look at thee comment- His wife Father Pakistani Muslim and wife Grandfather- Jewish. So looks the Pakistani racket murd did love Jehad on his wife and children.
MEA finds US embassy underpaying Indian workers
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"After Devyani Khobragade made headlines, several Indians employed by the American embassy contacted us with their grievances," a top government official said, adding, "we are keeping the ammunition dry for future use." Accused of tax and visa fraud by teachers employed at the American school, the US could well also be charged with underpaying Indians on its rolls.
<snip> Importantly, the wages are not just lower than their American colleagues, but are well below salaries received by Indians employed by the Indian government.
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So India won't enforce its own laws on its soil so as to not irritate Khan? I presume NYT WaPo won't write editorials emphasizing how this illustrates the US and Indian societies difference on subject of human equality (just because Americans are in the wrong here)?
MEA epitomizes Indian policy making of reacting to incidents and not shaping them. '
American consular officials who are guilty of underpaying should be arrested with human trafficking charges slapped on them. They can later be given full diplomatic immunity if SD requests it.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 13:39
by A_Gupta
Kati wrote:So his own karma has caught up with snob Dinesh D'Souza.....
....how pathetically D'Souza's "aamrikaan dream" is coming to an end. He epitomized
the concept of MUTU.
I would classify D'Souza as MMTM - More MUTU than MUTU.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 13:48
by habal
Munna's MO is pretty simple, he coolly does what is unavoidable as in a reaction to any crisis but when it comes to continuing on the path and shaping issues to our advantage when the heat is taken off the press .. he cleverly manipulates issues to Khan's advantage via PMO and NSA overarching control. Open confrontation with Indian Interest elements is not yet advisable so whatever is done as 'reaction' in India can be done only in the heat of the situation.
Also regarding AmberG's rather naive approach to classify PB as an equal opportunity babu, someone who cracks his whip irrespective of religion or nationality, one needs to look at SD's motives to get the full picture, does anyone think after Aparna Srivastava's evidence that the SD will hire any PoI in higher positions unless they are suitably trained drain inspectors or of questionable motives and anti-Indic inclinations like PB.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 14:01
by shiv
Amber G. wrote:
Fast Facts:
• Born in Ferozepur, India, in 1968. His family moved to Monmouth County, New Jersey, two years later.
• Graduated from Harvard University in 1990 and Columbia Law School in 1993. That summer, he spent several weeks as a volunteer for Mark Green's successful campaign for New York City public advocate.
Any information about his father and schooling?
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 14:05
by Anand K
Is there any "Yankee White" type test/psych-evals to see if the immigrant/2nd Gen person can be put in such powerful posts? Well, there's the glass ceiling all right but is there something institutionalized?
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 14:07
by shiv
I have a noob question.
If you are getting strip searched or cavity searched in the US it is done by a same sex (as you) person. But how do you know if the person doing the searching is not homosexual and is not deriving sexual gratification from you in the guise of a statutory stripping? What safeguards are there to ensure that a strip search is not a homosexual pjornographic/voyeuristic pleasure trip for the person doing it? Does one have no rights to ensure that one is not being sexually exploited or violated while being strip searched or cavity searched?
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 14:50
by SSridhar
Amber G. wrote:SSridhar - PB has been on cover of Time, won person of the year award from India abroad (Indian News paper published in US), so I assumed people know it. He is also quite well known for prosecuting people like Faisal Shazad, (Time square Bomber),Ahmed Ghailani,(Al Qaeda U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania), Affia Siddiqui, and Pakis like, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed...
Amber G, India Abroad is an unknown entity in India. Few read Time. Yes, of course, his name is known but not those fine details.
. . Bharara is on a list released from Putin (Russia) for Americans banned from entering the country over human rights violations..
India has stronger reasons to ban him from entering India.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 14:55
by pankajs
We should not ban him but put him on the "Special treatment on Arrival" list.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 14:57
by vic
Rape is powerplay to subjugate and humilate. It is hardly an issue if the rapist enjoys physically.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 15:04
by Anand K
Let's hold our mijjiles till he demonstrates continuing vindictiveness and hostility, eh? Even with open source information I think we might be able to distinguish that from mere scrambling to salvage his H&D.
If PB indeed goes all John Joel Glanton (I will refrain from using Judge Holden for now) collecting Injun-scalps to prove something to Washington D.C ...... well, we can draw a few Blood Meridians of our own. I mean, we are boor and brown and all but a Red Corner Notice and being on our sh1t-list could deal some damage.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 15:24
by JE Menon
shiv wrote:I have a noob question.
If you are getting strip searched or cavity searched in the US it is done by a same sex (as you) person. But how do you know if the person doing the searching is not homosexual and is not deriving sexual gratification from you in the guise of a statutory stripping? What safeguards are there to ensure that a strip search is not a homosexual pjornographic/voyeuristic pleasure trip for the person doing it? Does one have no rights to ensure that one is not being sexually exploited or violated while being strip searched or cavity searched?
This is indeed a very valid point. Equally possible, what if the cop is bisexual (or these days even "trisexual" - a shemale who swings in every possible direction). How can the examinee be certain that the examiner has no ulterior motives. Furthermore, how does one ensure, for instance in a roadside search where all gloves are off, that the gloves are not literally off. Moreover, given that the cavities are - in the case of females - in close proximity, who verifies whether the use of gloves is totally hygienic. Who monitors the glove change, if they are changed at all? Is there a standardised cavity examination routine in every state? Or does each state have its own routine, tailored to local pecularities? If the latter, what are the regulations for digital insertion - single, double, all five? Fisting with one hand or Diving with both?.... Questions, questions... Should this be in Shreeman's thread?
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 15:41
by Singha
I just read the list of characters in Blood Meridian....truly insane..only a genius could have cooked up such a list.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 17:01
by vic
Bharara is being talked up to show that huge crime fighting effort is going on against Wall Street. But he is not allowed to touch WASPs and Jews, what is left is some johnny come lately "Indians" who are being thrown to wolves. Look at the admitted crimes of Wall Street banks:-
Fixing LIBOR
Fixing Commodities like Aluminium prices
Fixing Crude oil prices
Illegal selling of useless insurance products
Fixing Forex markets
Money laundering for drug cartels
Money laundering for Iran
Not one person arrested or strip searched but maid wage dispute has Bharara roaring like a tiger. USA not only has the largest prison population in the world but most of them are raped daily in the name of security.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 17:04
by vic
shiv wrote:I have a noob question.
If you are getting strip searched or cavity searched in the US it is done by a same sex (as you) person. But how do you know if the person doing the searching is not homosexual and is not deriving sexual gratification from you in the guise of a statutory stripping? What safeguards are there to ensure that a strip search is not a homosexual pjornographic/voyeuristic pleasure trip for the person doing it? Does one have no rights to ensure that one is not being sexually exploited or violated while being strip searched or cavity searched?
Rape is power play to subjugate and humiliate. It is hardly an issue if the rapist enjoys physically.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 18:26
by UlanBatori
Seems MEA is just using these cases as negotiating tactic. If so, they deserve the treatment they get.
Exactly. Where are a) BeeJayPee, b) CPI(M), c) AyeAyePee
on this I wonder? Shouldn't Bharat Somnath or whoever the AAP's answer to Preet Bharara is, lead his team of dedicated, experienced cavity searchers to these dens of inequity operated by foreigners in plain view on the pure, holy soil of Dilli? I am
On another question, maybe it is time to ask the classic legal question that comes from my deep legal training:
Qui Bono?
which as I understand from my equally deep Latin ejjikashun means, who wins from making the Great Round-Eyed Capitarist Impeliarist Satan quarrel with the SDRE Yindoos?
"Khalistan" is not the real answer, they are no more than hyenas. But this line of CT leads quite directly to the entities now at the top of the SD, and maybe a lot of unseen hands behind DupleeCity power politics. I think for these folks Preet Bharara is not only expendable, he would be very nice to get out of the way.
AmberG, your argument on PB's "evenhandedness" has some problems. PB had no direct role in the tracking down and arrest of all those terrorist entities (he doesn't in any event, he's the prosecutor). He was just going through the motions there, as dictated by Feds. Is it the same here I wonder, though the cited law is Noo Yoik state minimum wage, not Fed. minimum wage. If that is not violated, then what is written on the Fed form is irrelevant. Intricate web. Very hard to resolve.
OTOH, I have to ask Qui Bono? on PB's move against DD. The answers there may be getting a lot more hopeful. It is one thing to arrest a foreign brown heathain wimmens. Quite another to arrest a major Lepubrican donor. So if a bijnej owner gives raises from her own Cayman Islands acct. to her employees who donate to the local Republican Congresswimmen's re-election fund, PB will arrest and cavity-search her?
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 18:36
by UlanBatori
Take a moment to look at it from PB's pov. He can't get convictions against any of the Wall Street tycoons, and that is putting his Patron BO in deep doo-doo. Worse, it is going to hit the Democrat vote count heavily in this November's Midterm elections. So he has to prosecute SOMEONE that he can bully? AND win points in the WH? That decision to move against DD is sheer desperation. I can't really see a jury convicting for the claimed crime there.
What next? NEW YORK PROSECUTOR FILES FELONY CHARGES AGAINST 90-YEAR-OLD GM (GrandMa) FOR CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY TO JAYWALK, DEMANDS 30-YEAR SENTENCE?
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 21:51
by SBajwa
you guys are going against Preetinder Singh just as he is doing his job. The real target should be John Kerry and Obama.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 21:53
by krithivas
If you haven’t heard, noted conservative commentator, Jesus freak and, naturally, philanderer, Dinesh D’Souza was indicted on Thursday for using straw donors in order to donate to Wendy Long’s Senate campaign against Kirsten E. Gillibrand. Long and D’Souza had been old college friends at Dartmouth.
Question is whether PB is "just doing his job" (rather poorly, since the villains of 2008 economic crash seem to be getting away), doing his job justly, or something else. So far the indictment seems damning. He is most certainly being ham-handed, using strong-arm measures way out of proportion to the "risks" posed by accused people, and trampling on the Presumption of Innocence of these people.
So per his charts, some error on a visa application merits 15 years in jail, handcuffing, cavity searches etc.
But cheating millions of people for decades, out of $$B, driving people out of their homes, etc etc. merit - what? Nothing yet. No, with his awesome credentials, he can't be THAT incompetent. Therefore, the suspicion persists and grows, that he is far from "doing his job".
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 22:21
by Sagar G
SBajwa wrote:you guys are going against Preetinder Singh just as he is doing his job. The real target should be John Kerry and Obama.
I assure you while targeting Dobby, his masters aren't being forgotten.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 22:57
by member_22733
UlanBatori wrote:Question is whether PB is "just doing his job" (rather poorly, since the villains of 2008 economic crash seem to be getting awy), doing his job justly, or something else. So far the indictment seems damning. He is most certainly being ham-handed, using strong-arm measures way out of proportion to the "risks" posed by accused people, and trampling on the Presumption of Innocence of these people.
So per his charts, some error on a visa application merits 15 years in jail, handcuffing, cavity searches etc.
But cheating millions of people for decades, out of $$B, driving people out of their homes, etc etc. merit - what? Nothing yet. No, with his awesome credentials, he can't be THAT incompetent. Therefore, the suspicion persists and grows, that he is far from "doing his job".
PB has a simple modus operandi. He will never ever target the mafia bosses. He will only target the small time criminal person with no support network who allegedly broke some or the other (possibly obscure) law with or without the intent of doings so. The white-boy support network is huge in wall street. PB would really be lynched one way or the other if he goes after one of those guys. So PB targets people who dont have much connections in the US to hurt him. Russians, Chinese, Indians (including Dinesh D'Sleazeball). Poor Dinesh might think white-boy network might be able to save him, but I bet they will wash their hands off him as soon as they get a chance. That is the ultimate price of being a MUTU (or in this case MMTM). Massa wont help you when you need Massa the most, Massa will extract every little thing you can do for him and leave you out to dry for whatever remains in you.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 23:04
by sunilUpa
LokeshC wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:Question is whether PB is "just doing his job" (rather poorly, since the villains of 2008 economic crash seem to be getting awy), doing his job justly, or something else. So far the indictment seems damning. He is most certainly being ham-handed, using strong-arm measures way out of proportion to the "risks" posed by accused people, and trampling on the Presumption of Innocence of these people.
So per his charts, some error on a visa application merits 15 years in jail, handcuffing, cavity searches etc.
But cheating millions of people for decades, out of $$B, driving people out of their homes, etc etc. merit - what? Nothing yet. No, with his awesome credentials, he can't be THAT incompetent. Therefore, the suspicion persists and grows, that he is far from "doing his job".
The white-boy support network is huge in wall street. PB would really be lynched one way or the other if he goes after one of those guys.
Eric Schneiderman did go after JPMC. Who has the jurisidiction here. NY attorney general or PB?
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 24 Jan 2014 23:13
by member_22733
Depends on where the crime has been committed and also what type of crime has been committed. For example: If a "crime" crosses state boundaries then the FBI gets involved to investigate it. If it has violated any federal laws the federal prosecutor will get involved. If a crime violated federal laws but no state or county laws then the federal prosecutor gets involved (in this case it would be smoking pot in Colorado for example). DK was accused of violating a federal law. I believe for D'Sleazeball it was the same.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 00:03
by Kati
The Shockingly Low Salaries of Professional Cheerleaders
The Raiderettes’ lawyer, who is demanding tens of thousands of dollars in back-pay, said the cheerleaders make only $1,250 a year, or less than $5 an hour, and they’re fined for minor lapses like bringing the wrong pom-poms to rehearsals or for “not turning in written biographies on time.” One of the plaintiffs added that the team also makes the women foot their own hair, makeup, travel, and photo expenses
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 00:27
by KJo
What about waiters in restaurants? They are not paid even minimum wage. What are they SLAVES????
The excuse is that they can get by on tips. How come this is not publicized?
Watch what happens when Obama picks a top donor as ambassador
by Olivier Knox, Yahoo News, news.yahoo.com
January 23rd 2014 11:19 AM
This is why a future president might finally do away with the practice of nominating a top political donor to be an ambassador.
Here’s how the White House described wealthy executive George Tsunis when President Barack Obama nominated him to be the top U.S. diplomat in Norway in September 2013:
“George J. Tsunis is the Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Chartwell Hotels, LLC. From 1999 to 2009, Mr. Tsunis was of counsel at Rivkin Radler, LLP and served as partner since 2005. Mr. Tsunis was Special Counsel to the Town of Huntington Committee on Open Space Preservation as well as Counsel to the Dix Hills Water District from 2003 to 2009. From 1998 to 1999, he practiced law at Goldberg & Cohen in Brooklyn, NY. From 1996 to 1998, he was a Legislative Attorney at the New York City Council. Mr. Tsunis received a B.A. from New York University and a J.D. from St. John's University School of Law.”
Missing: diplomatic credentials, obvious ties to Norway.
But a trip to the website of the Center for Responsive Politics that tracks campaign donations might help to explain how Tsunis — and not, say, a career diplomat — got the nod.
In the 2012 cycle, Tsunis and his wife, Olga, are listed among the “top individual contributors” on the strength of having given $267,244, roughly 89% of which went to Democrats and 10% to Republicans. In all, he raised $988,550 for Obama and gave $300,000 to Democratic super PACs and $75,800 to the Obama Victory Fund.
Tsunis became a Democrat in November 2009 — after giving $50,000 to Republican Sen. John McCain’s 2008 campaign.
So it’s perhaps fitting that it was the tart-tongued Arizona senator’s questions that elicited his sloppy confirmation hearing performance last week (it starts at about 1:14 here).
To recap: Tsunis described Norway as having a president (“apparently under the impression that the country is a republic rather than a constitutional monarchy,” as the Local Norway's News notes dryly). And he characterized the anti-immigration Progress Party as being among “fringe elements” who “spew their hatred” and have been denounced by the government.
That prompted McCain’s disbelieving answer: “The government has denounced them? The coalition government — they're part of the coalition of the government.”
McCain, already flummoxed by the apparent inability of Obama’s choice to be ambassador to Hungary to list strategic U.S. interests there, closed his questioning with a bit of sarcasm: “I have no more questions for this incredibly highly qualified group of nominees.”
Obama did not start the practice of picking big donors to be ambassadors. And he (probably) won't be the last president to do so. But at a time when Americans mistrust their government and are cynical about their politicians, choices like these don't help.
It’s not irrelevant overseas, either: TheLocal.no targets English speakers living in Norway. And Norwegian media described Tsunis as having “trampled through the salad bowl.”
Oh: A search for “Tsunis” on the White House website does turn up evidence of a previous foray into the sensitive world of international relations: He and his wife were guests at the State Dinner the Obamas threw in 2012 to honor British Prime Minister David Cameron.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 01:01
by Amber G.
shiv wrote:
Amber G. wrote:
Fast Facts:
• Born in Ferozepur, India, in 1968. His family moved to Monmouth County, New Jersey, two years later.
• Graduated from Harvard University in 1990 and Columbia Law School in 1993. That summer, he spent several weeks as a volunteer for Mark Green's successful campaign for New York City public advocate.
Any information about his father and schooling?
There are of course many open sources where one can get more details (as they are fairly well known) but some points may be of interest, since you asked.
Jagdish Bharara (Preet and Vinit’s father) a Sikh, had an arranged marriage with a Hindu, both their families uprooted in 1947 partition.
Jagdish Bharara, was poor, hardworking and good student (first from his family to go to college - went to medical school) After marriage and kids ( Preet etc), Jagdish made what he called a difficult decision to temporarily move to England to do his medical residency. In the early 1970s, the family moved to the United States and settled in NJ. Jagdish built a thriving pediatric medical practice, his wife stayed at home.
Both sons (Preet and Vinit) went to good schools (Harvard), were very good students, rose very fast.. top to their respective fields ..as you know Vinit B's diapers business was sold to Amazon for half a billion dollars.
The father is very well respected by PB, and PB has often talked about his father in glowing terms
When he was sworn in as US Attorney PB said (often quoted) some thing to the effect about his father..: “Given the sacrifices he has made, the example he has set, and the life he has led, he will never be more proud of me than I am of him,”
Hope this helps.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 01:02
by KLNMurthy
UlanBatori wrote:
...
OTOH, I have to ask Qui Bono? on PB's move against DD. The answers there may be getting a lot more hopeful. It is one thing to arrest a foreign brown heathain wimmens. Quite another to arrest a major Lepubrican donor. So if a bijnej owner gives raises from her own Cayman Islands acct. to her employees who donate to the local Republican Congresswimmen's re-election fund, PB will arrest and cavity-search her?
You may be aware that DD, who till recently held a multimillion dollar job as prez of an EJ university, has been caught in an adultery scandal. His anti-obama documentary for 2012 didn't produce the desired result either, though it seems to have made money.
All that might be causing the right wing to not fight that hard for him, in the face of Obama's revenge.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 03:31
by member_28380
SBajwa wrote:you guys are going against Preetinder Singh just as he is doing his job. The real target should be John Kerry and Obama.
The alternate theory (which seems to be more believable and more widely accepted) is PB is mostly responsible for the diplomatic crisis.
It is true the SD initiated the proceedings, but the way the prosecution case was framed, and more importantly how it was implemented
250 K bail, strip search, arresting the diplomat while dropping her at the schoold are most likely all orchestrated by PB.
Could Arrest of Indian Diplomat Sink Preet BhararaTuesday, December 17, 2013
Scroll to middle of the web page here: http://garyweiss.blogspot.com/
Imagine How Much Preet Bharara Could Accomplish If He Had Even Fewer Resources http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/03/think ... ould-accom
Dec. 3, 2013 7:31 pm
Hear rumblings from NY legal community of PB being a cowboy/ showboy:
"Sounds like good news to me, since Bharara's understanding of his mission includes pernicious uses of taxpayer money such as prosecuting people for helping New Yorkers play poker online, for connecting drug suppliers with consumers, and even for passing out pamphlets about jury nullification. If anything, Bharara's office would benefit from the prioritization that budget cuts require."
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 03:38
by member_28380
However PB has indirectly done a favor to India, unanticipated.
If the arrest had been carried out in a more dignified way, he wouldn't have aroused so much passion amongst Indians/GOI.
He made it much much easier for GOI to find spine and stand up. Otherwise GOI officialdom might have just twiddled fingers.
"It was absolutely involuntary. They sank my boat." --President John Kennedy, answering a little boy on how he became a hero
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 03:42
by saip
KJoishy wrote:What about waiters in restaurants? They are not paid even minimum wage. What are they SLAVES????
The excuse is that they can get by on tips. How come this is not publicized?
Restaurant management is supposed to make good the difference (between their wage of $2:15 and the min wage of 7:25 in NY) if they don't get enough tips. Remember though they still have to pay FICA and Medicare taxes and to and fro transport, Health insurance and lodging. But for live in workers there are whole new rules. And if they are on A3 visas another set of rules (must have US bank account, to and fro fare to their native country etc). Are these rules (they ARE rules) framed by some babu in SD discriminatory and violate the minimum wages act and the US Constitution's equality guarantee?
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 03:47
by UlanBatori
Sad. I think PB is headed the same way as the zealous prosecutor in Raleigh/Durham NC after the disastrous rape case against the Duke football players (where, come to think of it, the eventual outcome may not have met Alla*'s approval). If not in this case then in another - seems to have the Keystone Kops genes built in, and he's getting worse. Let's see if the "complex legal issue" that he cited have brought him some sense, come Jan. 31. I doubt it. He has the same Boy Stood On The Burning Deck / Jeehaad mentality.
The concluding sentence of that story:
The sheriff said Mr. Nifong would be held alone in a cell for his protection.
LokeshC wrote:
PB has a simple modus operandi. He will never ever target the mafia bosses. He will only target the small time criminal person with no support network who allegedly broke some or the other (possibly obscure) law with or without the intent of doings so. The white-boy support network is huge in wall street. PB would really be lynched one way or the other if he goes after one of those guys. So PB targets people who dont have much connections in the US to hurt him. Russians, Chinese, Indians (including Dinesh D'Sleazeball). Poor Dinesh might think white-boy network might be able to save him, but I bet they will wash their hands off him as soon as they get a chance. That is the ultimate price of being a MUTU (or in this case MMTM). Massa wont help you when you need Massa the most, Massa will extract every little thing you can do for him and leave you out to dry for whatever remains in you.
To be fair, the fame of PB is that he targeted mafia bosses like no one else. That is how he rose to fame .. against the most poweful mafia bosses. .. He rose to fame when he was quite junior (around 2004) when 30 members of powerful mafia were arrested in a single morning... And he did send scores of people to jail from Gambino family.. Check out wikl (or any google Bharara and mafia))..
And on wall street he went against some of the most powerful people.. by any standard.. no one doubts that. and his conviction rate is probably higher than anyone in the history.
Please note that Pakis like Faisal Shazad, the Times Square Bomber got life, and many of his accomplishes are in jail in relatively short time. (Compare this to India, or some other US cases, where similar cases have been dragged on for years - some Mumbai 1993 culprits still escaped justice.. and the case lingered for decades..)
This is why DK's case is so unusual... what was he thinking??? (when he gave that press conference and poured gasoline on fire)
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 04:04
by johneeG
PB character seems very similar to dhesh's own Subbu Swamy. Both have a family with all kinds of religious background. Both have a jewish wife. Both are known to target high-profile guys/gals with court cases.
The difference is that the amirkhans have given a legal position to PB and are using him. While, in dhesh, Subbu Swamy is still doing things on his own and has not been adopted by the system... that maybe changing...
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RajeshA saar's and Ramana Garu's theory seems to be the big game plan. O'bomber has talked about slavery and human trafficking. He has been trying to garner some sympathy on this issue. BTW, slavery has been in focus with the recent movie 12 years a slave. Dems have sympathizers in Holly.
So, they zeroed in on Bhaarath to score some easy brownie points. EJs, jihadhis, racists,...etc played their roles.
And if it incites a revolution in Bhaarath, then why not? But, so far, Fordriwal has failed on that front.
There has also been amirkhan propagandu about cheen's dismal conditions of workers. So overall the attempt seems to be raise the cost of manufacture in BRICS, so that manufacturing can return to amirkhan.
Meanwhile, See Eye A sponsored nGos, will try to enrich the democracy(by fighting for the rights of wimmen, slaves, low-castes, gays, animals, single-mothers, widows, environment ...etc etc) or if possible bring a full on revolution to clear the corruption.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 04:10
by UlanBatori
That's what I am saying too, AmberG. What was he thinking? WAS he thinking? "Out of control" esp as re-election looks. Sharks sensing blood in the water don't "think". See the Duke case. That guy also thought he was going to ride on "going after the Mafia" there too, but he should have gone after the real Mafia, not after a big university sports team filled with "All-American" bacche against a (IIRC) poor black unwed/divorced mother trying to make a living as a striptease worker. It was no contest. What was the truth? We will never know. But prosecutors should not allow their Power to blind them to the constitutional presumption of innocence. Of course here there is no danger for PB: The GOI is already showing as much spine as a wet noodle. No danger of devastating counter-lawsuits against NYC and the Feds.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 04:25
by Amber G.
UlanBatori wrote:Sad. I think PB is headed the same way as the zealous prosecutor in Raleigh/Durham NC after the disastrous rape case against the Duke football players (where, come to think of it, the eventual outcome may not have met Alla*'s approval).
This was duke lacrosse team (not football) but funny thing you mentioned here. (Those who do not know about it, the book "Until Proven Innocent: Political Correctness and the Shameful Injustices ..." by KC Johnson is a very worth while reading book about prosecutor's misconduct, media, courts etc in US -- I highly recommend this book)
I was thinking.. (and talking to some lawyers who know US Law).. Only reason Nifong spend a day in Jail was because his work as "investigator" was not covered by "prosecutor" immunity (and he was careless to be present when a interview of a witness was being done by one of the investigators). PB's immunity as prosecutor is quite strong.. No false arrest charges can be filed (in US) against him, as long as, he does only prosecutor's job... But if he is involved in any police work (or investigative work) or even helped in investigation.. that part is not covered by immunity. (Very similar to PB's understanding of "consular immunity").. I wonder if PB's office provided any input to DS or DSS..
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Posted: 25 Jan 2014 06:03
by shiv
Reply to Theo Fidel's interesting (to me) poser in the USPos thread.
Theo_Fidel wrote:
So how would this thread create "animus" between two nations?
It would not. It would turn off common Americans though. The vast majority of whom have good feelings for India and Indians.
Imagine there was a 'pojitiv news about India' thread on mainstream American forums.
Mainstream western media have had "positive news" about India for so long it appears that many of us don't even recognize that for what it is, but imagine that returning the compliment would somehow piss off Americans. Unnecessarily.
But your comment about Americans fascinated me. First that a sarcastic positive news thread that holds a mirror up to America would turn off Americans and the second that the majority of Americans have good feelings for India and Indians. I will not argue with the latter part - maybe the majority do have good feelings, but the idea that those good feelings would somehow be ruffled if Indians changed their outward behaviour and "dropped their masks" as it were, is a most fascinating and very very Indian attitude. Nothing wrong, but many of us Indians do lay emphasis on hiding true feelings and not being forthright and up front. This also gives Indians the reputation of being sneaks in some circles and some situations. It's an Indian thing, and it is exactly the opposite of the American thing of being up front, frank and forthright. To the point of boorishness.
Being frank and forthright causes Indians discomfort because we are taught that it is impolite to be up front and tell someone that he is a boor. Ironically all I am doing is trying to be frank and up front about what I feel. You are asking me to hide that and go back to being an Indian with politeness on my lips but contrary thoughts in in my heart. No. I am not going to do that.