Shouldn't that acronym be Paki SUAR-Com? Com pronounced as qaum.SSridhar wrote:Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco)
Jus' sayin'.
Shouldn't that acronym be Paki SUAR-Com? Com pronounced as qaum.SSridhar wrote:Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco)
anupmisra wrote:Shouldn't that acronym be Paki SUAR-Com? Com pronounced as qaum.SSridhar wrote:Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco)
Jus' sayin'.
Amber G. wrote:Way to go! TSP..
US lawmakers move bill to designate Pakistan as a terrorist state
Save your shekels. Rohrbacher is on (Congressional) record calling India "Nazi Germany for Minorities". He may have changed his mind later (lets hope this one works) but it is very hard to erase recorded statements.ramana wrote:Going to send contribution to Dana Rohrbacher for this.
Exclusive: Uri Avenged, Spl Forces Cross LoC; Kill 20 Terrorists
At least 20 terrorists have been neutralised in a daring cross-LoC operation by the Indian Army in response to the Uri attack.
Two units of the elite 2 Paras comprising 18-20 soldiers flew across the LoC in the Uri sector in military helicopters and reportedly carried out an operation that killed at least 20 suspected terrorists across three terror camps in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK).
Casualties suffered, including those injured by terrorists, could be as high as 200, sources said.
Military sources revealed to The Quint, which confirmed this information from two other independent sources, that the operation happened during the intervening hours of 20 September and 21 September.
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I insist that news is correct and those killed were Pakistan regulars
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Elite Para Commandos of Indian Army already in PoK. 3 militant camps targeted. PM @narendramodi was in MO Ops room till 2230 last night. Wow
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Elite Para Commandos of Indian Army already in PoK. 3 militant camps targeted. PM @narendramodi was in MO Ops room till 2230 last night. Wow
@Chopsyturvey
Retd Air Marshal of Indian #AirForce, Test Pilot. Member Armed Forces Tribunal
Doesn't NS look like he just received bad news?Amber G. wrote:^^^ The speech can, also be gotten from official un webtv. He just finished it.
Another picture from Paki source Titled "PM talks to Gen Raheel on phone"anupmisra wrote: Doesn't NS look like he just received bad news?
“The Foreign Ministers of Azerbaijan and Turkey expressed grave concern at the deteriorating situation in the Indian occupied Jammu and Kashmir. They also expressed serious concern at the serious human rights violations perpetrated by India against the innocent Kashmiris. The Foreign Minister of Turkey emphasized the urgency of resolving the Jammu and Kashmir dispute, especially in the wake of the recent events,” (sic) said the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Pakistan and added, “The Foreign Minister of Azerbaijan stated that OIC should think of innovative means to highlight the human rights violations happening in the Indian occupied Kashmir”.
Turkey’s support to Pakistan’s high decibel campaign is a surprise especially since Turkish foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu paid a visit to India in August and held extensive discussion on common areas of concern. Turkey had asked India to close down several schools and institutions with ties with the Gulenist movement that Turkey holds responsible for the July 16 failed coup attempt.
But there is news of“Reports of cancellation of exercise are incorrect. The joint military exercise will be held as per scheduled, from 24 September,” Pakistan’s Ambassador to Russia Qazi Khalilullah told The Nation.The clarification from Pakistan’s ambassador to Russia comes after Indian media propagated that Moscow had cancelled its joint military drill with Pakistan in response to a letter from Indian Ministry of External Affairs seeking cancelation of Russian military joint exercise with Pakistan.“Both Pakistan and Russia have developed their bilateral cooperation in various fields including political, economic and defence fields,” Ambassador Qazi Khalilullah added.Foreign Office Spokesman Nafees Zakaria also rejected the Indian claim regarding cancellation of exercise.According to a statement issued by the Foreign Office in Islamabad, Zakaria said the Pak-Russia joint military exercise will be held as per schedule.He said that India is spreading false propaganda regarding cancellation of the exercise by Russia.Around 200 military personnel from Russia and Pakistan will participate in the exercise. Both sides have revealed little else about the drill, dubbed Friendship 2016, except that it will take place in mountainous areas.The fact that the exercise takes place in mountainous terrain could be an indication that Russia is interested in learning from Pakistan’s military counterinsurgency (COIN) operations..
Up to 500 troops on both sides and up to 50 pieces of military equipment, a group of drones and attack and army aviation will be involved in the drills Russia and India will hold a joint military exercise codenamed Indra-2016 at a proving ground in the Primorye Territory on September 23 - October 2, the press-service of the Eastern Military District has said."Russia’s Eastern Military District and India’s Armed Forces will create a joint group for an operation to identify, block and eliminate hypothetical groups of terrorists and illegal armed groups. Aviation and artillery units will be involved," the Eastern Military District’s spokesman, Vladimir Matveyev, said.Participating in the exercise will be up to 500 troops on both sides and up to 50 pieces of military equipment, a group of drones and also attack and army aviation.
Originally the exercise was scheduled for late August-early September. Later, a source close to the Indian Defense Ministry told TASS the drills have postponed till a later date - late September-early October.Russia and India have conducted the Indra exercise every year since 2003
India has come out all guns blazing against Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s address at the UNGA, questioning the neighboring country’s “complete denial” of terrorism that stems from its soil. Soon after Sharif’s address, MEA Spokesperson Vikas Swarup tweeted, “Pak PM Sharif at #UNGA in complete denial of Uri terror attack. 19 infiltration attempts stopped at LoC this year. Indigenous??!!”. “PM Sharif at #UNGA says India poses unacceptable conditions to dialogue. India’s only condition is an end to terrorism. This not acceptable?” MEA questioned. “Pak PM Sharif at #UNGA glorifies Hizbul terrorist Burhan Wani in UN’s highest forum. Shows continued Pak attachment to terrorism,” the MEA Twitter handle hit out.
In an audacious speech, Sharif attacked India over the Kashmir issue, saying, “Kashmiris want freedom from India”. “Peace between India and Pakistan cannot be finally achieved without resolution to the Kashmir dispute.” Sharif also lauded Burhan Wani, the terrorist who had been killed by Indian security forces in Jammu and Kashmir. “The young leader murdered by Indian forces has emerged as a symbol of latest Kashmiri Intifada,” he said. Sharif’s provocative remarks come within days of the terrorist attack on an Indian Army camp in Jammu and Kashmir’s Uri. Eighteen soldiers were martyred in the attack and several others were injured. Four terrorists were neutralized.
The Narendra Modi government has come out strongly to attack Pakistan in wake of the attack. India is seeking international support to globally isolate Pakistan. Calls are growing louder for Pakistan to be declared a ‘terror state’. It is also being reported that PM Narendra Modi has given the nod for security forces to take insurgency by terrorists “head on”.
Earlier today, the Ministry of External Affairs summoned Pakistan High Commissioner to India, Abdul Basit. Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar summoned Basit over the terrorist attack on the Indian Army camp in Jammu and Kashmir’s Uri. “Foreign Secretary Dr Jaishankar called in the High Commissioner of Pakistan Mr Abdul Basit today and reminded him that the Government of Pakistan had made a solemn commitment in January 2004 to not allow its soil or territory under its control to be used for terrorism against India. The persistent and growing violation of this undertaking is a matter of very serious concern,” an MEA statement said. “The latest terrorist attack in Uri only underlines that the infrastructure of terrorism in Pakistan remains active,” the statement said adding that Pakistan was told about the items recovered from terrorists and the markings on them that prove the militants’ Pakistani origin.
Isn't Rohrabacher very anti Indian? I think I remember he was at least 15 years ago.ramana wrote:Amber G. wrote:Way to go! TSP..
US lawmakers move bill to designate Pakistan as a terrorist state
Going to send contribution to Dana Rohrbacher for this.
sivab wrote:https://www.thequint.com/uri-attack/201 ... terrorists
Exclusive: Uri Avenged, Spl Forces Cross LoC; Kill 20 Terrorists
At least 20 terrorists have been neutralised in a daring cross-LoC operation by the Indian Army in response to the Uri attack.
Two units of the elite 2 Paras comprising 18-20 soldiers flew across the LoC in the Uri sector in military helicopters and reportedly carried out an operation that killed at least 20 suspected terrorists across three terror camps in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK).
Casualties suffered, including those injured by terrorists, could be as high as 200, sources said.
Military sources revealed to The Quint, which confirmed this information from two other independent sources, that the operation happened during the intervening hours of 20 September and 21 September.
The established track record of our Prime Minister Narendra Modi and that of the political party he belongs to, the BJP, is to be very vocal in showing that they are robust in upholding matters of National Security and Defence. The on record “silence” of PM Modi and the BJP on the so called cross border raid into Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir is thus atypical. I will need a lot more convincing that news of this so called cross border raid is anything more than a low effort propaganda ploy to attempt to conjure up an image of robust resolve on the part of our PM and the party he belongs to, the BJP.deejay wrote:Tweet deleted.sivab wrote:
Aviator Anil Chopra
@Chopsyturvey
Retd Air Marshal of Indian #AirForce, Test Pilot. Member Armed Forces Tribunal
This is the very same idiot presstitute who did not know or even understand the very basics of the IWT and exposed her colossal ignorance on the subject during her discussions on runditv yesterday.asgkhan wrote:RundeeTv Presstitute comes crawling out of Heera Mandi.
Why Modi Must Continue Showing Patience With Pak
But the truth also is that the Pakistan army's job to weaken Nawaz Sharif's hands, especially his inclination to improve relations with India, has been made much easier by Prime Minister Narendra Modi's actions - or inaction - on Kashmir. The Valley has witnessed unrest for nearly 3 months. Human rights violations are manifest in all kinds of grotesque ways. The BJP-PDP government is either unable or unwilling to reach out and absorb the pain of the victims, even if they are demanding freedom.
It's easy enough to point fingers at Nawaz Sharif, a man who campaigned for better relations with India when he won his own election in 2013. Moreover, the Pakistan Prime Minister has been here before, in the spring-summer of 1999 on the eve of the Kargil conflict. The jury is still out whether Nawaz knew of the Pakistan army plan to use the Northern Light Infantry to invade India at Kargil. Nawaz himself has denied it, often eloquently, including to me in an earlier interview. Remember that the conflict took place in the wake of the happy glow of Atal Behari Vajpayee's bus yatra to Lahore. How could the Pakistan army allow the initiative to slip from its hands?
Imagine the boom-boom of trade and trucks across the Wagah-Attari border and Khokrapar-Munabao as well as across several points of the Line of Control. Imagine the dissolving of the LoC and the international boundary as people travel back and forth, thumbing their impudent noses at the powers-that-be. In the new world order, marked by Facebook and commandeered by Twitter, ancient rules of the game like cross-border terrorism have little play.
But "Operation Parakram" didn't achieve its purpose of defanging Pakistan and steering it in the direction of a normal state. It is unlikely that any similar warlike action will achieve anything 14 years later.
Consistency, and patience. Those are the only two qualities that India - and the world -need to deal with Pakistan. Its people are remarkably warm and generous and resilient. How many nations would have kept millions of Afghan refugees on their soil for three decades? So what is it about the Pakistani army and the ISI that India cannot understand?
The key is to differentiate between the two, treat them as different entities. This means that the Modi government must go to the SAARC summit and show its determination to move the region forward, especially in terms of its business and people-to-people agendas. Expand trade and economic cooperation, don't shut it down. Implement the travel agreement that was signed in late 2013. Throw open the gates. When people begin to get to know each other, they will build bonds that are worth a thousand strategies. One of them will be to marginalize the stranglehold of the army and the security establishments in both countries.
The world including China has roundly condemned the Uri attack. These global leaders are now invoking the friendships they have built with Prime Minister Modi and are counting on him to deescalate and resolve the crisis at hand. Biting the bitter bullet - it comes with the territory of wanting to be a regional leader.
(Jyoti Malhotra has been a journalist for several years and retains an especial passion for dialogue and debate across South Asia.)
Jyoti Malhotra is not a sell-out but she is the type that abhors violence, and knows not that her free speech and status in society is due to violence imposed on these jihadis by someone else whose contribution she is hesitant to acknowledge.Consistency, and patience. Those are the only two qualities that India - and the world -need to deal with Pakistan. Its people are remarkably warm and generous and resilient. How many nations would have kept millions of Afghan refugees on their soil for three decades? So what is it about the Pakistani army and the ISI that India cannot understand?
loss of face & public humiliation is important.Gagan wrote:The thing to remember is that even after the thappad delivered by the Indian Army yesterday, the Pak Fauj will carry on as if nothing happened.
The same game of terrorism will resume.
Pakistan channelizes billions of dollars, much of it diverted from international aid, to training, financing and supporting terrorist groups as militant proxies against its neighbours,
,"The land of Taxila, one of the greatest learning centres of ancient times, is now host to the Ivy League of terrorism. It attracts aspirants and apprentices from all over the world. The effect of its toxic curriculum is felt across the globe
With the approval of authorities, many terrorist organisations raise funds openly in flagrant violation of Pakistan's international obligations,"...India and others in the region are facing Pakistan's long-standing policy of sponsoring terrorism, "the consequences of which have spread well beyond our region.
."The worst violation of human rights is terrorism. When practiced as an instrument of state policy it is a war crime
Terrorists and their leaders continue to roam freely in Pakistan and operate with state support, "The world has not yet forgotten that the trail of that dastardly attack led all the way to Abbottabad in Pakistan."
hypocritical sermons
Pakistan's nuclear proliferation record is marked by deception and deceit,...and yet it talks about restraint, renunciation and peace"...
...Similar false promises it has made to us - the international community on terrorism. Perhaps renunciation of lies and self-restraint on threats could be a good place for Pakistan to start,...
..Even today we have heard support by the Prime Minister of Pakistan for a self-acknowledged commander of a known terrorist organisation...
Pakistan is a democracy deficit country.... practises terrorism on its own people....It extends support to extremist groups, it suppresses minorities and women and denies basic human rights including through draconian laws...
... We cannot and will not allow terrorism to prevail."
Mr President,
I take the floor to exercise the right of reply in response to the long tirade of Pakistan about the situation in the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir.
The worst violation of human rights is terrorism. When practiced as an instrument of state policy it is a war crime.
What my country and our other neighbours are facing today is Pakistan’s long-standing policy of sponsoring terrorism, the consequences of which have spread well beyond our region.
Mr President,
Only last week, the international community honored the memory of thousands of innocent victims from around the world, who lost their lives not far from here in New York fifteen years ago in a most horrifying terror attack.
The world has not yet forgotten that the trail of that dastardly attack led all the way to Abbottabad in Pakistan.
The land of Taxila, one of the greatest learning centres of ancient times, is now host to the Ivy League of terrorism. It attracts aspirants and apprentices from all over the world.
The effect of its toxic curriculum are felt across the globe.
It is ironical therefore that we have seen today the preaching of human rights and ostensible support for self-determination by a country which has established itself as the global epicentre of terrorism.
Mr President,
Shortly before Pakistan gave its hypocritical sermons in this august house today, its envoy in New Delhi was summoned in the context of the most recent of the terror attacks in Uri that claimed 18 Indian lives. That terrorist attack is part of a trail of continuous flow of terrorists trained and armed by our neighbour and tasked to carry out terrorist attacks in my country.
What we see in Pakistan, Mr President, is a terrorist state, which channelizes billions of dollars, much of it diverted from international aid, to training, financing and supporting terrorist groups as militant proxies against it neighbours.
Terrorist entities and their leaders, including many designated by the UN, continue to roam its streets freely and operate with State support. With the approval of authorities, many terrorist organizations raise funds openly in flagrant violation of Pakistan’s international obligations.
Mr President,
Even today we have heard support by the Prime Minister of Pakistan for a self-acknowledged commander of a known terrorist organisation Hizbul Mujahideen.
Pakistan is a country with a democracy deficit. In fact it practices terrorism on its own people. It extends support to extremist groups, it suppresses minorities and women and denies basic human rights including through draconian laws.
As a democracy India is firmly resolved to protect all our citizens from all acts of terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir. We cannot and will not allow terrorism to prevail.
Finally, Mr President, we have heard Pakistan, whose nuclear proliferation record is marked by deception and deceit, talking about restraint, renunciation and peace.
Similar false promises it has made to us - the international community – on terrorism.
Perhaps renunciation of lies and self-restraint on threats could be a good place for Pakistan to start.
I thank you Mr President.
PM of Pakistan talks about the terrorist Wani from Hizbul terrorist organizationg.sarkar wrote:http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/naw ... 31742.html
Nawaz Sharif raising Kashmir with all leaders amid isolation fears
Last Updated: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - 10:12
United Nations: Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has raised the Kashmir issue with almost every world leader he has held talks with on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly session, but his efforts to internationalise the dispute with India appeared to have gained no traction.
Sharif raised the issue with the leaders of the US, the UK, Japan and Turkey and sought their intervention to resolve the matter. He met Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan here yesterday.
"PM Sharif briefed Japanese PM about the grave turn that the situation in occupied Kashmir is taking. Reminded him about UNSC resolutions," Pakistan's envoy to the UN Maleeha Lodhi tweeted.
"PM Nawaz Sharif also apprised his Japanese counterpart of the human rights violations being committed by Indian occupation forces in Kashmir," Lodhi said in another tweet. Erdogan and Sharif "agreed that OIC (Organisation of Islamic Cooperation) Comm on Human Rights should send a fact-finding mission" to Kashmir, Lodhi said.
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