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Praveen Swami summarising the IM story till now:
http://www.hindu.com/2009/01/17/stories ... 310800.htm
The Lashkar-e-Taiba’s army in India

Praveen Swami

Our most pressing threat comes from Lashkar operatives who will not have to cross the oceans or scale the mountains across the Line of Control to attack India.

Last month, the Jamaat-ud-Dawa’s weekly newspaper Ghazwa hailed the Mumbai massacre as “an historic victory for the Muslim warriors, who have avenged the atrocities committed by India against its Muslim minority.”

For weeks now, the world has been seeking to compel Pakistan to dismantle the terror factories which produced those ‘warriors.’ So far, these efforts have had little success: only a few of the camps run by the Jamaat-ud-Dawa’s armed wing, the Lashkar-e-Taiba, have been dismantled; few of its leaders have been arrested.

But the most pressing threat to India comes from Lashkar operatives who will not have to cross the oceans or scale the mountains across the Line of Control. Key leaders of Indian Mujahideen — the terrorist network responsible for a string of urban bombings since 2005 — escaped a nationwide police hunt which led to the arrest of over 80 of its operatives in six states.

If the Indian Mujahideen is indeed planning further strikes, two men are most likely central to its plans: Riyaz Bhatkal, who organised the quasi-industrial production of the ready-to-assemble ammonium nitrate-based ‘u’-shaped bombs used in its bombing campaign, and the man tasked by the Lashkar’s central commanders to link these units together, Mumbai-based SIMI operative Abdul Subhan Usman Qureshi.

Bhatkal—the son of the owner of a leather-tanning factory in Mumbai’s Kurla area — was part of the circle of student Islamists who joined the Students Islamic Movement of India around 1998. Like others in SIMI, Bhatkal believed that the problems confronting India’s Muslims were the consequence of secular modernity — and that the answer lay in fighting to create an Islamic state. Along with his elder brother Iqbal Bhatkal, a qualified cleric who also practised Unani medicine, Bhatkal became a key figure at SIMI’s Mumbai office.

SIMI old-timers recall that Bhatkal brothers attended SIMI’s last public gathering — a 2001 rally held at the Bandra Reclamation ground. Its zeitgeist was incendiary. Osama bin-Laden was described as a “true mujahid [Islamic warrior].” Indian Muslims were exhorted to “trample the infidels.”

Soon after, SIMI was proscribed—and the Mumbai Police began knocking on the Bhatkal family’s door. Tiring of confrontation with the law, the Bhatkal brothers left for Mangalore.

Incensed by the 2003 pogrom in Gujarat, though, Riyaz Bhatkal travelled to Pakistan to train with the Lashkar. Pakistan-based mafioso Amir Raza Khan, who began financing jihadist groups after his brother was killed by the Gujarat Police in 2001, is believed to have paid for the journey, and arranged for the fake travel documents that allowed Bhatkal to transit through Dubai.

Back in Mangalore, Bhatkal began to recruit the men who would later form the bomb-manufacture cell of the Indian Mujahideen — mostly small businessmen like arrested suspects Ahmad Baba Abu Bakr, Ali Mohammad Ahmad, Javed Mohammad Ali and Syed Mohammad Naushad.

Iqbal Bhatkal drew other circles of recruits, operating through clerical networks. Mansoor Asghar Peerbhoy, the software engineer who helped design, produce and e-mail several Indian Mujahideen manifestos — and is now expected to testify against his one-time associates—was among them.

Kerala’s Abdul Sattar, a Kannur resident also known by the alias Sainuddhin, and his long-standing associate Tadiyantavide Nasir, also formed a key part of the circle of south Indian jihadists recruited by the Bhatkal brothers.

Both men had cut their political teeth in street battles between followers of the Kerala politician Abdul Nasser Madani — who was recently acquitted of charges of having financed the 1998 serial bombings in Coimbatore by the Islamist terror group al-Umma—and Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh activists. Sattar, for example, is alleged to have fabricated the pipe-bombs used in a series of 1993 attacks. Later, the men were alleged to have participated in a plot to assassinate former Kerala chief minister EK Nayanar.

Sattar and Nasir, the police claim, supplied much of the ammonium nitrate used in the bombs built by Bhatkal in Gujarat. Evidence also exists that the Kerala jihad leaders had sent upwards of 40 men for military training at Lashkar camps in Pakistan. In October, four Kerala men training with the Lashkar in the mountains above the north Kashmir town of Kupwara were shot dead by the Jammu and Kashmir Police. One of the four, Abdul Raheem, was Sattar’s son-in-law. He had earlier been charged with participating in the 2005 torching of a bus to protest Tamil Nadu’s decision to oppose Madani’s efforts to secure bail.

In the north, similar jihadist modules were forming. In late 2001, Azamgarh resident Mohammad Sadiq Sheikh left for Pakistan. Sheikh, an ideological Islamist linked to SIMI in Uttar Pradesh, had succeeded in making contact with the Lashkar through his brother-in-law, Mujahid Salim — the son of Hyderabad-based Islamist cleric Maulana Abdul Aleem Islahi, who founded the Jamiat-ul-Sheikh Maududi, named for the founder of the Jamaaat-e-Islami. Like Bhatkal, Sheikh’s travel to Pakistan was arranged through Khan’s criminal network.

Sheikh, after his return, recruited several figures alleged to have played a key role in the Indian Mujahideen bombings. Indian Mujahideen commander Atif Amin, who was killed in a September shootout with the Delhi Police in Jamia Nagar, is thought to have trained in Pakistan, as did Mumbai-based Arif Badr Sheikh. So, too, did Shahnawaz Khan, a Lucknow-based Unani doctor whose brother, Mohammad Saif, was arrested during the Jamia Nagar raid.

Mumbai’s Qureshi, investigators believe, had the critical task of helping these complex, local cells of jihadists knit together into a single unity. His task was complex: in the Ahmedabad attacks, for example, Qureshi mated Bhatkal’s bomb-making assets with a group of SIMI operatives raised by computer graphics designer Qayamuddin Kapadia, who in turn provided safe houses and logistical support for Atif Amin’s assault team.

Like Bhatkal, Qureshi was the son of working class parents who had migrated to Mumbai—in this case from Uttar Pradesh. Like, Bhatkal, too, he received a technical educaiton. He obtained a diploma in industrial electronics in 1995, and went on to work at several private information technology firms in Mumbai. It is unclear just when Qureshi encountered SIMI, but he was present at the organisation’s 1999 convention—a time when he was working on setting up Wipro project to set up an intranet at Bharat Petrochemicals. His links with SIMI deepened over coming years. In March, 2001, Qureshi quit his job at the computer firm Datamatics, recording in a letter of resgination that he had “decided to devote one complete year to pursue religious and spiritual matters.”

Later, Qureshi — first profiled in this newspaper hours before September’s serial bombings in New Delhi, which he helped orchestrate — is thought to have trained in Pakistan. Like Bhatkal, he travelled with assistance from Khan’s mafia network.

From 2005, the Indian jihadists who had trained with the Lashkar initiated a new phase in the Pakistan-based terror group’s long-running war against India. Asad Yazdani, a resident of Hyderabad’s Toli Chowki area who was among Maulana Nasir’s first recruits, carried out a series of strikes starting with the assassination of Gujarat Home Minister Haren Pandya More often than not, these early operations, like the June, 2005 bombing of the Shramjeevi Express and the March, 2006, attack on the Sankat Mochan temple in Varanasi, relied on cross-border logistical assistance from the Lashkar or Harkat ul-Jihad-e-Islami.

In time, their operations became increasingly independent — and lethal. Some Mumbai police investigators believe that unidentified Pakistanis who helped execute the July 2006 attacks on the city’s suburban train system were not Pakistani at all — but, rather, Amin and other members of the Azamgarh cell. It is certainly possible. Rahil Ahmad Sheikh, a top Indian jihadist who played a key role in sending several men linked with the train bombings to camps in Pakistan — and was sighted at the Lashkar’s headquarters in Lahore last year — knew both Bhatkal and Qureshi from their days in SIMI’s Mumbai office.

In the wake of the Mumbai bombings, the Lashkar came under intense pressure from Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf’s regime to scale back offensive operations against India. Lakhvi and other Lashkar commanders prodded Qureshi, Bhatkal and Sheikh to set up a self-sustaining network in India. On the eve of attacking three court complex buildings in Uttar Pradesh in November, 2007, the three men finally gave their network a name.

“Remember my friends,” Jamaat-ud-Dawa chief Hafiz Mohammad Saeed had said in a February 5, 2007 speech, delivered not long after the discussions that led to the formation of the Indian Mujahideen“that the jihad has been ordained by Allah”. “It is not an order of a general,” he continued, “that can be started one day and stopped the other day. Our jihad in Kashmir will end when all the Hindus will be destroyed in India.”

Saeed’s threats may be psychotic, but he has demonstrated they are made in earnest, and delivered on: reason enough for India to pay close attention to last month’s article in Ghazwa.
So much for the Gujarat caused all this..most of the dates mentioned are from 99 onwards.

Scary thing is most of the listed guys are still at large. Surely, all thses guys are not nder ISI protection in Pak and if there is enough political will( and resources on the ground), few can be bumped off inside Pak to serve as a warning to the rest.
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Delhi gunfight foils robbers in Honda
Good job there!
They need to get a helicopter to track the cars from above. That way they could have tracked the second car as well.
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PC's anti-terror steps irk UPA partners
PC's anti-terror steps irk UPA partners
DH News Service, New Delhi:
The tough stand adopted by Union Home Minister P Chidambaram on Bangladeshi immigrants and his plain speaking against Pakistan have unsettled part of the ruling UPA dispensation.


In the run up to the general election, the constituents of the UPA government are wary of the strident stand against Bangladeshi immigrants, and sought that the government should rather “nuance” its anti-terror line, according to reliable sources.

After taking over as Union Home Minister, Chidambaram has done some plain speaking with all the key security and intelligence agencies under him and attempted to put “on fast track” a slew of anti-terror measures. Taking a break from “the neutral approach” of his predecessor Shivraj Patil, he has stressed the need to be “pro-active” against terror modules in the country. He even backed further changes in the anti-terror laws, if so desired by the states.

The creation of the National Investigating Agency (NIA), speedy appointment of R V Raju as NIA’s first director general, sending letters to state CMs on making necessary changes in anti-terror laws, providing legal backing to the Multi-Agency Centre for sharing intelligence agency and daily monitoring of security with top ministry and intelligence officials are part of the new initiatives taken by the minister who has barely three-months at hand to show results.

Sources told Deccan Herald that Chidambaram’s public stand has ruffled a few feathers in the ruling party and its allies who are wary of minister making “bold statements” on “sensitive issues” when the general election is barely three months away.

Chidambaram had said Bangladeshi immigrants had “no business” in India. Subsequent to that the SC also asked the Centre to issue “identity cards” to all Indians to curb illegal immigration.


This apart, the minister attempted to plough an aggressive and independent furrow by saying that if Pakistan continued its flip-flop and did not cooperate in the Mumbai terror attacks investigations, India might break business, transport and tourist links with it.

“There are many, many links between India and Pakistan, and if Pakistan does not cooperate and does not help to bring the perpetrators to heel, those ties will become weaker and weaker and one day snap.”

He then went on to say: “Why would we entertain Pakistani business people? Why would we entertain tourists in India? Why would we send tourists there?” The minister was seen to be jumping the gun and not being in sync with the foreign ministry’s sound bites against Islamabad.

In the recently held CMs conference Chidambaram’s disapproval of engaging civilian tribal population to fight left extremism under Salwa Judum in Chhattisgarh did not go well even with the Congress which sought to continue the policy.
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http://www.boloji.com/analysis2/0376.htm

Islamic Vs Hindu fundamentalists
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25. Accused in Varanasi blasts gets 10 years

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Aug ... 786838.asp Waliullah, an Imam of a rural mosque in Phoolpur town of Allahabad district, confessed to being the mastermind behind the blasts. In April 2006, Waliullah was arrested from Gosainganj locality in Lucknow with an AK-47 rifle and half kg of RDX, an explosive. http://www.ibnlive.com/news/varanasi-bl ... 209-3.html The blast occurred in the temple March 7, 2006. At least 10 people died and over 40 were injured in the blast at the temple on a Tuesday, considered a special day for Hindu god Hanuman. Another blast took place at the railway station and at least 20 people died in the Varanasi serial blasts.
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The IB, the leader informs the cadres, does not walk up to a person and start questioning him. Rather, they depend upon informers from within the group. For example, the voice on tape continues, they would have contacts with one of the people sitting here (in the meeting). He (the informer) would provide information because of his personal links with the IB officer. The informer does this because he thinks that this man is good to me and often helps me, and moreover I tell him so little. The IB officer would then be able to make inferences from the little information that the informer would provide.
Isn't this what precisely happened if a video of the meeting is floating around?
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Some good news reg the investigations into the blasts in bengaluru.
Zainuddin, member of SIMI/IM was arrested by AP police. He is suspected to be involved in the recent bengaluru blasts. Native of malappuram in kerala. By profession he is a radio mechanic. An important bomb maker has now been neutarlised. Was living in hyderabad and frequently changing places.
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Avinash R wrote:Native of malappuram in kerala. By profession he is a radio mechanic. An important bomb maker has now been neutarlised. Was living in hyderabad and frequently changing places.
Deepika (local daily) report
This chap was also known as "Satthar Bhai" among his fellow terrorist buddies. The name had caused confusion as there was another "Sathar" who was also believed to be a terrorist. The 56 year old chap is considered to be a master mind behind various bomb blasts, and was also wanted by the Intel agencies and police forces of six states.

Hope this fellow is now singing like a Mukesh/Mohd.Rafi/Canary in the lockup :evil: .
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How many of you think politicians like Raj and Bal Thackeray are equally dangerous to the internal security :evil: just now saw on news shiv sena doing tod fod in intercontinental hotel.
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^These people can be easy dealt with if they are "tadipaar" ed from their respective states. The congress-ncp puppet raj thackeray, got all the media attention last time with all that vandalism. How can shiv sena, the baap of mns, tolerate their base being reduced by a newcomer? Today's vandlasim at the hotel is their way of garnering media attention. They are not concerned whether the dismissed marathis workers at the hotel get their job back or not? Just plain turf protection exercise and the dumb cnn-ibn has started airing that tod pod and have helped shiv sena succeed in their goal If the people at cnn-ibn had any intelligence they would just reported the news and not telecasted the video with a message, "Telecasting this video will only help vandals and keeping in mind our social responsibility we are not going to let that happen". Wonder when these news channels will understand their social responsiblity.
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Sachin wrote: Deepika (local daily) report
This chap was also known as "Satthar Bhai" among his fellow terrorist buddies. The name had caused confusion as there was another "Sathar" who was also believed to be a terrorist. The 56 year old chap is considered to be a master mind behind various bomb blasts, and was also wanted by the Intel agencies and police forces of six states.

Hope this fellow is now singing like a Mukesh/Mohd.Rafi/Canary in the lockup :evil: .
I only hope that we "encounter" him once all the juice is spilt. No point keeping such scum alive on our money only to see them back in action in 14 years.
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Germany offers anti-terror cooperation, to train elite force
New Delhi (PTI): Germany on Thursday said it was sharing with India its experience in preventing terror strikes following the Mumbai attacks and also dispatching the chief of its elite commando unit GSG-9 to explore ways to train similar forces here.

Germany's Federal Police chief Joerg Ziercke, who held discussions with top Indian security officials on developing infrastructure to counter terrorism, pointed out that his country had provided vital inputs when India raised the National Security Guards (NSG) about 20 years back. Germany has set up Joint Counter Terrorism Center (JCTC) bringing under one roof its 40 odd security agencies as also a Joint Internet Analysis Centre (JIAC) in its efforts to fight terror.

"Counter-terrorism centre and internet analysis centre were the focal points that we discussed," Ziercke told reporters here on the discussions he had with NSA M K Narayanan, Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta, CBI Director Ashwini Kumar and IB Director Rajiv Mathur.

"We finally came to the conclusion that the basic principle or premise you must operate on is to have a unified exchange of information, strategies and planning," he said. Ziercke will be meeting senior Maharashtra government and police officials in Mumbai and also visit the site of the November 26 terror attacks.

He said the chief of Germany's elite commando force GSG-9 Olaf Linder is expected to visit India late next month to discuss ways and means train commando units here.
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translation: the west is shit scared of a mumbai happening in their capital cities given the number of pak-e-trained lashkars roaming around in there, and they want all data and site surveys to prepare their training modules.

they wont be training us, more like surveying the sites and learning from NSG debriefs how to tackle the s***

NYPD SWAT has already sent a team and done some simulated response training
in NYC. the british have sent multiple MI/scotland yard teams and no doubt
a unit of SAS has now been kept in high readiness in london.
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That means the Germans are worried about the new terrorists breeding in India and wants local foothold. How many IM/TSP?BD immigrants does Germany have?
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Focus on terror, Chidambaram rejigs Home
Focus on terror, Chidambaram rejigs Home
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New Delhi: Keeping fight against terrorism as his focal point, P Chidambaram on Thursday re-jigged his Home Ministry, bifurcating the vital Internal Security and Police divisions so that the anti-terrorist component in each is handled by a nodal officer expert at the subject for faster response.

“So far Internal Security was handled by one Joint Secretary who was overburdened with legal and operational matters, commissions of inquiry, narcotics, etc which were taking his gaze away from the key scourge: terrorism,” said a senior ministry official.

“The objective of the restructuring is quick reaction to proposals, especially in Internal Security, Central Para Military Forces (CPMFs) and Police Modernisation. This, in turn, would also fix accountability,” he said.

In a nutshell, the Home Minister has rationalised each division with each Joint Secretary’s job focused on key result areas rather than sprawled all over the place as was the case before Chidambaram took over from Shivraj Patil. One significant step in this direction is the clipping of powers of Joint Secretary (Police), who till now was the lord and master of the entire police mechanism.

The police wing has been bifurcated: one to handle the service and welfare issues of IPS officers and the other to take care of personnel and deployment matters of the CPMFs. VIP Security, earlier with Police Modernisation, has been handed to Internal Security-II which would largely deal with non-pressing issues. (See box)

The move, which took the senior officers by surprise, bands together divisions on Naxal Management and Anti-Naxal Operations — which were handled by two Joint Secretaries — into one. Similar is the fate of Disaster Management which was earlier branched with two separate Joint Secretaries.

The Police Mission — announced by the Prime Minister to empower the police — has been taken out of Policy & Planning to be attached with Police Modernisation wing so that policymaker here could dovetail the upgrading of forces with the purchases of arms and equipment he approves under the Central schemes and for border states.

Since states have been complaining of a lack of coordination in tracking inter-state crime and criminals, the work relating to Crime & Criminal Tracking Network System has been taken out of Police Modernisation to the Centre-State Division. Following the re-organisation, Chidamabaram also redeployed eight officers, of which six are Joint Secretaries who are the executive head of each division.
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So he did his own version of DHS on Indian MHA. Where is the graphic?

BTW the best officers who rose to top were the ones who headed the dept of Intl secy when they were Dy Secy.
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Two suspected Pak terrorists shot dead in Noida

NOIDA: Two suspected Pakistani terrorists were killed in an encounter with the UP Anti-Terror Squad in the wee hours of Sunday morning in Noida,
Noida encounter. The car in which terrorists killed in Noida encounter were travelling. (Times Now)

"One of the terrorists, while being taken to hospital identified himself as Farooq, a resident of Okara in Pakistan, and his companion as Abu Ismail from Rawalakot," UP ADG Brij Lal told reporters in a press conference in Lucknow.

“One passport in the name of Ali Ahmad, a resident of Rahimyaarkhan, was recovered from the car,” said the UP ADG.

“Police have found two AK-47s, 4 magazines, 120 bullets, 5 hand grenades, Rs 18,000 cash, detonators, 9 RDX rods and a rucksack from the car,” Brij Lal said.
One ATS constable, Vinod Kumar, was also injured in the encounter. His condition is said to be stable.
According to Navin Arora, the SSP of Noida, ATS was informed of two armed criminals trying to enter Delhi by a car numbered UP14E 9531. As soon as it got the information, the ATS chased them. When the Maruti 800, in which they were travelling, reached near Mahamaya flyover, the UP ATS team stopped them. They tried to run away through the Noida-Delhi expressway towards Sector 97, the SSP further informed.

Arora further informed that the criminals started firing on them once the ATS team closed in on them. In the exchange, the two were injured and later nabbed. Police took them to a nearby hospital where they were declared dead.The SSP also informed that an identity card of one Sameer Chaudhary was also recovered from their car. Police however also says that the identity card may be fake.
The usual race for publicity seems to have started with the UP ADGP declaring that they tracked the pigs all by themselves without help and "sources in MHA" saying that it was a joint IB-UP police op.
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What happens when a country maintains a defensive posture to try and ward off terror attacks instead of going after the scum at their homes. The answer: We bleed money to ensure "adequate security":
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On R-Day high: 35,000 cops, ‘spotters’ from other states on duty
New Delhi: The Delhi Police has put all its 400 Special Cell officers on duty for the Republic Day as intelligence agencies share a rising number of inputs about possible Terror attacks in the run-up to D-day.

While most of these officers would cover the Republic Day parade route from Rajpath to Red Fort, special “interrogation teams” would also be deployed to remove any suspicious-looking person along the route and question them, sources said. The police have also called in “spotters” from militancy and Naxal-affected states such as Jammu and Kashmir, Punjab, Gujarat, Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu.

Culled from police departments of various districts in these states, the “spotters” have already been deputed at various locations to identify suspects.

Among alerts the intelligence agencies have passed on, sources said, are a possible combined terror attack by the Lashkar-e-Toiba and Khalistan Commando Force (KCF) in the Capital on January 26. According to sources, the inputs mentioned that the two militant groups had a meeting recently in Germany, apparently to plan terror strikes.

The Mumbai police, sources said, had intercepted another input eight days ago that the Lashkar would target both Delhi and Gujarat on or around January 26. The agencies have also received an input that eight terrorists of Harkat-ul-Jehadi-Islami (HuJI) have sneaked in from the West Bengal border.

Officials said none of the threats have specific inputs about whereabouts of the militants but heavy force has been deployed. Besides Special Cell and Special Branch officers, officials from the Intelligence Bureau and Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) would be around the parade route and sensitive locations such as the Rashtrapati Bhavan, PMO, North Block, South Block, important hotels where guests are staying, and highrise buildings.

The bandobast:

* 196 companies of Delhi Police and 55 companies of central paramilitary forces, comprising around 35,000 police officials on R-Day duty

* 3 helicopters for aerial surveillance, besides NSG helicopters

* Anti-aircraft guns, anti-hit teams deployed at strategic locations

* Around 800 commandos of NSG, Indo-Tibet Border Police, and Delhi Police deployed on parade route and highrises

* Quick reaction teams (QRTs) and police vans on parade route and important locations

* Door-framed metal detectors (DFMDs) placed at strategic locations; three trained persons at each DFMD
Did NSG get some helicopters or have they been requisitioned for R-day only?
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sum wrote:Link
Two suspected Pak terrorists shot dead in Noida

NOIDA: Two suspected Pakistani terrorists were killed in an encounter with the UP Anti-Terror Squad in the wee hours of Sunday morning in Noida,
Noida encounter. The car in which terrorists killed in Noida encounter were travelling. (Times Now)

"One of the terrorists, while being taken to hospital identified himself as Farooq, a resident of Okara in Pakistan, and his companion as Abu Ismail from Rawalakot," UP ADG Brij Lal told reporters in a press conference in Lucknow.

“One passport in the name of Ali Ahmad, a resident of Rahimyaarkhan, was recovered from the car,” said the UP ADG.

“Police have found two AK-47s, 4 magazines, 120 bullets, 5 hand grenades, Rs 18,000 cash, detonators, 9 RDX rods and a rucksack from the car,” Brij Lal said.
One ATS constable, Vinod Kumar, was also injured in the encounter. His condition is said to be stable.
According to Navin Arora, the SSP of Noida, ATS was informed of two armed criminals trying to enter Delhi by a car numbered UP14E 9531. As soon as it got the information, the ATS chased them. When the Maruti 800, in which they were travelling, reached near Mahamaya flyover, the UP ATS team stopped them. They tried to run away through the Noida-Delhi expressway towards Sector 97, the SSP further informed.

Arora further informed that the criminals started firing on them once the ATS team closed in on them. In the exchange, the two were injured and later nabbed. Police took them to a nearby hospital where they were declared dead.The SSP also informed that an identity card of one Sameer Chaudhary was also recovered from their car. Police however also says that the identity card may be fake.
The usual race for publicity seems to have started with the UP ADGP declaring that they tracked the pigs all by themselves without help and "sources in MHA" saying that it was a joint IB-UP police op.

Sum ji,

This claim shaim is par for the course. :)

But dead pigs is dead pigs :D
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ramana wrote:So he did his own version of DHS on Indian MHA. Where is the graphic?

BTW the best officers who rose to top were the ones who headed the dept of Intl secy when they were Dy Secy.
I think Internal Security, Police etc need a new ministry not 'department'. For example MHA appears to have five departments and 17 divisons.

Mandate and Organizational Structure of Ministry of Home Affairs

Forget a graphic - Advani or Shivraj or PC wouldn't even know what to do with so many things under one ministry. Internal Security, Disaster management, Police reform, J&K, Union Territory, Border Management, Human Rights.....the list goes on! :roll:

Thank heavens ABV & LKA put together a DoNER otherwise we'd have the MHA overseeing 8 Indian states! (6+J&K) plus another dozen divisons!The amount of importance it is given under INC can be judged by looking at who heads this Ministry now - Mani Shanker Aiyer. :rotfl:

Need a new internal security Ministry that will take care of police/police affairs/reform, terrorism and paramilitary forces! :evil:
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The NSA's dirty listening tricks exposed in this superb book.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/books ... key-t.html

The Surveillance-Industrial Complex

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the hindu

Azamgarh youths to protest against Batla incident in Delhi

Azamgarh (PTI): Thousands of Muslim youths on Wednesday set off on a journey to New Delhi to press for a judicial inquiry into the Batla house encounter and arrest of "innocent youths" in terror related cases in the country.

The local youths, travelling on a special "Azamgarh to L-18 Batla house" train booked at a cost of around Rs 13 lakhs by convener of the Ulema Council, Maulana Aamir Rashid Madani, would be joined by others along the route and would reach New Delhi on Thursday morning.

The demonstrators would hold protests at Jantar Mantar in the national capital, demanding a judicial probe into the Batla house encounter and the arrests of "innocent youths", majority of whom belong to Sanjarpur village in Azamgarh, in various terror strikes.

Addressing the youths, Madani alleged that denial of a judicial probe into the Batla house encounter by the union government has raised suspicion and question mark on its functioning.

He also raised objections on awarding Ashok Chakra to late Delhi police inspector Mohan Chandra Sharma, who was killed in the encounter, saying it was wrong to accord him before the completion of the probe.

The council has also decided to field its candidates from Azamgarh and Lalganj Lok Sabha seats in the coming elections.
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^Terrorist supporters have a problem when a terrorist module is broken and terrorists eliminated. They call this fake encounter and describe ak47 weilding terrorists as innocent youths.

They also have a problem when terrorist attacks couldn't be prevented. They call mumbai terror attacks as intelligence failure and a hindu-zionist-cia conspiracy rather than crimes committed by youths belonging to a particular community brainwashed into believing that for murders of women and children they will get jannat.

I cant find a better example to explain taqqiya.
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x-posting.

Get ready to march past the job blues, literally
In an exercise to strengthen the security apparatus post 26/11, the Union home ministry has put the reinforcement in numbers of various Central para-military forces on the fast track. In a recent decision, the ministry sanctioned 29 more battalions for the Border Security Force (BSF), 37 battalions for the Central Industrial Security Force (CISF), 37 for the Sashastra Seema Bal or SSB (which will be raised in two phases starting first with 20 battalions); 10 each for Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) and Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP); and four battalions for the National Security Guard (NSG).

This adds up to a total 127 battalions, which are likely to be raised over the next 2-3 years. With each battalion roughly comprising 1,100 personnel, the total number of security personnel to be inducted into these CPMFs works out to nearly 1.4 lakh. :shock:

While the BSF is looking to utilise the additional battalions to raise its presence on the eastern border with Bangladesh, the CRPF hopes to add on to its specialised anti-Naxal Cobra battalions. The SSB, which is now only 41-battalion strong, is finding it difficult to effectively guard the Indo-Nepal border with the inadequate manpower. The additional 37 battalions will boost its presence on both the Indo-Nepal as well as the Indo-China border in Sikkim.

The CISF, too, is badly in need to augment its manpower in the wake of the additional responsibilities being included in its portfolio, such as guarding private and joint sector installations. The NSG, too, is in the midst of, expanding to regional hubs, starting with the four cities of Mumbai, Hyderabad, Chennai and Kolkata. The new battalions will generate the required manpower needed for these hubs.

At present, the CRPF comprises a total 201 battalions, the BSF 157 battalions, SSB 41 battalions and the ITBP 45 battalions. The additional battalions will take up the strength of the CRPF to 211 battalions, that of the BSF to 186 battalions, that of SSB to 78 battalions and of ITBP to 55 battalions.
SSB manpower is almost getting doubled. Significant increase in manpower!

The 37 new battalions for CISF will be fully absorbed - airports, nuclear reactors, other important potential targets. If you do the calculations this significant increase only meets existing demands!
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Next in line for a massive upgrade has to be coast guard. :evil:
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Azamgarh (PTI): Thousands of Muslim youths on Wednesday set off on a journey to New Delhi to press for a judicial inquiry into the Batla house encounter and arrest of "innocent youths" in terror related cases in the country.

The local youths, travelling on a special "Azamgarh to L-18 Batla house" train booked at a cost of around Rs 13 lakhs by convener of the Ulema Council, Maulana Aamir Rashid Madani, would be joined by others along the route and would reach New Delhi on Thursday morning.
The more i see this rapid march into backwardness of a "community", the more i fear about the future of this country!!! :(
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Temple robbed near Indo-Bangla border
Silchar | Thursday, Jan 29 2009 IST

Burglars broke into the century-old Sri Narasingha Bari Akhara at Tongibari village near the Indo-Bangladesh border in Karimganj district last night and decamped with valuables, including two brass idols.

Police are yet to get a lead into the robbery during which the idols of Lord Krishna and Prahlad besides, money and gold ornaments were stolen.

A team of police, led by Karimganj Additional Superintendent of Police H K Das, rushed to the spot along with a sniffer dog and started manhunt to nab the miscreants.

The value of the stolen items is yet to be ascertained, police said. Last week Settlement Road Kalibari, a renowned temple situated near the Indo-Bangladesh border in this district, was robbed.

The district, which is near the international border, has been witnessing a series of thefts in temples for the past one year. At least seven such temples in the district were robbed over the past one month triggering protest by several Hindu organisations and Sangh Parivar outfits.



So a campaign is going on in West bengal to loot and destroy temples but no mention of it in the supposedly secular media. They have time to talk of mlore incident but wont tell the people about vandalism going on against temples. Hundreds of temples were destroyed in goa and the media kept silent, again the same pattern is being repeated. And will the posters who were anxious to display their moral superiority by trying ridiculing a particular party show the same anger against this campaign to destroy temples or their imprinted macaulyite brain will stop them from doing the right thing.
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LINK

Mutalik guys seems to be connected to Purohit. His goose was cooked and wanted to be a martyr. This is a $hitty game that India is being dragged into.
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Muslims now want to be tried under separate law

Has serious internal security and cohesion implications. Wonder who's funding and backing this campaign?
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Well whether they want it or not, it is aldready, Happening lets not live in denial, in muslim majority villages in UP Bihar and West Bengal Sharia courts are aldready the norm and thier judgements are applicable to Muslim and non muslim alike. Subject deliberately avoided by the Indian media. Like the case of Shailendra Prasad, Rape cases etc.
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Chhattisgarh Maoists propose peace talks with government
Looks like the global economic crises and loss of Ajit Jogi in the Chatissgarh elections has resulted in the funds for Maoists drying up. If the BJP wins the Central GOvt, Maharastra, Orissa, Jharkhand and TDP in AP and if the global recession continues both the overground and underground Maoists in India will vanish.
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AoA,
Raman Singh govt. should now just clean up the remaining maosit scum & send them to houristan/leninstan.
They very fact that they want talks means that the BJP govt. has delivered a significant one up their musharrafs.
Btw, bhat will happen to sekoolaar-socialist-terrorist Binayak Sen, the EJs & the traitors in the civil liberty orgs?
When does the :(( :(( begin?
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vsudhir wrote:x-post

Muslims now want to be tried under separate law

Has serious internal security and cohesion implications. Wonder who's funding and backing this campaign?
:mrgreen: Kasab should be tried under Sharia Law.Ambushed with Ak47s ...or stuff his musharraf with a grenade or give him the same torture as the people in Jewish Centre...
I agree that muslims should be tried under Sharia laws for the crimes they commit....when they can have four goats as per sharia , why not chop their hands for stealing , or a bullet for a bullet...
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derkonig wrote:AoA,
Raman Singh govt. should now just clean up the remaining maosit scum & send them to houristan/leninstan.
They very fact that they want talks means that the BJP govt. has delivered a significant one up their musharrafs.
I concur. And quietly does it. No media coverage, no hyperventilating HR types weeping blood....aaah. Salwa Judum paying off or what? Give mixed signals on talks and create divisions amongst the ones who wanna surrender and those who wanna continue the revolution. In any case, under no circumstance should one agree to ceasefire! The only peace the maoist leadership can know is that of the grave, their own grave that is.
Btw, bhat will happen to sekoolaar-socialist-terrorist Binayak Sen, the EJs & the traitors in the civil liberty orgs?
When does the :(( :(( begin?
Oh, mighty soon, I wager.

1-2 yrs ago, I read an article on salwa judum where one journo type bemoaned that the govt doesn't guarantee the security of any journo entering the hot zone and blames any attacks on journalists on the maoists. For once, I'm happy to have the media stay away from the war zone. Of course, have oversight but let it be from an unrelated govt agency rather than the foreign-paid pro-maoist angrezi media. Can't imagine KPS Gill retaking Punjab with the HR-dhimmedia types looking over his shoulder....
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Please reserve words like musharraf for Pakis.

One can convey the same message about HR issues while combating an insurgency without resort to impolite language.

Thanks.
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Naxals gun down 15 cops
NAGPUR: Fifteen policemen including a young police sub-inspector were killed by Naxals in firing in Gadchiroli district on Sunday, police said.
A police patrol party was attacked at Markegaon under Kurkheda area by a group of Naxalites who were waiting for the cops to appear on the scene.
The naxals opened indiscriminate firing that killed all the 15 policemen on the spot. Meanwhile, all the bodies have been recovered, police said.
15 cops gunned down in Maha?? :(
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