Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201
Posted: 21 Dec 2011 21:07
aaaah here it is, part 2
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So how do you think that US will restrain the TSP? They might give them a target list!
The Pakistani government had told Washington that it had intelligence—whose reliability was suspect, as was all Indian and Pakistani intelligence in moments of crisis—indicating that India was prepared to send its army across the border. “We were holding a session in the National Security Council conference room in the White House basement,” the analyst said. “And one of our guys”—a senior military man who had served as defense attaché with the United States Embassy in New Delhi—“said we ought to focus on getting the Paks to hit Tarapur, not Delhi.” A large reactor at Tarapur, north of Bombay, was known to be one of India’s main sites for the chemical extraction of weapons-grade plutonium. “In other words, he wanted to do a tit for tat: Kahuta for Tarapur. It was the old limited-war issue: If they do a strike, what could we do to get them to neutralize each other?”
Ramana guru Ji: I would not be too sure that they have not already given them that target list.ramana wrote:Singha, In the infamous 1992 New Yorker article by Seymour Hersh about the 1990 Indo-Pak nuke crisis, its related that one US military official was suggesting that instead of New Delhi, Mumbai BARC(two for one) would be suitable target for the Paki nukes.
So how do you think that US will restrain the TSP? They might give them a target list!
Amen to that.Altair wrote:Thanks. I only hope my effort is replicated by many BR folks here. Emailing both current and Ex Diplomats, Ambassadors of Western countries in Asia,especially those in south and central asia helps a lot. Trust me you develop a kind of connection with these people and when they reply it brings a smile to you. It gives me great satisfaction.
But effort needs to be multiplied many times. This is no job for a lone wolf. It does not work that way.I urge everyone to contribute and touchbase with these people.
Wikipedia,Google chacha helps a lot in research.
This is as good as it gets!! We are finally seeing solutions from the west that are acceptable to us. Solutions dont work for us are give more money to PA, engage with them etc. So do the needful and put the weight of John/joe behind the above article.
They're working hard in Pakistan to ensure the Muslim world doesn't slip from being responsible 91 percent of honor killings worldwide.As this report notes, there is no law against domestic violence. Such legislation stalled out in the assembly in 2009 with resistance on Islamic grounds. It would run the risk of prohibiting something Allah made lawful: hitting (yes, hitting) "disobedient" women (Qur'an 4:34).
Islamic law is also inconsistent at best on whether parents face any penalty for killing their children. The relatives carrying out the killings clearly feel they are justified in what they are doing, and are confident they will not only avoid severe penalties, but earn respect for their brutality.Behavior that is rewarded tends to be repeated. "675 Pakistan 'honour killing' victims: commission," from Agence France-Presse, December 20:
At least 675 Pakistani women and girls were murdered during the first nine months of the year for allegedly defaming their family's honour, a leading human rights group said Tuesday.
"A total of 675 women and girls were killed in the name of honour across Pakistan from January to September," a senior official in the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan told AFP.
They included at least 71 victims under the age of 18.The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is unauthorised to speak to the media, said figures were still being compiled from October to December, and that a full report would be released in February.The Commission reported 791 honour killings in 2010 and there was no discernible decrease this year, the official added.Around 450 of the women killed from January to September were accused of having "illicit relations" and 129 of marrying without permission.
The train escape that could have been — II —Mehboob QadirShortly, the entire barrack — about 30 of us — were marched out to death row cells in a different compound and sentenced to solitary confinement for three months. This was a unique experience: ugly, terribly oppressive, and extremely taxing. The incubators were a regulation eight feet long, about as much high and four feet wide. The door was a block of heavy iron plate with a small sliding window, both bolted from outside. A hole with metal grill near the ceiling was, I guess, a ventilator. A water pitcher and an open native bed pan at the end of the cemented bed served as a toilet. Summers were at their peak in Agra, temperatures raging anything up to 110 to120 degrees Fahrenheit.
Sizzling heat, incessant sweating and huge swarms of mosquitoes soon turned us into walking dummies full of all kinds of sores, bites and scars. I had never seen prickly heat the size of a pea before. Our responses to smell, pain, hunger and sleep withered away beyond a certain point some weeks into the confinement. We were let out for 10 minutes each in the morning and evening to go to the community toilets where all pretensions of privacy got effectively dismantled.
In those dreadful dungeons, the only ray of kindness was a Hindu Duty Havaldar who would throw in a toffee, a candy or some such thing through the window and mutter softly a few words of sympathy and solace. May that noble man’s goodness be rewarded and his bliss increased manifold.
Major Naseebullah intervened and insisted to go first. After an unusual haggling the guard agreed. As Major Naseeb turned right in the far end of the passage towards the toilet, we heard a distinct weapon cocking sound followed by Major Naseeb shouting: “What are you doing?” ....{no spoilers!}
We refused to be handcuffed and shackled before departure to the railway station. Finally, we agreed to be handcuffed two together and that could be hidden easily while walking out of trucks to the railway compartment.
Echandee is also part of OLQs which are taught for maintaining morale in a hierarchical organization like paki army, less so in Indian army but stillRaja Bose wrote:What would a Paki be without echandee...![]()
From the above article:
We refused to be handcuffed and shackled before departure to the railway station. Finally, we agreed to be handcuffed two together and that could be hidden easily while walking out of trucks to the railway compartment.
ISLAMABAD: Chief of Army Staff has told the SC that evidence available regarding memo-gate contacts. In the affidavit submitted to the Supreme Court, COAS Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani has said that the news regarding the memo-gate are correct and evidence is available of the contacts made in the context of the conspiracy.The COAS also wrote that the memo issue has dented national security and lowered the morale of the armed forces.The SC had asked the President, the PM, the COAS and the ISI DG to submit their affidavits for the hearing of the memo case. All have submitted their replies, but President Zardari has not.In the last hearing, the Chief Justice has told the Attorney General that no reply in a civil case means acceptance of guilt. The court had issued a written order, calling for a reply of the President, but the reply has not been filed.Meanwhile, PML-N chief Mian Nawaz Sharif, Ishaq Dar and Ghaus Ali Shah also submitted their second replies in the Apex Court.Talking to reporters, Attorney General Maulvi Anwar ul Haq said that General Kayani’s second reply has been submitted to the Apex Court.The AG said that COAS stood firm by his old stance in the second reply. In the affidavit submitted to the court, Gen Kayani said that all his earlier statements were based on facts and nothing had been kept hidden from the Supreme Court.
Pehle Paisa phil Sauvirginity ,Unkil, dete janna anna doaanaSSridhar wrote:Of course, the US must pay more baksheesh.
Embassy of Balochistan ? Here, in India ? GoI is going the whole distance (not even half) to develop everlasting friendship with our prodigal younger brother, and you are suggesting this ? Haven't we already conceded our complicity at Sharm-el-Sheikh ?Altair wrote:What would it take to start a Mock "Embassy of Baluchistan in India".
This Paki a$$hole should have realized that the IA behaved professionally and were reasonably compassionate in their treatment of POWs. If these guys would have been POWs with the US Army, there would be no negotiations of not handcuffing them to protect their H&D. They would have had their hands cuffed behind their back, with little possibility of scratching their nose, let alone filing off their cuffs/ bars. Any attempts at escape would have immediately resulted in the fate of Naseebullah.MurthyB wrote:Good first person account of a POW in 1971 in India.
The train escape that could have been — I —Mehboob Qadir
The train escape that could have been — II —Mehboob Qadir
Logically speaking, It would then make it easier for us to start such an embassy. isn't it? we already admitted to it,So what difference would it make?SSridhar wrote:Embassy of Balochistan ? Here, in India ? GoI is going the whole distance (not even half) to develop everlasting friendship with our prodigal younger brother, and you are suggesting this ? Haven't we already conceded our complicity at Sharm-el-Sheikh ?Altair wrote:What would it take to start a Mock "Embassy of Baluchistan in India".
That SeS admission was a Chankian trick to make Pakistan talk to us. Now that the peace process has started in full flow, how can we offend and upset our brotherly terrorist nation ?Altair wrote:Logically speaking, It would then make it easier for us to start such an embassy. isn't it? we already admitted to it,So what difference would it make?SSridhar wrote: Haven't we already conceded our complicity at Sharm-el-Sheikh ?
The PMO is filled with pussies.
SSridhar wrote: That SeS admission was a Chankian trick to make Pakistan talk to us. Now that the peace process has started in full flow, how can we offend and upset our brotherly terrorist nation ?
Am I the only oldie who said, "hey, it is just a mark of quality". A mark of approval from the Indian Standards Institute.abhishek_sharma wrote:The real shame in Pakistan
Bruce Riedel, a former CIA and White House official who chaired President Barack Obama's 2009 review of U.S. policy on the region, said Sharif himself initiated a similar petition over a decade ago.
He recalled a 1999 meeting with Sharif's brother Shahbaz, who he said traveled to Washington to warn of what civilian officials at the time feared was a brewing military coup.
"It was an entire day spent at the Willard Hotel listening to Shahbaz talk about their fears that a military coup was coming and asking for American help to prevent it," he said.
"That's pretty much the charge (that) is being leveled against Ambassador Haqqani."
A coup did ultimately happen, in 1999, bringing General Pervez Musharraf to power until he resigned as president in August 2008.
There is an interesting, and depressing, development In the continuing Pakistani"Memogate" controversy -- the one in which the now-former ambassador to the U.S., Husain Haqqani, is accused by Pakistan's ruling military elite of trying, with Pakistan's civilian-elected President, Asif Ali Zardari to foment democratic reform in his country. Haqqani, back in Pakistan and under continual investigation, is now being accused of helping the U.S. locate Osama Bin Laden. Yes, "accused."
There are two ways for the Pakistani military to grapple with the fact that Bin Laden was hiding out in Pakistan: They could apologize to the U.S. for, advertently or not, hiding the greatest mass murderer in American history, and they could conduct a serious internal investigation to discover how it came to pass that Bin Laden found refuge in their country. Or, alternatively, they could throw a fit about the "violation" of their border by American soldiers hunting the aforementioned greatest mass murderer in American history, and investigate not how Bin Laden got into Pakistan, but how CIA operative gained access to Pakistan.
The Pakistanis have obviously chosen the latter course, to their shame.![]()
LAHORE– Provincial Law Minister Rana Sanaullah has alleged that hired people attended Imran Khan’s rally in Kasur who took away 25000 chairs at the conclusion of the meeting exposing the myth of tsunami of the PTI chief. FIR has been registered for the theft of the chairs and Imran Khan may also be called for investigation, Rana Sanaullah said while talking to media men outside the Punjab Assembly chamber here Wednesday.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/12/22/no-contr ... -govt.htmlAnujan wrote:Paki government filed a brief in front of the Supreme Court that it does not control the Army or the ISI![]()
Few thousands of those illegitimate bangali poakbasturds later joined HUJi, Few thousands joined the BNP and few of them are left to roam around on paki deaf and dumb fora.anupmisra wrote:Fall of Dhaka and a fall guyHain, ji?Who was responsible for rape, murder and mayhem in that area? Who left thousands of illegitimate children behind?
C'mon now, they are victims of Paki barbarism so the opposite being true is more probable.Narad wrote: Few thousands of those illegitimate bangali poakbasturds later joined HUJi, Few thousands joined the BNP and few of them are left to roam around on paki deaf and dumb fora.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16302197The US military has admitted it bears significant responsibility for last month's air strike on the Afghan border that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.
A statement said US and Afghan forces acted in self defence, but conceded there had been a lack of proper co-ordination with Pakistani forces.
BBC correspondents say the admission is expected to embarrass the US military.
Now that US admitted its mistake, please TFTA's declare an official war on US. some wishes will never turn truehulaku wrote:US admits mistakes over killings of Pakistan troops
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16302197The US military has admitted it bears significant responsibility for last month's air strike on the Afghan border that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.
A statement said US and Afghan forces acted in self defence, but conceded there had been a lack of proper co-ordination with Pakistani forces.
BBC correspondents say the admission is expected to embarrass the US military.
May be this Joshua Pollack is an expert is some other types of Mizziles(hint: L&M, ahem ahem class) and their detonation and has now been classified as an arms expert.In a commentary in the adults magazine Playboy![]()
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, Joshua Pollack, a US policy wonk who has done work on nuclear proliferation, says India may have been the secret, unnamed "fourth country" -- after Iran, Libya and North Korea -- to which AQ Khan "provided the shortcut to a nuclear weapon."
This moron has as much brains as a rat. OBL may be a mass murderer for Americans, but TSPians do not consider him one. Any 2-bit journalist worth all the mooalh paid to him would know that in a half a day if he/she were to read and reflect about TSP. TSP kept OBL as a bargaining chip, the big fish as they say, to extract lotsa goodies from US, and planned to sacrifice him when the rate of return would have been at its zenith, probably a US election year October surprise or something like that.Satya_anveshi wrote:Pakistan's Rulers Have Very Perverse Priorities {certain tube light from the Atlantic just woke up.... chalo.Der aye durust aye..
Who is Joshua Pollack?Aditya_V wrote: May be this Joshua Pollack is an expert is some other types of Mizziles(hint: L&M, ahem ahem class) and their detonation and has now been classified as an arms expert.
The sooperpower skis downhill to save Paki echandeehulaku wrote:US admits mistakes over killings of Pakistan troops
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16302197The US military has admitted it bears significant responsibility for last month's air strike on the Afghan border that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.
A statement said US and Afghan forces acted in self defence, but conceded there had been a lack of proper co-ordination with Pakistani forces.
BBC correspondents say the admission is expected to embarrass the US military.