Understanding the US - Again

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/wok ... 15241.html
The ‘woke’ language Democrats have been told to stop using
David Millward
Mon, August 25, 2025 at 2:06 PM CDT 7 min read
Rahm Emanuel, Chicago’s former Democrat mayor who is widely reported to be considering a 2028 presidential run, acknowledged his party’s problem with messaging in June.

“Why do Democrats have a problem?” he asked The Bulwark podcast host, Tim Miller. “Because we’re punks, and we not only talk like punks, we talk down to people. We get caught up in a set of issues that aren’t relevant.”

The memo concluded: “When we use words people don’t understand, studies show that the part of their brain that signals distrust becomes more active, undermining our ability to reach them.”

“We will never abandon our values or stop doing things to protect those who need help, encouragement, trust, a second chance, acceptance, a fair shake, and the opportunity to pursue life, liberty and happiness.
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  1. Therapy speak
  2. Seminar room language
  3. Organiser jargon
  4. Gender and orientation correctness
  5. Racial constructs
  6. Explaining away crime
Therapy speak
According to the memo: “These words say: ‘I’m more empathetic than you, and you are callous to hurting others’ feelings’.”

Privilege: Advantages experienced based on race, gender, or social identity
Violence (environmental): Harm caused by pollution and climate change, often marginalised communities
Dialoguing: Reaching mutual understanding through open conversation
Othering: Treating people with different characteristics unkindly or pushing them out of the group
Triggering: Causing emotional distress by recalling past trauma or harm
Microaggression/assault/invalidation: Small, sometimes unintentional, acts that undermine or offend marginalised groups
Progressive stack: Projecting the voices of those who face the most adversity above others
Centring: Making a viewpoint or group the focus of discussion
Safe space: An environment free of judgment and discrimination
Holding space: Offering silent support without judgment or interruption
Body shaming: Shaming someone for how their body looks

Seminar room language
Using this language suggests “I’m smarter and more concerned about important issues than you. Your kitchen table concerns are small,” according to the memo.

Subverting norms: Promoting equality by challenging tradition
Systems of oppression: Societal and institutional structures that further discriminate of marginalised groups
Critical theory: The analysis of the intersection of power, inequality, and social justice
Cultural appropriation: Adopting or using aspects of another culture without respect or understanding
Postmodernism: Questioning the status quo and amplifying perspectives of those not usually heard
Overton Window: Range of political ideas considered acceptable to discuss
Heuristic: Assumptions made by voters
Existential threat: Immediate danger to humanity

Organiser jargon
According to the memo, using language such as this says: “We are beholden to groups, not individuals. People have no agency.”

Radical transparency: Unbounded openness with the public
Small ‘d’ democracy: Democratic principles that are not a result of party politics
Barriers to participation: Obstacles stopping people from taking part in all aspects of civic life
Stakeholders: The core group of people affected by policy decisions
The unhoused: Homeless people
Food insecurity: Unreliable access to food
Housing insecurity: Unreliable access to shelter and safe living conditions
Person who immigrated: Immigrant, migrant

Gender and orientation correctness
Using ultra-politically correct terms like these project an air of “your views on traditional genders and gender roles are at best quaint,” the memo says.

Birthing person/inseminated person: “Gender neutral” term for a woman who is in, or will be in, labour
Pregnant people: “Gender neutral” term for a pregnant woman
Chest feeding: Breastfeeding
Cisgender: A person who identifies with the gender they were assigned at birth
Deadnaming: Using a transgender person’s given name
Heteronormative: The assumption that everyone is straight
Patriarchy: A system built to benefit men
LGBTQIA+: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Intersex, Asexual and any other sexuality

The shifting language of racial constructs
Using this language gives the people the impression they will “be called out as racist if [they] do not use the latest and correct terminology,” the memo states.

Latinx: A term used for someone with Latin American heritage that negates the need for the gendered “a” or “o” at the end of the word, indicating a male or female
BIPOC: An acronym for Black, Indigenous, and people of colour
Allyship: Supporting a marginalised group without being a part of that group
Intersectionality: Overlapping characteristics that can intensify discrimination
Minoritised communities: Groups on the fringe of society owing to discrimination

Explaining away crime
Using this language implies “the criminal is the victim,” according to the memo.

Justice-involved: Those who have interacted with the justice system
Carceration: Detaining people
Incarcerated people: People in prison
Involuntary confinement: Being detained without consent
The memo is from a center-left think tank called The Third Way. The original article is here.

https://www.thirdway.org/memo/was-it-something-i-said
MEMO Published August 22, 2025 6 minute read
Was It Something I Said?
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https://www.thirdway.org/memo/was-it-something-i-said
MEMO Published August 22, 2025 6 minute read
Was It Something I Said?

For a party that spends billions of dollars trying to find the perfect language to connect to voters, Democrats and their allies use an awful lot of words and phrases no ordinary person would ever dream of saying. The intent of this language is to include, broaden, empathize, accept, and embrace. The effect of this language is to sound like the extreme, divisive, elitist, and obfuscatory, enforcers of wokeness. To please the few, we have alienated the many—especially on culture issues, where our language sounds superior, haughty and arrogant.

In reality, most Democrats do not run or govern on wildly out-of-touch social positions. But voters would be excused to believe we do because of the words that come out of our mouths—words which sound like we are hiding behind unfamiliar phrases to mask extreme intent.

Why the tortured language? After all, many Democrats are aware that the words and phrases we use can be profoundly alienating. But they use it because plain, authentic language that voters understand often rebounds badly among many activists and advocacy organizations. These activists and advocates may take on noble causes, but in doing so they often demand compliance with their preferred messages; that is how “birthing person” became a stand-in for mother or mom. And if we don’t think more carefully about our language, many in America will be banking on help from Donald Trump and Republicans, because Democratic levers of power will be few and far between.
Speaking for myself below: Ignore if you feel that your getting personally attacked.
It boggles my mind that Democrats still think that they lost 2024 due to language and language only. What is at issue for Democrats is that they have structural problems within the party.

I usually vote for centrists from either party in both national and local elections. But their frothing at the mouth eliteness is geeting to me.
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Jay wrote: 26 Aug 2025 02:58
Democrats will take away the right to "bear arms". Then Mamdani will take away the right to "bare arms".
Wow, it's uttered with so much confidence, I almost forgot it made zero sense.
Alright. I will make it "Democrats might take away the right to bear arms but Mamdani will surely bring in Sharia to NYC". :wink:
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Rudradev wrote: 26 Aug 2025 03:08 I wonder what the conservative Heritage Foundation thinks of that. Has their vaunted Project 2025 gone off the rails and veered towards... socialism?
RD, you are misreading. Intel is too important to fail. It is not party specific.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Pritzker
Rachel Pritzker is an American heiress of the Pritzker family fortune, a center-left Democratic activist and funder, and a proponent of ecomodernism. She is the chair of Third Way, the Breakthrough Institute, and the Pritzker Innovation Fund. She was a founding board member of Media Matters of America and the Democracy Alliance. Her mother is Linda Pritzker.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America
In 2004, MMfA began with the help of $2 million in donations.[4][5] That year MMfA received the endorsement of the Democracy Alliance, a partnership of wealthy and politically active progressive donors. The Alliance itself does not fund endorsees, but many wealthy Alliance members acted on the endorsement and donated directly to MMfA.[12][13][14] In 2010, George Soros donated $1 million to MMfA citing concerns that the "incendiary rhetoric of Fox News hosts may incite violence."[15][16] In a 2014 CNN interview, David Brock said that Soros's contributions were "less than 10 percent" of Media Matters' budget.[17][18]
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Vayutuvan wrote: 26 Aug 2025 03:20
Alright. I will make it "Democrats might take away the right to bear arms but Mamdani will surely bring in Sharia to NYC". :wink:
As if mamdani's "sharia" is any different to current republican sharia being implemented by the pedo trump! On second thought, mamdani's platform seem to be way more neutral than the current trump's turbocharged cruelty agenda.
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Jay wrote: 26 Aug 2025 04:08 ... mamdani's platform seem to be way more neutral than the current trump's turbocharged cruelty agenda.
Good joke that. Probably NYC folks are hoping that all those left NYC for Florida would come back to Mamdani's hellhole only to find themselves in an NYC as in "Escape from NY" and then try to get out. You have to have Kurt Russell like stature to be able to do that.
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Jay wrote: 26 Aug 2025 04:08
Vayutuvan wrote: 26 Aug 2025 03:20
Alright. I will make it "Democrats might take away the right to bear arms but Mamdani will surely bring in Sharia to NYC". :wink:
As if mamdani's "sharia" is any different to current republican sharia being implemented by the pedo trump! On second thought, mamdani's platform seem to be way more neutral than the current trump's turbocharged cruelty agenda.

Exactly . Could contrary to expectation trump is one of the most pro-islamist POTUS so far . He wined and dined with failed marshal , isis alumni , al Shara and accepted bribe from al thani the epicenter of Moslem brotherhood. The only thing saving Israel is Jared kushner is married to ivanka and his dad was close to Bibi . Else he would have sold them out as well and you can see people like mtg and rapidly rising antisemitism on the right that goes hand in hand with all the Hindu phobia .
Djt is a con artist and many including me and other rw desis got conned. I've never regretted doing anything in life as I have regretted voting for this dude.
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Many people in the center voted for Trump because the other side had swung too far to the left, not even the traditional left but the post-2010 fringe progressives, and next elections people will vote for democrats because GOP swung too far to the right and fell off the cliff and into the maga abyss! US will continue to swing from one extreme to another until some equilibrium is found, probably it will take another great depression or a great war for sanity to be restored.

As for Israel, i hope they have a plan B because they are within 3-4 yrs of losing US support. The below 40 population in the US is vehemently against Israel and its very existence, it is only a matter of time before US goes Europe's way and starts holding back arms and begins sanctions. Part of the blame is definitely on Bibi, Smotrich, Benny Gantz and other lunatics who have ensured that not only the younger Israelis but jews everywhere will live in fear for many years to come. The current war is meaningless, and with ever incident like the one at Nasser Hospital today, Israel will lose more and more support in the west.

In other news, Trump just fired one of Federal Reserve Governors..oh well..
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Ah, Biden gave $39 billion to chip companies as grants as incentives; and Trump is converting grants into equity.

As Reuters reports:
The awards were part of the 2022 Chips and Science Act, which sought to lure chip production away from Asia and boost American domestic semiconductor output with $39 billion in subsidies.

But Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick is now looking into the government taking equity stakes in embattled Intel and other chipmakers in exchange for the grants, sources told Reuters on Tuesday, as the Trump administration seeks "equity" in return for "investments."

The unusual alignment between Sanders and President Trump on government ownership stakes in private companies highlights a marked shift by Trump toward policies of state intervention in the economy that are typically associated with the left.
Perhaps for a different thread - should the Government of India get equity in exchange for PLI? Doesn't sound right to me.
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Ambar wrote: 26 Aug 2025 07:03 As for Israel, i hope they have a plan B because they are within 3-4 yrs of losing US support. The below 40 population in the US is vehemently against Israel and its very existence, it is only a matter of time before US goes Europe's way and starts holding back arms and begins sanctions. Part of the blame is definitely on Bibi, Smotrich, Benny Gantz and other lunatics who have ensured that not only the younger Israelis but jews everywhere will live in fear for many years to come. The current war is meaningless, and with ever incident like the one at Nasser Hospital today, Israel will lose more and more support in the west.
You give way too much credit to the under 40 pop in west. they'll believe what the likes of BBC/Guardian/Reuters want them to believe. We already see this with the 'India funds Russia through oil" stories. Just like Ukrainians with their Nazi 'problem' was a big focus in western media but it all went away very conveniently once the "SMO" started.

If Israelis lose support in the west, it won't be because they bombed a hospital or 100. People forget what west did in Iraq etc, west is completely fine with killing journalists or kids or whoever. if things get really bad, maybe the 'west' will say sorry after 50 years and make Oct 7 a "truth and reconciliation" holiday :mrgreen:
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