The 2012 Olympics Thread

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 05 Aug 2012 19:11

The powers, including the DDM, have conspired to give her an angrezi name but her name is "Mery".
http://www.london2012.com/athlete/hmang ... m-1074112/

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 05 Aug 2012 19:18

Mery's Quarterfinal is Tomorrow same time.

Tommorrow will be a big Day

We have Vijender, Mery, Narang, Rajput, Gowda

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Aug 2012 19:28

Meanwhile. India slumping to another defeat against Korea in hockey.

Am actually hoping that we dont even qualify for the next Oly since the difference in standards between us and the rest is just too painful to see and heartbreaking to watch the Indians being played like a instrument by all teams

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 05 Aug 2012 19:48

Victor wrote:The powers, including the DDM, have conspired to give her an angrezi name but she is an SLRE Hindu and her name is "Mery".
http://www.london2012.com/athlete/hmang ... m-1074112/

*facepalm* Mery it is!

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Aug 2012 19:53

^^ The DD commentator was saying that she is also called as "Christian mom Mary"

So it was Mery all along?

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 05 Aug 2012 19:55

So far I see Mery spelling only london 2012 website. Rest are DDM links and wikipedia which call her Mary.
EDIT: AIBA calls her Mery. So Mery I guess?

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 05 Aug 2012 19:57

Yes, it is Mery. But I stand corrected--the Kom tribe are mainly Christian although the majority of Manipuris are Hindu.

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Aug 2012 20:01

^^ Despite all that is said about falling power of bartania, have to say that they are still a sporting superpower since they have snapped up a amazing 15 gold ( 30 odd total) and are behind China and US ( who are of course untouchable)

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 05 Aug 2012 20:02

Mary or Mery is Christian.....I watched a Documentary on her and she is indeed Christian

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 05 Aug 2012 20:02

home turf does add a huge advantage

lets see where they are in the next one

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Aug 2012 20:04

16 now since Murray absolutely thrashed Federer!!

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Aug 2012 20:06

Surya wrote:home turf does add a huge advantage

lets see where they are in the next one

Actually they had won more in Beijing!!

19 13 15 47

So, they do seem to have some grip on the stuff still!

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 05 Aug 2012 20:11

sum wrote: Despite all that is said about falling power of bartania, have to say that they are still a sporting superpower since they have snapped up a amazing 15 gold ( 30 odd total) and are behind China and US ( who are of course untouchable)

To be fair, so is the FSU (the original sports machine) as those countries have jointly got about 13 golds between them, just behind UK.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 05 Aug 2012 20:12

^^ Well they participate in lot of "exclusive" events which only a handful of countries participate...

Strange sports like Equestrian, Trampoline, Beach Volleyball, Handball are all in Olympics..Doubt if these are played in 75+ countries....Add to the list Cycling

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Aug 2012 20:17

^^ That might be true but if we look at their breakup of medals( gold), only 4 are from cycling and rest from "normal sports"...they seem to have cornered rowing with 4G + multiple S+B

By contrast, S.Korea seems to have concentrated on 4-5 sports( Archery, Judo, Fencing, Swimming, Shooting) and reaped 20 medals out of them

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 05 Aug 2012 20:21

kshatriya wrote:Mary or Mery is Christian.....I watched a Documentary on her and she is indeed Christian

Mery might just be a local spelling/pronounciation version of Mary.
Like "Gelf" in Kerala for Gulf.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 05 Aug 2012 20:22

Wow, we got r@ped 1-4 by South Korea in Hockey.

Hopeless. Disband the team and start from scratch.

member_23367 · Post by **member_23367** » 05 Aug 2012 20:22

Federer must have charged serious dollaaahhh to throw away this match to Murray,me thinks.The whole Olympics is such a sham.Its funny that developing countries get sucked in it.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 05 Aug 2012 20:23

Mery's win is truly historic as it is the first day of women's Olympics boxing.

It's a good thing we are broad contenders in the martial sports like boxing, archery and shooting. Really hope we can add fencing.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 05 Aug 2012 20:45

Why don't we do fencing ? Its been there in India since time immemorial ....Just look at old Indian Movies ...MGR was supposedly a champ in Fencing...

sum wrote:^^ ...they seem to have cornered rowing with 4G + multiple S+B

Even Rowing is an very exclusive sport. The Equipment costs a fortune

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 05 Aug 2012 20:50

the fencing they do is quite different from our style and the equipment may be expensive. would require dedicated effort to get to olympic level in their style but it didn't appear to me to be extremely difficult. the Brits have a history in rowing.

For Mary the only concern is she looked tired in the 3rd and 4th. remember she is 38-39 yrs old.

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Aug 2012 20:58

Even Rowing is an very exclusive sport. The Equipment costs a fortune

Could be but so is shooting but we dont give reasons about cost for shooting.

Yesterday, Col.Rathore was mentioning on TV that the foreign coaches usually cost 40,000/day whereas SAI offers 40,000/month. Also, the equipment costs are pretty extreme. He was saying that Korea had a system where different industrial giants were identified and each was given one sport which they would be in charge of since no way is funding these modern sports possible by govt only.

So, i somehow am finding the cost excuse tough to agree to. We should identify 2-3 easy medal sports irrespective of cost and pump effort/money into it like we did into shooting after the 2004 olympics.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 05 Aug 2012 21:03

Supratik wrote:
For Mary the only concern is she looked tired in the 3rd and 4th. remember she is 38-39 yrs old.

Mary is 29 years old... Its very draining although its only 8 minutes... The pole looked much more tired than Mary

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 05 Aug 2012 21:15

We keep blaming the Government, but in most democratic countries, the Olympic organizations are funded by private donations. India's Olympic efforts should be funded by donations from private individuals and corporate sponsors. Money may cease to be a problem then.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 05 Aug 2012 21:17

Aussie wimmens water polo team getting a lesson in humility from Chinese

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Aug 2012 21:21

^^ Reading various articles on Devendro Singh and his bouts so far, am really feeling a strange fear and uneasy feeling thinking about how horrifying if such a amazing guy will be forced to exit due to superb refreeing again( esp given the opponent is a local).

When is his bout tomorrow? Want to avoid watching it live since might just smash the TV in case Olympic 2012 standard judging takes place again.

Meanwhile, Bartania paper says about the Manoj bout:

Stalker looked strong and sharp as he established a seven-point lead at the end of the second round and despite a better finish from Kumar, the result did not appear to be in any doubt.

Stalker started at a good pace against Kumar, whom he had beaten in the quarter-finals of last year's World Championships, countering his opponent's cruder advances with pinpoint left hands.

If the second round score seemed slanted a little in his favour, there seemed little doubt over his dominance of the fight, although Stalker did accept he will have to improve if he is to realise his dream of Olympic gold.

Seems at odds with every other report i read so far

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 05 Aug 2012 21:30

So what medals do we have a shot at? As of now we have almost met our 2008 levels. We have an extra silver, but are short a Gold. Total is the same at 3.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 05 Aug 2012 21:31

Olympic Spirit. (Died: London 2012)
http://www.facebook.com/notes/melkor-ma ... 6146370325

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Aug 2012 21:32

^^ Would say max 1 in boxing ( colour undecided), maybe 1 in wrestling....thats about it, IMO

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 05 Aug 2012 21:34

His Bout is on Aug 8th and his opponent is Irish... Its bizarre that our Buffons did not challenge Manoj's fight. Will make it easier to fudge our wins

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 05 Aug 2012 21:35

i would say mary kom has a good chance if she can get her energy back tomorrow. the other two boxers can also medal provided they are at their best. shooting - this is not narang's best event and rajput i am not sure about. so may be 1 more may be 3 if we are very lucky. gold is not in sight unless there are dramatic outcomes.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 05 Aug 2012 21:40

kshatriya wrote:
Mary is 29 years old... Its very draining although its only 8 minutes... The pole looked much more tired than Mary

Yeah, 29, got it wrong yob is 1983 but she looked tired in the last two and that might affect closer fights with better opponents

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 05 Aug 2012 21:50

she looked really tired, I was afraid she was going to get knocked out when she tripped once !

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 05 Aug 2012 21:56

China is seriously hunting down every game that was dominated by Goras... Won't be surprised if there are going to be no olympics after a decade

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 05 Aug 2012 21:57

Amazing to see Andy Murray selflessly agree to play Mixed doubles - that too with a completely unknown 18 y.o. just an hour after he won the singles. Many other top ranked players have done the same.
Can't help feeling that if our team had put their egos aside (having for e.g. a Paes/Bopanna and Bhupati/Sania combination), we might have won an additional bronze. Irrespective of the fact that our Tennis federation handled the whole episode badly, it is an act of gross indiscipline to not agree to play with your designated partner (and wash dirty linen in public).
Along with hockey and the women's archery team, I believe our tennis performance has been the biggest let down.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 05 Aug 2012 21:59

women's archery team might have done better had the experienced dola banerjee been able to play.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 05 Aug 2012 22:04

Yes, 50m 3 positions air rifle event is not Narang's strongest event, but it is Sanjeev Rajput's main event. After Vijay Kumar's event, I decided the shooting events are worth giving all our known shooters a chance with. I honestly did not expect Vijay to medal. I did not even expect him to be a finalist. That was because his standard performance in the past was barely upto AG level, never mind Olympics. It hasn't gotten enough press just how much beyond his known competitive level he shot. Check out his old CWG/AG scores. He usually hits 565-575. He shot 585 at the Olympics, among the several who broke the 583 Olympic Record as well, and then did what he did in the final. So you never know.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 05 Aug 2012 22:17

Archery womens team apparently came down with mild fever due to "change in weather" when competition began. Knowing the fickle englandistan weather and that mental prep is critical for archery, we should have acclimatized them in some colder, wetter place in India and eliminated "change in weather" as a variable.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 05 Aug 2012 22:33

KJoishy wrote:So what medals do we have a shot at? As of now we have almost met our 2008 levels. We have an extra silver, but are short a Gold. Total is the same at 3.

2 in boxing; 1 in wrestling.

Mostly Bronze.. i don't see Indians getting past Brits/Irish in this Olympics in boxing

gunjur · Post by **gunjur** » 05 Aug 2012 22:34

Saudi judoist’s father to act against insults

he father of the first ever Saudi woman to compete at the Olympic Games has vowed to sue those who insulted his daughter for challenging traditions that prevented women from participating.
he father of Wojdan Shaherkani, who stole the limelight at the London Olympics despite lasting only 82 seconds on the mat before being defeated, told Al-Sharq daily that he wrote to the interior minister with copies of insults made on the Twitter microblogging website.

The 16-year-old judoist(Maybe she is cousin of shahid afridi) eventually took part wearing a swimming cap to cover her hair. It was an honor for my daughter to participate in this competition and to have represented Saudi Arabia,” said Shaherkani’s father, adding that she will start training for the 2016 Olympics.(One should not be surprised by that time she maybe married and having a kid)

Apart from Shaherkani, US-raised 800m runner Sarah Attar is representing Saudi Arabia in London.(So saudis have sent 2 wimmin to londonistan)