all the boohoo from Iraq about "foreign intervention" blah blah blah, it seems that it is only against western forces. They seem quite at home hosting fellow neighboring islamic military forces and their leaders.

Reportedly they were working on dispersing their assets and moving to closer to Syria to make it harder to target them after they launch a massive rocket strike on US installations.

Rsatchi wrote:https://youtu.be/4GeGlGgeYBY
Listen carefully from 24.29 onwards!!
Musharaff Zaidi claiming Pakistanis fighting in Iraq
is that true?

#BREAKING: Civilian casualties after rocket lands in apartment block opposite US Embassy in Baghdad

@bababanaras
Total 6 rockets were fired in which 5 exploded. 1 rocket hit a civilian house near US embassy in Baghdad and 4 hit the admin building of embassy. Several people killed....

abhik wrote:Tow major developments of today:
1) Iraqi parliament votes to expel US forces, big win for Iran, but only if they are actually able to follow through.
2) Iran "officially" walks out of the nuclear deal.

vivek_ahuja wrote:Has anyone explained what General Suleimani was doing in Baghdad anyway? Why is a foreign General moving in armed convoys in the capital city at the same time as the US Embassy is being ransacked by armed mobs? Coincidence?

For all the boohoo from Iraq about "foreign intervention" blah blah blah, it seems that it is only against western forces. They seem quite at home hosting fellow neighboring islamic military forces and their leaders.

Rsatchi wrote:https://youtu.be/4GeGlGgeYBY
Listen carefully from 24.29 onwards!!
Musharaff Zaidi claiming Pakistanis fighting in Iraq
is that true?

UlanBatori wrote:

Rsatchi wrote:https://youtu.be/4GeGlGgeYBY
Listen carefully from 24.29 onwards!!
Musharaff Zaidi claiming Pakistanis fighting in Iraq
is that true?

Pakis are no doubt "fighting" as soosai truck drivers for the ISIS.

Ardeshir wrote:

Trump warns cultural sites could be targeted if Iran retaliates for Soleimani strike
President Donald Trump wrote on Twitter Saturday night that if Iran retaliates for the U.S. airstrike that killed Gen. Qassem Soleimani near Baghdad, the U.S. is prepared to "hit very fast and very hard" at 52 sites inside Iran, including some important to "the Iranian Culture."

Targeting cultural sites could be considered a war crime under international agreements to which the U.S. belongs, according to both Trump's political foes and former national security officials.

The number 52 used by Trump in his tweets also matched the number of Americans seized in the November 1979 takeover of the U.S. embassy in Tehran. They were held hostage for 444 days.

There is no Iranian Culture in Iran. Whatever remnants of Persian Culture exist, do so in Navsari, Udwada, Surat, Mumbai and Pune.

habal wrote:Gen Wesley Clarke mentioned in an old interview

7 countries and the last one is Iran.

what is the significance of these 7 countries ?
once the democratic, relatively anti-wahabbi regimes are toppled, then field becomes clear to spread fundamentalist wahabbi Islam to destabilize caucusus, russia & china. Esp russia.

that is the big prize.