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SaiK wrote:seniors should be given a larger role as within-party CAG members.. just for checks and balances;.. is an excellent way to keep them engaged.

They already are in a check role. What is needed is a balance to their gripes!

I think they all should split the dilli billis from INC and join together in vanvas.

Big things are happening the world over which needs a strong image and these guys want to sabotage the only chance they will get.
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Actually, that is what I meant. If you see the effectiveness of CAG role it plays, pretty much nothing.. they come in only at the end when nothing remains. All money syphoned off, and used up.. left is to write the story line, and pointless investigations for whose benefit?

OTOH, do you think it would be easy for them to say "get out" to the seniors?
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BJP is pipe dreaming in haryana. I guess I have been right on this one. They will get zero again unless the impossible happens BJP + HJC + INLD. Every other combination will falter in front of the congress. I guess this state is firmly in congress hands. BJP has a neta from this state who can shout, speak shayari in parliament, play ugly games in the party, but not get one damn freaking vote for the party in her home state.

http://www.dailypostindia.com/news/5580 ... -poll.html

Too difficult for BJP to get reckoned in poll

The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), deprived of a fine-tuned organisational network, will be hard pressed to win a few Lok Sabha seats in Haryana even if the party chooses to ally with the Haryana Janhit Congress (HJC), which has hardly any support base beyond Hisar. The party had contested five Lok Sabha seats in alliance with the Indian National Lok Dal (INLD) in 2005, but drew a blank. Except Ambala reserved seat, the BJP had failed to put up an impressive show elsewhere. In Ambala, BJP’s Rattan Lal Kataria polled 3,07,688 votes to lose to Kumari Selja, who had got 3,22,258 votes. Similarly in Karnal, former Union Minister ID Swami came a poor third by polling 1,85,437 votes as compared to the Congress’ Arvind Kumar Sharma of 3,04,698 votes, while his nearest contestant Maratha Virender Verma of the Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) got 2,28,352 votes.

“Statistically, you may not find us in a strong position, but we will do fairly well in the coming polls in Haryana,” (How on earth do you expect us to believe that) said Ram Bilas Sharma, BJP’s Haryana unit president. In Sonepat, Kishan Singh Sangwan polled 1,77,511 votes as compared to Jitender Singh, the Congress nominee, who polled 3,38,795 votes. In Gurgaon, Sudha Yadav of the BJP came a poor third by polling 1,25,837 votes as compared to 2,78,516 votes of Rao Inderjit Singh of the Congress, who defeated Zakir Hussain of the BSP. Hussain had got 1,93,652 votes. The party fared slightly better in Faridabad, where Ramchander Bainda got 1,89,663 votes as against 2,57,864 votes of Avtar Singh Bhadana of the Congress.

BJP’s performance in the poll to seven municipal corporations held on June 2 was abysmal. The party won only 25 wards out of a total of 144 wards, clocking 15.01 per cent votes. The BJP had the support of HJC, which did not prove of much help. The BJP had won four seats in Ambala, three in Panchkula, two in Rohtak, three in Karnal, six in Panipat, and seven in Yamunanagar, and drew blank in Hisar, the home-turf of MP and HJC president Kuldeep Bishnoi. “Our chances were sabotaged by some vested interests. We were expecting a much better performance,” said Sharma, also a former minister. (Blah Blah Blah, excuses and nothing else)

In the assembly poll held in October 2009, the BJP was in the fray on its own, and ended up registering 9.05 per cent votes, while the INLD got 25.81 per cent votes, HJC 7.41 per cent and the Congress 35.11 per cent. BJP’s Anil Vij won from Ambala Cantonment, Ghansyam Saraf from Bhiwani, Krishanpal Gurjar from Tigaon, and Kavita Jain from Sonepat. In many constituencies, the BJP fared worse than the BSP. For example, in Kalka assembly seat, the BJP’s Virender Singh polled 1,958 votes, while the BSP’s Vijay Bansal had got 4,975 votes. Similarly, in Naraingarh seat, BJP got only 8,082 votes as compared to the BSP’s 15,404 votes. In Mullana reserved seat, the BJP got 4,954 votes as against 28,113 votes of the BSP.

How strong is the BJP’s state leadership? Ram Bilas Sharma is certainly a veteran among the party’s existing lot in the state, but is tool slow to galvanise the cadres. Having won the assembly poll in 1982, 1987, 1991 and 1996, Sharma lost the assembly poll in 2000 from Mahendragarh and Ballabhgarh as well. In 2004, he fought the Lok Sabha poll from Bhiwani and got 24,467 votes only. He fought the assembly poll from Mahendragarh in 2005 and 2009, but lost both the times. “Through him, the BJP is trying to reach out to the Brahmins of the state. How much benefits the party reaps by doing so remains to be seen. We are trying to organise some big rallies in months to come,” said a BJP functionary. (Quite pathetic organization)

This state is over for NDA. It will be a UPA sweep unless Modi can get a BJP + HJC + INLD, even that I am not sure will yield great results. They may get 4 seats of the 10. As far as BJP as a party is concerned, in Haryana they are nothing more than noise.
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INLD+HJC+BJP is doable in Haryana. The problem in Haryana is that the BJP has failed to make inroads into the Jat and Dalit constituencies who make up 20%+ votes each.
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^are the rest 60% pro-kangrez?
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SaiK wrote:^are the rest 60% pro-kangrez?
No, congress has only 35-36% vote. INLD 25-26. BJP 9, HJC 7. BSP also has some vote.
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Supratik wrote:INLD+HJC+BJP is doable in Haryana. The problem in Haryana is that the BJP has failed to make inroads into the Jat and Dalit constituencies who make up 20%+ votes each.
Thats where INLD will help in getting Jat vote.
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that means bsp + independents could pretty much get bjp the near equal inc votes - 9 + 24 ~ 34%?

matter of fact, independents can add values.. if they can be made to join.
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SaiK wrote:that means bsp + independents could pretty much get bjp the near equal inc votes - 9 + 24 ~ 34%?
Yah, but it does not work like that right. BSP wont come with BJP and neither will bjp approach bjp. Independents will not have vote across the state. That fragmented vote is here to stay. They have to work with inld and hjc and get a solid alliance to crush congress there. This is where Modi has to undo what sushma has done. Given a choice he wud 1st go with inld. But these guys went with hjc first. HJC will oppose any alliance with inld. What has to be seen is how he manages this conundrum and convinces HJC to agree to inld. In the end BJP will probably only contest 4 seats. But thats ok, Haryana is all abt how to drown congress.
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Here is one more: Article from just 3-4 weeks ago.

http://www.dailypostindia.com/news/5417 ... -inld.html

Many in BJP keen to revive alliance with INLD

6/22/2013 10:25:30 AM

The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), which parted ways with the Indian National Lok Dal (INLD) over the issue of seat sharing in Haryana’s assembly poll in 2009, has not yet reconciled to the fact that Kuldeep Bishnoi led Haryana Janhit Congress (HJC) has the potential to boost the saffron outfit’s poll prospects in the state, where 10 Lok Sabha seats are at stake. A section of party leaders feel that the BJP should revive alliance with the INLD, though a couple of senior state party leaders have divergent views. “We need to reassess the entire situation in the wake of the results to the municipal corporation (MC) poll,” said a senior BJP leader, while talking to Daily Post in Panaji during the party’s recently held national executive council meeting.

The BJP, which claims to have a solid support base in urban areas, could win only 25 wards out of a total of 144 wards in the MC of Ambala, Panchkula, Yamunanagar, Karnal, Panipat, Hisar, and Rohtak, despite being in alliance with the HJC, a splinter group of the Congress. The INLD could also win only 16 wards in the seven MCs, which went to the poll on June 2 and the results of which were declared on June 4. INLD could not win even a single ward in Ambala Municipal Corporation (AMC), where 20 wards were at stake. “Had the BJP and INLD contested the poll together, we could have swept the MC poll. Alliance with the HJC did not help us in the MC poll,” averred the BJP leader.The results of MC poll for the BJP and the INLD are like that of the assembly poll in 2009, when the two partners fought the poll separately only to miss the bus by a whisker. BJP contested all 90 seats and won only four seats—Ambala Cantonment, Sonepat, Bhiwani, and Tigaon—by polling 9.05 per cent votes, while the INLD won 31 seats by polling 25.81 per cent votes and its ally, Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD), won Kalanwali reserved seat. HJC, which contested 87 seats, could win only six seats by polling 7.41 per cent votes, and the party’s five MLAs—Zile Ram from Assandh, Dharm Singh from Samalkha, Vinod Bhayana from Hansi, Satpal from Dadri, and Rao Narender Singh from Narnaul, merged themselves with the Congress, which had won 40 seats by polling 35.11 per cent votes.

Will the BJP play second fiddle to the INLD in Haryana? “That is not an issue. The party has to take into consideration the ground realities,” said the BJP leader. Even if the BJP continues to carry on with the HJC, the party may not get more than 50 assembly seats from the HJC, but the ability of the two parties to win the seats remains doubtful. The BJP leadership is also apprehensive of the fact that sympathy factor may heavily tilt the scale in favour of the INLD in rural areas. In 2009, the INLD-BJP alliance broke, as the saffron outfit was asking for 45 assembly seats, while the INLD was not ready to give more than 30 seats. “How many seats a party should aspire to contest in partnership if it can win only four seats on its own,” asked an INLD leader, saying that the alliance issue can only be discussed by the party’s top leaders. How was the electoral battle in 2009 Lok Sabha poll? As an alliance partner, the BJP’s Rattan Lal Kataria polled 3,07,688 votes to lose the seat to Kumari Selja of the Congress, who polled 3,22,258 votes in Ambala, while in Hisar, Sampat Singh of the INLD got 2,41,493 votes and lost to Bhajan Lal, who had got 2,48,476 votes.

So Moral of story as we guessed, either go with both hjc and inld or just go with inld. Who were the dalals in bjp who rushed into alliance with hjc?? Modi recently in his speech in ounjab gave huge indications that he will align with inld pointing to a course correction. Rightly sushma has been sent to the east (i hope that does not involve jharkhand). But from the latest news, the zonal concept was changed with a different formula.

I am sure inld will come on board for VARIOUS REASONS. So BJP can fight maybe 3 seats, INLD 6 and give the hisar seat to HJC. That will be the death knell to congress in Haryana.
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muraliravi wrote:
So Moral of story as we guessed, either go with both hjc and inld or just go with inld. Who were the dalals in bjp who rushed into alliance with hjc?? Modi recently in his speech in ounjab gave huge indications that he will align with inld pointing to a course correction. Rightly sushma has been sent to the east (i hope that does not involve jharkhand). But from the latest news, the zonal concept was changed with a different formula.

I am sure inld will come on board for VARIOUS REASONS. So BJP can fight maybe 3 seats, INLD 6 and give the hisar seat to HJC. That will be the death knell to congress in Haryana.
Last assembly election was fixed by D4 for builders lobby and land mafia of Delhi by breaking allaince with INLD and going with HJC which has mostly urban base (i will be happy to correct if wrong on this one). Rural INLD + Urban BJP makes sense. Remember Choutala attended Modi CM oath ceremony and immediately after ended up in jail .
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Sushupti wrote:
muraliravi wrote:
So Moral of story as we guessed, either go with both hjc and inld or just go with inld. Who were the dalals in bjp who rushed into alliance with hjc?? Modi recently in his speech in ounjab gave huge indications that he will align with inld pointing to a course correction. Rightly sushma has been sent to the east (i hope that does not involve jharkhand). But from the latest news, the zonal concept was changed with a different formula.

I am sure inld will come on board for VARIOUS REASONS. So BJP can fight maybe 3 seats, INLD 6 and give the hisar seat to HJC. That will be the death knell to congress in Haryana.
Last assembly election was fixed by D4 for builders lobby and land mafia of Delhi by breaking allaince with INLD and going with HJC which has mostly urban base (i will be happy to correct if wrong on this one). Rural INLD + Urban BJP makes sense. Remember Choutala attended Modi CM oath ceremony and immediately after ended up in jail .
He will out on bail on August 1st. Lets see how modi handles this. Yeddy, MNS, Marandi and Chautala should all be on BJP's side. That is what modi has to manage.
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How Congress managed to kill the ‘India Story’
Swapan Dasgupta on how Congress managed to kill the ‘India Story’.Tune in as he tears into Congress for looming economic crisis.


http://www.nwrlive.com/2013/07/17/how-c ... -1521.html
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Another IPS Sanjiv Bhatt story.
Complete probe against Satish Verma in three Months:Gujarat HC

http://deshgujarat.com/2013/07/19/compl ... ujarat-hc/
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Supratik wrote:INLD+HJC+BJP is doable in Haryana. The problem in Haryana is that the BJP has failed to make inroads into the Jat and Dalit constituencies who make up 20%+ votes each.
The entire congress strategy is keep both dalits and Jats on its side.
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^^^ Yeah, that is being heavily promoted on twitter by Tajinder Bagga & Co. He has taken it from some wordpress blog whose authenticity is unknown.
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At 9:56 am by my computer clock today I clicked the golgol news and this popped up. What do these guys want to communicate. That NaMo is divisive. Well if he is then why all the fuss. Why not just go home and sleep. What will he damage if he is not workable.

Like paki missiles that never fail to find their mark.
No Uddhav Thackeray backing for Narendra Modi as PM candidate - Times of India - ‎3 hours ago‎
BJP is communal, never praised Narendra Modi as secular: Anna Hazare - Daily News & Analysis - ‎10 minutes ago‎
Enough evidence to conduct trial against Narendra Modi: Zakia Jafri's lawyer - Daily News & Analysis - ‎15 hours ago‎
Trinamool Congress will never support Narendra Modi: Mamata Banerjee - Daily News & Analysis - ‎5 hours ago‎
Congress prays to Lord Jagannath to give 'Sad Buddhi' to Narendra Modi - Daily News & Analysis - ‎10 hours ago‎
Narendra Modi tries to divide everything between Hindus and Muslims: Digvijay ... - Daily News & Analysis - ‎5 hours ago‎
TMC will not support Narendra Modi: Mamata Banerjee - Economic Times - ‎12 hours ago‎
Lok Sabha polls will shatter Narendra Modi's PM dreams, says Congress - Daily News & Analysis - ‎7 hours ago‎
Anna Hazare denies praising Narendra Modi, says BJP's agenda is communal - India Today - ‎12 hours ago‎
Digvijay Singh slams Narendra Modi for his 'burqa' speech - Daily News & Analysis - ‎7 hours ago‎
On Rashtriya Swayam Sevak (RSS) advice, Narendra Modi takes all aboard - Daily News & Analysis - ‎5 hours ago‎
Rajeev Shukla pokes fun at BJP after Shiv Sena ignores Narendra Modi factor - Daily News & Analysis - ‎4 hours ago‎
Narendra Modi holds one-on-one meeting with Advani - Daily News & Analysis - ‎10 hours ago‎
Om Namo Namah: Narendra Modi dominates BJP's 2014 mission plan - India Today - ‎15 minutes ago‎
BJP puts up posters projecting Narendra Modi as 'Hindu nationalist' - Daily News & Analysis - ‎7 hours ago‎
Narendra Modi hired American ad agency for image building: Congress - Daily News & Analysis - ‎14 hours ago‎
BJP projecting Narendra Modi as he is darling of businessmen: Prakash Karat - Daily News & Analysis - ‎12 hours ago‎
Mamata Banerjee launches veiled dig at Narendra Modi - Daily News & Analysis - ‎12 hours ago‎
BJP ready with 2014 campaign plan, team headed by Narendra Modi to be ... – NDTV 18 hours ago
On RSS advice, Narendra Modi brings all aboard on BJP poll train - Daily News & Analysis - ‎9 hours ago‎
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Modi to Congress " Main teri Kah ke Loonga"

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Yes, the formula in HY should be INLD 5-6 seats, BJP 3-4 seats, HJC 1 seat. BJP had a 20%+ vote share in HY once but incompetent leadership killed it. Also AGP although disintegrating should be an alliance partner in AS. Maybe BJP 7-8 seats, AGP 5-6 seats, BPF 1 seat.
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Pranav wrote:^^^ Yeah, that is being heavily promoted on twitter by Tajinder Bagga & Co. He has taken it from some wordpress blog whose authenticity is unknown.
No. It is in line with someone who removed the picture of Bharat Mata yet allowed Amir Khan with a skull cap in the same platform at RamLila Maidan.
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Gory picture of second BJP leader killed in TN circulating in twitter. View discretion advised.
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Disquiet is growing. This murder spree may either silence the Hindu nationalist movement in TN or electrify it with energy, purpose and drive. Sadly, the former's likely unless the state steps in to provide basic law and order (i.e. a level playing field)

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It is the KL model of preventing the RSS in setting up a base. In KL the Marxists have perfected this tactics while the INC looked the other way. The South and WB are the only states left where they have a free run.
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^^^
I feel the pain of the well wishers and family, but this should be expected. INC can never let the BJP get comfortable in the South. that will be the death of INC. period. and there are enough factions in the South who will look at BJP with suspicion and discomfort b/c they could potentially disturb the apple cart of regional politics sustaining the power of local elites over the population. they will collaborate with INC if it means they can wipe off a new pan-Indian force from entering their zone. It's not just in TN, where the motives of the regional parties in keeping BJP out should be obvious, but also in AP where TDP in the near future might do the same, if it appears that BJP is making inroads.
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I have blamed BJP for not developing its roots in the South. In 2009, its leaders should have set a reasonable goal of winning 5 seats in TN. South is just an after thought. All these people waking up and suddenly pointing out 3-4 leaders hacked is fine; however Hindu and RSS leaders have been hacked for many many years now. The MSM does not report, and top media and political leaders do not talk about these things. Christians and Muslims together probably account for less than 15% in TN; yet BJP cannot penetrate TN. Laughing matter.
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TN has many atheists. Maybe thats why.
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if they remove the hindu tag, and move on to a more dharmic tag (sdre style), then inroading into TN would not be a problem. firstly, they need to plan that.. and take a step at it.

but if they want to start with a bang... make rajnikant join bjp.
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It has nothing do with atheism. These are targeted killings to prevent setting up of a base. In WB the Left has used this tactics for decades to prevent the opposition from setting up a base specially in rural areas.
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/345 ... ition.html

Bloody hell, this is freaking unbelievable, is it modi effect, bjp, kjp, bsr and jds to go in alliance against congress. That is sure 28-0 for sure. Congress will be wiped out in Karnataka.
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wait for lok ayuktha of Gujarat to start "working" and you will find lot of cases against NaMo. INC governer appoints lok ayuktha and verabhadra Singh's daughter is the judge in Gujarat high court. We are all ignoring this like attack waiting to happen soon. SC already held if you are jailed you can not contest in elections. Modi can be arrested very near to elections and D4 plus INC will have their win irrespective of the results.
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Narayana Rao wrote:wait for lok ayuktha of Gujarat to start "working" and you will find lot of cases against NaMo. INC governer appoints lok ayuktha and verabhadra Singh's daughter is the judge in Gujarat high court. We are all ignoring this like attack waiting to happen soon. SC already held if you are jailed you can not contest in elections. Modi can be arrested very near to elections and D4 plus INC will have their win irrespective of the results.
Boss, no one is concerned becos of the following

1. They cannot file a single case against NAMO and they cant manufacture any, period.
2. The best they can do is file a case on his ministers etc. etc.
3. Modi is a smart politician and will drop his aides who are charged with corruption like a hot potato.
4. Modi is no Yeddy, he is personally non-corruptible and they will not find a shred of evidence against him in anything. So their best bet is troubling his aides, not him. They cannot reach him even with manipulation.
5. Even his ministers, they cant bar from contesting elections just by arresting, the SC verdict says "CONVICTED by court" not arrested by Congress bureau of investigation.
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Guruji, Cases can be created on the basis of nothing. We know what happened to Pragnya Singh Tkakur and the Army Officer. Thye have no case on either of them. If MHA can one day say that girl is LET and now says she is innocent girl and cases are being filed on such basis and all media drama can be created in our nation, believe me it is not that difficult to create a case on NaMo. We may even see his name linked to that encounter case itself. Safed Dadi theory is already put in place. They have lok ayuktha with them and INC got him in place to create lot of cases. Ultimately they all fail to get a conviction. but that is one generation away.

But I wonder if INC be that foolish. Already news reports suggests that INC realizing its mistake of too much attacking on NaMo. Outsourcing the attacks to CBI at this stage seriously boomerang and lead to huge Hindu mobilization in BJP favour. But one can be expect careful behavior with present day INC they seems to have lost all senses now a days.
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KJoishy wrote:TN has many atheists. Maybe thats why.
:rotfl: It is a canard believed by some. Surprisingly people in BRF believe such stories. I know Periyar and DK will be thrown in next. I was born and brought in TN, and it is a darn religious (and cattiest) place. It is a land of temples - big ones and street corner ones. People are as pious as any other state in the country. Sure there are atheists.
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well gin sahib.. let us consider periyar and dk is thrown in there as well for their communistic agendas, now tell how much they are attributable to the giant temples of TN. what is there contribution?

are you saying this:

ban aryanism, ban brahminism, .. hence atheist. the problem in tn is racism (sub-castism precisely) and not atheism. even proven by recent love marriage kills.
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SaiK: I do not understand what you are saying or asking.
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i am saying the current atheist gen TN politicians has got nothing to do with temples in TN nor the religion. btw, please consider atheist from western definitions as against indic one. atheism per indic thoughts would be another religion by itself.
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i am saying the current atheist gen TN politicians has got nothing to do with temples in TN nor the religion. btw, please consider atheist from western definitions as against indic one. atheism per indic thoughts would be another religion by itself.
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Saik'ji - why are you repeating 4 times? Will that make swamyG (or anybody of us) understand you better? :-D. In jest only.
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