TMC is cooked eventually. Age will take its toll on Mamata and there is nobody who can replace her. These people can't run things forever.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 24 Mar 2023 23:29
by chetak
RoyG wrote:TMC is cooked eventually. Age will take its toll on Mamata and there is nobody who can replace her. These people can't run things forever.
The jehadis already have big time plans to capture, control and lead the TMC, in the event of such a thing happening.
The jihadis are in the forefront of every violence, bloodshed and orchestrated mayhem.
This was what the jihadis had long planned in assam but Himanta Biswa Sarma and the BJP happened.
The jihadis have to be tackled on their own turf legally and shut out politically, especially as it is a very sensitive border state and also of great interest to the cheenis who are already active in bengal, and on both sides of the border.
Th center seems to have cornered mumtaz bano but seems to have no clue about how to tackle the jihadis effectively. In fact, with mumtaz bano cornered and quietened down, the jihadis have become emboldened
the next beedi govt will cause big time problems for India, especially in kolkata. rohingiyas will flood in
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 30 Mar 2023 01:03
by vijayk
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 30 Mar 2023 08:20
by sanjayc
^^ Hindus keep the Congress monster alive. They are eager partners in their own persecution. Still Cong days are numbered, not because Hindus will develop any political intelligence, but because mata ji is ageing and won't live for ever.
News from Karnataka, which is poised to go for Assembly elections on May 10 (single phase) and counting of results on May 13. Swarajya has two detailed explainers about the recent moves by the Bommai govt to reconstitute the reservation matrix.
Both of these articles explain the delicate balancing act performed by the Bommai govt - how will that impact the final outcome? Reminds me of the social engineering done in UP which eventually disloged Akhilesh's SP govt and made the BJP a strong player.
Everyone is expecting the results to be similar to the last elections, where the BJP got 104, Congress 80 and JD(S) 37 (total 224). Historically, BJP, despite forming the govt multiple times, has never managed to get it's own majority and has always formed the govt with a coalition or some deft manoeuvering. This was attributed to the strong caste equations across the state, with most Lingayats backing the BJP, Vokkaligas backing the JD(S), and Dalits and minorities going to the Congress, and this equation has largely stayed intact, making hung verdicts the norm. Will the above changes can pose a threat to this balance, and help the BJP finally go past the halfway mark?
Can anyone here following KA politics pitch in?
I personally feel a BJP govt coming back is important to take our infra expansion and Atmanirbhar initiatives to the next level. KA being a major economic engine in the services sector can boost GDP growth significantly. Politically, it would be a huge shot in the arm for the BJP cadre in the south, especially in TS and TN where they are growing aggressively. It's not for nothing that Annamalai's biggest backer has been BL Santosh, and he has been sent to KA as the deputy election in-charge to observe and learn. A win will help CT Ravi (who's the in-charge for TN BJP) advocate a more aggressive path for 2024 (and 2026 when TN goes for elections). So there will be spin-off benefits from a proper BJP win.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 01 Apr 2023 10:01
by Manas
arshyam wrote:
Can anyone here following KA politics pitch in?
I personally feel a BJP govt coming back is important to take our infra expansion and Atmanirbhar initiatives to the next level. KA being a major economic engine in the services sector can boost GDP growth significantly. Politically, it would be a huge shot in the arm for the BJP cadre in the south.
I agree that from a pan-India perspective and keeping in mind the 2024 national elections it is important that BJP retain their power in Karnataka, However, the BJP govt has failed (IMO) to provide a clean, efficient administration despite changing chief ministers (Yediyurappa to Bommai). Unfortunately, Karnataka has been cursed by really 3rd rate, corrupt politicians across all 3 parties - Congress I, BJP and JD (S). While the caste, community politics you point out are all true (Lingayats backing BJP, old mysore/vokkaligas backing JD (S) - BTW D.K. Shivakumar the Congress I money bag/CM aspirant is also a Vokkaliga, former CM Siddaramaiah of the Kuruba (shepherd) community the 3rd largest caste block in the state seems to be the front runner for Congress I. All parties/governments over the last 15 years have failed to provide a development focused administration. Corruption is rampant, infrastructure in a city like Bangalore is a pitiful and development vision is lacking.
I would not be surprised if BJP loses this election and if so they deserve to. It is unfortunate that the Central leadership replaced Yediyurappa with another ineffective leader like Bommai instead of a visionary, dedicated, driven, visionary leader with RSS background, discipline.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 01 Apr 2023 11:11
by chetak
sanjayc wrote:^^ Hindus keep the Congress monster alive. They are eager partners in their own persecution. Still Cong days are numbered, not because Hindus will develop any political intelligence, but because mata ji is ageing and won't live for ever.
The gen next mamamia mafia is (are) not good enough for the BIF to pull along and implement their agenda.
They, the mamamia mafia, and their once eager cabal of backers have reached a fork in the road.
It's decision time, and perhaps, now or in the very short term, the road not (yet) taken has to be considered.
The age old allure of the locals for the white skin has significantly worn out.
The combination of active Indian leadership with unprecedented delivery of public goods and services, that has resulted in the considerable easing of the travails of the daily grind of the mango man has struck a chord with the populace.
Most are grateful but there are still entitled "minorities", religious as well as those delineated by professions, like say, the "farmers" who are turning out to be the new oppressors, primarily in states north of the vindhiyas where migrant labour is blatantly exploited.
khujliwal's quest for power has publicly hit a landmine in punjab, and the voters in the rest of the country are neither fools, nor are they a bunch of sheep to be herded at will.
It's no secret that the exploitative cabals backing such scum are predominantly white, commie, as well as , padre led, based offshore, and blatantly anti India in agenda.
The earlier days when defacto political power was wielded by eyeraan and the gulf countries to force specific political and diplomatic responses from the minority vote bank compromised Indian leadership have long since disappeared.
Times have changed as have the awam, and a sea change in outlook has started to dominate the ground realities.
Let's just see how far this changed narrative takes us...
But sanjayc ji, you are right in one way.
Woke Hindus abound in urban settings and come election day, these clowns will take off on a family outing. One can see scores upon scores of such callous clowns heading out of the city, on their way to exotic home stays and holiday spots.
This, even when these poisonous "Hindus" know for sure will cause difficult electoral outcomes, resulting ultimately in rights and social entitlements being eroded, as others more mindful of the power of the ballot box and keen to ensure specific political aftereffects enforce by merely turning up and exercising their fundamental right/duty given by the constitution/owed to society.
In the end, it's about the road not taken and karma hunting them down saying "सबका नंबर आएगा"
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 01 Apr 2023 19:49
by ramana
Manas,
It is unfortunate that the Central leadership replaced Yediyurappa with another ineffective leader like Bommai instead of a visionary, dedicated, driven, visionary leader with an RSS background, and discipline.
Can you name one such leader in each of the three contenders?
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 01 Apr 2023 20:39
by Swaroop
I have been lurking here from the days of the Kargil War. I have posted very rarely though.
At this point, personally, I don't care about the candidate or chief minister. We cannot afford to have anybody but BJP forming the government.
1) ATM to the others
2) if everyone is corrupt, hey, why don't we support Modi-ಅವರು?
3) ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ needs double engine
4) Confidence boost in neighboring states.
I am going to press the key, speak out for BJP, and hope for the best
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 01 Apr 2023 20:57
by Manish_P
Chetak wrote:...
Woke Hindus abound in urban settings and come election day, these clowns will take off on a family outing. One can see scores upon scores of such callous clowns heading out of the city, on their way to exotic home stays and holiday spots.
Chetak ji, what about e-voting. Via mobile. What are your thoughts on it. For sure India has (or can develop) the tech to do it. Secure, encrypted, Aadhar and OTP based. Am sure there are ways to make it anonymous as well.
Yes there are a lot of people without mobile. For them the regular EVM machines can be used.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 01 Apr 2023 21:16
by chetak
Manish_P wrote:
Chetak wrote:...
Woke Hindus abound in urban settings and come election day, these clowns will take off on a family outing. One can see scores upon scores of such callous clowns heading out of the city, on their way to exotic home stays and holiday spots.
Chetak ji, what about e-voting. Via mobile. What are your thoughts on it. For sure India has (or can develop) the tech to do it. Secure, encrypted, Aadhar and OTP based. Am sure there are ways to make it anonymous as well.
Yes there are a lot of people without mobile. For them the regular EVM machines can be used.
Manish saar,
Any change/modification to the current voting process will bring widespread accusations of electoral fraud from the BIF.
There are numerous "observers" from shady FFNGOs already video graphing the process but, very rightly, not being given access to the inside of the voting booths. A few do it (external video graphing) officially but many do it unauthorized and unofficially and with evil motivations.
In spite of their best efforts, no one, from anywhere in the world, has been able to point a finger at the fairness of the Indian electoral system.
IMVHO, lets not play around with a well working system that has withstood the test of time and also gives us street cred the world over.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 01 Apr 2023 21:34
by Manish_P
^ Chetak ji, I understand your line of reasoning.
IMVHO the world has also seen how we handled COVID vaccination scheduling using a mobile App, they are seeing how UPI has revolutionized the way Indians do payments.
Not that we should really care what they think.
And I meant R-voting as a supplementary to EVM. And targetted to be used by those lazy holiday loving folk. Even the old age seniors.
Anyway I guess it may be a thing for the future...
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 01 Apr 2023 21:39
by gakakkad
i ll take the chu-voter poll with a bucketful on non iodized salt.. likely commisioned by congress
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 01 Apr 2023 21:56
by sanjayc
Manish_P wrote:
Chetak wrote:...
Woke Hindus abound in urban settings and come election day, these clowns will take off on a family outing. One can see scores upon scores of such callous clowns heading out of the city, on their way to exotic home stays and holiday spots.
Chetak ji, what about e-voting. Via mobile. What are your thoughts on it. For sure India has (or can develop) the tech to do it. Secure, encrypted, Aadhar and OTP based. Am sure there are ways to make it anonymous as well.
Yes there are a lot of people without mobile. For them the regular EVM machines can be used.
Not advisable. Church and mosques will ask faithful to assemble in church / mosque on voting day, and the padres / imams will supervise who they are voting for. Same with communists in Bengal or Kerala -- villagers will be asked to come to the local commissar's office with their mobile phones on voting day, where cadres will direct the voting. Anonymity of voting process is sacrosanct.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 02 Apr 2023 02:50
by Manas
ramana wrote:Manas,
It is unfortunate that the Central leadership replaced Yediyurappa with another ineffective leader like Bommai instead of a visionary, dedicated, driven, visionary leader with an RSS background, and discipline.[/quopte]
Can you name one such leader in each of the three contenders?
Ramana - Unfortunately I dont see any young, visionary leaders in Janata Dal (S) and Congress I in Karnataka. JD (S) is a father (Devegowda) and his two sons, daughters in law, grandsons party with influence in 3-4 districts. Congress I has the usual career politicians that are all about tired old OBC, Minority, caste based vote bank opportunists.
In the BJP - Tejasvi Surya the young MP from Bangalore south seems to have the energy, vision and the commitment to do good. However he is prone to controversial utterances once in a while. Hopefully he can stay out of it with some political maturity. In most of the south the BJP is still seen as a brahmanical party at least among the older generation. But the attitudes in states like Karnataka are changing. While some even urban areas call Modi a "marketing guy" that is a more show off than real work - the attitudes amongst the larger population seems to be changing and there is recognition that Modi and his administration are trying to change the country on a warfooting. It is hard to not see the tangible progress in infrastructure, digitization of the economy that is cutting out middlemen.
I think the genius of Modi is not his personal commitment, dedication to change the face of the country for the better, but also his ministerial picks - Gadkari, Goyal, Irani, Jaishankar, Vaishnaw etc. But most importantly unlike most politicians he stays above the fracas and is very careful, measured in his speeches. Despite the hatred for Modi among the leftists, media in India (which is equivalent to if not more than that exists for Trump in the U.S) Modi has mostly steered clear of verbal slip ups that the media would blow out of proportions. It is critical for BJP leaders, especially CMs and Ministers to avoid verbal snafus.
This news appeared couple of months back too. Hope they actually launch the channel after Karnataka elections at least.
Dravidian parties in TN are a class apart when it comes to propaganda via movies, news channels, newspapers, ideology-laden songs in slum-loudspeakers, social media etc.
You have to go toe-to-toe with them to de-condition people. But once this model is established, BJP should roll it out in all States. Plus more channels like Republic at the national, English-speaking level
Its a tough ask for Annamalai in TN. The more I see it, the more I feel that he is a little over-optimistic vis-a-vis seat projections, though as a leader, he has to be the cheerleader. People have to be woken from the Dravida-maya and that will take time. He should also take care to not peak too early.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 11:56
by chetak
Prem Kumar wrote:This news appeared couple of months back too. Hope they actually launch the channel after Karnataka elections at least.
Dravidian parties in TN are a class apart when it comes to propaganda via movies, news channels, newspapers, ideology-laden songs in slum-loudspeakers, social media etc.
You have to go toe-to-toe with them to de-condition people. But once this model is established, BJP should roll it out in all States. Plus more channels like Republic at the national, English-speaking level
Its a tough ask for Annamalai in TN. The more I see it, the more I feel that he is a little over-optimistic vis-a-vis seat projections, though as a leader, he has to be the cheerleader. People have to be woken from the Dravida-maya and that will take time. He should also take care to not peak too early.
sirjee,
don't worry
The BJP needs just a toehold and a breakthrough into the TN political arena.
Even low numbers don't matter at this stage.
This is the opening shot and also a shot across the dravidian bows.
But the dravidians and their BIF handlers know exactly what it truly is...
In gunnery terms, it is a ranging shot....preparatory to the salvoes that are to come and will come
Why do you think that the RSS jatha / RSS rallies is not being allowed to proceed on public roads, and the panicked dravidians are running helter skelter, from courts to court to stop it....
It is to prevent the public from seeing how much of a support the BJP/RSS has managed, and how many sanatanis are game to cross swords with the dravidians and to fight it out at the ballot box
All those seeking a ban on RSS note.
The Madras HC has threatened the DMK led Coalition government in Tamil Nadu with contempt if it doesn't allow the RSS to conduct a route march on Nov 6.
The state govt had used a flimsy pretext to scrap a similar RSS rally on Oct 2.
via twitter
annamalai is a phenomenon not seen before in TN politics and the dravidians are unable to counter him easily because violence against him will result in the guaranteed dismissal of the ill named stalin govt.
The BIF dread of Modi, as well as, the fear among the dravidians from the BJP/RSS combine is very real, especially with the steadfast and incorruptible annamalai in the driver's seat, the dravidian's and the padre's combination of centuries of fraud, pilferage and accumulation of ill gotten gains, cultural theft, and evil social manipulation are at grave risk of being washed away in the flood...
Sorry to say, many of the earlier so called BJP "local leaders" in TN turned out to be amenable to, shall we say, dravidian, padre, and BIF sourced "inducements"
There were actually "DMK" and "AIDMK" factions within the local BJP but no "BJP" faction per se (within the local BJP), until annamalai stepped in and the other two (clearly identified) factions went into the wait and watch mode and are now maintaining strict radio silence to pick a winner, if and when they jump.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 12:40
by chetak
Arvind Kejriwal never asks for manish sisodia’s degree because manish sisodia doesn’t have one.
He is twelfth class pass.
Arvind Kejriwal made him Delhi’s Education minister.via@ARanganathan72
sisodia has a diploma of journalism and his alma mater is the Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan.
Manish Sisodia was born in a Hindu family, of Phagauta village in Hapur district of Uttar Pradesh.
Born to a father who was a public school teacher, he was enrolled into the government school in his village.
so, even his schooling has been "assisted"
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 04 Apr 2023 12:44
by chetak
shades of India's first "education" minister the "maulana" abul kalam azad who never ever went to any school but then "maulana" neverwho had many debts to payoff, appointed him India's first "education" minister, so the Indian public paid through their nose
Arvind Kejriwal never asks for manish sisodia’s degree because manish sisodia doesn’t have one.
He is twelfth class pass.
Arvind Kejriwal made him Delhi’s Education minister.via@ARanganathan72
sisodia has a diploma of journalism and his alma mater is the Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan.
Manish Sisodia was born in a Hindu family, of Phagauta village in Hapur district of Uttar Pradesh.
Born to a father who was a public school teacher, he was enrolled into the government school in his village.
one stalwart, aspiring for the CM gaddi himself has publicly said that he is "prepared" to work under the national president of his failed national party.
does this mean that the said " national president of his failed national party " is unhappy with the exalted position conferred on him and is far keener to rule the roost at the state level where interference is much less and the pickings are much more lucrative
the other CM gaddi aspirant is busy stitching up "support" from a motley gang of power hungry communities, all of whom are hoping to greedily cash in as the price of their "support"
lost in the middle of this street fight are the "minority Hindus of the middle class" who actually bear the burden of the taxes that are used to fuel their pampered votebanks which are all patently anti Hindu.
Come voting day and these "minority Hindus of the middle class" will rush out of the cities to spend time and money at expensive homestays and resorts that are artfully spewing tempting offers to make these dumbos stay away from the voting booths, and most "resorts", in and around the city are owned by vested interested parties and politicos.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 11 Apr 2023 18:12
by chetak
chetak wrote:
Prem Kumar wrote:This news appeared couple of months back too. Hope they actually launch the channel after Karnataka elections at least.
Dravidian parties in TN are a class apart when it comes to propaganda via movies, news channels, newspapers, ideology-laden songs in slum-loudspeakers, social media etc.
You have to go toe-to-toe with them to de-condition people. But once this model is established, BJP should roll it out in all States. Plus more channels like Republic at the national, English-speaking level
Its a tough ask for Annamalai in TN. The more I see it, the more I feel that he is a little over-optimistic vis-a-vis seat projections, though as a leader, he has to be the cheerleader. People have to be woken from the Dravida-maya and that will take time. He should also take care to not peak too early.
sirjee,
don't worry
The BJP needs just a toehold and a breakthrough into the TN political arena.
Even low numbers don't matter at this stage.
This is the opening shot and also a shot across the dravidian bows.
But the dravidians and their BIF handlers know exactly what it truly is...
In gunnery terms, it is a ranging shot....preparatory to the salvoes that are to come and will come
Why do you think that the RSS jatha / RSS rallies is not being allowed to proceed on public roads, and the panicked dravidians are running helter skelter, from courts to court to stop it....
It is to prevent the public from seeing how much of a support the BJP/RSS has managed, and how many sanatanis are game to cross swords with the dravidians and to fight it out at the ballot box
All those seeking a ban on RSS note.
The Madras HC has threatened the DMK led Coalition government in Tamil Nadu with contempt if it doesn't allow the RSS to conduct a route march on Nov 6.
The state govt had used a flimsy pretext to scrap a similar RSS rally on Oct 2.
via twitter
annamalai is a phenomenon not seen before in TN politics and the dravidians are unable to counter him easily because violence against him will result in the guaranteed dismissal of the ill named stalin govt.
The BIF dread of Modi, as well as, the fear among the dravidians from the BJP/RSS combine is very real, especially with the steadfast and incorruptible annamalai in the driver's seat, the dravidian's and the padre's combination of centuries of fraud, pilferage and accumulation of ill gotten gains, cultural theft, and evil social manipulation are at grave risk of being washed away in the flood...
Sorry to say, many of the earlier so called BJP "local leaders" in TN turned out to be amenable to, shall we say, dravidian, padre, and BIF sourced "inducements"
There were actually "DMK" and "AIDMK" factions within the local BJP but no "BJP" faction per se (within the local BJP), until annamalai stepped in and the other two (clearly identified) factions went into the wait and watch mode and are now maintaining strict radio silence to pick a winner, if and when they jump.
The Supreme Court Tuesday dismissed the Tamil Nadu government’s appeal challenging the Madras High Court judgement allowing the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) to carry out route marches in the state.
A bench of Justices V Ramasubramanian and Pankaj Mithal rejected the ruling DMK government’s appeal against the February 10 order of the HC Division Bench. The judgment copy is awaited.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 11 Apr 2023 19:09
by Sachin
chetak wrote:Come voting day and these "minority Hindus of the middle class" will rush out of the cities to spend time and money at expensive homestays and resorts
May not happen this time, as KA elections are happening on a Wednesday. The only voters who would be missing in action would be the one who are still on 'work from home' mode.
The judgment copy is awaited
Bar & Bench on Twitter. The heart burn of the dravidians is a must see . Order from Hon. Supreme Court
The hearing was via a Special Leave Petition under Article 136 of the Indian Constituition. The order actually gives a history of the entire gimmicks played by the secular government of TN.
Refer to the below statements in pages 12 & 13 of the order. The details of those cases are actually furnished in the memorandum of grounds of special leave petition(s).....
But the Chart provided by the State Government shows that the members of the respondent organization were the victims in many of those cases and that they were not the perpetrators.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 11 Apr 2023 21:01
by chetak
the stupidity of politicos is legendary
this is the very same sickular cabbage growing hero who dissed digital payments while mocking Modi in parliament
and today many countries are lining up eagerly to adopt India's UPI technology
here's hoping that crow tastes good with chettinad cabbage curry and his favorite sandwich
ditto is the case with these Rs 50,000 Mudra loans and the beneficiaries are not only making profits, but quite unlike his super rich crooked pals, are honestly paying back the loans in huge numbers and defaults are in the very low single digit numbers
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 11 Apr 2023 21:12
by Mukesh.Kumar
While going through the last few posts on why BJP is failing to make headway in non core states like TN, Kerala, and WB, BRFites have highlighted local leadership as a key factor.
I believe there's another factor we're missing out. Control of media. Look at the pattern. Whether it's WB or Kerala a lot of the good work is repackaged as State schemes and pushed out. People benefit but it's the State Govt which takes the credit.
Yes national news may speak about this. But people away from the Centre consume news in local language and channels that have high content of locally relevant news. This is a chink in the BJP armour.
The solution is not creating private channels but improving DD and making it attractive.
Out of 189 (224 total) candidates announced by BJP for Karnataka:
1 ticket per family (except Jarakiholi and Katti).
41% for SC/ST/OBC.
52 new faces.
108 Graduates.
31 Post graduates.
1 PhD.
9 Doctors.
Adjustment politics curbed.
10 current MLAs dropped.
@BJP4India's Karnataka candidate list is a game-changer - fresh faces & proven leaders ready to deliver governance worthy of the 21st century.
The opposition @INCKarnataka. list is more of stale candidates stuck in the past like their party!
The choice is clear #BJPYeBharavase
Out of 189 (224 total) candidates announced by BJP for Karnataka:
1 ticket per family (except Jarakiholi and Katti).
41% for SC/ST/OBC.
52 new faces.
108 Graduates.
31 Post graduates.
1 PhD.
9 Doctors.
Adjustment politics curbed.
10 current MLAs dropped.
What I like in KA politics is the package deal politics. No political ideology, each 'leader' acts like a feudal lord and spends crores of money to retain a set of fans/voters who would blindly vote for the 'leader'. The 'leader & voters' comes as the package deal. Political parties needs to decide on the leaders to avail the vote share/package. Even for a Town Municipal Councillor elections, parties decide candidates also based on his money power and capacity to get votes. Potential candidates keep aside nearly a crore, and then seek which political party is willing to take them. And if they lose, the money spent goes in the air .
This is different from states like KL, where changing parties most often becomes a political suicide for the person who did it. Commies etc, generally ensure that their candidates often come up from the grass root level. And getting votes for them also becomes the party's responsibility. TN should also be in similar lines. KA seems to be different.
Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 12 Apr 2023 18:54
by vijayk
chetak wrote:
No one cares. I checked. Mostly Twitter trolls and useless TV channels