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Why Did this Young BJP MP Face Embarrassment After Meeting Trump?
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India’s attempt to bring global attention to the alleged threat from ‘Operation Sindoor’ has repeatedly entangled itself in new complications. When a delegation of Indian MPs, led by Congress MP Shashi Tharoor, visited the United States, a young BJP MP who was part of the group ended up in the spotlight—albeit for the wrong reasons—due to his excessive political ambition. What irked this MP the most was that fellow delegate Milind Deora had pre-scheduled a meeting with Donald Trump Jr., which took place in a cordial atmosphere. Wanting a similar opportunity, the BJP MP tried to arrange his own meeting with Trump Jr., but failed. Frustrated, he boldly declared to his colleagues, “Now I will meet Donald Trump himself.” He was assisted in this effort by an old friend residing in the U.S., whose conduct is often considered mysterious. This friend took the MP to Trump’s private residence in Florida—Mar-a-Lago, which has been Trump’s personal estate since 1985…..

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Now back to the young BJP MP—he was introduced to Trump as someone “very close to the country’s head.” However, in typical Trump fashion, his behavior toward the MP was far from respectful, with offhand remarks that were reportedly quite hurtful. The MP left Mar-a-Lago deeply embarrassed, in a scene reminiscent of the saying: “Bade be-aabroo hokar tere kooche se hum nikle”. The MP never spoke about the incident, but news has wings—and this one flew across the ocean and landed on Raisina Hill. According to sources, the party leadership summoned him and gave him a serious dressing-down in the presence of three senior leaders. At one point, there was even talk of expelling him from the party. However, after his earnest apologies and repeated pleas, he appears to have been granted a reprieve, for now.

gakakkad wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 21:57 It would be very unusual for deora to break diplomatic rank and try pulling in such a stunt .
As far as diplomacy is concerned discipline has been stellar . Since 2014 no Indian diplomat be it the top dogs like PM , NSA ,MEA or some babu have spoken a word that is more than necessary or uncalled for . Would be highly unusual.

As an Indian-origin U.S. citizen (OCI cardholder), I wish to bring to your attention a serious development: the U.S. government has begun detaining foreign nationals, including Indian citizens, at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba, as part of an immigration enforcement policy. Recent reporting confirms that Indian nationals are among those held — possibly even those with no serious criminal convictions.

Given the sensitive history and legal controversies surrounding Guantanamo, I respectfully urge the Ministry to inquire into the status and legal treatment of any Indian nationals detained there. In cases involving low-risk individuals, including those awaiting deportation for civil immigration issues, it is especially critical that their human rights and consular protections are ensured.

The Indian government has a strong record of defending its citizens abroad, and your intervention could help ensure justice, transparency, and humane treatment.

QUESTION: Thank you so much. After the ceasefire between India and Pakistan, Pakistani Government and army chief appreciate the efforts of President Trump and nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize. But on the other hand, Indian Prime Minister Modi and his cabinet members continuously saying that President Trump has no role in the ceasefire between India and Pakistan. Even Jaishankar, when he met Secretary Rubio last week, after that meeting he told media that President Trump has nothing to do with the ceasefire between India and Pakistan. So what are your thoughts on these lies and rogue behavior of Modi cabinet members?

MS BRUCE: (Laughter.) I think I – so many comments speak for themselves. That’s one of the good-news aspects of our modern world is people can see what’s really occurring. You’re not reliant on a comment to know what has really happened.

The world is playing out in front of us in real time on big screens and small screens. Everyone will have an opinion. That’s an opinion. Some opinions are wrong. Mine rarely are but other people’s opinions can be wrong. (Laughter.) But that’s what we get to do is analyze and judgment, and the fact is is that we understand in front of us every day the clarity of what’s transpiring in our world.

We’re the first generation of a couple generations here – so many of you are much younger than I am – we’re my generation perhaps, I would say, growing up with a big TV that had the turn dial, and I was the remote control. It was, “Tammy, go change the channel.” And you change it. You’ve got four channels. And the speed, the exponential speed, of change of technology that now I would watch television on my phone that is in my hand, is natural for so many, but it reminds many of us of how quickly things will change, how much information we can get, and the seriousness of making up our own minds when it comes to the things that the world puts upon us.

Donald Trump is here to help make that easier and to help use this to make things clearer. Secretary Marco Rubio is in the same position, the Vice President of the United States also involved in the negotiations with Pakistan and India, JD Vance. Same dynamic, fresh views, new ideas, understanding the world as it sits, and making sure that it’s better when they leave. And they will be recognized for that.

That’s it for today, you guys. I will be here all week, and I will see you on Thursday. We will get – with many things up in the air, we will have – keep an eye on state.gov and releases that I put out, and also the President’s Truth Social, the Secretary of State’s X account.

QUESTION: At the recent Quad meeting, Indian Foreign Minister Jaishankar said India has every right to defend itself against terrorism and expect Quad partners to understand that. Given the situation that India shares the longest border with Bangladesh, given the situation – last week, ammunition linked to the last year violent anti-government movement in Bangladesh was found in the baggage of Yunus interim government advisor Asif Mahmud at Dhaka International Airport.

MS BRUCE: All right, okay —

QUESTION: And under the Yunus-led interim government, last week Sri Sri Durga Mandir, Hindu mandir, was demolished by government bulldozer, Hindu barber was taken —

MS BRUCE: All right. Now – now you —

QUESTION: And last one —

MS BRUCE: I – we try to avoid soliloquies or —

QUESTION: And what is your reaction? Thank you.

MS BRUCE: — or the little history lessons. I understand it’s a complicated, detailed dynamic involving India and Bangladesh. We understand that. We – there is – and I would send you to state.gov. I don’t – I’m not being trite here in this suggestion. There is – there are two statements regarding the Quad meeting, one from Secretary Rubio and a joint statement from all the partners that is quite extensive – and that is what we are willing to share about what happened in those meetings. So those are the purpose of the readouts.

I will certainly not characterize not only the Secretary’s position about the United States – I’m not certainly going to characterize India’s or any other nation’s position or statements in what is a diplomatic meeting. But I would suggest you see those – that joint statement, and I think we’ll be in good shape.

Now, behind you, in the blue shirt.

A_Gupta wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 04:54 US Dept of State briefing, July 8th. Two excerpts below. If you understand what was said, please post.

Pakistan:

... So what are your thoughts on these lies and rogue behavior of Modi cabinet members?

MS BRUCE: (Laughter.) ... so many of you are much younger than I am – we’re my generation perhaps, I would say, growing up with a big TV that had the turn dial, and I was the remote control. It was, “Tammy, go change the channel.” And you change it. You’ve got four channels. And the speed, the exponential speed, of change of technology that now I would watch television on my phone that is in my hand, is natural for so many, but it reminds many of us of how quickly things will change, how much information we can get, and the seriousness of making up our own minds when it comes to the things that the world puts upon us.
...

A_Gupta wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 04:54 US Dept of State briefing, July 8th. Two excerpts below. If you understand what was said, please post.

https://www.state.gov/briefings/departm ... IAPAKISTAN

Pakistan:
QUESTION: Thank you so much. After the ceasefire between India and Pakistan, Pakistani Government and army chief appreciate the efforts of President Trump and nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize. But on the other hand, Indian Prime Minister Modi and his cabinet members continuously saying that President Trump has no role in the ceasefire between India and Pakistan. Even Jaishankar, when he met Secretary Rubio last week, after that meeting he told media that President Trump has nothing to do with the ceasefire between India and Pakistan. So what are your thoughts on these lies and rogue behavior of Modi cabinet members?

MS BRUCE: (Laughter.) I think I – so many comments speak for themselves. That’s one of the good-news aspects of our modern world is people can see what’s really occurring. You’re not reliant on a comment to know what has really happened.

The world is playing out in front of us in real time on big screens and small screens. Everyone will have an opinion. That’s an opinion. Some opinions are wrong. Mine rarely are but other people’s opinions can be wrong. (Laughter.) But that’s what we get to do is analyze and judgment, and the fact is is that we understand in front of us every day the clarity of what’s transpiring in our world.

We’re the first generation of a couple generations here – so many of you are much younger than I am – we’re my generation perhaps, I would say, growing up with a big TV that had the turn dial, and I was the remote control. It was, “Tammy, go change the channel.” And you change it. You’ve got four channels. And the speed, the exponential speed, of change of technology that now I would watch television on my phone that is in my hand, is natural for so many, but it reminds many of us of how quickly things will change, how much information we can get, and the seriousness of making up our own minds when it comes to the things that the world puts upon us.

Donald Trump is here to help make that easier and to help use this to make things clearer. Secretary Marco Rubio is in the same position, the Vice President of the United States also involved in the negotiations with Pakistan and India, JD Vance. Same dynamic, fresh views, new ideas, understanding the world as it sits, and making sure that it’s better when they leave. And they will be recognized for that.

That’s it for today, you guys. I will be here all week, and I will see you on Thursday. We will get – with many things up in the air, we will have – keep an eye on state.gov and releases that I put out, and also the President’s Truth Social, the Secretary of State’s X account.

So what are your thoughts on these lies and rogue behavior of Modi cabinet members?

QUESTION: At the recent Quad meeting, Indian Foreign Minister Jaishankar said India has every right to defend itself against terrorism and expect Quad partners to understand that. Given the situation that India shares the longest border with Bangladesh, given the situation – last week, ammunition linked to the last year violent anti-government movement in Bangladesh was found in the baggage of Yunus interim government advisor Asif Mahmud at Dhaka International Airport.

MS BRUCE: All right, okay —

QUESTION: And under the Yunus-led interim government, last week Sri Sri Durga Mandir, Hindu mandir, was demolished by government bulldozer, Hindu barber was taken —

MS BRUCE: All right. Now – now you —

QUESTION: And last one —

MS BRUCE: I – we try to avoid soliloquies or —

QUESTION: And what is your reaction? Thank you.

MS BRUCE: — or the little history lessons. I understand it’s a complicated, detailed dynamic involving India and Bangladesh. We understand that. We – there is – and I would send you to state.gov. I don’t – I’m not being trite here in this suggestion. There is – there are two statements regarding the Quad meeting, one from Secretary Rubio and a joint statement from all the partners that is quite extensive – and that is what we are willing to share about what happened in those meetings. So those are the purpose of the readouts.

I will certainly not characterize not only the Secretary’s position about the United States – I’m not certainly going to characterize India’s or any other nation’s position or statements in what is a diplomatic meeting. But I would suggest you see those – that joint statement, and I think we’ll be in good shape.

Now, behind you, in the blue shirt.

A_Gupta wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025 22:16 I tried the KT-Bilawal interview and couldn’t get past 2 minutes.

Tanaji wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 18:42 Looks like Trump is going to put 500% tariff on anyone that buys oil from Russia.
...

Only 100% if Putin doesn't reach an agreement in next 50 days. 500% requires assent of the COTUS.

will behave in the same autocratic fashion

gakakkad wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 23:48 ^ this'll be a very challenging situation if it goes through. Neocons prevailed in securing a u turn from trump .

@deans : what are the odds of Russia ceasefire before September? What do you think is putins end game .

Tanaji wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 18:59 I an just amazed that the US institutions have rolled over so easily and the checks and balances don’t work.

A_Gupta wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 19:36 Agreed. There is no going back for the US.

A_Gupta wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 01:46 Zelenskyy signed off half of Ukraine’s mineral wealth to the US; what happens if those minerals are in the area Russia occupies?

Tanaji wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 23:27 Even the act of banning students will have Indians screaming blue murder and Muddi resign….

We Middle class Indians are the most vocal , expect the most and are the least willing to make sacrifices. Anyways, off topic….

gakakkad wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 02:11

A_Gupta wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 01:46 Zelenskyy signed off half of Ukraine’s mineral wealth to the US; what happens if those minerals are in the area Russia occupies?

Eastern Ukraine has anything of interest in Ukraine . Western Ukraine is just pakraine without any resources or anything at all.

“The Congress, especially with regard to matters related to national security policy, has thrust power and authority to the executive branch. We have created an imperial presidency. The Congress no longer is able to articulate a vision of what is the common good. The Congress exists primarily to ensure the reelection of members of Congress... As the Congress has moved to the margins, as the President has moved to the center of our politics, the presidency itself has come to be less effective...

Because of this preoccupation, this fascination with the presidency, the President has become what we have instead of genuine politics, instead of genuine democracy... We look to the next President to fix things and, of course, that lifts all responsibility from me to fix things. So one of the real problems with the imperial presidency is that it has hollowed out our politics and, in many respects, has made our democracy a false one. We’re going through the motions of a democratic political system, but the fabric of democracy really has worn very thin.”

A_Gupta wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 01:46 Zelenskyy signed off half of Ukraine’s mineral wealth to the US; what happens if those minerals are in the area Russia occupies?

A_Gupta wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 03:10 What is relevant from an Indian perspective is what China is and is becoming - more Marxist or more open market, more or less expansionist, more or less mired in difficult economics/politics tradeoffs.

Same with the US. For instance, is the US regime less or more likely to get Congressional authorization for military action? For setting trade policy and tariffs? More or less humans rights posturing? and so on, because the speed and intensity of the outcomes depend on which process is followed.


To come back to the point that @Vaayutuvan doesn’t want on this thread: (utterly presumptuous on @A_Gupta's part)

A_Gupta wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 03:10 To come back to the point that @Vaayutuvan doesn’t want on this thread: