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You missed the best part. Pious = Pure = Innocent. Bring on the Sharia'h law.Prem wrote:bdur Rouf Tarafdar was one of more than a dozen people who vouched for Masroor’s pious character
The spiral of violence in Karachi shows no sign of easing, with over 250 people killed in the first three weeks of August in Pakistan's key port and commercial center. Urdu-based political parties and their Pashtun-dominated counterparts blame one another, while land-grabbers and criminals exploit the breakdown in law and order. The government is more interested in extracting political mileage than in restoring order.
.[/quote]shiv wrote:="JE Menon"]Are all these Pak mards trained in throat slitting from a young age or what? Half these murders involved slitting of throats]The islamic slaughterer holds the hair with his left hand and uses a knife to go slice slice slice across the front of the neck - soon severing the main blood vessels causing death by blood loss and lack of blood to the brain. The victim clearly feels the initial slicing and may occasionally be heard crying out and the method is a slow one that eventually gets to the gristle and sinews that hold the neck bones together which the pious Muslim Pakistani continues to slice till the head is severed and can be held up for display by the hair. Charming brothers we have spawned. [/size]
The islamic definition on Radical neck dissection.
One man steadies the body while another holds the head so it cannot be turned or flexed so that the neck is kept exposed and open. The islamic slaughterer holds the hair with his left hand and uses a knife to go slice slice slice across the front of the neck - soon severing the main blood vessels causing death by blood loss and lack of blood to the brain. The victim clearly feels the initial slicing and may occasionally be heard crying out and the method is a slow one that eventually gets to the gristle and sinews that hold the neck bones together which the pious Muslim Pakistani continues to slice till the head is severed and can be held up for display by the hair. Charming brothers we have spawned.
Prem wrote:All i can say, its worth the time.A_Gupta wrote:Purports to be a conversation between a Pakistani army person and a Taliban (Don't be misled by the "Iraq Mideast collection")
http://www.archive.org/details/Mufti_733
You have to admire the clarity of thought displayed by Talib. He calls Qayde Aazam as "Kadoo e Aazam". Wo Kafir tha, wo Ismali Shia tha.A_Gupta wrote:
Purports to be a conversation between a Pakistani army person and a Taliban (Don't be misled by the "Iraq Mideast collection")
http://www.archive.org/details/Mufti_733
All i can say, its worth the time.
THE POLITICAL CONTEXT WAS WHAT SHE SAW AS A FAIRLY ELABORATE AND WELL ARTICULATED PLOT TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT. THIS PLOT INVOLVES QASI HUSSEIN AHMED, AMIR OF THE JAMIAT-I-ISLAMI, BUT ONE OF THE GUIDING FORCES WAS FORMER ISI DIRECTOR HAMID GUL. THE MECHANISM ENVISAGED WAS TO BEGIN WITH OPPOSITION TO THE BUDGET AND CONSTRUCT AN EVER-BROADENING POLITICAL MOVEMENT WITH DEMANDS FOR A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT WITHIN THE CONSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK. ELEMENTS WOULD BE THE DEMAND FOR A NEW CENSUS, DEMAND FOR A NATIONAL IDENTITY CARD, AND INVOCATION OF ARTICLE 62 OF THE CONSTITUTION WHICH LIMITS CANDIDATES FOR OFFICE TO THOSE DEFINED AS GOOD MUSLIMS. THE INTENTION WOULD BE TO LIMIT THE DEFINITION OF A GOOD MUSLIM ONLY TO GRADUATES OF MADRASSAS OR ISLAMIC UNIVERSITIES. THE PRIME MINISTER DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CAMPAIGN WAS CATCHING ON. AS SHE HAD EXPLAINED TO THE CABINET MEETING ON LAW AND ORDER, HOWEVER, THE GOVERNMENT COULD NOT BE SIMPLY THE PASSIVE OBJECT OF SUCH A CAMPAIGN BUT WAS OBLIGED TO REACT AND BE ACTIVE IN ITS OWN DEFENSE AND IN DEFENSE OF DEMOCRACY.
¶5. (S) THE PRIME MINISTER'S STATEMENT GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN TO THE VEXING ISSUE OF THE HUA. I BEGAN BY THANKING HER FOR HER VERY FIRM COMMENTS IN HER MEETING WITH THE SPOUSES OF THE KASHMIR HOSTAGES. I RECALLED IN PARTICULAR HER REQUEST THAT WE BRING TO HER ATTENTION ANY SOLID INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE SO THAT SHE CAN HAVE THE SUSPECTS BROUGHT IN AND STRONGLY INTERROGATED. IN FACT, SHE INTERJECTED, SHE HAD ASKED MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR NASEERULLAH KHAN BABAR TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE FBI ON THE EVIDENCE CONCERNING THE KASHMIR HOSTAGES. PAKISTAN ITSELF, AFTER THE MOST THOROUGH REVIEW BY ALL AGENCIES OF THE GOVERNMENT -- INTELLIGENCE, ARMY AND CIVILIAN AGENCIES -- HAD BEEN UNABLE TO DISCOVER CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE HARAKAT UL ANSAR PEOPLE THAT THEY KNEW AND THE HOSTAGE TAKERS. AT THE SAME TIME SHE RECOGNIZED THAT ALL OUTSIDE INTERLOCUTORS WERE CONVINCED THAT THERE IS SUCH A CONNECTION. THE BRITISH HAD MADE THIS CLEAR TO THEM AND SHE ASSUMED THAT THE AMERICANS HAD THE SAME VIEW.
¶6. (S) FRANK WISNER ASSURED HER THAT THAT IS THE CASE, OUTLINING BRIEFLY THE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE IN HAND ABOUT HUA COMPLICITY IN SEVERAL KIDNAPPING EVENTS IN INDIA, INCLUDING THE KASHMIR HOSTAGE INCIDENT. THE PRIME MINISTER SAID SHE COULD NOT RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT A BREAKAWAY ELEMENT OF HUA MIGHT BE INVOLVED, RECALLING THAT A BREAKAWAY ELEMENT HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN THE ARMY PLOT OF SEPTEMBER 1995. SHE ASKED THE FOREIGN SECRETARY TO CONTACT THE MILITARY AND ASK IF ANY OF THE HUA PLOTTERS IN THE ARMY COUP WERE AWARE OF PLANS TO TAKE HOSTAGES IN KASHMIR.
Dr A Q Khan
Monday, August 22, 2011
We should remember that independence is not earned without great sacrifice. It is always extremely difficult to get rid of usurpers and dictators. Sacrifice must be sincere and should have a definite objective. Without sincerity, even prayers are not answered. There is a Divine edict that states: “By no means shall you attain righteousness unless you give freely of that which you love and whatever you give of a truth, Allah knows it well.” (3:92.)
A very visible demonstration of this was given by the Indian Muslims, who sacrificed almost everything for the creation of Pakistan. They left their dear ones and their belongings – properties, lands and wealth. When they reached their new homeland, there was no paper, pens, pencils or pins in government offices. People brought their own stationery and used Acacia thorns as pins. The well-to-do gave their money to pay the salaries of government servants. Ladies donated their jewellery.
Similar passion was demonstrated by the public during the war of 1965, stupidly started by Pakistan. People blamed Bhutto, but if Ayub Khan, as military dictator, was such a lame-duck ruler, then he should have rather become an imam. People raced to the front with food, water and medicines and took care of the troops.
After the ignominious defeat and surrender by our armed forces at Dacca on Dec 16, 1971, Mr Bhutto put the scattered pieces of a demoralised nation together, managed to have 92,000 prisoners of war released and was later hanged by the same ungrateful people. He also started the nuclear programme for our future safety and for the permanent safeguard of Pakistan’s sovereignty. At Mr Bhutto’s request, I gave up a lucrative and promising career abroad and returned to Pakistan (and got my first salary of Rs3,000 after six months) and was given the heavy responsibility of turning this backward, poor country into a nuclear power. I gathered together a team of highly dedicated, motivated colleagues and we never looked back. By the middle of 1984 we were, for all practical purposes, a nuclear power. Within a few years we also produced long-range ballistic missiles which enabled the country to deliver weapons well into enemy territory. My colleagues and I paid a heavy price for our work in terms of our family life. We were hardly ever at home to take care of our near and dear ones and see our children growing up.
It was Allah’s blessing, the nation’s best wishes and our own hard and dedicated work that enabled us to achieve what seemed an impossible objective. However, it hurts to see just how ungrateful some of our own people are at the behest of foreign agents. They hanged their benefactor, Mr Bhutto, by implicating him in a false case and they made me a scapegoat for the selfish purpose of prolonging a usurper’s rule.
His blinkered vision could not comprehend that by making me a scapegoat he was helping the Western world brand Pakistan as “criminal” for ever. I, as an individual, am of no long-term consequence as sooner or later I won’t be there any longer to target, but Pakistan will, Inshallah, always be there. By refuting allegations of wrongdoing we could have come clean, it would have been a game of blame and rebuttal, as had been the case over the previous 25 years. After all, Pakistan had not broken any international laws or treaties. The matter would have died down with time.
What it comes down to is that, on the one hand we have a patriotic, devoted people working for Pakistan, on the other hand we have parasites who are looting this hard-won homeland. We totally forgot the sacrifices of Raja Sahab Mahmoodabad, Nawab Ismail Khan and others like them. Both military dictators and so-called democratically elected rulers destroyed this poor country and have turned its masses into starving beggars. Nothing is left of our self-esteem or “ghairat.” The rich have become richer – by any and all means possible – while the poor got poorer and starved.
We must all realise that there is no time left. We all have to work hard and strive to get back on the right path of development and self-sufficiency. The whole country is in a mess at present. All institutions have been destroyed and corruption and nepotism are rampant. The present government has totally failed to correct any of the problems created by the previous ones and to alleviate the problems faced by the masses.
Together, the previous dictator and the present rulers have destroyed the very fabric of the country. We are now no more than beggars, and we have no sovereignty. We can no longer call our country our own. Fresh elections won’t make much difference. The same old rotten system will prevail and the same people (read: families) will be running the country. There is no time or possibility for positive change under the present system.
It has become our sacred duty to join hands, put our differences aside and bring about a Peaceful Awami Inqilab (peaceful people’s revolution). We have to discard old, failed leaders who are desperately clinging to power. No more time for sit-ins. We need to concentrate solely on one objective – a peaceful public revolution to throw down the yoke of slavery and exploitation. Thousands of kind-hearted philanthropists are doling out millions of rupees to the poor, but there is no change in the level of poverty in the country. The only way forward is to wage a jihad to bring about a peaceful change. Under sincere and honest rulers there would be a change for the better. We don’t need any foreign alms or suspicious foreign NGOs snooping around the country. Fight for your rights – take them by force if needs be.
Allah has blessed this country with natural resources and human talent. Our young generation is hardworking, innovative and talented. We should use this latent talent to solve our problems and put the country back onto the road of development. Together we can turn it into an Islamic Welfare State. Naturally we would pass through a difficult transitional period which we would have to face together with honesty and sincerity. China, Japan, Germany, etc., made such transitions before our very eyes. Our elders did it before us. If we don’t do something now, our future generations will never forgive us and will curse us for not doing our duty.
I strongly appeal for a start of this campaign. The first and foremost duty rests on the lawyers. Please do stand up, protect the sanctity of Supreme Court decisions and demolish the current rotten, corrupt system. Together we can rebuild Quaid-e-Azam’s and Allama Iqbal’s Pakistan into a peaceful, strong, neutral, sovereign state. Come forward, one and all!
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Look at that face and the pointy ears, it's like the face of a cloven hoof creature mentioned in European folk legends. A truly sinister face.Prem posted this
Toronto religious leader charged in sex assaults
http://www.thestar.com/printarticle/1040602
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Look at that face and the pointy ears, it's like the face of a cloven hoof creature mentioned in European folk legends. A truly sinister face.
BijuShet wrote: I, as an individual, am of no long-term consequence as sooner or later I won’t be there any longer to target, but Pakistan will, Inshallah, always be there. By refuting allegations of wrongdoing we could have come clean, it would have been a game of blame and rebuttal, as had been the case over the previous 25 years. After all, Pakistan had not broken any international laws or treaties. The matter would have died down with time.
).big wave of flood waters has been passing through Guddu barrage in the upper parts of Sindh and is heading down to Sukkur barrage, the BBC's M Ilyas Khan in Islamabad says. Officials say they are trying to move about one million people from the riverine region of Sindh.
So far, 263,000 houses have been fully or partially damaged in the two worst affected provinces of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Punjab. According to the Federal Flood Commission, 1.4m acres (557,000 hectares) of crop land has been flooded across the country and more than 10,000 cows have perished. Waters in the Punjab region are now receding but several new villages in the Jaffarabad area have been deluged since Thursday evening.
There have been fresh downpours in the north-west, adding to the misery of over two million people left homeless there by the floods.About 1.4 million people have been displaced in Punjab, according to a UN spokesman.'Unprecedented'
The situation is likely to worsen as the meteorological department has predicted heavy rains in areas already hit by the floods."We're forecasting widespread rains in the country, specially in flood-affected areas," Reuters quoted Qamar-uz-Zaman Chaudhry, director general of the department, as saying.Authorities in Sindh have warned of major floods in the next 48 hours along the swollen Indus river."It is unprecedented floods in our history," news agency AFP quoted military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas as saying. "We do not have the kind of resources to cope with a situation like this."Army helicopters have evacuated about 3,000 tourists stranded in the Kalam region of Swat district, which has been cut off after many bridges were washed away by flood waters.
Sixty boats have been sent from Lahore to Multan, in Punjab province, and Sukkur in Sindh province, for evacuation purposes, an army press release said.Officials say the most immediate needs of the displaced are tents, plastic sheets, food and medicines.
The World Bank said it had set up an aid fund at Pakistan's request with initial pledges of $80m (£50m
Chandragupta wrote:Searched for 'eid qurbani' on youtube. Absolutely appalling stuff. Would not suggest to do the same if they can't stand bloodshed & brutality. This is nothing more than a tribal ritual which has no place in modern society.
True. And it was no accident things turned out this way.subodh wrote:This has become an alien society, dehumanised to an extent where its really hard to understand them along metrics most indians would apply to a new race, they meet for the first time.
Waah maza aa gaya... listened both files in full while enjoying some kaju & daru...A_Gupta wrote:Purports to be a conversation between a Pakistani army person and a Taliban (Don't be misled by the "Iraq Mideast collection")
http://www.archive.org/details/Mufti_733
More islam, and the purer the better. That is the only solution. The bunny vs fauji conversation is good indicator of what the fauji secular gazhis face.Hari Seldon wrote:
I for one wish all packees a speedy journey.
subodh wrote:what pakistan really needs is more Islam, and the purer the better.
We know perfection can never be acheieved, but we can always strive for it.
The army, in its single minded hatred for india and the hindoo, harnessed allah for its aims, now the tables are turning, and the only way to stay ahead is to be purer than the tools of the trade they were using so far.
The problem is - this is an endless game, and the fauji is always playing defense - given he wears the uniform, swills whiskey and svcks Khan's @ss. The talib has no such problems, and can always play offense.
The Taliban is TTP. The conversation is very much trading of accusations and justifications by quoting scriptures and hadith.Purports to be a conversation between a Pakistani army person and a Taliban (Don't be misled by the "Iraq Mideast collection")
http://www.archive.org/details/Mufti_733
Guys. This is serious stuff. Balochistan and the Bugti scion getting featured on NYT front page is serious stuff. It was "unknow" eh, to whom ? The average Joe maybe , but not to anyone who knows anything about this part of the world!abhishek_sharma wrote:Pakistan’s Bitter, Little-Known Ethnic Rebellion (NYT on Baluchistan.)
Question is what is the guy doing walking around with Rs. 100,000 in his wallet. That's a heck of a lot of money to be carrying around.BijuShet wrote:From The News (posting in full). Comic relief from tsp DDM.
Citizen deprived of cash, cell phoneUpdated 3 hours ago
MULTAN: A citizen was deprived of cash and cell phone in Alpa police station area on Monday.
According to police, Zaffar Iqbal resident of Alpa was going to his home when two dacoits intercepted him and deprived him of Rs 100,000 and cell phone at gun point.
Investigation is under way.
This takes the cake!A_Gupta wrote:25. Army man says you said you'd liberate Kashmir, rid Afghanistan of Americans, etc., you have had no success (implying Allah does not favor you). TTP says we measure success by bringing about Sharia or martyrdom. TTP reminds army man that at the time when Prophet predicted Ghazawa-e-Hind, Pakistan was part of Hindustan (i.e., TTP is fulfilling prophecy by jihad in Pakistan).Purports to be a conversation between a Pakistani army person and a Taliban (Don't be misled by the "Iraq Mideast collection")
http://www.archive.org/details/Mufti_733
Does this Ansar Bunny chap means corruption is okay till IED?
ditto from mepgbhat wrote:A_Gupta, Thank You.
Great job Sire.Philip wrote:An acquaintance of mine in Colombo,devout Buddhist family, once rented out their grand family house near the PM's office to the Pakis for their embassy.When they got it back years later,he proudly took me to the house to show me its grandeur.We were aghast and horrified to find that the Pakis had been slaughtering animals inside the compound illegally and had even constructed a furnace to burn their confidential documents,which had also been used to burn the animals "leftovers" and the evidence in the form of animal fragments still remained!
The Pakis were then looking for a replacement,another new grand address for their embassy and had zeroed in on an even greater fine ancient residence belonging to a very old and distinguished Colombo family,also devout Buddhists, who were v.close friends of mine.When they told me one evening of the very generous offer from Pakiland for the lease of their mansion,which they were about to sign,and the Pakis were putting great pressure on them-as it would've been a major diplomatic coup for them to have their embassy in such a grand and distinguished mansion.While sipping my Scotch I gently put them in the "know of things" and recounted my other friend's horrific experience.These good Buddhists almost jumped out of their skins;"bl**dy hell,no way!" said they,and put an immediate end to the Paki endeavour.The Pakis who were almost certain of their coup were totally flummoxed as to what had happened not knowing what had hit them! Thus was my little contribution to sabotaging their interests.
The I vote for their martyrdom!25. Army man says you said you'd liberate Kashmir, rid Afghanistan of Americans, etc., you have had no success (implying Allah does not favor you). TTP says we measure success by bringing about Sharia or martyrdom. TTP reminds army man that at the time when Prophet predicted Ghazawa-e-Hind, Pakistan was part of Hindustan (i.e., TTP is fulfilling prophecy by jihad in Pakistan).
