Re: GLOBAL ECONOMY
Posted: 22 Nov 2008 01:06
Is Citi really headed to dissolution? The stock action today sure seems to suggest it.
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Crisis presents a unique opportunity for India to take a big leap forward India needs a strong leadership and a strong government which has both the capacity to overcome the current crisis and also a clear vision to resolutely pursue long-term goals. I say so because I believe that the current crisis, hurting though it is, presents a unique opportunity for India to take a big leap forward. We can achieve India’s renaissance in the backdrop of the extraordinary changes taking place in the global economic and political order. It falls upon the present generation of leadership and our civil society to offer an intellectual and strategic template for the nation to move forward, one that is consistent with the self-image of a proud and ancient nation and one that serves the socio-economic aspirations of the majority of Indians.
The western monopoly over global economic processes, one that has lasted for over two centuries and which gave the West a dominant position as the principal arbiter for the international community, has now most certainly run its course. No statistic demonstrates this more succinctly than the fact that India’s foreign exchange reserves are greater than the IMF’s current reserve balance. I urge all my fellow Indians to appreciate the gigantic forces of history at play. For the first time since the early 1800s, India along with China and other non-European nations are on the cusp of achieving a dignified position in the international political economy. When compared to the excesses of the western world, Asian frugality stands in sharp contrast. In fact, it is precisely this aspect ? the surplus of Asian savings ? that has sustained the debt-ridden lifestyle of the average American household. China’s $1 trillion plus foreign exchange reserves denominated in US government bonds exemplify this fact. The fact that the emerging world has emerged as the principal creditor for the international economy is one of ironies of the last decade. It is also a manifestation of the relative decline of the industrialized economies. The ongoing credit crisis is the final culmination of this global imbalance ? America’s quest to live beyond its means. Thus, rather than calling for a restoration of this unhealthy economic relationship between Asia and the West ? whereby the latter continues to draw upon the savings of Asian households to finance their exorbitant lifestyles ?, and rather than being worried about the de-industrialization of the West, it is incumbent for the emerging economies such as India to begin massively re-industrializing at home. And for this to become a reality, the rejuvenation of rural India, driven into penury and indebtedness by the neglect of the past years ? the kind of debt-induced distress that has caused thousands of farmers to commit suicide ? ought to be the starting point for a new economic philosophy by the next Government. It will indeed be the starting point, if the NDA gets the mandate to form the next Government.
I work for CITI and two days ago they called my entire department into a room and told all of us they were sending the department to India. Its pathetic the gov should have never given any money to the financial industry because all the entire industry will do is this very thing invest in cheaper labor taking the Employment rate down even further dragging the economy down even further and still there will be no sign of relief and they did all that with money from the same people they screwin over.
Won't be long before aspersions are also cast on Vikram Pandit's origins.Acharya wrote:Found in a chat
I work for CITI and two days ago they called my entire department into a room and told all of us they were sending the department to India. Its pathetic the gov should have never given any money to the financial industry because all the entire industry will do is this very thing invest in cheaper labor taking the Employment rate down even further dragging the economy down even further and still there will be no sign of relief and they did all that with money from the same people they screwin over.
Get in on the newest growth industry: the layoff business
Friday November 21, 8:46 am ET
By Stanley Bing, columnist
The mood is as black and sour as a canned olive. Flat is the new up. Every industry is either in the tank or circling the bowl. But wait! Not every one. There is, ladies and gentlemen, one area of vigor in this challenging environment, and those of us who are smart, savvy, and bent on survival would be well advised to jump on board.
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It's the layoff business. Let's look at some of the available postings in this terrific new sector of corporate enterprise.
Associate Layoff Coordinator. This is nothing more than a glorified assistant post, but it comes with the knowledge that while times are bad, the last department to suffer layoffs is the Layoff Department. Pay grade: $35K and up.
Director of Layoff Services. This is perhaps the hardest job in the hierarchy, because here is where the rubber meets the road that leads straight off the cliff. This is the guy who has to talk to the guys who need to be talked to. It's a dog's job, but history shows that the ability to actually execute the tough stuff is what marks a person for future positions of power and influence. Guys who aren't willing to kill people simply don't do as well. Pay grade: $75K to $125K - not too bad for those who enjoy their work.
Vice President, Layoff Operations. A far less tedious and more conceptual post. The Vice President must plan the large-scale moves that are dictated from above. It's not all gravy, though. The VP is the one who's required to listen to the whining of middle managers when they are informed that a certain percentage of their headcount must be rendered into chicken fat. Pay grade: $125K to $225K, based on years of service and the amount of fear you can engender in every phone call.
Executive Vice President, Layoff Administration. Now we're in the first layer of the stratosphere, an altitudinous position most often occupied by a person who used to have a legitimate financial function when there were beans to be counted. Now that there are almost no beans, he counts heads. This is the individual who looks at the entire org chart and asks, "Why can't we simply eliminate the whole right side of this thing and have the left side do it?" Pay grade: $250K to $500K, plus a potential slice of what you help to save.
President, Layoffs Division. Here is possibly the saddest person in the entire layoff business. Seeing it all. Knowing that among the many people who must be asked to leave there will be a significant layer of high-middle managers who once were his friends. Ironically, most of the people on the Layoff team are actually oblivious to the fact that they work there. They believe they are still in Accounting, or Law, or Public Relations, or Finance, and are just on temporary Layoff duty. This guy knows he's in it until the last buzzard falls off its perch in Death Valley. Pay grade: $1 million? Two?
Chairman and Chief Executive Layoff-icer. "A single death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic," Josef Stalin observed. He spoke for the kind of farseeing leader who, at the nosebleed level, sleeps well every night after issuing the orders to do what must be done and leaving the details to others. That's not all the chief must accomplish, of course. He or she must also sell the appropriate statistics to the bloodthirsty Street. And the Street is buying. In fact, at this juncture, excellence in the Layoff game may be the very best product a corporation can sell the guys in charge of the really big picture. Pay grade: $5 million per year, unless he has the good fortune to be fired.
These are just a few of the niches you could find your notch in. Whatever you do, it pays to get a toehold and stay put. It's the only place today where you can be safe while practicing the Golden Rule of business. You know the one. Do unto others before they do it to you?
The Big three need no mercy, recall that they were pushing Hummer, as H2O as recently as May, June in the 1980s (late) GM started the Saturn Plant in TN to make Fuel efficient small cars (non unionesd) gradually they turned on the Saturn SUVs (Vue) and all kinds of garbage for short term gains, they opposed new technologies, fuel efciency standards, loobied against Hybrid cars and landed everybody in this bloody mess, no tax money periodramana wrote:X-posted..
I dont understand Paulson strategy. he was authorised $700b for bailout.he spends $300b and says he is saving for next admin. Then why did he ask for $700B? is there another shoe to drop?
And whats with the refusal to bailout the big three automakers? Is it to get the Unions to make concessions? The bankruptcy of the big three will be like Lehman Bros. They are intertwined to so many upstream and downstream enterprises, it will lock and seize the economy. Why are they refusing to extend the loans? Unlike the bailout of the banks its not an investment but a loan.
Or is this a plan for new economy post Unions et al?
No fear.vsudhir wrote:India gaining a high profile as job-stealer is no good.
Linkvsudhir wrote:Won't be long before aspersions are also cast on Vikram Pandit's origins.Acharya wrote:Found in a chat
Citigroup may replace Vikram Pandit as CEO
PTI
New York, November 22, 2008
Citigroup's Board is considering firing its Chief Executive Vikram Pandit, who was appointed as CEO late last year to infuse confidence, as the banking giant finds itself searching for hope all over again.
Replacing Pandit - an enthusiastic defender of the company's existing mix of businesses - is one of the options being considered by Citi executives, along side selling all or part of the company, a public endorsement from the government or a new financial lifeline to stabilise the banking behemoth, after its shares took a sharp plunge this week.
In a series of tense meetings and telephone calls, the executives weighed several options, including whether to replace Citigroup's chief executive Vikram S Pandit or to sell all or part of the company, the New York Times reported.
The paper reported that the company's executives on Friday entered into talks with federal officials about how to stabilise the struggling financial giant.
The report came amidst some analysts saying that infusion of $50 to $100 billion might be needed to bail out the bank.
The course of action, however, remained uncertain on Friday night, the people involved in talks were quoted as saying, and other options may yet emerge. But after a year of gaping losses and an accelerating decline in share price, Citigroup, which has $2 trillion in assets and operations in scores of countries, is running out of time, analysts were quoted by The New York Times as saying.
The paper said, Citigroup's management and some board members held several calls with Henry M Paulson Jr, the Treasury secretary, and with the president of the Federal Reserve of Bank of New York, Timothy E Geithner, who later emerged as President-elect Barack Obama's choice to be Treasury secretary.
"SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE"
Financial markets are waiting for some sort of Citigroup announcement this weekend, and if nothing happens, the bank's stock is likely to plunge further on Monday, analysts said.
Citigroup's stock dropped to a low of $3.05 on Friday, a level not seen for about 16 years, spurring the bank's management to talk to the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve about its options.
The bank is not in danger of near-term collapse, people close to Citigroup said on Friday. Depositors are sticking with the bank, as are trading counterparties. The capital ratio that regulators look at most carefully, namely the tier-one capital ratio, is well above minimum required levels.
But a rapid decline in share price can make customers skittish and cut into a bank's business, wrote analysts at independent research boutique CreditSights on Saturday.
"Unfortunately, we feel like we have seen this movie before," they added. Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc (nyse: LEHMQ - news - people ) and Washington Mutual Inc (nyse: WM - news - people ) both experienced major declines in their shares, followed by an exodus of customers. Lehman filed for bankruptcy, while regulators took over Washington Mutual.
According to the Wall Street Journal report, a newly created "bad bank" structure might take on some of Citigroup's more than $1.23 trillion of off-balance sheet assets. Citigroup might bear the initial losses on the assets, and the government might cover losses beyond a particular threshold, the newspaper reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
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definition of a lawyer :LPO's legal process outsourcing
That is what I was suspecting. It looks like a done deal. Vikram Pandit will make way for Llyod Blankenfien in the merged company.
Listen to the wisdom of our ansestors who regarded physical gold and silver as the only form of real money. We have all been tricked into working for stuff the powers that be can render worthless with a stroke of a pen.for dollar earning NRI's I would think opening a euro or swiss franc
account with a MNC bank would be a prudent thing...
The day that happens is the day we can officially declare the most prudent investment to be a shotgun and a couple of crates of ammo.Singha wrote:my friend was speculating that US Govt might at some point default on
redemption of its maturing T-bills held in huge nos by the arabs and east asians.
Yup, more III world SDRE traits showing up amongst former TFTA stiff upper lips onlee.Psychics say their business is robust, as do astrologers and people who channel spirits, read palms and otherwise predict the future (albeit not the winning lottery numbers). Their clients, who include a growing number of men, are often professional advice-givers themselves, in fields like real estate and investments, and they typically hand over anywhere from $75 to $1,000 an hour for this form of insight.
Land is that its taxable and immovable. You cannot pack up and run off with land. If you stop paying your taxes, you'll soon find out who really owns all land.Land...folks...land...land and more land. It should be a part of ones primary investment for all times. We spring forth from it and return to it...we can learn to live off it as well.
A wise friend once told me, long back when I was a wide-eyed FOB here that the US is a great place to live and work in but not to grow old in , fall sick in or die in..... There it becomes very expensive onlee.The procedure, which is not understood by most patients or even many doctors, generally doesn't come into play when there is an emergency. But it has raised eyebrows for several reasons: Hospital administrators are looking at patient data—credit scores, credit-card limits, and 401(k) balances—not usually associated with treatment decisions.
Patients are surprised to learn that they're being subjected to the analysis, especially so in the case of nonprofit hospitals that historically have been magnanimous with charity care. And some health experts fear that hospitals will use techniques borrowed from the mortgage and car-loan industries to deny treatment to consumers with little or no health insurance.
"The hospitals are trying to balance their mission with the financial realities of the market," says Aaron Katz, a lecturer on health policy at the University of Washington in Seattle. "That has led to certain decisions, such as a wallet biopsy, that could affect [a patient's] access to care."
So now, hospitals can financially engineer their treatments AND that treatment's PRICING. Sounds like healthcare is emulating Wall Street, trying to learn how much they can gouge one for treatment, and, giving you 'things' you never encountered before; MSRA, Staph...pick you poison.
Looks like they are trying to bring the stocks and market down so that the Fed and US govt getsSatya_anveshi wrote:That is what I was suspecting. It looks like a done deal. Vikram Pandit will make way for Llyod Blankenfien in the merged company.
So far no article has used "controlled demolition" in regard to financial crisis to earn more sympathy/loyalty and it is amusing.Acharya wrote:Satya_anveshi wrote:
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