Iran has formed an axis of terror by arming, training and financing Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen and other terror proxies throughout the Middle East and beyond. In fighting Hamas and the Iranian axis of terror, Israel is fighting the enemies of civilization itself.
Victory over these enemies begins with moral clarity. It begins with knowing the difference between good and evil, between right and wrong. It means making a moral distinction between the deliberate murder of the innocent and the unintentional casualties that are the inevitable result of even the most just war.
It means holding Hamas accountable for the double war crime it commits every day by deliberately targeting Israeli civilians and deliberately using Palestinian civilians as human shields. It means not only making clear that the use of human shields is an immoral tactic of war, but making certain it is an ineffective one.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 01 Nov 2023 01:15
by Cyrano
Bala saar,
I've come across the English & French terms Philistines and Phlistins - Palestine is close enough but never got around to digging deeper. Looks like you just need to brush away surface sand...
The axis of terror is clear, as someone remarked, if that isn't clear then "...why Hezbollah continues to build a vast rocket force exclusively for targeting Israeli civilian centers decades after Israel withdrew from Lebanon".
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 01 Nov 2023 03:21
by NRao
Claims Russians have taken positions in Syria (implying the Russians have rolled out of their barracks) and Saudis have attacked the Houthis, who are backed by Iran.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 01 Nov 2023 03:39
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 01 Nov 2023 04:07
by sanman
Palestinians to be shifted to Egypt's Sinai Desert?
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 01 Nov 2023 06:03
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 01 Nov 2023 07:34
by drnayar
sanman wrote: ↑01 Nov 2023 04:07
Palestinians to be shifted to Egypt's Sinai Desert?
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I dare say this would one of the objectives of the ground offensive..depopulation and demarcation of gaza ,destruction of the rather extensive tunnel network
AIM's history of the place has many things including that Palestine as a name was given by the Brits and until 1920 such a name was not known. He correctly points out that the people were invaders (from Crete) and hence other Arab nations are not likely to absorb them. Jordan refused, Egypt does not want them. One history detail that AIM does not get right is discussed in Christianity, Evangelism thread
Iran has formed an axis of terror by arming, training and financing Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen and other terror proxies throughout the Middle East and beyond. In fighting Hamas and the Iranian axis of terror, Israel is fighting the enemies of civilization itself.
Victory over these enemies begins with moral clarity. It begins with knowing the difference between good and evil, between right and wrong. It means making a moral distinction between the deliberate murder of the innocent and the unintentional casualties that are the inevitable result of even the most just war.
It means holding Hamas accountable for the double war crime it commits every day by deliberately targeting Israeli civilians and deliberately using Palestinian civilians as human shields. It means not only making clear that the use of human shields is an immoral tactic of war, but making certain it is an ineffective one.
Iran is not solely to blame. Qatar is a bigger funder for terror with US backing. Qatar has funded ISIS, Taliban, Hamas and multiple other NGOs acting as OGWs for terrorists. We also need Iran to access Afghanistan and IAF base in Ayni.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 08:57
by sanman
Ukraine conflict has rubbed off on Hamas/Iran:
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 02 Nov 2023 09:04
by sanman
UN people coming out and showing their true stripes
They are selling weapons and funding the war
They are funding the academicians and letting media to do propaganda and rile up Arabs. Wokes get paid to rile up Muslims
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 03 Nov 2023 07:15
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 03 Nov 2023 07:29
by isubodh
vijayk wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023 07:03
I think US is playing both sides of the game
They are selling weapons and funding the war
They are funding the academicians and letting media to do propaganda and rile up Arabs. Wokes get paid to rile up Muslims
It can't be played for long. Media shapes the narrative. Soon it would become difficult for them to sell weapons as public will ask questions.
Questions will be based on how media is shaping narrative now.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 03 Nov 2023 07:59
by Aditya_V
Media has shaped the narrative for the last 100 years if not more and public have been proven gullible.
Many in BRF in Bengaluru expected solutions by voting INC , in TN DMK completely controls the media.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 03 Nov 2023 19:01
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 03 Nov 2023 21:19
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 04 Nov 2023 08:27
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 05 Nov 2023 04:55
by NRao
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 05 Nov 2023 06:09
by sanman
Comedian Dave Chappelle crosses the Lakshman Rekha and directly condemns Israel for war crimes:
Is the dam finally breaking? Will Hollywood's Leftist Celebrity Legions finally explode against Israel? Or will fear of losing their jobs keep them all quiet?
looks like the US envoy to iRan is under FBI investigation for peddling irans influence in DC
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 05 Nov 2023 07:29
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 05 Nov 2023 07:57
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 05 Nov 2023 09:49
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 05 Nov 2023 18:34
by sanman
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 05 Nov 2023 22:09
by bala
Major Gen Rajiv Narayana's take on the Israel war with Hamas and the changing dynamics in the world. Bharat's new place in the world is now very different. A new global order is in the making.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 05 Nov 2023 22:29
by Amber G.
For the first time in history: Israel was the first in the world to intercept an enemy missile in space.
Israel's Arrow (Hetz) missile defense system shot down a ballistic missile beyond the Earth's atmosphere that was launched by the pro-Iranian Houthis from Yemen towards Eilat.
--The Telegraph
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 06 Nov 2023 00:35
by Amber G.
A good interview by Natasha Fatah
- Hamas starting to 'understand the severity of their situation,
For the first time in history: Israel was the first in the world to intercept an enemy missile in space.
Israel's Arrow (Hetz) missile defense system shot down a ballistic missile beyond the Earth's atmosphere that was launched by the pro-Iranian Houthis from Yemen towards Eilat.
--The Telegraph
Houthis have exo atmospheric missiles?! Do any of 300 mile missiles escape the atmosphere? I am assuming Iran is not providing long range missiles even though its not a MTCR adherent..
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 06 Nov 2023 01:09
by KLNMurthy
dsreedhar wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023 21:19
Israel has hit Gaza hard and showed their capacity and resolve against terrorism. To avoid losing continued support to them so far from various quarters globally (and locally), would it be wise for them to give a temporary pause on military ops (disaster to human lives and negative image) and let the western leftists and UN to send in their orgs and security personnel into Gaza and surrender/capture Hamas terrorists? Put some onus on these orgs too. Make it timebound after which resume operations to destroy/clean up the terrorist infrastructure.
Israel is getting thrashed—on PR front if not anywhere else—for existing. When the thrashing becomes physical, as on 10/7, they are thrashing back.
If they “pause” the counter-thrashing, what do you think will happen?
Will anyone stop thrashing, or wanting to thrash, Israel for existing? Will the thrashing even decrease?
If I am Israel, what is my motivation for “pausing?”
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 06 Nov 2023 01:11
by Amber G.
^^^FWIW, Yes, 300 mile missiles can escape the atmosphere. The Karman line, which is often considered to be the boundary between Earth's atmosphere and space, is located at an altitude of about 100 Km. A 300 mile missile would need to travel at a velocity of about 7.8 km/s .. in order to escape the atmosphere and reach 'space'. This velocity is achievable with that rocket technology.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Posted: 06 Nov 2023 07:42
by ernest
Amber G. wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023 01:11
^^^FWIW, Yes, 300 mile missiles can escape the atmosphere. The Karman line, which is often considered to be the boundary between Earth's atmosphere and space, is located at an altitude of about 100 Km. A 300 mile missile would need to travel at a velocity of about 7.8 km/s .. in order to escape the atmosphere and reach 'space'. This velocity is achievable with that rocket technology.
to add on, I remember Prithvi would reach 80km altitude per early graphs by Arun_S. Another 20km to cross the Karman line would be expected for a 300mi range missile.
