Bharat Rakshak

PratikDas wrote:

I trust the qualifications of ***, my doctor, and my lawyer.

chetak wrote:

merlin wrote:
Give me some of what you are smoking saar! Pretty potent stuff

Sure thing!

Check out the following purveyors of real fine quality merchandise. Their stuff is so good that you can smoke it as well as use it for fertilizer.

Gujral and Co.

Devegowda and Sons.

MMS Enterprises.

If they can peddle it, amma can and will do better.

Amma may surprise you yet, not to mention mayavati! They have already submitted viable business plans and are awaiting partners and financing.

It's a seller's market onlee

chaanakya wrote:

PratikDas wrote:

I trust the qualifications of ***, my doctor, and my lawyer.

Yet when they fail you , you change them or consult better ones.

merlin wrote:

chetak wrote:{quote="merlin"}

Give me some of what you are smoking saar! Pretty potent stuff

Sure thing!

Check out the following purveyors of real fine quality merchandise. Their stuff is so good that you can smoke it as well as use it for fertilizer.

Gujral and Co.

Devegowda and Sons.

MMS Enterprises.

If they can peddle it, amma can and will do better.

Amma may surprise you yet, not to mention mayavati! They have already submitted viable business plans and are awaiting partners and financing.

It's a seller's market onlee

Just because we have had utter morons and bufoons for PMs doesn't mean we need more of the same. If an amma can place state interests above and at the cost of national interests how is she any different from other separatists.

kshatriya wrote:Speaking to the TN youth (non fishermen s ) one this is clear -> most of them are pro- Kudankulam. The snakes have all been smoked out. On a side note, All wetdreams of a separating TN is officially over because of these protests.. Most of the youth have now seen what certain Religious groups stand for, especially the ones behind these protests.

chetak wrote:

kshatriya wrote:Speaking to the TN youth (non fishermen s ) one this is clear -> most of them are pro- Kudankulam. The snakes have all been smoked out. On a side note, All wetdreams of a separating TN is officially over because of these protests.. Most of the youth have now seen what certain Religious groups stand for, especially the ones behind these protests.

Really?

The wet dreams seem to be alive and well on the BR forum

kshatriya wrote:

chetak wrote:{quote="kshatriya"}Speaking to the TN youth (non fishermen s ) one this is clear -> most of them are pro- Kudankulam. The snakes have all been smoked out. On a side note, All wetdreams of a separating TN is officially over because of these protests.. Most of the youth have now seen what certain Religious groups stand for, especially the ones behind these protests.

Really?

The wet dreams seem to be alive and well on the BR forum

It will exist only in forums. Wetdreams have to be vented somewhere. IMHO, Its good for India that these protests are continuing. Tamil Hindus/Muslims will now identify with rest of Indians over Tamils who are running these protests on behalf of their foreign paymasters. A few tiny southern districts don't make TN. The protests are now slowly taking a communal angle. There will be long term effects of these protests in TN

And I wonder how many of these turncoats who are advocating separation of TN are in India.

PratikDas wrote:

“The protesters are asking for copies of the inter-governmental agreements between
India and Russia as well as drawings and design details of the 1,000 MW Russian nuclear plant, which is proprietory information and cannot be shared,” Srikumar Banerjee, chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) said on the sidelines of the Indian Science Congress here.

This is also no business of any civilian, not matter how much the supposedly downtrodden try to sugar coat things. Motives must be investigated.

I have noticed that the self-assumed freedom warriors have a LOT of trouble answering this question.

chetak wrote:She is not.

When you have a weak centre, this is bound to happen

Pranav wrote: Openness is desirable to the extent possible without compromising proprietary secrets.

Authorities should describe safety systems, redundancy etc at a level of technical detail that might be appropriate for say an article in IEEE Spectrum.

chetak wrote:
Some of the vocal ones here seem to be comfortably ensconced in the religious viper's bosom of the US whilst advocating "freedom of speech" and separatism in India.

Hypocrites.

merlin wrote:

chetak wrote:She is not.

When you have a weak centre, this is bound to happen

Agree on the weak centre part, but that will never be solved until one single national party gets more than 250 on their own. Otherwise every two bit regional politician can blackmail the centre for any illegitimate demands.

nawabs wrote:Replacing a largely independent authority with a Government controlled one.

Sanatanan wrote:From TOI, 8 Jan, 2012
Developed by DRDO:
'Tulsi' to be used for anti-radiation medicine

Added later:
Following is really OT here, but I could not resist the temptation to add these lines here juat as a piece of interesting information:
There is a beautiful composition by Saint Thyagaraja, in Telugu, invoking the devine qualities of Tulasi leaves. The first line (पल्लवि -- Pallavi) goes thus: तुलसि दलमुलचे स्न्तोषमुगा पूजिन्तु . . .

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Bhardwaj {Director Technical, NPCIL} said there continues to be concerns about nuclear energy and resistance to it as things are not clear. “There are concerns about radiation. At Tarapur, where we have had 41 years of reactor operations, people are not worried. People in new areas (where the nuclear reactors are being set up or proposed like Koodankulam and Jaitapur) are worried due to the gap in understanding radiation. This should be addressed and is being addressed,” he said.

He explained to the students that everyone is living in a naturally radioactive world. Citing numbers, Bhardwaj said compared to the average natural radiation background dose of 2,400 microsieverts per year, the radiation dose from the Indian nuclear power plants during 2010 was 0.42 to 39.6 microsieverts to persons near the plant boundaries. “This is insignificant compared to natural background. And this is possible due to layers of security and safety features (at our plants). Nuclear energy is thus the safest (energy source) in India,” he said.
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The Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant (KKNPP) has come up with unparalleled safety features and it has been constructed in such a way that it shall withstand any sort of natural calamity, be it earthquake or tsunami.

Also, the fears of radiation and threat to marine life are only hypothetical since the nuclear power plant at Kalpakkam is good evidence to prove that the discharged water does not have any radioactivity as the sea water is used only for cooling the system.

This was the message sent out by a two-member team from KKNPP, who made a presentation for students of Yadava College here on Tuesday to create awareness of the advanced safety features and multiple safety systems that are in place to meet any eventuality.

P.A. Suresh Babu, Additional Chief Engineer (Quality Assurance), along with P. Ganapathy Sundaram, Reactor Physicist, explained the “highly advanced additional safety features” provided for the Kudankulam plant compared to other nuclear plants in the country.

“If we take tsunami, the power plant will not get affected and will remain safe because it is designed with eight feet elevation from main sea level. The Kudankulam plant has a ‘tsunami wall' (26 feet) for protection,” Mr. Suresh Babu said.

Stating that the plant had a first of its kind and more sophisticated Passive Heat Removal System to ensure cooling of the fuel under most-stressed condition, the public awareness material distributed to students and faculty informed that the functioning of this system was demonstrated and validated during hot run of the plant.

Mr. Babu stressed that the Kudankulam plant would be very safe due to passive inbuilt systems and improved technology. “We are now on a mission of conducting awareness programmes in schools and colleges for the younger generation to understand the importance of nuclear power to meet India's needs,” he said.

Apart from being safe from tsunami, the KKNPP was designed to withstand earthquake because the installed seismic sensors would automatically initiate the stoppage of reactor. “It is a generation next plant. Every minute detail has been taken care of — be it in selection of location, design, equipment, construction and operation. Technically, we can assure that it is a safe nuclear plant and this is what we are trying to explain to remove people's apprehensions,” the Additional Chief Engineer said.

The Kudankulam plant officials also dismissed the talk about radiation chances because the radiation level was being monitored continuously around the plant.

In the wake of heightened concerns on nuclear safety following the Fukushima accident, India’s topmost cancer hospital plans to set up a series of cancer registries around nuclear power plants, first of which will come up in Kaiga.

The cancer registry will undertake door-to-door surveys outside the exclusion zone of nuclear power plants to check if there are any unusual increase in the number of cancer cases. In case a spike is found, doctors of Tata Memorial Centre (TMC) will check if it is linked to radiation.

Though existing scientific evidence shows no link between increase in cancer prevalence and nuclear radiation anywhere around the 435 nuclear power plants in the world, the TMC’s effort is the first one of Indian origin to establish an independent database.

“The first three registries will come up in Kaiga, Kakrapar (Gujarat) and Rawatbhatta (Rajasthan). We have submitted a proposal to the Planning Commission,” K M Mohandas who heads the Centre for Cancer Epidemiology at TMC told Deccan Herald.

The proposal worth more than Rs 100 crore envisages the recruitment of 120 technical staff and 30 scientists at the TMC to manage all the registries. In case of deaths, verbal autopsies will be conducted to find out its cause and check any radiation linkage.

The registries, Mohandas said, were meant for only data collection and would not offer any health care service.

Operational nuclear power plants are in Tarapur, Rawatbhatta, Narora, Kakrapar,Chennai and Kaiga while the two 1000 MW units at Kudankulam are stuck due to public agitation. Studies carried out in other locations suggest that cancer rates have not increased in people living around nuclear power plants.

A senior official from Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd admitted over the years that NPCIL did very little to ally people’s fear on nuclear safety. “Our presentations used to have only one slide on nuclear safety as a passing reference whereas the rest would be on growth,” said S A Bhardwaj, director (technical) NPCIL.

People friendly step

Smarting from the debacle at Kudankulam and Jaitapur, the nuclear establishment is about to take yet another people-friendly step in which 120 of its environment safety laboratories will release the background radiation level of major cities and localities – similar to roadside weather boards – to convey to the public that radiation is always present in nature and there is nothing unusual or scary about it.

“We have asked the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre to make the radiation information available to the public in the next few months,” Bhardwaj said.

NPCIL talks to restart

The stalled negotiation between India and France on the purchase of first two 1650 MW reactors for Jaitapur is set to restart soon with the French nuclear regulatory authority certifying the EPR reactor to be installed in Jaitapur on the Maharashtra coast, reports DHNS from New Delhi.

Following Fukushima nuclear accident in March, the commercial talks between NPCIL and French energy major Areva came to a standstill.

Sanatanan wrote:From a web site called businessgreen.com which I have not come across before:
Post dated 9 Jan, 2012:
India appoints ex-nuclear chief [color=#FF0000][i]{Dr A. Kakodkar}[/i] ... ar Mission[/b]

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Q: Yes, but how do you propose to deal with the opposition to nuclear power projects going forward?

A: All I can say is that the opposition to nuclear plants is fuelled by the global anti-nuclear lobby, so-called environment activists and local politics. To meet this challenge, NPC has launched a massive campaign to reach out to people and provide them with the factual position on NPC’s capabilities, safety and the economic performance of its plants in the most transparent manner possible.

The situation can be compared to waking people who are already awake but are wearing tinted glasses supplied by vested interests.

NPC has compiled detailed scientific data on radiation, environment impact and safety — these have been released in the public domain. The data are supplemented by national and international statistics. We are confident that the efforts we have put in will pay off in convincing people with regard to safety and livelihood.

Of course, another challenge is the high expectations of populations near upcoming projects of an improvement in the quality of life and the benefits that they will derive from the plants. We are focusing in a big way on corporate social responsibility (CSR) so that people are assured of the credibility of the provisions we have made, the ultimate aim being inclusive growth. {No point in claiming to improve quality of life if people in the sterilised zone are going to be prevented from adding value to their property.}

Q: Did the protests ahead of the commissioning of unit I of Kudankulam come as a surprise?

A: We had established a great rapport and relationship with the neighbourhood population over the years. Not only did the sudden protests surprise us, they were quite demotivating for the engineers and scientists. All the issues and concerned raised by the villagers have been addressed and fears have been allayed even by the expert panel appointed by the central government.

NPC is expected to incur a revenue loss of Rs 1,300 crore on account of a generation loss of 4,800 million units from Kudankulam by the end of the current fiscal. This is due to the delay in starting generation from the first phase, which was originally scheduled for mid-November, and from the second phase (scheduled for March) owing to the agitation by villagers who are demanding that the project be scrapped.

The company will also have to bear a monthly interest payment of Rs 15 crore on a loan of Rs 6,500 crore from the Russian government and a loss of Rs 120 crore per month. So far an investment of Rs 13,171 crore has been made in the project. And additional investment of about Rs 1,500 crore will be required to complete it. Nearly 6,000 contract workers will have to be remobilised.

In the design of the Kudankulam reactor, many advanced safety features have been deployed to tackle a Fukushima type of disaster. These include a passive heat removal system that ensures the fuel is cooled even if power and cooling water are not available, as was the case in Fukushima. Also, 154 passive recombiners have been installed to avoid the formation of the explosive mixtures inside the containment.

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Prithwiraj wrote:http://www.ntiindex.org/countries/india/

Browse overall country scores or explore the data by category and indicator on the map below. Switch between the two tabs to see the results for countries with weapons-usable nuclear materials and countries without. The "=" denotes a tie between or among countries.

India ranked 28

Alleging that Collector R. Selvaraj was indirectly helping the anti- Kudankualm Nuclear Power Project (KKNPP) protestors, a group of supporters of the upcoming nuclear power project submitted a petition at the Office of the District Collector on Thursday.

In the petition, the KKNPP supporters led by T .K. Sathia Seelan, said the Collector was threatening the KKNPP officials based on a petition submitted by the protestors containing allegations against the Central Government officials.

Moreover, the Village Administrative Officer and a Revenue Inspector were checking the vehicles and even the identity cards of the senior KKNPP officials with the motive of hurting them.

“Hence we suspect that the district administration has joined hands with the anti-nuke groups,” the supporters of KKNPP project alleged.

Jaitapur may face a threat of a high intensity earthquake as it lies close to the latitude on which Latur and Koyna in Maharashtra lie, American seismologist Roger Bilham said at a press conference organised by Greenpeace here on Thursday. Latur and Koyna have faced strong earthquakes earlier.

gakakkad wrote:Can anyone recommend me a decent basic book on geology and earthquakes ? Something for easy reading , yet fairly in depth .