Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 04 Jul 2013 20:02

+ 1 ^^

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 04 Jul 2013 20:06

LK Advani vetoes Narendra Modi's plan to bring Yeddyurappa back to BJP - http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/lk-a ... 86855.html

Party sources said Advani is strongly opposed to Yeddyurappa's return and would prefer a loss in the election to a tainted politics.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 04 Jul 2013 20:08

Rudradev wrote:
This is what Rudradev ji is celebrating -
LOL. Taking your cues from NDTV Pranav ji? They too keep flashing photos of Ishrat Jehan's face followed by the encounter vehicle, in the hope that simple minded Aam Aadmi log will remember the pictures and forget the facts

The facts, meanwhile are that any time the Congress trash and Kejriwal trash start eliminating each other, it's a win-win for India

What is the problem? I was just telling folks why you broke out into a celebration.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 04 Jul 2013 20:15

panduranghari wrote: I really do wonder, what does Khujliwal offers that Modi can not offer? I hope Pranav Ji will answer this question.

One needs to re-imagine the architecture of governance, which includes systemic reforms to deter corruption as well as decentralization, participative democracy.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 04 Jul 2013 20:25

jagga wrote:We are not hawala operators, say Mumbai's Angadias

In fact, being an alternative to hawala is likely what got them in trouble. UPA has been increasing red tape for transactions through official channels such that hawala becomes the more convenient channel.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 04 Jul 2013 20:29

Pranav wrote:LK Advani vetoes Narendra Modi's plan to bring Yeddyurappa back to BJP - http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/lk-a ... 86855.html

Party sources said Advani is strongly opposed to Yeddyurappa's return and would prefer a loss in the election to a tainted politics.

How chweet... exactly what swamyg wants, turns out... a loss is preferable to realism/pragmatism. IMO, BSY is a good opportunity to help LKA smell the coffee regarding his (lack of) writ in the BJP...

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 04 Jul 2013 20:43

somebody posted somewhere in private

कुछ बातें समझ नही आई..... आप मदद करें....??

10 करोड़ रूपये ले जाने के लिए चार ट्रकों की जरूरत क्यों पड़ी जबकि इतने पैसे तो चार सूटकेस में आसानी से आ जाता फिर इतना झंझट क्यों किया....??

10 करोड़ रूपये गिनने के लिए दस मशीनें क्यों मंगाई गयी जबकि इतना पैसा तो कोई भी व्यक्ति अकेले गिन सकता है....??

10 करोड़ रूपये गिनने के लिए वो भी मशीनों द्वारा १२ -१६ घंटे का समय क्यों लगा जबकि ये सिर्फ दस मिनट का काम था....??

शुरुआत में थैलों में गहने होने की बात कही गयी थी आखिर वो गहने कहा गायब हो गये....??

देश की मिडिया इतने बड़े बड़े न्यूज़ को एक हीं दिन में कैसे भूल गयी कम से कम 8/10 दिन तो मीडिया का विधवा विलाप बनता ही है इस बार क्यों नहीं किया........??

हर बात में राजनीती खोजने वाली पार्टियों ने आखिर इसे राजनितिकरंग क्यों नही दिया......??

"आप" कहाँ है इस पर दो-तीन दिन का अँट-शँट तो बनता ही थी या आपको हिस्सा मिल गया होगा जिसके बाद जरूरत नहीं पड़ेगी ड्रामा करने की क्या आवश्यकता......??

बहुत सारी बातें है जो जेहन में कौंध रही है जिसका जवाब नही सूझ रहा.... आशा है की आप मदद karenge

***////****///***

मुंबई में जो ट्रक पकड़ा गया था उसमे
कल दोपहर तक 2500 करोड था,
रात में 200 करोड था,
सुबह 100 करोड
और
अभी 10 करोड है

.... कुछ देर और रुक जाओ

फिर ये कहेंगे कि

पोस्टमैन मनीऑर्डर ले जा रहा था |

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 04 Jul 2013 21:37

Good points please, share this on your facebooks:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Till date, no evidence is proved against Sadhvi Pragya; She's suffering from Cancer; still she is kept in jail.

On the other hand, ishrat jahan who was a terrorist; killed with 2 paki terrorists; all evidence against her; still some politicians & paid media giving their fullest to prove she was innocent.

The main reason behind this is that 100 crore Hindus are divided...

When muslim community is coming ahead to defend Ishrat, why can't we Hindus stand together to save innocent Sadhvi Pragya???
Awake Hindus... Awake before it's too late...!!!!

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 04 Jul 2013 21:48

Just now Moulana Madani wished rape for Smiriti Irani on HT. Something like "You'd understand if you were raped."

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 04 Jul 2013 22:06

I am sick of this "KAbhi haan kabhi naan" style of Gangs of 10 Janpath.

Intelligence Bureau's letter to CBI: 'David Headley told FBI Ishrat Jahan was a suicide bomber'

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/intel ... eststories

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 04 Jul 2013 22:39

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 04 Jul 2013 23:11

Hari Seldon wrote:
How chweet... exactly what swamyg wants, turns out... a loss is preferable to realism/pragmatism. IMO, BSY is a good opportunity to help LKA smell the coffee regarding his (lack of) writ in the BJP...

From the same article "However, sources indicated that Modi was likely to call for Yeddyurappa's return despite Advani's veto".

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/lk-a ... 86855.html

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 04 Jul 2013 23:22

Hari Seldon wrote: How chweet... exactly what swamyg wants, turns out... a loss is preferable to realism/pragmatism. IMO, BSY is a good opportunity to help LKA smell the coffee regarding his (lack of) writ in the BJP...

Modi ke supporter ho, toda unka speech to ICAI bhi deko. He talks about right direction, practical ityadi. He resonates with our swamyg

. This massive Rona-Dona in BRF is realism? Working the caste is fine and dandy, which I am not totally opposed, but taking back in a person who just stabbed you in the back hardly a few months ago is pragmatism? Is KA bereft of other BJP leaders that BJP has to rely on a back stabber? As Modi says, set the direction straight Manzil Khud pass ayegi.

Agar realism ki Baath ho rahi hain to goonde, chor aur lotera ok bhi party mein barti Karni chahiye. Zara bhi idealism nahi hain to realism ka kaya fayda.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 04 Jul 2013 23:31

SwamyG wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote: How chweet... exactly what swamyg wants, turns out... a loss is preferable to realism/pragmatism. IMO, BSY is a good opportunity to help LKA smell the coffee regarding his (lack of) writ in the BJP...
Modi ke supporter ho, toda unka speech to ICAI bhi deko. He talks about right direction, practical ityadi. He resonates with our swamyg . This massive Rona-Dona in BRF is realism? Working the caste is fine and dandy, which I am not totally opposed, but taking back in a person who just stabbed you in the back hardly a few months ago is pragmatism? Is KA bereft of other BJP leaders that BJP has to rely on a back stabber? As Modi says, set the direction straight Manzil Khud pass ayegi.

Agar realism ki Baath ho rahi hain to goonde, chor aur lotera ok bhi party mein barti Karni chahiye. Zara bhi idealism nahi hain to realism ka kaya fayda.

Modi will ally with yeddy or bring him back to bjp, advani and swamyg can say whatever they want. You can refrain from voting bjp if modi reaches to yeddy. But BJP will do well in Karnataka LS. If corruption is such a big issue for old hag LKA, he shd start with nira ananth kumar radia.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jul 2013 02:24

Madhu K sends shiver down the spine of Sagarika by talking about that ex IPS Srikumar's role in some ISRO scandal and his deal with Con system to attack Modi to save his skin.

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/404154/ftp ... media.html

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 05 Jul 2013 04:04

Here is something I noticed about Bihar in the 2009 Lok Sabha elections. We all have a tendency to easily write off the congress in the state, I even asked sometime ago as to why they have 10% vote in 2010 assembly. I decided to dig up on the Lok Sabha polls as well. This is an absolute shocker to me.

Of the 40 seats: 2 not contested

18 seats above vote share is above 10%
11 seats below 5%
9 seats between 5 and 10% vote share.

I mean if this is the case, congress is indeed a player in bihar, It just does not have enuf votes to translate them to seats. But when in alliance, the equation changes dramatically. If alliance with Yeddy can help BJP get back to 15-20/28 seats in KA, Lalu can do bloody well with the congress.

Now even if BJP and Nitish were together, even in that case lalu and congress will do good. The break really does not change anything, congress will go with lalu. But I posted this graph, just for people who think that Congress is zero in bihar. It is far from that. Now where it gets these votes, I dont know.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jul 2013 04:22

In line with what RamanaJi have been saying about IB

The BJP today appeared more surefooted in countering the Congress’s attack on the Ishrat encounter. The parliamentary board has apparently concluded that the Congress has “scored the biggest self-goal in recent history”.

The BJP has decided that “no government has survived a mutiny by the Intelligence Bureau” and that the Ishrat case will prove that the “country is not safe in the UPA’s hands”.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130705/j ... dYA2eEy1sk

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jul 2013 04:51

muraliravi wrote:
Here is something I noticed about Bihar in the 2009 Lok Sabha elections. We all have a tendency to easily write off the congress in the state, I even asked sometime ago as to why they have 10% vote in 2010 assembly. I decided to dig up on the Lok Sabha polls as well. This is an absolute shocker to me.

Of the 40 seats: 2 not contested

18 seats above vote share is above 10%
11 seats below 5%
9 seats between 5 and 10% vote share.

I mean if this is the case, congress is indeed a player in bihar, It just does not have enuf votes to translate them to seats. But when in alliance, the equation changes dramatically. If alliance with Yeddy can help BJP get back to 15-20/28 seats in KA, Lalu can do bloody well with the congress.

Now even if BJP and Nitish were together, even in that case lalu and congress will do good. The break really does not change anything, congress will go with lalu. But I posted this graph, just for people who think that Congress is zero in bihar. It is far from that. Now where it gets these votes, I dont know.

I keep on repeating Congress has very deep roots. Congress gets that much of vote even after almost 25 years being out of power and pathetic Nehru-Gandhi leadership. My guess for Bihar would be 10-15% from UCs(mostly those who got some job or have some business, NGO connection) + 20% Muslims + 5% BCs +5-10 % EBCs + 50% SC/STs (As there is no BSP in Bihar. It's still a mystery as why BSP never tried to expand itself in Bihar)

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Jul 2013 04:53

New position, better projection. Modi government wants more PR spin

Dalal media indulging merrily in more insinuations and general sliminess. Look at the way the sentences are framed - implying what the writer considers a 'normal' baseline... From India Today...

Though a report from Uttarakhand that Narendra Modi and his team managed to evacuate around 15,000 Gujaratis from the flood-ravaged state evoked disbelief, it became the news of the day, the aim to be in news was served.

White lie. The 'journo' plainly seeks to imply that the point of NM's UKD efforts was to be in the news. #aakthoo.

Fact is NM didn't seek to milk any publicity for doing what he had to do in UKD. The 'controversy' surrounding the soonyaDas report in Rediff is full mischief, debunked and discredited only.

And the Gujarat Chief Minister, now the BJP's campaign committee chief, will need more such big projections.

Journo implies he/she/it has a direct line to NM campaign's needs and desires, clearly.

So the Gujarat government has now invited bids from different public relations (PR) agencies from New Delhi to expand Modi's presence in the media and make him the talk of the town, said a newspaper report on Thursday.
[...]
According to the report, representatives from four agencies attended to a pre-bid conference by the government of Gujarat in New Delhi.

Good. At least they are upfront about what they seek. No bursting into tears after a "power is poison" midnight drama ...

The brief from the Commissionerate of Information of Gujarat for the firm is clear: ensuring at least six stories each in newspapers and a story each in magazines and TV channels with info provided by the state government and promote the Vibrant Gujarat brand. It will also need to press the alarm on stories critical of the state government.

Nice. This is what I expect from Guj. Clear, straight fwd, businesslike, calm. With well-defined expectations, norms, measures, metrics .... Spells efficiency coupled with a certain fwd looking vision... jai ho only.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jul 2013 04:54

ramana wrote:
Sushupti wrote:Do listen to Ajit Doval on NWR live.. Repeat playing right now..

You mind posting the gist for those who can't access the program?

Am fascianted witht he INC logic or gameplan on this case.

BTW one should pay attention to the Rs 2500 crores seized in Mumbai and the Doggy outburst of BJP planning riots in INC led states!

Its the pot calling the stainless steel pressure cooker black!

Wonder how the truck was caught in Mumbai while headin got Gujarat?

Also SHQ was suggesting that money could be used for Uttara Khand in additon to the pittance from GOI. No need for World Bank loan etc. Rs. 2500 crores is good amount to rebuild the infrastructure there.

I found the archives. Listen to the entry for July 3rd. http://nwrlive.com/category/shows/the-views-hour

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 05 Jul 2013 06:46

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 919821.cms

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 05 Jul 2013 07:34

Sushupti wrote:
muraliravi wrote:
Here is something I noticed about Bihar in the 2009 Lok Sabha elections. We all have a tendency to easily write off the congress in the state, I even asked sometime ago as to why they have 10% vote in 2010 assembly. I decided to dig up on the Lok Sabha polls as well. This is an absolute shocker to me.

Of the 40 seats: 2 not contested

18 seats above vote share is above 10%
11 seats below 5%
9 seats between 5 and 10% vote share.

I mean if this is the case, congress is indeed a player in bihar, It just does not have enuf votes to translate them to seats. But when in alliance, the equation changes dramatically. If alliance with Yeddy can help BJP get back to 15-20/28 seats in KA, Lalu can do bloody well with the congress.

Now even if BJP and Nitish were together, even in that case lalu and congress will do good. The break really does not change anything, congress will go with lalu. But I posted this graph, just for people who think that Congress is zero in bihar. It is far from that. Now where it gets these votes, I dont know.
I keep on repeating Congress has very deep roots. Congress gets that much of vote even after almost 25 years being out of power and pathetic Nehru-Gandhi leadership. My guess for Bihar would be 10-15% from UCs(mostly those who got some job or have some business, NGO connection) + 20% Muslims + 5% BCs +5-10 % EBCs + 50% SC/STs (As there is no BSP in Bihar. It's still a mystery as why BSP never tried to expand itself in Bihar)

You are right. There is still some dormant voter base for the congress. But I thought the SC/ST in bihar votes go to Paswan.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 05 Jul 2013 07:37

Here is one more for the Gurus. I am aware that a lot of opinion polls (NDTV, Times now, AAJ Tak etc..) have been giving BJP a clear advantage in Delhi LS 2014. AAJ Tak recently had a poll just for Delhi Assembly where it gave BJP 40+ seats out of the 70.

But here is the chart where I have compared BJP and Congress performance in Delhi Lok Sabha 2009. The gap is so freaking huge that I doubt BJP will ever be able to dethrone congress in Delhi, especially with people like Vijay Goel. Namo Magic may work, but he is not a magician to change a mole into a mountain.

Have the Sikhs of Delhi deserted BJP completely ever since MMS became congress PM?

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 05 Jul 2013 07:46

Indian Express report based on The Week survey:

Lok Sabha polls 2014: Narendra Modi top choice for PM, beats Rahul Gandhi, says survey. Also NDA projected to get 197 seats and UPA 184.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/lok-s ... y/1137756/

niran · Post by **niran** » 05 Jul 2013 07:51

muraliravi wrote: Have the Sikhs of Delhi deserted BJP completely ever since MMS became congress PM?

two points to ponder
-Sikhs particularly the middle aged and above vote for yem yem yes
- around 10 million+ illegal immigrants from Bangladesh whom the Honerable Mohtarma CM calls them
mehman (guest) have been provided with Ration cards and registered as voters they wholly vote
kangress.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 05 Jul 2013 08:02

niran wrote:
muraliravi wrote: Have the Sikhs of Delhi deserted BJP completely ever since MMS became congress PM?
two points to ponder
-Sikhs particularly the middle aged and above vote for yem yem yes
- around 10 million+ illegal immigrants from Bangladesh whom the Honerable Mohtarma CM calls them
mehman (guest) have been provided with Ration cards and registered as voters they wholly vote
kangress.

Delhi's population is 12 million. And you say it has 10 million Bangladeshis. I know there are illegal bangladeshis in delhi, but ur number is way off. Anyway no more on that in this forum.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Jul 2013 08:15

Brown sepoy Sadanand Dhume who peddles his brown-ness in the US and his Americanity in India writes a half-decent piece here on why twitter/FB etc don't matter in Indian polls, and yet, somehow still do...

Twitter Quietly Changes India

niran · Post by **niran** » 05 Jul 2013 08:17

muraliravi wrote:
Delhi's population is 12 million. And you say it has 10 million Bangladeshis. I know there are illegal bangladeshis in delhi, but ur number is way off. Anyway no more on that in this forum.

get your facts correct Saarji Nai Dilli has around 25 million registered voters Purani Dilli 16 million voters
it is from year 2011 and now it is 2013 do the maths Saar.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 05 Jul 2013 08:26

Pranav wrote:One needs to re-imagine the architecture of governance, which includes systemic reforms to deter corruption as well as decentralization, participative democracy.

BJP & Modi in particular is a big proponent of decentralization. What is the extra that Kejriwal offers ? Also can you expand on this participative democracy bit ?

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 05 Jul 2013 08:27

niran wrote:
muraliravi wrote:
Delhi's population is 12 million. And you say it has 10 million Bangladeshis. I know there are illegal bangladeshis in delhi, but ur number is way off. Anyway no more on that in this forum.
get your facts correct Saarji Nai Dilli has around 25 million registered voters Purani Dilli 16 million voters
it is from year 2011 and now it is 2013 do the maths Saar.

Please get your facts right. Here is the number of voters in each of delhi's LS seats as per 2009.

Registered Voters
Chandni Chowk 1,413,535
East Delhi 1,604,802
New Delhi 1,373,860
North East Delhi 1,677,060
North West Delhi 1,798,442
South Delhi 1,542,411
West Delhi 1,687,782

That totals to 11.1 Million voters in entire delhi. It is news to me that it went to 41 million (25+16) by 2011 according to you. Here is the link for my numbers, i got it right of ECI website. Can you give me any link.

http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/archiveofge2 ... ummary.pdf

Here is census 2011 total delhi (NCT) population

Link: http://www.censusindia.gov.in/2011-prov ... elhi_9.pdf

See slide 8, it is 16.7 million for full of National capital territory (UT)

BJP will do better if it digs into the real reasons for such a huge gap in vote share against congress.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 05 Jul 2013 08:49

“The Sangh parivar and BJP are conspiring to incite communal violence in Congress-ruled states including Karnataka. The government will have to keep strict vigil on Hindutva organisations,” he said during his address to the KPCC general body at the Palace Grounds. He wanted the state government to take all precautionary measures to prevent fundamentalist organisations from fomenting trouble.

“The BJP has realised that they won’t win unless they play communal card communal and they want to secure victory by inciting communal passions,” he added. Singh said BJP, during its rule, communalised the whole administrative machinery which needed to be cleansed now.

BJP needs to openly articulate the position that Congress-backed organizations would create communal problems and terrorist situations in the country.

Also, I guess the cleansing from the system of each others' "communal officers" will now become de regieur after every change of government.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 05 Jul 2013 08:52

Arjun wrote:
“The Sangh parivar and BJP are conspiring to incite communal violence in Congress-ruled states including Karnataka. The government will have to keep strict vigil on Hindutva organisations,” he said during his address to the KPCC general body at the Palace Grounds. He wanted the state government to take all precautionary measures to prevent fundamentalist organisations from fomenting trouble.

“The BJP has realised that they won’t win unless they play communal card communal and they want to secure victory by inciting communal passions,” he added. Singh said BJP, during its rule, communalised the whole administrative machinery which needed to be cleansed now.
BJP needs to openly articulate the position that Congress-backed organizations would create communal problems and terrorist situations in the country.

Also, I guess the cleansing from the system of each others' "communal officers" will now become de regieur after every change of government.

My guess is that BJP's 2014 strategy is going to focussed solely on governance and delivery and that message will be delivered differently to the urban and rural audience. Congress is laying these traps of kommunalism and israt jahan to divert the bjp. The BJP is not falling in the trap. I wont be surprised if congress goes overboard and orders some sleeper cells to cause some blasts. They will be hoping that bjp will go hammer and tongs on that and again get derailed like in 2009.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 05 Jul 2013 08:58

muraliravi wrote:My guess is that BJP's 2014 strategy is going to focussed solely on governance and delivery and that message will be delivered differently to the urban and rural audience. Congress is laying these traps of kommunalism and israt jahan to divert the bjp. The BJP is not falling in the trap. I wont be surprised if congress goes overboard and orders some sleeper cells to cause some blasts. They will be hoping that bjp will go hammer and tongs on that and again get derailed like in 2009.

Modi's central message should continue to remain governance and development. No question about that. However - he should simultaneously convey the subtle message that Congress will go to any lengths to derail him including communal riots and terrorist strikes. Basically the image of Congress as a rogue organization needs to become entrenched in the minds of the public. The way they have misused CBI in Ishrat Jahan case already conveys that impression to some extent.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 05 Jul 2013 09:03

Arjun wrote:
Pranav wrote:One needs to re-imagine the architecture of governance, which includes systemic reforms to deter corruption as well as decentralization, participative democracy.
BJP & Modi in particular is a big proponent of decentralization. What is the extra that Kejriwal offers ? Also can you expand on this participative democracy bit ?

Kejriwal has been suggesting a framework for referendums, initiatives, Gram & Mohalla Sabhas, right to recall, right to reject, Jan Lokpal ...

Modi has also very recently advocated right to reject, which is a good thing.

Competitive politics will make others take up issues for which there is public support.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 05 Jul 2013 09:06

Arre chodo yaar. Lacs and millions. English hai. Phoren language.

But somebody said it right Vijay Goel is a lemon. Delhi has been pampered good enough by the Kongis. The old base has shifted outwards towards NCR. People are willing but they need some sound leadership. Delhi BJP is a gaddha (a ditch). Delhi OTOH is the place where the people are neck deep in politics and people do have a considerable national outlook too. The catch is the shorter attention span and weak guts. They will decide but they cannot fight it out on the streets. Street presence is basically looked at as loafers. Slightly different culture but still part of its catchment. Needs deft handling.

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 05 Jul 2013 09:16

From Dainik Jagran:

BJP's slogan in UP for elections - 'Garvit Uttar Pradesh' just like in Gujarat. Also nearly 70% seats will have new candidates and few sitting MP's will be denied tickets.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 05 Jul 2013 09:21

Pranav wrote:Kejriwal has been suggesting a framework for referendums, initiatives, Gram & Mohalla Sabhas, right to recall, right to reject, Jan Lokpal ...

Modi has also very recently advocated right to reject, which is a good thing.

Competitive politics will make others take up issues for which there is public support.

Gram and Mohalla sabhas - these are natural extensions of decentralization to the lowest level & Modi would be a supporter.

As for referendums, initiatives, Right to recall, right to reject, Jan Lokpal...All these are good and necessary concepts. The key lies in translating them from the conceptual level to level of detail. Depending on how this translation to details is worked out - each one of these could potentially also act as an instrument of subversion (like in the Jan Lokpal case in Gujarat). Therefore it is better that they be shepherded into the country by a government that one trusts (and the least untrustworthy today is the BJP).

niran · Post by **niran** » 05 Jul 2013 09:33

muraliravi wrote: Here is the link for my numbers, i got it right of ECI website. Can you give me any link.

http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/archiveofge2 ... ummary.pdf

Here is census 2011 total delhi (NCT) population

Link: http://www.censusindia.gov.in/2011-prov ... elhi_9.pdf

See slide 8, it is 16.7 million for full of National capital territory (UT)

BJP will do better if it digs into the real reasons for such a huge gap in vote share against congress.

Saarji your's is the guestimated figure, mine comes from the number of people present in the ration card and the kilos of Sugar and Liters of kerosene sold per month for the link you should be high enough to be able to access FCI's data or active enough to file an RTI.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 05 Jul 2013 09:33

Have we ever had a PM who was a CM before that?

I think Namo will be the first one.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Jul 2013 09:35

^^ Morarji, no? Certainly Deve Gowda.