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Bera is a member of the American Sikh Congressional Caucus, founded last year by California Reps. Judy Chu and David Valadao. The congressional caucus has largely focused on domestic issues affecting Sikh Americans.
On Oct. 11, Dhillon will be leading a precinct walk through Sacramento on behalf of Ose; she expressed her hope that members of the Sikh community would join her on the walk to express their disapproval of Bera on his noncommittal stance on the 1984 riots.
After a flood of media erupted this month on the issue, Amar Shergill, co-founder of the American Sikh PAC, told India-West in an e-mail: “Since Congressman Bera is a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, it is not unreasonable to ask him to take a moral stand against the genocide of Sikhs by the Indian government in 1984.”
I would recommend that India stay out of this. There are certain countries involved which are experts in spoofing communications, running disinformation campaigns, etc. I imagine that one of those countries could deceive India into bombing the wrong target, and then a PR nightmare would ensue. Besides, Russia sees Syria as its turf and is already deeply involved there.ramana wrote:Philip First time India is getting a chance to carry the fight into Araby. After Qasim's razza in Sind here is a chance to settle account. Fighting ISIS India can support Iran and Syria.
What the hell does ISIS have to do with us? Plijj explain saar. Let them piss. They are going to be getting 10X more in the form of virulent pure islam. The ME will fear us when we get our act together and industrialize and develop.Singha wrote:Medical aid and education supplements but does not build fear and awe.
We need to send a squadron of su30 and give the Isis a taste of our bombs.
Nobody has any fear of India in mid east. That needs to change.
Right now any dog can piss against our car tyres and we retaliate with a shower of meds and books.
Sure some collateral could ensue but well behind king khan who has already killed some lakhs there directly or indirectly.
RoyG wrote:What the hell does ISIS have to do with us? Plijj explain saar. Let them piss. They are going to be getting 10X more in the form of virulent pure islam. The ME will fear us when we get our act together and industrialize and develop.Singha wrote:Medical aid and education supplements but does not build fear and awe.
We need to send a squadron of su30 and give the Isis a taste of our bombs.
Nobody has any fear of India in mid east. That needs to change.
Right now any dog can piss against our car tyres and we retaliate with a shower of meds and books.
Sure some collateral could ensue but well behind king khan who has already killed some lakhs there directly or indirectly.
Our people are very vulnerable in the gelf states and other malsi countries where they have gone to work. We cannot afford the blowback and will not be able to handle it.Hari Seldon wrote:^+1.
The last time US asked for Indian troops, they were to be under US command, which ultimately caused the idea to vaporize.
I see nothing different this time. We'll have troops but under Indian command in the Gulf, if at all. Sure, support services, comm, ordnance, supplies, logistics etc we can co-ordinate with others on. Perhaps.
An yes, the IPKF experience shows such things don't always end well for India. But hey, no risk, no gain, no?
We don't need their goodwill. They hate us anyway for obvious reasons. why should we care about their medical condition or any other condition. Stay home, guard your borders and get down to nation building and securing prosperity.Avarachan wrote:I would recommend that India stay out of this. There are certain countries involved which are experts in spoofing communications, running disinformation campaigns, etc. I imagine that one of those countries could deceive India into bombing the wrong target, and then a PR nightmare would ensue. Besides, Russia sees Syria as its turf.ramana wrote:Philip First time India is getting a chance to carry the fight into Araby. After Qasim's razza in Sind here is a chance to settle account. Fighting ISIS India can support Iran and Syria.
If India wants to get involved, it could do so later, on a humanitarian basis. That could earn India a lot of goodwill in both Iraq and Syria.
+1008.chetak wrote:We don't need their goodwill. They hate us anyway for obvious reasons. why should we care about their medical condition or any other condition. Stay home, guard your borders and get down to nation building and securing prosperity.
The game is up. Not much they can do now. Once we have a matured dharmic academic architecture we will be able to graduate 1000+ Modi's a year in different fields including the social sciences.chetak wrote:Any reactions from the discredited UPenn lot who were instrumnetal in getting the NaMo invitation withdrawn??
A Loomba, T Ghose and S Kaul et al??
Surya - its an honest one an not a pseudosecular politically correct one. The stock impression of India has been portrayed as well as the reaction on the faces of the fatsos inside.Surya wrote:That is a racist cartoon - obnoxious to say the least -
Actually, a lot of Iraqis and Syrians don't hate India. Both countries, curiously enough, retain memories of their pre-Islamic civilizations. In my opinion, India should encourage that tendency. It's very useful. But I do agree with you that the priority for India should be on developing India.chetak wrote:We don't need their goodwill. They hate us anyway for obvious reasons. why should we care about their medical condition or any other condition. Stay home, guard your borders and get down to nation building and securing prosperity.Avarachan wrote: If India wants to get involved, it could do so later, on a humanitarian basis. That could earn India a lot of goodwill in both Iraq and Syria.
Racist it is not. In bad taste and perpetuating negative and condescending stereotype? Heck, yes. No that I care. I bet none of these people know how to operate a bullock cart even if their life depended on it which might very well if they do not get off of their dependence on the fodder their A/C heated leather horseless carriages quaff a few million barrels a day and belch out greehouse gases to stink up whole continents.sanjaykumar wrote:That's hardly a racist cartoon. Kinda funny and pithy.
Yes, it's honestly obnoxious. It seems as India rises, the odiousness, racism, condescension and hatred which was well masked by a "gentlemanly" veneer, is crumbling. The more we rise, the faster the more belligerent and slanderous this class will become.shiv wrote:Surya - its an honest one an not a pseudosecular politically correct one. The stock impression of India has been portrayed as well as the reaction on the faces of the fatsos inside.Surya wrote:That is a racist cartoon - obnoxious to say the least -
It's a big fall from sitting in the studio and remote controlling people to doing the street beat.chetak wrote: turdesai and his worse half seem to be finding it tough to get a new jobs suitable to their imagined exalted station in life and have only landed some rather mediocre sinecures in some dopy channel.
I think American expats in Saudi stay in Aramco city, it's a fenced-out gated community, you may have seen how the Indian expats live, in the most dubious circumstances.Singha wrote:Medical aid and education supplements but does not build fear and awe.
We need to send a squadron of su30 and give the Isis a taste of our bombs.
Nobody has any fear of India in mid east. That needs to change.
Right now any dog can piss against our car tyres and we retaliate with a shower of meds and books.
Sure some collateral could ensue but well behind king khan who has already killed some lakhs there directly or indirectly.
Like I said earlier - these impressions of India and Indians are not "in the past" they are still alive and just below the surface. We need cartoonists who can portray things in perceptive ways. I liked the way this cartoonist has shown fat guys in suits. the "fat" is important. The US for example can be portrayed as a nation of fat people. This appearance has developed in the last 30 years even as I watched.Kashi wrote: Yes, it's honestly obnoxious. It seems as India rises, the odiousness, racism, condescension and hatred which was well masked by a "gentlemanly" veneer, is crumbling. The more we rise, the faster the more belligerent and slanderous this class will become.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
Sounds cliche, but appears to fit here to the T.
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Sirjee,Avarachan wrote:Actually, a lot of Iraqis and Syrians don't hate India. Both countries, curiously enough, retain memories of their pre-Islamic civilizations. In my opinion, India should encourage that tendency. It's very useful. But I do agree with you that the priority for India should be on developing India.chetak wrote:{quote="Avarachan"}
If India wants to get involved, it could do so later, on a humanitarian basis. That could earn India a lot of goodwill in both Iraq and Syria.{/quote}
We don't need their goodwill. They hate us anyway for obvious reasons. why should we care about their medical condition or any other condition. Stay home, guard your borders and get down to nation building and securing prosperity.
A top Pentagon official said on Tuesday he had "high expectations" for a joint U.S.-Indian effort to deepen defense ties, but it could take a while to reach agreement on specific weapons to develop or produce together.
"Prime Minister Modi is very aware of the initiative. His staff is clearly motivated at every level to make it a success and move forward," Frank Kendall, the Pentagon's chief weapons buyer, told Reuters after a meeting with Indian Prime Minister Narenda Modi and U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel.
"I don't think people should expect instantaneous major announcements. It's going take a little ... while to work out exactly what we’re going to do and how we’re going to do it."
Kendall is the top U.S. official working on the joint Defense Trade and Technology Initiative with India that has identified 17 specific defense projects.
He said India and the United States were still discussing one of those ideas: a joint program for significant upgrades to the Javelin "fire and forget" anti-tank missile built by Lockheed Martin Corp(LMT.N) and Raytheon Co(RTN.N).
He said Washington was also open to a broader agreement on missile development with India, which could benefit both sides at a time when U.S. military spending is declining.
"If we pool our resources, we may be able to do more than the U.S. currently has planned," he said.
India's defense ministry is drafting a framework agreement after what he called a "very constructive" meeting with his counterpart in Washington several days ago, and the two sides agreed to alternate visits every six months.
In addition to several more traditional direct arms sales suggested by the defense industry, Kendall had asked the U.S. military services to put together a list of new smaller-scale weapons programs that India could join from the start.
Kendall gave no details, but said several U.S. Army programs might be good candidates and he planned to take the list of possibilities to India when he travels there in November.
India's military needed to assess its requirements and funding before any specific agreements could be reached.
"There are plenty of grounds for us to get together," he said. "What we do have to find are products that we both want, that we’re going to commit some resources to."
NEW DELHI: India will not join the US-led military campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq, a Ministry of External Affairs official said today in answer to a question after Prime Minister Narendra Modi and US President Barack Obama held talks in Washington today.
As Prime Minister Narendra Modi received a "rock-star" welcome in the US, China's state-run media today downplayed the visit saying India was not "sufficiently strong" and will not be a major player in America's strategy of containing the communist nation through "rebalancing of the Asia-Pacific".
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