CalvinH wrote:The data proving that peacefuls vote was consolidated to one party is a good news. Because even with that unprecedented consolidation that party lost by good margin. Means Peacefuls vote can only take one so far.
For how long though ? One only has to keep their eyes open in any state/city/town/neighborhood/supermarket in India to see the changing demographics, the shantidoot population explosion is conspicuous . There was some news recently how INC ecosystem has taken a seat by seat analysis of all constituencies both at state level and at national level to see how demographics affects electoral outcomes. If you have 30% shantidoot population in a particular constituency, you can pretty much guarantee the election outcome based on the hindu caste makeup and/or importing shantidoots from outside. This is why there is a strategic resettlement of bangladeshis and rohingyas in certain states/cities. They will continue to do this until hindus lose all power, Kashmir, parts of WB, UP and Assam are prime examples of such a experiment.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 22 Mar 2022 23:30
by Rampy
V_Raman wrote:The true message from these elections is that IM consolidation even at 100% is not enough. So PK talks about 41% Hindus who did not vote for BJP. BJP has to get more Hindu vote % for 2024 unless Hindus vote differently for national election ??
There was good analysis of this, what PK is saying is half truth. Yes 41% did not vote for BJP but who did they vote SP, BSP, DMK, AAP and Congress. So even if they consolidate the BJP share does not come down. Question is why would SP or BSP cross vote for Congress?
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 22 Mar 2022 23:50
by V_Raman
true - we also need an opposition that is perceived as united to get majority of this 41% - a tall order to achieve. but bjp has its task cut out - retain its share and attract as much as possible from this 41% - to make any consolidation irrelevant.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 00:23
by vimal
Kashmir Files has opened the eyes of a lot of folks. I won’t be surprised if that will make some positive impact.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 00:27
by isubodh
vimal wrote:Kashmir Files has opened the eyes of a lot of folks. I won’t be surprised if that will make some positive impact.
It will be forgotten in a month or so. Saw a Sikh with a play card " Ban Kashmir files". Just few months back Sikhs were running away from Afghanistan due to same slogan convert, run or die. Too short a public memory
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 02:06
by Vips
We need movies on killing of Hindus by Tipu Sultan, of Hindus killed in Kerala (Muplah), killings in Bengal under Mamta rule, of Sikhs in Delhi in 1984 and make sure these are ready for release between June of 2023 to March of 2024.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 02:14
by chetak
the scum responsible are not accountable for their selfish greed, inflated egos, and sheer malevolence
and the people who paid the terrible price are voiceless
is there any other country in the world with as many traitors as India
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 02:23
by vimal
isubodh wrote:
vimal wrote:Kashmir Files has opened the eyes of a lot of folks. I won’t be surprised if that will make some positive impact.
It will be forgotten in a month or so. Saw a Sikh with a play card " Ban Kashmir files". Just few months back Sikhs were running away from Afghanistan due to same slogan convert, run or die. Too short a public memory
When was the last time Sikhs voted for BJP?
So this will be more for Hindu voters only.
The Mahanlingeshwar Temple in the Puttur district of Karnataka has restricted the auction of temporary stalls to the Hindu community for the annual Jatra festival to be held in the city. The Annual Jatra festival which will be held in the temple precinct between April 10 to 20 will only Hindus to set up their shops during the ten days.
The Temple administration put out a notice dated March 19, 2022, in the English daily The Hindu to announce the same. In a similar tone, the organising committee of the Kote Marikamba Jatra in Shivamogga had decided to allow only Hindu shopkeepers to set up their shops during the five-day festival beginning on March 22. This move came after Hindu organisations requested the committee to take the decision in the light of the murder of Hindu activist Harsha who was killed by radical Islamists in Shivamogga.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 03:26
by chetak
afghanistan's finest and prime ministerial pipe dreams
Chetakji
Did not Shantidhoots go to court and win against such Temple edicts??
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 12:29
by Tanaji
They did but that case was for long term contracts, not sure if the ruling is applicable in such cases and even if it did, by the time it gets challenged and courts hear the case the festival will be over
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 12:42
by chetak
@RShivshankar·22 Mar
Big disclosure on withdrawn 3 farm laws. SC panel member leaks report that Apex court sat on for unknown reason. Report shows that by backing Singhu farmers Opposition denied 87% of India's farmers who backed Modi's reform push a chance to double their incomes. What a shame!
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 12:42
by Pratyush
If the temple management is not under the state control. Then the temples have the freedom to decide who can recieve contracts for the stalls.
Alternatively, such stall can simply be boycotted.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 12:43
by Pratyush
chetak wrote:
@RShivshankar·22 Mar
Big disclosure on withdrawn 3 farm laws. SC panel member leaks report that Apex court sat on for unknown reason. Report shows that by backing Singhu farmers Opposition denied 87% of India's farmers who backed Modi's reform push a chance to double their incomes. What a shame!
This is how consent is manufactured. Too bad it was not done during the period of agitation.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 13:12
by Yagnasri
Rsatchi wrote:
Chetakji
Did not Shantidhoots go to court and win against such Temple edicts??[/quote]
That is in the case of Srisailam Temple. HC of AP stayed in favour of momos.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 13:18
by Tanaji
Yagnasri wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:
Chetakji
Did not Shantidhoots go to court and win against such Temple edicts??
That is in the case of Srisailam Temple. HC of AP stayed in favour of momos.
It was not HC but the Supreme Court with Justice Chandrachud
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 13:19
by chetak
Pratyush wrote:
chetak wrote:
This is how consent is manufactured. Too bad it was not done during the period of agitation.
venal match fixers and traitors of the nation, one and all
When laws were withdrawn, the jolt and disappointment was writ large on the faces of yy, tikait, Left, and many opposition parties. They were planning to squat on the dilli borders till 2024 but like bolt from the blue, repeal came as a 1000 volts shock. And here's the admission from horse's mouth
How bluntly yy is admitting that the "farmer's" protest was to a conspiracy to beat the BJP in the coming UP elections.
Yogendra Yadav Admits Farmers' Protest 'Political Pitch' Created To Defeat BJP In Elections
Wasn't the "farmer's" protest was a non political agenda for the benefit of farmers?
When did the agenda of elections and winning one come into the picture.
The fact that the target is the BJP, should speak volumes of the planned BIF conspiracy and the ease with which khujliwal slotted into the strategy should be probed as he is more than complicit in the proceedings
Farm Laws Disclosure | Kisan Leaders Doubts The Findings Of The SC-Appointed Panel
where was it mentioned that the "farmers" approval was necessary for the SC's report to be "accepted"......
many parties involved in these fraudulent exercises are manifestly guilty by their acts of omission and commission and especially dirty are the interfering and agenda driven hands of two grasping and overreaching "pillars of democracy"
After the massive disclosure concerning the farm laws, the farmer leaders are in denial mode.
As per the reports of the panel appointed by the Supreme Court to deal with the farm laws, that were repealed back by the central government, it was found out that 87% of the farmers were backing the laws, while only 13% had raised concerns over this.
However, the Farmer Union leaders have denied accepting the report and have raised questions over the same instead of accepting this.
Speaking to Times Now over this, Yogendra Yadav called the reports of the panel 'laughably bogus' while questioning the same.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 13:39
by Aditya_V
You forget the most important point- Foreign NGO's -Foreign Citizen NRI - Canada, EU, UK based NGO's were involved in the protest. Talk about interfering in Indian Elections.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 13:46
by chetak
Aditya_V wrote:You forget the most important point- Foreign NGO's -Foreign Citizen NRI - Canada, EU, UK based NGO's were involved in the protest. Talk about interfering in Indian Elections.
Indeed, Aditya_V ji
you are right onlee
hyena haleem yadav is being set up as the khujliwal v2.0
time to politically pulverize this creep along with fatso dakait
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 14:09
by Sachin
Rsatchi wrote:Did not Shantidhoots go to court and win against such Temple edicts??
Tanaji wrote:They did but that case was for long term contracts, not sure if the ruling is applicable in such cases and even if it did, by the time it gets challenged and courts hear the case the festival will be over
Pratyush wrote:If the temple management is not under the state control. Then the temples have the freedom to decide who can recieve contracts for the stalls.
What I have noticed in the case of big temple festivals is that there would be some big trade fair kind of thing which happens for a couple of days or weeks. This is a temporary adjustment. A small group of people (or even one person), gets the entire fair ground through an auction process. Then he sub-lets pieces of the land to various group of traders, joy ride operators etc. The temple management neatly off-loads the responsibility to the person(s) who took the contract for any eventuality. These person(s) generally would also be outright rowdies or people with muscle power who can take the expected revenue from the folks who run smaller establishments in the fair grounds.
In the case of the temple in Karnataka the fair ground tender was taken by the usual person who gets it. When his intention to sublet to shantidoots was known, few Hindu organisations approached him and asked him to stop it. He did not budge, so the Hindu organisations made a better quote for the tender and took it over. And then they declared it to be a shantidoot-free zone. There would not be much point in approaching courts as the group who won the tender can run the show.
Where shantidoots generally win is in case of temples which are managed by state government controlled entitities which are managed by seculars or aetheists-frauds as seen in states like KL. Here these temple management are hand in glove with shantidoots as they have a common goal of looting Hindu devotees/believers.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 15:23
by Yagnasri
It is awful that the GoI failed to fight the intense information war in the case of farm laws, as PM admitted. The problem of too much dependence on the PM in every area is now showing. The ministry has much deadwood. While that is true for most administrations, there are huge expectations for this administration. There is a need for ministers to step up.
BJP as a political party also failed to mobilise people's support for farms laws. Social Media cell does almost nothing other than those who failed the purity test, i.e. total loyalty to BJP. Even in such laws, which would have transformed the rural economy and changed the lives of millions for the better, there is no help from the party to its government. They expect NM to win the elections for them without doing anything from their side.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 17:37
by Ambar
The farm reforms ship has sailed. Neither BJP nor any other political party will touch the agro reforms anytime soon now or in future. What surprises me though is the lack of interest in forming CAA rules. Even after 2+ years since the bill turned into an act the rules are yet to be formed, the centre has extended rule making timeline by 6 times now. First it was covid, then it was "operation kamala" in MH and Kar, then we were told rules will be formed after Assam and WB elections and here we are in 2022 with no progress on CAA. Like i said back then the govt could have just improved the administration by speeding up the legalization of sikh and hindu refugees instead of cobbling together yet another act.
Euromaida style color revolution coming to India. Regime change is on the cards.
India is the next Ukraine… staging ground for America’s next war against China.
Under Secretary Victoria Nuland
@UnderSecStateP Great to be in New Delhi today to engage with the next generation of Indian thought leaders. We discussed continued #USIndia collaboration and India’s vital leadership role in the world.
Political Dissident @BasedKashyap07
So Victoria Nuland (नूलंड) didi has arrived on our beautiful soil. Let's check some of her previous achievements. Small thread.
1. Nuland engineered Ukraine’s “regime change” in early 2014 without weighing the likely chaos and consequences.
Under Secretary Victoria Nuland
@UnderSecStateP Good conversation with @NDTV's @Nidhi
Razdan about the strengthen of the U.S.-India partnership, Russia’s war in Ukraine, and the challenge of China. https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1506217148473315338
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 18:34
by Yagnasri
Py-ops on Bharat like this are not going to help the cause of the US. In fact if anything they are going to backfire on them.
I failed to see why our MEA meeting a low-level official like her. Do our low-level officials also get such meetings when they visit gora countries? I do not think so. We need not do this thing.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 18:36
by Lisa
Amazing woke silence when burka is banned from all schools in Afghanistan.
Yagnasri wrote:Py-ops on Bharat like this are not going to help the cause of the US. In fact if anything they are going to backfire on them.
I failed to see why our MEA meeting a low-level official like her. Do our low-level officials also get such meetings when they visit gora countries? I do not think so. We need not do this thing.
whole thread ... looks like she met NDTV Nidhi, Karuna Nundy and BJP youth leader Charu Pragya too ...
This is not just psy-ops. In addition to psy-ops this is on the ground review of post "polls" scenario.
We need to start doing this.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 20:50
by vijayk
GShankar wrote:This is not just psy-ops. In addition to psy-ops this is on the ground review of post "polls" scenario.
We need to start doing this.
They come and talk to 5-star activists ... try to see what can be done to create havoc ... I think they sense new CJI can be used to create a lot of trouble starting this November.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 20:55
by Sachin
Ban on Muslim traders in temples: Karnataka government keeps distance, cites rules
So it is hitting where it hurts badly. As a trading community shantidoots will find things tough if the larger society who forms their customer base starts ignoring them. Other groups can still use all other means to dissuade people from visiting the shops of shantidoots. No government will be able to form a law that people have to do business with certain shops only.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 21:01
by rsingh
Lisa wrote:Amazing woke silence when burka is banned from all schools in Afghanistan.
Read it again.It is not about burka. burka and hijab are not enough for Talibs
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 21:50
by CalvinH
isubodh wrote:
vimal wrote:Kashmir Files has opened the eyes of a lot of folks. I won’t be surprised if that will make some positive impact.
It will be forgotten in a month or so. Saw a Sikh with a play card " Ban Kashmir files". Just few months back Sikhs were running away from Afghanistan due to same slogan convert, run or die. Too short a public memory
That will always happen. For any nationalistic issue. There will always be that one person with a placard.
It can't balance Millions who showed up to watch Kashmir files with little promotion and are still doing so. However one wishes or media tries to portray. India is turning a corner and success of Kashmir files is one indication.
Impact of things like Kashmir files is slow and fundamental. And its happening. If you expect a revolution from it in one month and absence of such revolution is taken as a "we are hopeless", feel free to do so. We have reached this point slowly but surely and after hundreds of such "expected" let downs as per the crowd who has little understanding of what is happening.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 22:33
by vijayk
CalvinH wrote:
isubodh wrote:
It will be forgotten in a month or so. Saw a Sikh with a play card " Ban Kashmir files". Just few months back Sikhs were running away from Afghanistan due to same slogan convert, run or die. Too short a public memory
That will always happen. For any nationalistic issue. There will always be that one person with a placard.
It can't balance Millions who showed up to watch Kashmir files with little promotion and are still doing so. However one wishes or media tries to portray. India is turning a corner and success of Kashmir files is one indication.
Impact of things like Kashmir files is slow and fundamental. And its happening. If you expect a revolution from it in one month and absence of such revolution is taken as a "we are hopeless", feel free to do so. We have reached this point slowly but surely and after hundreds of such "expected" let downs as per the crowd who has little understanding of what is happening.
Agree ... SHQ and her friend went to see the move. Came home crying and swollen eyes.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 22:36
by chetak
Sachin wrote:Ban on Muslim traders in temples: Karnataka government keeps distance, cites rules
So it is hitting where it hurts badly. As a trading community shantidoots will find things tough if the larger society who forms their customer base starts ignoring them. Other groups can still use all other means to dissuade people from visiting the shops of shantidoots. No government will be able to form a law that people have to do business with certain shops only.
post godhra, the gujaratis' boycotted them to such an extent that the jehadis shaved off their facial fungus, displayed Ganesha in autos and taxis, kept their heads low and avoided any grandstand play of ola et uber
it hit them right in the batwa where it hurts them the most.
but as is usual with the Hindus, they quickly forgot and went about their daily business but they haven't forgotten and fear that it will happen again on other places and spread much wider
and that boycott phase had really put the fear of god into the community
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 22:48
by chetak
CalvinH wrote:
isubodh wrote:
It will be forgotten in a month or so. Saw a Sikh with a play card " Ban Kashmir files". Just few months back Sikhs were running away from Afghanistan due to same slogan convert, run or die. Too short a public memory
That will always happen. For any nationalistic issue. There will always be that one person with a placard.
It can't balance Millions who showed up to watch Kashmir files with little promotion and are still doing so. However one wishes or media tries to portray. India is turning a corner and success of Kashmir files is one indication.
Impact of things like Kashmir files is slow and fundamental. And its happening. If you expect a revolution from it in one month and absence of such revolution is taken as a "we are hopeless", feel free to do so. We have reached this point slowly but surely and after hundreds of such "expected" let downs as per the crowd who has little understanding of what is happening.
while many are looking for instantaneous reactions, the powers that be are setting in motion a mass awakening that cannot be stopped because it is growing organically
see what has happened in TN after a live wire Hindu leader like Annamalai made his entry. Cast in the mold of Modi, yogi and others willing to sacrifice for the good of the community, his rise has been no less than meteoric.
An honest cop fighting the system, wanting to right the wrongs and help the common people secure their rights and make their livelihoods, is straight out of a tamil hit movie.
TKF foretells the very real and possible future of the Hindus at the hands of the dravidians and that is not lost on anyone.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Mar 2022 22:51
by Lisa
rsingh wrote:
Lisa wrote:Amazing woke silence when burka is banned from all schools in Afghanistan.
Manishji
He once admitted in an interview I think that the company (from Paxtan)submitted lowest bid for the old machine!!
But worst thing was they bought the paper from the same company supplying pakis.
Now the pakis had the genuine machine and the paper so they could print as much Rs500 notes as they wanted.
