Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 2011

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 02 Oct 2011 10:34

All those informing Paki Lurks about name of Allah being written in Green on the surface of the Sun should understand one thing! Our Paki Lurk population is soon going to hit zero!

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 02 Oct 2011 10:44

Strange they choose to reveal hid real name, location etc...seems the Barelvi mullabarians have a point. If RD can be released for killing two pakis that too pure ISI mard-e-momins, why let Qadri hang for killing just one Paki that too a blasphemer?

Interestingly, the arguments advanced by the barbarian fundoos in TSP against Qadri hanging are almost copied and pasted from those advanced by our liberal intellectual giants in favor of letting Kasab and others like that go free..

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 02 Oct 2011 10:45

RajeshA wrote:All those informing Paki Lurks about name of Allah being written in Green on the surface of the Sun should understand one thing! Our Paki Lurk population is soon going to hit zero!

Any plans on making BRF friendly for visually impaired?

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Oct 2011 10:48

The regrettable part of this episode is that by claiming to emulate the practice of the Prophet of Muhammaddenism with regards to his marriage with the 9 year old Ayesha, thus making it "Shariah Compliant", the 85 year old groom in this case is going to get away scot free with this act of marriage to a child:

When contacted, Langrana Station House Officer (SHO) Zafar Bhatti said that he had conducted a raid but found that no laws were broken. “I cannot arrest anyone here because the girl is an adult as per Islamic Law and Shariah. She is 12-years-old and that is not too young for marriage,” he said.

“I have submitted a report with the court in this regard and it is up the court to prosecute,” he added. “The marriage needs a wali and her father is her guardian. It was his choice to give her in marriage,” he said.

Read it all:

Child marriage: 12-year-old girl given in wani to 85-year-old

Upendra · Post by **Upendra** » 02 Oct 2011 10:49

arun wrote:No matter, the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will a la Raymond Davis force the Taseer family to accept "blood money" and exonerate Qadri. The financial drain of the no doubt hefty ransom that will need to be paid to secure the release of the kidnapped Shahbaz Taseer should put the Taseer family in receptive frame of mind .

blood money is only paid in cases of murder.

qadri killed a kafir and since all kafirs are animals, how can killings animals be termed as murder.

convicting qadri is a serious miscarriage of justice, the higher courts in pakistan must correct this.

qadri should be released forthwith and honored as a ghazi who avenged blaspemous crimes commited by a kafir.

qadri has a such a beautiful voice while singing naat, i hope he is proficient in mujra moves too.

people like qadri are the future of pakistan which the corrupt westernised elite of pakistan love to hate.

since kufrs like you are full of jahiliyat you cant understand the superior logic of pakistaniyat.

I invite people like you to binori madrassa where we can have a more fruitful discussion on the finer ascepts of sharia.

After the meeting i am sure you will become fully enligtened or else we can arrange a wajib-ul-qatl party for you.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 02 Oct 2011 11:21

Satya_anveshi wrote:Death Sentence in Slaying of Pakistani Governor

Bechaara judge appears to be a Shia - so there is no doubt he goose is cooked fine.
Also, it appears that there is scant coverage in the media due to the fear backlash (don't know from whom?).

Saar, you did indeed call it correctly. One group has already announced a monetary reward for the Judge's head.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/death ... er/854464/

Reports said the Tahaffuz-e-Namus Risalat Mahaz announced a reward of Rs 50 lakh for anyone who killed the judge who convicted Qadri.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Oct 2011 11:26

Death for Salman Taseer's Assassin - Anita Joshua in The Hindu

The judgement drew a mixed response with supporters of the assassin, Malik Mumtaz Husain Qadri, taking to the streets claiming that the verdict would produce 1,000 more Qadris while the scattered liberals voiced concerns about the security of the judge who issued the order.

Already rewards have been announced at rallies in Qadri's support for anyone who kills the judge . . .

Qadri has been given seven days to file an appeal but there were reports of his lawyers claiming he was happy with the verdict as it was a “sacrifice for the Prophet.”

After the verdict was announced, the judge was apparently taken out of the premises from a rear exit. Within hours of the judgement more protests were reported from Lahore and Rawalpindi while banners came up across cities in support of the assassin with one saying “Qadri, we salute your glory.”

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 02 Oct 2011 11:44

U.S. Envoy Visits Pakistan Over Tensions on Tackling Militants

Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. sent its special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan to the region as politicians in Islamabad rejected U.S. allegations their country is aiding guerrilla attacks in Afghanistan.

Marc Grossman also will visit India, China and Central Asia in preparation for a conference on Afghanistan in Turkey in November, the State Department said in Washington, without providing a detailed itinerary.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 02 Oct 2011 11:48

So, I urge all true believers to act immediately. Choose a clear day, with no clouds and the Sun high up in the sky. Mid-day is a good time. Lie back, take a deep breath and look the Sun in the face. It would be a good idea to ask your friends and companions to accompany you on this holiest of missions. It is said that great things come to pass soon after this sublime experience.

Looking at the Sun longer for long periods is no problem for this Kufr at least..

http://www.be-a-traveler.ch/index.php?o ... deo_id=106

http://www.lifepositive.com/Spirit/Sun_ ... i52004.asp

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 02 Oct 2011 12:02

The hordes of frenzied suppporters of the executioner of the "blashphemer" of the Punjab,many lawyers,mullahs,et al,in macabre adulation of him while his prison van was in the court premises indicates that Pak has long "gone".The moderates in Pak must have already made their escape plans should the state end up in civil war.Like Humpty Dumpty,all Uncle Sam's moolah and all Uncle Sam's arms cannot put Pak together (into Jinnah's moth-eaten state) again.The die has been cast,Pak is beyond the pale.The battle is between the corrupt elite of the nation who feast like vultures upon the flesh of the Paki people and the fundoos,the jihadi lot who want to install their own Sunni Wahabi version of the Shiite Iranian revolution.How long the military,dominated ad nauseum by the Paki army can rule the roost is the multi-billion dollar Q.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Oct 2011 12:03

On the issue of Qadri, I believe that the Federal Shariat Court (FSC) can take up this issue suo motu (because in addition to vetting Shariah-compliance of all laws passed in the National Assembly, the FSC has the power to take up for prosecution all hudud cases as well) and only 'lightly' punish Qadri or even exonerate him. The ruling of the FSC is binding on the Lahore High Court. The Punjab Govt. may then choose not to go in appeal against the verdict to the Shariat Bench of the Supreme Court. This is a way out for Qadri and the State of Pakistan.

That way, Pakistan can feel proud that it satisfied the Western nations of punishment by the now famous 'independent judiciary' and also satisfy the Islamists at the same time.

Anyway, the ATC Judge Pervaiz Ali has to seek Canadian visa if not already done. He should not specifically seek any police protection, most especially Punjab Police, because of possible Qadriization.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 02 Oct 2011 12:08

Anyway, the ATC Judge Pervaiz Ali has to seek Canadian visa if not already done. He should not specifically seek any police protection, most especially Punjab Police, because of possible Qadriization.

I think the definition of 'Canadian Visa seekers' has to be expanded, considering the continual increase of piety in Paki society.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 02 Oct 2011 12:11

harbans wrote:
Anyway, the ATC Judge Pervaiz Ali has to seek Canadian visa if not already done. He should not specifically seek any police protection, most especially Punjab Police, because of possible Qadriization.
I think the definition of 'Canadian Visa seekers' has to be expanded, considering the continual increase of piety in Paki society.

In this case it's not the definition of 'Kanadian Visa Seekers' but rather their musharrafs which will end up being expanded.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 02 Oct 2011 12:19

http://tribune.com.pk/story/264930/prot ... ity-roads/

Protesting Qadri's sentence: Thousand protestors paralyse city roads

Seminary students clash with Anarkali traders, forcing them to shut down their shops. PHOTO: EXPRESS/IJAZ MAHMOOD

Around a thousand protestors defied a ban on rallies on The Mall on Saturday to block the road in anger at Mumtaz Qadri’s death sentence for the murder of Salmaan Taseer, causing massive disruptions to traffic all over the city. Unprepared and undermanned, the police were unable to stop them from blocking the road.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 02 Oct 2011 12:38

Anujan wrote:http://tribune.com.pk/story/264930/prot ... ity-roads/

Protesting Qadri's sentence: Thousand protestors paralyse city roads

Seminary students clash with Anarkali traders, forcing them to shut down their shops. PHOTO: EXPRESS/IJAZ MAHMOOD

Around a thousand protestors defied a ban on rallies on The Mall on Saturday to block the road in anger at Mumtaz Qadri’s death sentence for the murder of Salmaan Taseer, causing massive disruptions to traffic all over the city. Unprepared and undermanned, the police were unable to stop them from blocking the road.

Look at them. The maximum IQ will not be more than 70. How come this is happening? Brightest minds, most powerful military machine and we are discussing these retards. What the hell is wrong with us?

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 02 Oct 2011 12:39

^
Pakbarian animals! ( A picture is worth thousand words. )

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Oct 2011 13:51

I wonder which genius in the US State Department concluded that in a country such as Pakistan that goes to great lengths in loudly proclaiming its Mohammadden identity by claiming to be an Islamic Republic and Ideological Muslim State, the way forward for winning hearts and minds there is to use an activity many Mohammaddens consider “Haraam”.

US uses jazz music to improve Pakistan relations

sum · Post by **sum** » 02 Oct 2011 14:02

^^ Hoping that the faithful arent going to take the Qadri denial of justice lying down and will show their displeasure ( esp on TSPA and ISI offices)

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 02 Oct 2011 14:18

arun wrote:I wonder which genius in the US State Department concluded that in a country such as Pakistan that goes to great lengths in loudly proclaiming its Mohammadden identity by claiming to be an Islamic Republic and Ideological Muslim State, the way forward for winning hearts and minds there is to use an activity many Mohammaddens consider “Haraam”.

US uses jazz music to improve Pakistan relations

The way things are going, the Pakis will soon witness the power of American heavy metal (lead, depleted uranium etc.) instead

.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 02 Oct 2011 14:36

ArmenT wrote:
arun wrote:I wonder which genius in the US State Department concluded that in a country such as Pakistan that goes to great lengths in loudly proclaiming its Mohammadden identity by claiming to be an Islamic Republic and Ideological Muslim State, the way forward for winning hearts and minds there is to use an activity many Mohammaddens consider “Haraam”.

US uses jazz music to improve Pakistan relations
The way things are going, the Pakis will soon witness the power of American heavy metal (lead, depleted uranium etc.) instead .

Thadaasthu!

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Oct 2011 18:09

ArmenT wrote:
arun wrote:I wonder which genius in the US State Department concluded that in a country such as Pakistan that goes to great lengths in loudly proclaiming its Mohammadden identity by claiming to be an Islamic Republic and Ideological Muslim State, the way forward for winning hearts and minds there is to use an activity many Mohammaddens consider “Haraam”.

US uses jazz music to improve Pakistan relations
The way things are going, the Pakis will soon witness the power of American heavy metal (lead, depleted uranium etc.) instead .

Do not forget Tungsten Carbide.

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Oct 2011 18:10

arun wrote:Pakistani newspaper The News reports that with regard to the assassination of the former President of Afghanistan, Burhanuddin Rabbani, the Interior Minister of Afghanistan is reported as saying that “Without any doubt Pakistan’s ISI hand has been involved,”:

ISI involved in Rabbani killing: Kabul

X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan reinforces its position as the preferred breeding ground for Islamic Terrorism with Afghanistan revealing yet more links of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to the assassination of the former Afghan President Burhanuddin Rabbani.

It now turns out that besides the plot being hatched in Quetta in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the assassin was a Pakistani.

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation:

Rabbani killer was Pakistani: Karzai's office

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Oct 2011 18:34

Mark Magnier in the Los Angeles Times.

The simple answer to why India was not believed all these years about the murderous fomenting of Islamic Terrorism by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan was because no American and European lives were being lost

. What is different now is that the American and European body count caused by Pakistan supported Islamic Terrorism is climbing

.

INDIA: A sense of vindication as U.S.-Pakistan relations deteriorate

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 02 Oct 2011 18:54

arun wrote:Mark Magnier in the Los Angeles Times.

The simple answer to why India was not believed all these years about the murderous fomenting of Islamic Terrorism by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan was because no American and European lives were being lost . What is different now is that the American and European body count caused by Pakistan supported Islamic Terrorism is climbing .

INDIA: A sense of vindication as U.S.-Pakistan relations deteriorate

Yes, but its still a racist piece of subtle equal equal crap in not poiting to the fact that TSP is a terrorist abomination that muct be destroyed.

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 02 Oct 2011 19:25

I think I am going to sue the LA Times for the 45 seconds of my life I lost reading that piece of $hit article. It is far worse than an equal-equal piece of manure. It's condescending, lecturing drivel that passes as anal-y-sis from the typical pseudointellectual that populate the US media.

It is in India's best interest that Pukisatan be dismembered and have it's economy match it's religious-social-cultural milieu, that is 6th century level. The stronger and more stable that abomination is, the more Mohammedan drones will be sent to butcher the lamb like kafirs that populate India. Proud nation my arse. A proud people don't pretend they are descendants of camel herding mass murdering thieves and rapists. Notice how the bit@h blames the Mumbai massacre on India's incompetence rather than the Mohammedan drones who butchered innocent people simply because they were kafirs. India was unprepared for the Mohammedan onslaught once and the result was 90 million dead Hindus. Never again.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 Oct 2011 20:15

tejas wrote:I think I am going to sue the LA Times for the 45 seconds of my life I lost reading that piece of $hit article.

reminds me of a joke I read in the Vietnam era. American companies apparently often used to send freebies to GIs in Vietnam. On guy thought he would write to the company that made "Seven-o'clock" razor blades hoping for freebiees. He thanked the company and said that just one blade had lasted him a year. So the company sent him one blade and said "Here is another year's supply"

If you win your case you'll be lucky to get 2 cents. That would be a handsome profit for reading trash about Pakistan.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 02 Oct 2011 20:52

Tejas ji, nice heartfelt post. I feel the same. I do wonder and this has been reiterated by many on this forum, why we continue this charade at Wagah. We should just send a Soldier stand straight, look the Paki in the eye, while the Paki does all those maneuvers himself. The article was drivel. Fact is the US should really be ashamed that it is being taken for a ride. IT should be questing int's Kissingers, Nixons, Robin Raphaels, Cohens and halfbrights and doing a self assessment, instead of trying to deride India's 'I told you so'. Also frankly i have not seen ONE single article that speaks on 'I told you so'. This Government on the other hand is giving Paki's water and food when it's down. Hina's goodness and all the Paki smiles were sucking upto India in case the conflagration with US got serious. SMK came through thinking oh yes these folks are so nice..

Jaspreet · Post by **Jaspreet** » 02 Oct 2011 21:01

Tejas,
Only time can remove/lessen the moral equivalence that the likes of this author tend to see. For the next 40 or so years, there is no option but to bear it.

At the end of the article the author acknowledges that India has pulled ahead in many fields. There will be a time when people will "know" that such a course was inevitable.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 02 Oct 2011 22:15

Mubhashir Lucman proves once again that " Jho Lawhore mein Gh**** "

From Cafe Pyala

In 2005, before his advent on TV, Mubasher Lucman directed his first and (thankfully) only feature film, Pehla Pehla Pyar. The hype was immense but when it was finally released in 2006, it turned out to be the biggest flop of the year. However, the controversy that simultaneously engulfed Lucman was far more problematic. It turned out that Lucman, who had had post-production work done at a lab in Thailand had fled from there without paying off his bill, valued by the studio at around US$80,000. In fact, he had defrauded the lab by taking a work-print (which is sort of an unfinished draft print) on the pretense that he needed to have the film censored in Pakistan, and then used that print to make cinema release copies from other labs in India. (Labs generally do not release prints or negatives until their bills are settled.) The result of this fraud was not only that the release prints were of very poor quality (made as they were from an unfinished work print rather than the original negatives which were still with the Thai lab), but that Thai studios collectively banned all Pakistani filmmakers from using their facilities. In addition, the Thai lab then wrote a letter to Pakistani film associations detailing the fraud. Under the threat of legal action and immense pressure from film associations in Pakistan, Lucman finally, ostensibly, settled the dues, allowing Pakistani filmmakers from accessing Thai facilities once again.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 02 Oct 2011 22:28

that "article" is propaganda. see how the India needs to be "big" and move away form "lowly" behavior of "tit-for-tat".....it's all India onlee. India needs to grow up.....India needs to wave the magic want and destroy Paki Jihadism that was nurtured and nourished by "West" for 6 decades.....India, when will you wave the magic wand? when will you accept your brother Pakistan?

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 02 Oct 2011 22:40

Call me paranoid if you want, there seems to be a sustained effort to discourage India in case of an overwhelming attack on India by Pakistan. The news articles and all the "China da bigger enemy","India da big brother of Paki" is pointing to blunt an Indian response for another massacre.

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 02 Oct 2011 22:44

The GOI should do everything it can possibly do to provide"moral support" to every secessionist group in Pakisatan that it can. For every splinter group the Puke govt has to fight, it's that much less funds it has to devote to cross border terrorism against India. The ultimate goal must be to break that cesspool into 4 or 5 smaller and more easily manageable cesspools as well as denuke the left over Pukjabi stump. Help should come from Unkil in this latter effort.

Also the border must be strengthened so not a single of those potentially polio ridden mentally stunted Arab-wannabes crosses the border into kafir territory.

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 02 Oct 2011 22:46

arun wrote:Mark Magnier in the Los Angeles Times.

The simple answer to why India was not believed all these years about the murderous fomenting of Islamic Terrorism by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan was because no American and European lives were being lost . What is different now is that the American and European body count caused by Pakistan supported Islamic Terrorism is climbing .

INDIA: A sense of vindication as U.S.-Pakistan relations deteriorate

The Admiral who made those very strong comments against Pakistan has a few weeks left at his post. He will be history soon enough. The new guy who will replace him, may or may not follow his advice. America cannot do much with their troubled relation with Pakistan.

America cut off its aid to Pakistan in 1990s. For the whole decade after the soviets pulled out of Afghanistan, Pakistan received very little american and multilateral aid. So severe was the cut off, that one Pakistani official was forced to plead with the Americans that condoms had nothing to do with nuclear technology, so at least the Americans should not stop assisting pakistan in other arenas. In spite of this aid cut off which lasted for about a decade, Pakistan did not stop supporting terror. Will Pakistan change under the threat of economic aid cut off? Nah. The people who matter in the porki land, i.e. the army and big feudal landowners, are well insulated. They will ride this out.

America threatened pakistan with a return to stone age after 9/11, but then allowed the evil airlift to happen, such that Pakistani "Strategic assets" were air lifted out kunduz and other places. Now some of these same assets are creating issues for ISAF. Pakistan knows that all America can do, is bomb it to stone age. America cannot invade and occupy Pakistan. Pakistan is not Iraq. Pakistan has a population which exceeds 170 million. Iraq had a population which was less than 40 million when it was invaded. America does not have the political will nor the economic capability to do a Iraq in South Asia. Recall what US Secretary of State said regarding Pakistan, "US will not solve Pakistan's problem".

There is a heart burn in Pakistan regarding the so called American tilt towards India. The Indo-US nuclear deal is a very sore point as far as Pakistan is concerned. Pakistan wanted China to do something similar, but let us face it, China does not have the clout to carry out such a deal. It may be big in north-east Asia, but in other parts of world it is just a country which has a prospectus to grow into something big and significant.

The more the things change the more they remain the same. It will be business as usual as far as this latest strom is concerned. Things will go back to normal very soon. Pakistan will continue to abet terror. US will complain loudly and will make some angry noises, but like an impotent actor will not be able to do much. It might launch some cross border raids into Pakistan, but that's all to it. Nothing more.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Oct 2011 22:58

It is time for a neutral observer or a non partisan group from Norway offer its services to negotiate between Hack Any and Mash Any (Massa) group fighting in Faq-Ap region ?
BTW Mis/ter Khar Dooshan was on FZ show today. S/he prefer private Deep-Low-Mate-IC talk.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 02 Oct 2011 23:01

Norway and Non-Partisan? Why?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Oct 2011 23:03

prahaar wrote:Norway and Non-Partisan? Why?

Bhai Sahib, then both Hack-Any and Crack_Any can share Nobel Piece Prize together.

Bhima · Post by **Bhima** » 02 Oct 2011 23:48

Gilani claims 'victory' in stand-off with USA

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 03 Oct 2011 02:23

shiv wrote:
CRamS wrote:
I am now convinced that there has been a massive guboing in private by TSP for this turn around by US.
It is a comforting consolation to think that Pakistan must be suffering in private. I am inclined to believe that every dossier send from India to Pakistan caused an equivalent amount of private suffering to Pakistanis.

Any evidence towards that ?...looks like wishful thinking onlee...

archan · Post by **archan** » 03 Oct 2011 02:27

^ sir ji, please to be catching the sarcasm onlee.

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 03 Oct 2011 05:07

Huma Yusuf writes about Pakiland http://www.dawn.com/2011/10/03/war-drum ... ntity.html
War drums and identity

You cannot vote simply to hate an external enemy. You cannot vote for war. You cannot vote for what you are not. In the absence of the activism of democracy, you are left with the fatalism of patronage. A nation that obsesses over external threats is one that values patronage, because patronage means protection from what may come. Valuing patronage is in some ways the antithesis of voting in a democracy: rather than shape your future, you seek protection from it. Ironically, patronage also nullifies the future possibility of democracy because it reiterates the importance of that which is local — kinship, ethnicity, language, sect — over what is national. As long as we seek protection from an external enemy, we will seek patrons, even if they come in uniform —and it is thus that history readies to repeat itself.