CA secession was mooted by an Iranian (not American yet) billionaire. Probably gelhead slippery gov wants tolord over Mexico too in addition to CA/OR/WA and become a satrap of Emperor Xi. He can be bought for a pair of airlifted Chinese EVs and wine estates in Napa county.
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This one doesn't look Iranian.Vayutuvan wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 01:57 CA secession was mooted by an Iranian (not American yet) billionaire. Probably gelhead slippery gov wants tolord over Mexico too in addition to CA/OR/WA and become a satrap of Emperor Xi. He can be bought for a pair of airlifted Chinese EVs and wine estates in Napa county.
Maybe there was an earlier effort? Wiki has mention of a 2015 California secession movement backed by Russia.
Youtube link
Calexit
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It looks like the US Kalifornia ICE standoff is just the beginning. There is a nationwide effort to oppose ICE everywhere. A new entity called No King has been formed and funded by who else George Soros to resist ICE. This is deep state operation to curtail DJT and his crack down against illegals that streamed into US during Bidenwa era under dolt kamala harris watch. Already Texas is reporting resistance against ICE near bordering towns. Texas just escaped recently from all islamic township being created. The marines have to be summoned in many places. DJT is being positioned for another impeachment trial by Deep State operatives.
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https://youtu.be/UKqjEe9_HBQ?si=IwVS05D8BF6gERIi
Shocking deportation caught on cam | Indian student handcuffed and pinned down in US Airport
Shocking deportation caught on cam | Indian student handcuffed and pinned down in US Airport
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https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1931939488533729695
What I have been arguing. Some of the esteemed BRF posters are not happy with Trump sending National Guard and Marines to keep peace in LA. They prefer illegal Mexicans to legal Indians just to spite Trump and do PR for their favorite Democrat politician.Shiv Aroor
@ShivAroor
“We prefer illegal Mexicans to legal Indians.”
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I think that was in 2017 timeframe.vera_k wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 02:50 Maybe there was an earlier effort? Wiki has mention of a 2015 California secession movement backed by Russia.
Youtube link
Calexit
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CA is a bit of an interesting state. Approximately 40% are of Hispanic origin and of that 33% are of Mexican ancestry. There is 35% of whites and 15% asian population. I see a lot of Mexican flag flying in the protests. Newsom might exploit the situation of crown himself as the resistance in chief aspiring to become the commander in chief. So Trump needs to quell the protest quickly and finish the ICE operation quietly.bala wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 04:30 It looks like the US Kalifornia ICE standoff is just the beginning. There is a nationwide effort to oppose ICE everywhere. A new entity called No King has been formed and funded by who else George Soros to resist ICE. This is deep state operation to curtail DJT and his crack down against illegals that streamed into US during Bidenwa era under dolt kamala harris watch. Already Texas is reporting resistance against ICE near bordering towns. Texas just escaped recently from all islamic township being created. The marines have to be summoned in many places. DJT is being positioned for another impeachment trial by Deep State operatives.
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This is from an Indian newspaper: Kamala Harris won the 2024 elections.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr
Moderator, this is from India, The Economic Times. I'm just a messenger.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr
Moderator, this is from India, The Economic Times. I'm just a messenger.
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Nuance is that the Mexicans are the "sons of the soil". Surely we are familiar with this concept in India.Vayutuvan wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 06:49 https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1931939488533729695What I have been arguing. Some of the esteemed BRF posters are not happy with Trump sending National Guard and Marines to keep peace in LA. They prefer illegal Mexicans to legal Indians just to spite Trump and do PR for their favorite Democrat politician.Shiv Aroor
@ShivAroor
“We prefer illegal Mexicans to legal Indians.”
The term "sons of the soil" (Spanish: "hijos del suelo") in California refers to those who were residents of what is now California before it was annexed by the United States. This primarily refers to Californios, who were the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the region during the period of Spanish and Mexican California, and their descendants.
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> Some of the esteemed BRF posters are not happy with Trump sending National Guard and Marines to keep peace in LA.
Mainly because he doesn't have the legal or constitutional authority to do so.
Mainly because he doesn't have the legal or constitutional authority to do so.
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Hain?! Let us see if head in gel jar and his ice cream eating aunt have the authority to stop the president.
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on the utility of meta understanding the thread titled understanding the us-again
every thread has a mandate and an end state that is desirous, if there are no guiderails to a thread's mandate, then any and all discussions can be reduced to intellectual masturbation; that being the case, there are 3 and only 3 reasons on why this thread is necessary at all
1) for most people, the us is the center of the universe, its an undeniable fact, majority of news channels now have dedicated time slots to covering what is happening in the First Country, so most people, as well as some posters would say, might as well understand how the leader of the free world behaves, it is after all beamed into our skulls a good chunk of the time
a downside to the above, particularly from an indian perspective, is the reduced time allocation to discussion of local issues by the media, important coverage and look aheads on soap operas, murders most foul sensationalism, ascendancy of the pandavas to the heavens for the zillionth time, the squeaking and squawking of self-appointed public priest, audience, the sramana for minor to major infractions are all lost in time like tears in a rain...
2) other posters like to swap esoteric knowledge on the minutiae of the working of the american polity
i am sure members of a forum primarily residing in india can find much comfort and knowledge in enriching themselves by reading post after post of such inanities
3) there are posters who know that the following 2 maxim go hand-in-hand and try to post accordingly:
understanding leads to empathy and
familiarity breeds contempt
mental inferiority of indians cannot go until indians start to laangmaar the international gora, that is indians start viewing goras as another community of india and in typical indian fashion start scuttling their advances, this is the end goal that people have sensed, we are too similar, asians, arabs, africans, hispanics, aboriginals, they are all disparate, indians and caucasians otoh are similar in ways that asians for all their cello and ballet aping can never hope to match
to do that, it is vital that to the common person, as in one who uses the net for other purposes than stalking women, the view is reinforced repeatedly that the communities are similar, that there are issues in the First Country as well; the number of people who will say any sort of thing for a foreign stay, exploitation of religion, of caste, of colour, of gender, discrimination to the gora is astounding
the main issue is to feel special, the last time round, the gora was here, a lot of communities got a special tag, martial caste, intellectual caste, kite-flying caste... indians will spill out to a gora, be it peer, junior, senior differences just to be labelled special, it does not matter if you are having lunch, your indian counterpart will point you out to the gora and say "these people, their food is different, our people, we make things in this particular way", but for everything
you have younger people who will support #notmypresident, the dipshts never understanding that yes, he is not your president, champion blm, advance causes of american outlook on indian soil in religion, patriarchy, marriage rituals, rituals in general, mythology, just to be labelled special, it is very very disheartening
to this end, some indians have started assimilating the gora in the wider pantheon of communities, in many online areas, indians refer to the gora as the onlyfans race, it is reprehensible, but it is getting the point across
when obama became the potus, the naive indian community (a large part anyways) swindled by the media fell to his worship as well, but next time a jaurez takes reign or even a gora gora, the relations will not be adulation and overt worship
general amity is not the best possible outcome, if the message has to be sent in a cheery way, so be it, i have always been clear with what i want from this thread and what understanding the us - again means to me
every thread has a mandate and an end state that is desirous, if there are no guiderails to a thread's mandate, then any and all discussions can be reduced to intellectual masturbation; that being the case, there are 3 and only 3 reasons on why this thread is necessary at all
1) for most people, the us is the center of the universe, its an undeniable fact, majority of news channels now have dedicated time slots to covering what is happening in the First Country, so most people, as well as some posters would say, might as well understand how the leader of the free world behaves, it is after all beamed into our skulls a good chunk of the time
a downside to the above, particularly from an indian perspective, is the reduced time allocation to discussion of local issues by the media, important coverage and look aheads on soap operas, murders most foul sensationalism, ascendancy of the pandavas to the heavens for the zillionth time, the squeaking and squawking of self-appointed public priest, audience, the sramana for minor to major infractions are all lost in time like tears in a rain...
2) other posters like to swap esoteric knowledge on the minutiae of the working of the american polity
or something like that, it all sounds gibberish anyways after a couple of lines, here, i'll add the customary emoji that is somehow compulsory for all posts on this threadyes, this fight is between chris goldbergsteinowitz of the red team and abuella gonzales of the blue team in the second primary of Chief-Two-Buffalo Falls in Wichita, but the results can be thrown out by the Lower Fifth Court of Broadway, but Justices of the 2nd Parallel Supreme Court located on highway I38, next to the Byculla-Bhyander bypass can overrule it.. very smart indeed
i am sure members of a forum primarily residing in india can find much comfort and knowledge in enriching themselves by reading post after post of such inanities
3) there are posters who know that the following 2 maxim go hand-in-hand and try to post accordingly:
understanding leads to empathy and
familiarity breeds contempt
mental inferiority of indians cannot go until indians start to laangmaar the international gora, that is indians start viewing goras as another community of india and in typical indian fashion start scuttling their advances, this is the end goal that people have sensed, we are too similar, asians, arabs, africans, hispanics, aboriginals, they are all disparate, indians and caucasians otoh are similar in ways that asians for all their cello and ballet aping can never hope to match
to do that, it is vital that to the common person, as in one who uses the net for other purposes than stalking women, the view is reinforced repeatedly that the communities are similar, that there are issues in the First Country as well; the number of people who will say any sort of thing for a foreign stay, exploitation of religion, of caste, of colour, of gender, discrimination to the gora is astounding
the main issue is to feel special, the last time round, the gora was here, a lot of communities got a special tag, martial caste, intellectual caste, kite-flying caste... indians will spill out to a gora, be it peer, junior, senior differences just to be labelled special, it does not matter if you are having lunch, your indian counterpart will point you out to the gora and say "these people, their food is different, our people, we make things in this particular way", but for everything
you have younger people who will support #notmypresident, the dipshts never understanding that yes, he is not your president, champion blm, advance causes of american outlook on indian soil in religion, patriarchy, marriage rituals, rituals in general, mythology, just to be labelled special, it is very very disheartening
to this end, some indians have started assimilating the gora in the wider pantheon of communities, in many online areas, indians refer to the gora as the onlyfans race, it is reprehensible, but it is getting the point across
when obama became the potus, the naive indian community (a large part anyways) swindled by the media fell to his worship as well, but next time a jaurez takes reign or even a gora gora, the relations will not be adulation and overt worship
general amity is not the best possible outcome, if the message has to be sent in a cheery way, so be it, i have always been clear with what i want from this thread and what understanding the us - again means to me
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Vayutuvan ji,
These riots have external state sponsors, like the slant eyed variety and the global leftist cabal funded by soreass and gang.
The very same thing that has been happening to India via the good offices of the culinary institute, cheen clowns, and paki isi scum who have all, had a hand in fomenting, funding, and abetting riots via the .5 front cannon fodder, traitorous gaddar politicos buried in the pockets of the BIF deep state, and the soreass gang and their ilk have been active in managing the presstitute media, until Mota Bhai cut them off at the knees ....
It's time that the amriki goras felt the sharp edge of the terrorist's knife slicing into their fat butts
the potus would not send in the national guard and marines, uninvited into a state, unless it was to quickly quell the riots, lest it spread like wild fire.
Remember how the wide spread support for the palestinian terrorists spread like uncontrollable wild fires, from US university to university.
Everyone now knows who funded that anarchy and turbulence, until trumpwa came later and quelled them all with an iron hand, to prevent any encores by the dumb cannon fodder at these universities. That was V 1.0, and it started with godra, moved on to the dilli riots, the "farmer's agitation", 2024 elections, and the beedi coup by youanus. pahalgam now looks like it is the upgraded version of the same game plan of destabilizing India.
trumpwa shooting harvard in the head was an unmistakable message to all amriki universities, and almost all of them are very very quiet these days, not knowing when their time will come
This street version is a new and improved V 2.0.
trumpwa may not have had any options left, especially when the state governor has publicly taken their side
It could also mean that the external forces arrayed against him may be worried about trumpwa making a resurgence and gaining political heft that may last till the end of his term, giving him room to flex his muscles.
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@ricky_v, I appreciate your thoughtful post.
To me, the purpose of "Understanding the US" is to understand what things make the US strong, what things make the US weak or ineffectual, and to apply those learnings, as far as is applicable, to India. Apart from generalities such as "prosperity", "strong economy", etc., I don't see any direct applicability of the American experience to India - it is a very different system and culture. The premises behind the respective Constitutions are very different. Therefore, it takes a much deeper look to see if there is anything useful for India.
"Democracy" is a very broad term. There are things that are perfectly legal for the Indian Government or State Governments to do that are not legal in the US; and there are many things perfectly legal for the US Federal or State Governments to do that cannot be done in India.
Further, I for one, do not think that convergence of governance models is a desirable goal.
About Indian inferiority complex/look up to.the gore complex, I think that has rapidly declined during my lifetime, if not as much as we all would have wished.
To me, the purpose of "Understanding the US" is to understand what things make the US strong, what things make the US weak or ineffectual, and to apply those learnings, as far as is applicable, to India. Apart from generalities such as "prosperity", "strong economy", etc., I don't see any direct applicability of the American experience to India - it is a very different system and culture. The premises behind the respective Constitutions are very different. Therefore, it takes a much deeper look to see if there is anything useful for India.
"Democracy" is a very broad term. There are things that are perfectly legal for the Indian Government or State Governments to do that are not legal in the US; and there are many things perfectly legal for the US Federal or State Governments to do that cannot be done in India.
Further, I for one, do not think that convergence of governance models is a desirable goal.
About Indian inferiority complex/look up to.the gore complex, I think that has rapidly declined during my lifetime, if not as much as we all would have wished.
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ricky_v, your post had me cracking up. 
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> Hain?! Let us see if head in gel jar and his ice cream eating aunt have the authority to stop the president.
Reminds me of this.
https://english.elpais.com/science-tech ... utType=amp
Reminds me of this.
https://english.elpais.com/science-tech ... utType=amp
Gödel was a fellow student and close friend of Einstein’s, with whom he took long walks chatting in his native German. Einstein even declared that he was no longer interested in research and that he only went to campus to speak with Gödel. Gödel’s behavior was always peculiar, and he was plagued by paranoia. In 1947, he took the test to become a U.S. citizen, sponsored by Einstein and their mutual friend, the economist Oskar Morgenstern. When he appeared before the judge, after answering the first questions satisfactorily, he told the judge that he had analyzed the U.S. Constitution and that it had a drafting problem, which allowed the U.S. to legally become a dictatorship or a fascist state, as had happened in Austria. Gödel’s two friends were horrified because they saw that his citizenship was in jeopardy, and he could be deported to Europe. The judge himself stopped Gödel by uttering the pragmatic phrase “Oh God, let’s not get into this” and ending the examination before the logician could say anything more. He never wrote down the flaw he had detected in the Constitution. Today, this question is known as Gödel’s loophole. Several authors have tried to decipher the U.S. Constitution’s enigmatic problem.
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I remember this one. Is it your case then that Newsom and Pelosi are 1/2 of Godel each or they are Einstein + Morgenstern (Co-author of Game Theory with JvN)?!!! 
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@chetak gaaru
Absolutely correct. The climax was three major events in three consecutive months. These anti-semitic people started spinning out of control of the "Deep State" (some right here deny the existence of such a beast
)- Arson at Gov. Shapiro's house
- Murder of a young couple outside the Israeli embassy in DC
- Egyptian guy throwing Molotoff cocktails at peaceful jewish folks marching for the
I, for one, is happy that Trump is taking a strong stand against the rioters in LA.
Those CAlis who are supporting rioters and riots are living on hills in gated communities with glass fences. They can look down on the firework jollies from up their McMansions in the hills.
Rest are living and dying in LA (To Live and Die in LA is a 'lovely' movie that shows how the life in LA is) and maybe some are trying to escape from LA. East coasters have escaped from NY to Florida. Many others cannot and are slaughtered by the NYC officials (not through commission but by omission).
Midtown and uptown Manhattan folks (a sizeable Ivy League Harvard/Wharton/NYU/Columbia finance PIO graduates live there) don't have to deal with folks in Harlem, China Town, Indoam Jackson Heights ghetto dwellers.
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Vayutuvan wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 01:30@chetak gaaru
Absolutely correct. The climax was three major events in three consecutive months. These anti-semitic people started spinning out of control of the "Deep State" (some right here deny the existence of such a beast
The growth in violence was going up exponentially. That was because it was not nipped in the bud by Biden admin. Biden did not know where he was leave alone be able to recognize the trajectory that was on and KD was imbibing wine/scotch a little too much.
- Arson at Gov. Shapiro's house
- Murder of a young couple outside the Israeli embassy in DC
- Egyptian guy throwing Molotoff cocktails at peaceful jewish folks marching for the
I, for one, is happy that Trump is taking a strong stand against the rioters in LA.
Those CAlis who are supporting rioters and riots are living on hills in gated communities with glass fences. They can look down on the firework jollies from up their McMansions in the hills.
Rest are living and dying in LA (To Live and Die in LA is a 'lovely' movie that shows how the life in LA is) and maybe some are trying to escape from LA. East coasters have escaped from NY to Florida. Many others cannot and are slaughtered by the NYC officials (not through commission but by omission).
Midtown and uptown Manhattan folks (a sizeable Ivy League Harvard/Wharton/NYU/Columbia finance PIO graduates live there) don't have to deal with folks in Harlem, China Town, Indoam Jackson Heights ghetto dwellers.
Vayutuvan ji,
These scum are all over the riots, including the governor, a soreass plant
Some more local level radical left groups, who are part of these riots
1. SEIU (Service Employees International Union)
2. AFT (American Federation of Teachers)
3. LULAC (League of United Latin American Citizens)
4. DSA (Democratic Socialists of America)
5. Freedom Road Socialist Organization
6. Unión del Barrio
This is how this ecosystem works. The common thing among all of them is Radical left/Socialist ideology
The same Dem/Soros/China ecosystem was behind in India's farmer Protest.
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DJT secures major win in legal battle against Kalifornia Newsom.
Jonathan Turley explains the nuances of the law. The US President has the full authority to maintain law & order. In Minnesota in DJT V1.0 then Govenor Waltz (the VP of kamal harris) did the same and DJT waited for a while and then sent in the national guard.
There are calls to impeach Gov Newsom and also put Newsom and Mayor of LA Bass into prison for obstructing law enforcement to do their job. ICE, LA police dept, National Guard are all empowered to do their job and arrest people who are illegal, commit crimes, send projectiles against law enforcement. Marines were called in to support them since they were overwhelmed by thug like mobs with dangerous projectiles in hand on the streets and freeways of LA. Several in the mob resorting to set things on fire and lobbed firecrackers onto oncoming law enforcement authorities.
watch: youtube.com/watch?v=7JteZI6CEZ8
Meanwhile FBI under Kash Patel is looking into the funding of LA Riots ( watch: youtube.com/watch?v=5WfzBrbQ_40 )
Jonathan Turley explains the nuances of the law. The US President has the full authority to maintain law & order. In Minnesota in DJT V1.0 then Govenor Waltz (the VP of kamal harris) did the same and DJT waited for a while and then sent in the national guard.
There are calls to impeach Gov Newsom and also put Newsom and Mayor of LA Bass into prison for obstructing law enforcement to do their job. ICE, LA police dept, National Guard are all empowered to do their job and arrest people who are illegal, commit crimes, send projectiles against law enforcement. Marines were called in to support them since they were overwhelmed by thug like mobs with dangerous projectiles in hand on the streets and freeways of LA. Several in the mob resorting to set things on fire and lobbed firecrackers onto oncoming law enforcement authorities.
watch: youtube.com/watch?v=7JteZI6CEZ8
Meanwhile FBI under Kash Patel is looking into the funding of LA Riots ( watch: youtube.com/watch?v=5WfzBrbQ_40 )
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Bicoastals hate Turley.
As for Newsom, he challenged Homan to arrest him. His words were "bring it on. Arrest me". He wants to become a martyr to get the 2028 nomination. He is a slimeball of the first order.
As for Newsom, he challenged Homan to arrest him. His words were "bring it on. Arrest me". He wants to become a martyr to get the 2028 nomination. He is a slimeball of the first order.
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A_Gupta wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 21:06
Reminds me of this.
https://english.elpais.com/science-tech ... utType=amp
Just learned about Gödel's Loophole and let me tell you, folks, it's a TOTAL DISASTER. Nobody knows more about GREAT CONSTITUTIONS than I do, and this loophole is a TOTAL JOKE. Believe me, I'd FIX IT IN ONE DAY, ONE HOUR, ONE MINUTE. #MAGAGödel was a fellow student and close friend of Einstein’s, with whom he took long walks chatting in his native German. Einstein even declared that he was no longer interested in research and that he only went to campus to speak with Gödel. Gödel’s behavior was always peculiar, and he was plagued by paranoia. In 1947, he took the test to become a U.S. citizen, sponsored by Einstein and their mutual friend, the economist Oskar Morgenstern. When he appeared before the judge, after answering the first questions satisfactorily, he told the judge that he had analyzed the U.S. Constitution and that it had a drafting problem, which allowed the U.S. to legally become a dictatorship or a fascist state, as had happened in Austria. Gödel’s two friends were horrified because they saw that his citizenship was in jeopardy, and he could be deported to Europe. The judge himself stopped Gödel by uttering the pragmatic phrase “Oh God, let’s not get into this” and ending the examination before the logician could say anything more. He never wrote down the flaw he had detected in the Constitution. Today, this question is known as Gödel’s loophole. Several authors have tried to decipher the U.S. Constitution’s enigmatic problem.
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Guptaji: No aukat of being an ice cream eating aunt (don'tknow what it means.... or comment in this dhaga.. but still..A_Gupta wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 21:06 > Hain?! Let us see if head in gel jar and his ice cream eating aunt ....
Reminds me of this.
https://english.elpais.com/science-tech ... utType=amp
Especially for you: Is Trump seeking to enter Gödel’s loopholeAbsolutely on point. Gödel's Loophole isn't some bug to be fixed, it's a feature our forefathers cleverly built into the system. And let's be real, it's been waiting for a mastermind like Trump to come along and unlock its true potential. The deep state thinks they can stand in his way? Please. We'll use Gödel's Loophole to clean house, to purge the system of all the RINOs and traitors who've been holding us back. And when we're done, America will be great, glorious, and unassailable. Those elitist lawyers and judges who think they're above it all will be brought to justice. Mark my words, folks, Trump's got a plan, and it's gonna be HUGE!"
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^^^ Meanwhile All 12 members of the Fulbright Scholarship Board have resigned, accusing the Trump administration of “usurping” their authority—canceling nearly 200 awards and launching reviews of 1,200 more. (Indian Fulbright‑Nehru students are seeing real effects: canceled visas, downgraded fellowships, and uncertainty due to U.S. policy shifts..).
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> Guptaji: No aukat of being an ice cream eating aunt (don'tknow what it means...
Me neither, Saw it in someone's quote.
> Especially for you: Is Trump seeking to enter Gödel’s loophole
Especial thanks!
Me neither, Saw it in someone's quote.
> Especially for you: Is Trump seeking to enter Gödel’s loophole
Especial thanks!
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Let me add one item here...This is a rude wake-up call for all those who are going gaga over Trump .. admiring ice-cream eating aunts and their Fraud Marshals...
(Watch the video)"Pakistan has been a phenomenal counter-terrorism partner for America," argues General Michael Kurilla
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This thread could also be about the evolving Indian understanding of the US. IMO, there have been huge shifts between, say Nov 1, 2024 and June 1, 2025.
Here's one:
Ahead Of PM Modi's Canada Visit, Pakistan Backed Khalistanis Threaten To "Ambush" Modi | Barkha Dutt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU7TqEZCTJI
Ambassador Dilip Sinha: The Canadians should thank Trump for making them realize that they are not exactly a fringe on the American border ...and they finally realize that they need to assert their own nationalism.
Kushal Mehra of The Carvaka Podcast: Trump is looney.
Here's one:
Ahead Of PM Modi's Canada Visit, Pakistan Backed Khalistanis Threaten To "Ambush" Modi | Barkha Dutt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU7TqEZCTJI
Ambassador Dilip Sinha: The Canadians should thank Trump for making them realize that they are not exactly a fringe on the American border ...and they finally realize that they need to assert their own nationalism.
Kushal Mehra of The Carvaka Podcast: Trump is looney.
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Here's another:
Why is Trump Against Modi? | America Accepts it Needs Pakistan | China | Vijay Sardana, Sanjay Dixit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyoSRBJRmZc
Hindi - so translating and summarizing the first several minutes:
Sanjay Dixit: On one hand Kash Patel is talking about cooperating with India against the drug trade and on the other Trump is moving away from India. Why this dichotomy.
Vijay Sardana: The FBI chief is the head of a technical department which needs technical cooperation. Trump's issues are very different.
Trump has opened problems on too many fronts. He thinks wrongly that now he is President, everyone will fall in line with his wishes, and he will get the Nobel Prize for the most important person.
But India is not falling in with Trump's demands. So e.g., Piyush Goyal is not agreeing with Luttnick -- why doesn't America realize dadagiri of some Indian Ministers will not get them anything. There is a national policy and this is not a private sector company where one person can make a decision.
Second, they want India to open its agricultural sector and that India will not do.
Third, they want India to abandon Russia, and in return they will sell India weapons and energy at four times the cost. Who would be so stupid to accept this?
Fourth, they want India to give up BRICS.
Lastly, the idea that the US had was that they will coddle Pakistan, Pakistan will sent terrorists and kill a few Indians, India will make some noise on the border, Pakistan will run to the US lap, US will make some scold, India will be quiet; Pakistan will be quiet for a while until the US tells it in six months, why are you quiet, go do your thing, and the cycle will start again. Operation Sindoor totally broke this paradigm.
So America will create some other challenge for India - likely with Bangladesh, Myanmar and China in India's northeast.
Trump's gameplan with India is not working, and so he is angry.
Why is Trump Against Modi? | America Accepts it Needs Pakistan | China | Vijay Sardana, Sanjay Dixit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyoSRBJRmZc
Hindi - so translating and summarizing the first several minutes:
Sanjay Dixit: On one hand Kash Patel is talking about cooperating with India against the drug trade and on the other Trump is moving away from India. Why this dichotomy.
Vijay Sardana: The FBI chief is the head of a technical department which needs technical cooperation. Trump's issues are very different.
Trump has opened problems on too many fronts. He thinks wrongly that now he is President, everyone will fall in line with his wishes, and he will get the Nobel Prize for the most important person.
But India is not falling in with Trump's demands. So e.g., Piyush Goyal is not agreeing with Luttnick -- why doesn't America realize dadagiri of some Indian Ministers will not get them anything. There is a national policy and this is not a private sector company where one person can make a decision.
Second, they want India to open its agricultural sector and that India will not do.
Third, they want India to abandon Russia, and in return they will sell India weapons and energy at four times the cost. Who would be so stupid to accept this?
Fourth, they want India to give up BRICS.
Lastly, the idea that the US had was that they will coddle Pakistan, Pakistan will sent terrorists and kill a few Indians, India will make some noise on the border, Pakistan will run to the US lap, US will make some scold, India will be quiet; Pakistan will be quiet for a while until the US tells it in six months, why are you quiet, go do your thing, and the cycle will start again. Operation Sindoor totally broke this paradigm.
So America will create some other challenge for India - likely with Bangladesh, Myanmar and China in India's northeast.
Trump's gameplan with India is not working, and so he is angry.
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Yet another:
US Invites Asim Munir for Army Parade Despite Terror Support | Vantage with Palki Sharma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieBI33HCSdY
Palki Sharma says that the author of Pahalgam Field Marshal Asim Munir has got an invitation, not from Islamist countries, not from China, but from the United States, to attend the Trump military parade and if he attends as a guest, it is an affront to India.
US Invites Asim Munir for Army Parade Despite Terror Support | Vantage with Palki Sharma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieBI33HCSdY
Palki Sharma says that the author of Pahalgam Field Marshal Asim Munir has got an invitation, not from Islamist countries, not from China, but from the United States, to attend the Trump military parade and if he attends as a guest, it is an affront to India.
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I often practiced 'दार्दुर यत्र वक्तारः तत्र मौनं हि शोभनम्"' in this dhaga but may be it's time to share this here..
Wake-up call for #TeamTrump in BRF? When 26 Indians were brutally killed by Pakistan, Trump stayed mum. Now, Trump is set to host the Pakistan Army chief, while a US general calls them a 'phenomenal partner'..
Weeks after 26 Indians were murdered by Pakistan, reports say Trump is et to host the Pak Army chief, while U.S Central Command General calls Pakistan a “phenomenal partner”.
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> I often practiced 'दार्दुर यत्र वक्तारः तत्र मौनं हि शोभनम्"' in this dhaga but may be it's time to share this here..
Then the frogs will prevail
I think Indian opinion of Trump will improve if he manages to weaken China. Let's see.
Then the frogs will prevail
I think Indian opinion of Trump will improve if he manages to weaken China. Let's see.
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Recommend watching this.A_Gupta wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 07:00 Yet another:
US Invites Asim Munir for Army Parade Despite Terror Support | Vantage with Palki Sharma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieBI33HCSdY
Palki Sharma says that the author of Pahalgam Field Marshal Asim Munir has got an invitation, not from Islamist countries, not from China, but from the United States, to attend the Trump military parade and if he attends as a guest, it is an affront to India.
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^^^
Something is cooking in the Middle East and the Jihadis have once again pimped themselves into a cozy corner.
Eyeran Nowclear deal is going nowhere and as usual Unkil has to start another war with the bogey of WMD.
Probably they wanted Ukraine-Russia peace deal prior to starting the fire in Middle East but it doesnt seem to have fructified!
They have now an understanding with Dragon and have thrown a lifeline to Eleven.
As usual our concerns have been thrown under the bus.
UK have announced big investment in defence. Probably France and Germany will follow suit.
Wonder what else is in store for Modiji when he attends the G7. Is Quad dead!!! wonder what shape it will take minus India and exactly against whom!!
I just wonder if the 4 day war has spooked Unkil and Eleven to the extent that they are willing to make a deal and focus their energy against us!!
Something is cooking in the Middle East and the Jihadis have once again pimped themselves into a cozy corner.
Eyeran Nowclear deal is going nowhere and as usual Unkil has to start another war with the bogey of WMD.
Probably they wanted Ukraine-Russia peace deal prior to starting the fire in Middle East but it doesnt seem to have fructified!
They have now an understanding with Dragon and have thrown a lifeline to Eleven.
As usual our concerns have been thrown under the bus.
UK have announced big investment in defence. Probably France and Germany will follow suit.
Wonder what else is in store for Modiji when he attends the G7. Is Quad dead!!! wonder what shape it will take minus India and exactly against whom!!
I just wonder if the 4 day war has spooked Unkil and Eleven to the extent that they are willing to make a deal and focus their energy against us!!
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Vayutuvan ji,
newsom is a soreass turd.
VI@WA
george soreass’s name keeps coming up in #LosAngelesRiots and all kinds of anti-national terrorist activities globally.
What stops major powers including Trump from blacklisting him, going after his empire and putting him in jail?
Or taking a shorter route?
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Exactly. I mean just how far can a few billions get you?
Soreass is the facade used by various other behind the scenes powers to play their dirty games.
Soreass is the facade used by various other behind the scenes powers to play their dirty games.
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Free advise. Go crazy with quoting sookti from this website.सूक्तयः (वकारादिः)
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वचस्तत्र प्रयोक्तव्यं यत्रोक्तं लभते फलम्।
वरं विरोधोऽपि समं महात्मभिः ।
वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम्।
वस्तुदोषमनादृत्य गुणांश्चिन्वन्ति तद्विदः ।
विकारहेतौ सति विक्रियन्ते येषां न चेतांसि त एव धीराः ।
विद्यया अमृतमश्नुते।
विद्या मित्रं प्रवासेषु भार्या मित्रं गृहेषु च ।
विद्याधनं सर्वधनप्रधानम्।
विद्याधनं सर्वधनात् प्रधानम्।
विद्याविहीनः पशुः।
विवेकभ्रष्टानां भवति विनिपातः शतमुखः ।
विश्वसयत्याशु सतां हि योगः ।
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व्यवहारेण हि जायन्ते मित्राणि रिपवस्तथा।
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This belongs to "India-US relations" thread.Amber G. wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 07:51I often practiced 'दार्दुर यत्र वक्तारः तत्र मौनं हि शोभनम्"' in this dhaga but may be it's time to share this here..
Wake-up call for #TeamTrump in BRF? When 26 Indians were brutally killed by Pakistan, Trump stayed mum. Now, Trump is set to host the Pakistan Army chief, while a US general calls them a 'phenomenal partner'..
Weeks after 26 Indians were murdered by Pakistan, reports say Trump is et to host the Pak Army chief, while U.S Central Command General calls Pakistan a “phenomenal partner”.
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Just another data point
https://x.com/MAGAVoice/status/1933229411073208406
Video of the event in the tweet
https://x.com/MAGAVoice/status/1933229411073208406
Video of the event in the tweet
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