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9-member Indian delegation reaches Lahore for two-day water talks with Pakistan
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Aug 28, 2018
A nine-member Indian delegation arrived in Lahore on Tuesday for two-day Pakistan-India Perma­nent Indus Commission talks scheduled for August 29-30.
Led by Indian Water Commissioner P. K Saxena, the delegation reached the provincial capital through Wagah border for the talks starting tomorrow.
Pakistan Water Commissioner Syed Mehr Ali Shah, who welcomed the Indian delegation at the border, will lead his side during the discussions that will take place at the Lahore headquarters of the National Engineering Services of Pakistan (Nespak). During the two-day talks, Pakistan will reiterate its serious objections :roll: over two controversial water storage and hydropower projects being built by India, Dawn reported on Monday.
A government official said Pakistan will raise its concerns over the construction of 1000MW Pakal Dul and 48MW Lower Kalnai hydroelectric projects on River Chenab despite Islamabad’s serious objections over their designs. Pakistan has been raising reservations over the designs of the two projects and would like India to either modify the designs to make them compliant to the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty or put the projects on hold until Delhi satisfies Islamabad.
If the projects are within the provisions of The Treaty, Pakistan can do nothing about it !
The two sides will also finalise the schedule of future meetings of the Permanent Indus Commission and visits of the teams of the Indus commissioners. The water commissioners of Pakistan and India are required to meet twice a year and arrange technical visits to projects’ sites and critical river head works, but Pakistan has been facing a lot of problems in timely meetings and visits, the official told Dawn. The two-day session is also expected to discuss ways and means for timely and smooth sharing of hydrological data on shared rivers.
A former water sector official said it was typical Indian style to build projects in violation of the 1960 treaty as was evident from all previous controversial projects like Baglihar and Kishanganga. During execution of these projects, New Delhi engaged Islamabad in technicalities, but kept civil and side works moving for years until reaching the fait accompli stage, when challenged at international forums. :roll:
Under the provisions of the Indus Waters Treaty 1960, waters of the eastern rivers — Sutlej, Beas and Ravi — had been allocated to India and the western rivers — the Indus, Jhelum and Chenab — to Pakistan, except for certain non-consumptive uses for India. :((
Nothing about "India stealing Paki water " BS in the above writeup !
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FM Qureshi Opts For "Soft Approach" During Pompeo's Visit :)

'Will try to steer Pak-US ties towards betterment during Pompeo's visit,' says FM Qureshi
Aug 28, 2018
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Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi on Tuesday reiterated that a US handout on a phone call between Prime Minister Imran Khan and US Secretary of State Michael Pompeo las week which mentioned terrorists operating in Pakistan was “contrary to the reality”.
"The telephone conversation... much to the surprise of many, was very cordial, very engaging and very constructive in nature," Qureshi asserted while speaking in the Senate.
Pompeo had phoned Prime Minister Khan to greet him on the assumption of office. The controversy started with the readout of the conversation issued by the State Department, which stated: “Secretary Pompeo raised the importance of Pakistan taking decisive action against all terrorists operating in Pakistan and its vital role in promoting the Afghan peace process.”
But Qureshi repeated his stance today that the claim above did not surface during the conversation at all. He said he was aware that the US had stood by its original press release, but that he maintains that the same was not true as "mistakes happen".
US secretary of state Pompeo is expected to visit Islamabad in the first week of September for consultations with PM Khan and his team on issues of mutual interests. He will likely be the first foreign dignitary to meet the newly elected prime minister.During his talks with Pakistani officials, Secretary Pompeo is expected to focus on two major issues: efforts to revive once close ties between the two states and Pakistan’s support for a US-led move to jump-starting the Afghan peace process.
Pakistan needs money fast (from IMF ) and this is no time to criticize USA from the pulpit of the Senate :mrgreen:
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Confirmed ! Imran Is "Ashamed" Of The Niazi Moniker Attached To His Name :mrgreen:

Imran Khan is the official name of prime minister
Aug 28, 2018
The News International
ISLAMABAD: Cabinet Division has directed all the ministries and government departments to use short name of Prime Minister Imran Khan in official communication.The notification said the PM should only be addressed as Imran Khan instead of his complete name.According to the documents submitted with Election Commission of Pakistan, Imran Ahmed Khan Niazi is PM Khan’s complete name. However, till filing of this report the official website of PM Office has not complied with the directives.
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'Only Rs.15 for a helicopter ride!': PM Imran Khan's commute ridiculed in viral video

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/36072 ... -video#t=1

Following the debacle that Prime Minister Imran Khan appears tangled in regarding his travel via helicopters to and from Bani Gala, this humorous video has been making rounds on social media.

The widely circulated video shows a man ridiculing PM’s commute to and from his Bani Gala residence in a helicopter, by jumping atop the aircraft and pretending to be conductor of local buses.

The man putting up the amusing show, and the people surrounding him engaged in gales of laughter while conversing in Pashto language.

“Fare only Rs.15!” The man can be seen announcing in a rhythmical tone.

The video had come after Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry had defended PM Khan’s use of helicopter saying the commute only costs as much as Rs.55 per kilometer.

The claim by Chaudhry has been greatly ridiculed by social media users who have termed the statement as ‘ignorant’ while continuing to mock the leaders, an example of which can be seen in this video.

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Paki Origin Economist Not Impressed With The Kaptaan's Populist Remedies Like Bringing Back "Looted Wealth" !

Grave Challenges and Misplaced Priorities
Atta Ali Malik
Aug 27, 2018
A new government has taken charge in Islamabad: the party of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) was elected on the populist platform of accountability and restoring national pride. However, the new government faces serious challenges, the paramount of which is economic meltdown. The country currently faces a massive financial crisis, owing to a number of missteps of the past regime and the perpetual rot in Pakistan’s economy. By all estimates, Pakistan immediately needs a forex fund infusion of US$ 12-14 billion to pay liabilities in the next few months. That said, Pakistan’s current account deficit has skyrocketed to over US$ 2 billion per month and its trade deficit was US$ 3.19 billion in July, translating to an annualized deficit of around US$ 35 billion. This trade deficit is the biggest contributor to the country’s current account crisis.
Prime Minister Imran Khan, in his first speech to the nation, highlighted the challenges faced by the country and assured the nation that the new government will take on these challenges through fiscal discipline, austerity, and accountability. His speech, though very candid and compelling, failed to propose any tangible solutions as to how Mr. Khan’s government plans on restoring the economy. More so, the highlighting of key challenges and grim reality in the speech may likely dissuade investors and cause them to put their decision to invest in Pakistan on hold.
For now, the PTI government’s key priority seems to be bringing money from outside into Pakistan. In this regard, the strategy seems focused on two prongs. One is to bring back the allegedly ‘looted’ wealth to the country by prosecuting the culprits. And the second Is to incentivize overseas Pakistanis to bring their wealth back to Pakistan. This strategy seems insufficient in dealing with both the short-term and long-term economic challenges of the country.
First, let us talk about the ‘looted wealth’ stored abroad. People seem out of sync with reality regarding the magnitude of wealth stashed abroad. This figure is put at US$ 200 billion. To put things in perspective, Pakistan’s total banking deposit base is around US$ 105 billion. More so, the country’s budget for fiscal year 2018-19 stands at US$ 47 billion, while the average budget of the last 10 years should stand at around 30-35 billion dollars. Now, even if the entire budget gets stashed abroad, this amounts to around 6-7 years of total budget. This stat alone should make one discard the 200 billion claim, forget the fact that a lot of this budget gets spent on salaries and operational aspects of civil, military, and judicial expenses and salaries of the state. Pakistan’s total foreign debt stands at US$ 91 billion, which is less than half the 200 billion mark. Even if one agrees that this figure is accurate, bringing this back would be a tiresome, lengthy legal procedure with low chances of success. Yet this flimsy figure is quoted by country’s finance minister and Prime Minister as a means to ensure financing going forward.
So, what this well informed person is saying that the figure of $ 200 Billion was just pulled out of thin air and for purposes, it has become the gospel truth , without a shred of evidence to support it :twisted:
As for incentivizing Pakistanis to bring money back to Pakistan, one has to understand the potential sources of the money. There are four potential sources of funding among overseas Pakistanis. First is the labor class, mostly in Gulf Cooperation Council countries. They earn labor wages and send most of their earnings back home to support their families. They are the largest source of remittances to the country and since they already send the bulk of their earnings back home, no significant incremental gain can be expected from them.
The second segment is the well-settled Pakistani professionals who mostly reside in western countries and earn a good living there. These Pakistanis own property, have children in the foreign education system, and possess foreign passports. For all practical purposes, they belong in the new countries. To expect that a regime change could incentivize them to move a significant part of their wealth to Pakistan seems unrealistic. There will be some success with this segment, but that will be too little and its impact will be marginal in the short-term.
The third segment is the exporters who have their companies registered abroad and because of mistrust of the government’s policies and taxation regime, move a minimal portion of their profits to Pakistan. To expect that this segment, because of their trust in Mr. Khan, will start bringing more and more profits into Pakistan is also unrealistic. The state should try to give this segment the confidence to bring most of its profits back, but this is going to be a long-term process and requires trust in institutions and the system, rather than in an individual or a party of their choice.
The fourth and final segment are the big businessmen of Pakistani origin abroad who come and go with every regime. Even this regime has a few associates, such as British real estate tycoon Aneel Musarat. But such businessmen have been investing in every regime, be it of Pervez Musharraf, of PPP, or of PMLN. Faces change but every regime has had such investors coming in and thus the hope of any gain is minimal.
The new Paki Govt, IMO is expecting too much from the expat Pakis to fix Pakistan's problems !
Another option that the government is considering to fix the financial crisis is to ask the Chinese to reschedule some of the corporate loans for the CPEC projects. This could potentially cause long-term damage to the country’s creditworthiness and should be avoided at all costs. What the government can ask the Chinese to help with is probing the alleged cost-overruns and paybacks in CPEC projects, ensuring any funds thus discovered reach the Pakistani treasury. It will be an easier fate with the Chinese government for projects that are under-development or have recently been deployed.
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Veteran Paki Journo Warns Imran Khan Govt Of Immense Challenges Ahead !
Optimal equilibrium in the PM’s cabinet?
The News International - Mosharraf Zaidi
Aug 28, 2018
If Prime Minister Imran Khan is going to fulfil the promises he has made, one of the challenges he will face will be to find the optimal equilibrium between too little coordination across the key functions of government he now controls, and too much.
What do we mean by “optimal equilibrium of coordination across key functions of government”? Let’s take the example of the Ministry of Finance headed by Asad Umar, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, headed by the experienced Shah Mehmood Qureshi.
The primary challenge faced by the newly-elected government is to prevent a fiscal crisis that undermines its ability to allocate resources in a manner consistent with the PTI manifesto’s lofty ambitions and the very high expectations of its voters. In short, the cabinet needs to ensure that Imran Khan has enough money to pay for the reforms and social services that he speaks so passionately about. And this needs to be ensured in an environment where the outgoing caretaker finance minister has published an array of policy papers that include one that recommends slashing provincial allocations within the divisible pool by Rs212 billion.
From the moment that they took oath of office, the policy sins of the absconding Ishaq Dar and the already incarcerated Nawaz Sharif have become the responsibility of Asad Umar and Shah Mehmood Qureshi.
The previous government bequeathed the country a double-headed macroeconomic monster: the first is a crisis of too few exports. Pakistan has a substantial current account deficit (Pakistan’s imports are much higher than its exports). How much higher? The country imported $2.2 billion worth of goods and services more than it exported in July alone. Moody’s estimates that the total current account deficit for this fiscal year will remain under 4.8 percent of the GDP, or in the neighbourhood of the same $15 billion to $18 billion that it was in the 2017-2018 fiscal year. But the July export-import numbers (even after the substantial currency devaluation this calendar year) suggest that the total current account deficit might be closer to $25 billion.
The second (and closely related) is a crisis of too few dollars in the bank. The country’s profile of debt liabilities raises questions about the health of its foreign exchange reserves. This is not an issue of prestige, but simply of the capacity to pay back the loans that Pakistan has taken over the last few years to pay for the nice things the country needs (and Pakistan’s people deserve – more on this below). The total debt repayment due this fiscal year is roughly $9 billion, whereas Pakistan has foreign exchange reserves of roughly $10 billion. In macroeconomic terms, this represents a dramatically close shave. These two crises represent clear and present dangers to the country across several dimensions. Let’s quickly assess these dimensions.
First, let us not forget what the objective of this exercise is: to have enough money to pay for things. PM Khan has promised that he will create ten million jobs, expand schooling to all Pakistani children, including the 22 million kids that are out of school, reduce maternal and infant mortality, address stunting, and create the momentum that helps Pakistan tackle climate change. He will also have to ensure that our soldiers and spies have the resources they need to continue to protect this country from the terrorists and enemies that are tirelessly working to kill innocent Pakistanis. To do all this, the government needs money. The outgoing caretaker finance minister – as competent as they come – says it needs at least Rs212 billion; other experts indicate it may needs as much as Rs500 billion more than it has. And everyone seems to be suggesting that whether it is through the provinces or through the federal government, but basically Pakistanis should be punished with even lower quality and lower coverage of services than before the PTI came to power.
Pakistan is living beyond its means of income for a long long time . Time to cut the bloated defence budget !
Finance Minister Asad Umar therefore has a fiscal problem of prioritisation and allocations that he needs to solve, in a manner that is cognizant of accounting realities, but geared to solving not accounting, but political puzzles.
If the PTI is to succeed in governing, where the PML-N failed, it will need to treat the macroeconomic, national security and foreign policy challenges that Pakistan faces with much more seriousness than what was exposed in the cabinet agendas shared with the media last week. (JKT come home?)
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REAL COST OF A HELI RIDE ! PAKI INFO MINISTER SHOULD TAKE DUE NOTE :twisted:
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PM uses Agusta AW 139 twice a day to commute b/w Bani Gala & PM House

Cost approx $1100/hour - 30 mins engine is on/trip - 1 hr round trip - 2 hrs a day - roughly Rs 275,000/day - times 26 days (not counting Sundays) -

Monthly cost Rs 7.15 million
Annual cost Rs 85.8 million
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Peerni interferes on behalf of her ex !

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Rizwan Omer Gondal topped the CSS exam in 2007 - he has an MA in history from QAU & was a lecturer at GCU when he sat for the exam -
He was presently serving as DPO Pakpattan - the police under his command stopped a car at a checkpost - the man refused - read what happened next
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X Posted on the Analyzing CPEC & OBOR, Chinese Strategy and Implications Threads

China defends ‘New Silk Road’ against debt complaints – AP

BEIJING: Chinese officials on Monday defended Beijing’s initiative to build a “New Silk Road” of railways and other infrastructure across Asia against complaints it leaves host countries with too much debt after Malaysia canceled two high-profile projects.

The officials said President Xi Jinping’s signature foreign policy initiative is creating assets that are needed by developing countries but might take time to pay off.

The deputy chairman of the Cabinet planning agency, Ning Jizhe, rejected what he said were foreign news reports that blamed the initiative for debt problems. “People’s livelihoods and economic development have been boosted,” Ning said at a news conference. “No ‘debt trap’ has been created.”

Other governments welcomed Xi’s initiative in 2013 in a region the Asian Development Bank says needs more than $26 trillion of infrastructure investment by 2030 to keep economies growing.

The initiative, called “One Belt, One Road” in Chinese and the “Belt and Road Initiative” in English, is a business venture, not aid. Chinese officials say financing is on commercial terms. Beijing wants to attract non-Chinese investors but that has happened only on a few of the hundreds of railway, power plant, highway and other projects.

Some governments including the United States, Japan and India worry Beijing is trying to build a China-centered structure that will erode their influence. Some Chinese-led projects have run into complaints that they are too costly and give too little work to local contractors. Some governments including Thailand, Tanzania, Sri Lanka and Nepal have scrapped, scaled back or renegotiated projects.

This month, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad canceled projects including a $20 billion railway he said his country cannot afford. Last December, Sri Lanka sold control of its port of Hambantota to a Chinese state-owned company after falling behind in repaying $1.5bn in loans from Beijing.
Examples of “China's Action in case the Debtor Nations are unable to Repay – Service their Chinese Debt:

Sighting land

1. The penalty that Sri Lanka had to pay was land, swapped along with operational control of the Hambantota Port, in exchange for the debt that they could no longer service.

2. In 2011, the government of Tajikistan announced that they had just concluded a deal with the government of China, ceding control of 1,100 square kilometres of mountainous land to the Chinese under the garb of settling a centuries-old border dispute. The agreement had been reached in 1999, but finalised precisely at a time when Tajikistan’s debt difficulties began. The territory represents one per cent of the country’s total land area.
Chinese authorities choose projects “very carefully” and examine host country finances to make sure they can repay loans, said a deputy commerce minister, Qian Keming. However, he said they would welcome the participation of developed countries and international organizations to improve transparency and guarantee “high quality” projects.

“These physical facilities will play a long-term role,” said Qian. “But we don’t necessarily see a return in the short run.” A deputy foreign minister, Zhang Jun, said “Belt and Road” officials were preparing to appoint an advisory board of former political leaders, academics and experts. He said an “international commercial expert committee” was appointed this week to give legal advice.

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Cop Refuses to Apologise to Imran Khan’s Wife’s Ex Husband, Sacked
Aug 27, 2018
The Quint

A senior Pakistani police officer was sacked after he refused to tender an apology to former husband of prime minister Imran Khan's third wife Bushra Bibi for stopping him at a picket.
The Punjab government on Monday, 27 August removed District Police Officer (Pakpattan) Rizwan Omar Gondal from his post and ordered him to report to the central police office Lahore following his refusal to tender an apology to Khawar Manika, ex-husband of Bushra Bibi.
A senior police officer told PTI that Khawar Manika was coming from Lahore to Pakpattan (some 175-km from Lahore) when he was stopped at a picket at 1 am on 23 August.
Manika didn’t stop his car when police signalled him at the picket. Police chased his car and intercepted it a few kms away. Khawar Manika hurled abuses at police officials for not letting him go despite his introduction.
The official said DPO Gondal was summoned by newly elected Chief Minister Usman Buzdar on 24 August.
The chief minister told the DPO that Manika has complained that police officials had misbehaved with him therefore he should apologise. Gondal, however, refused to apologise saying he didn’t do anything wrong. On this the chief minister ordered his removal.
The officer added that Gondal has been removed on the direction of Imran Khan after Bushra Bibi took up the matter with him.Opposition PML-N has criticised Imran Khan for intervening in the matter of his wife's ex-husband.
This is merit what Imran Khan has been talking after coming to power. What example Khan has set to remove senior police officer is before everyone and it is regrettable.
Early this year, Khan married his "spiritual guide" Bushra Bibi.
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40% of Karachi without water for last 15 days - Naeem Khanzada
KARACHI: More than 40% of the areas in Karachi are without water for the past 15 days. A scarce resource in most towns, the inequitable distribution of water by the Karachi Water and Sewerage Board (KWSB) officials has aggravated the crisis in the city as citizens are compelled to buy water at exorbitant rates.
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Tarbela Dam Is Dying :cry:

Tarbela Dam is dying, only one way to save it's live
Aug 29, 2018

Obituary :
Tarbela Dam died today, survived by its brother Mangla Dam and Mother Pakistan . Reliable sources have indicated that Mangla and Pakistan are not in "good health" these days :mrgreen:
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Dus Percenti Compromised By Deep State And Trying To Save His Skin :roll:

Former President Asif Zardari unveils his foreign accounts and assets, there is a surprise
Aug 28, 2018
ISLAMABAD Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari has unveiled his foreign assets and accounts in a statement to supreme court of Pakistan.
He has informed the Supreme Court that he does not own any properties or bank accounts abroad.The former president claimed this in an affidavit submitted in the Non-Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO) case registered against him in the country’s top court. Hearing of the case will take place on Wednesday.
So, Imran's NAYA PAKISTAN has no hope of recovering at least a couple of billions from this slippery crook :roll:
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Peregrine wrote:SSridhar Ji :

Please do include the so-called Great Son of India i.e. J L Nehru who gave away a Part of Kashmir and then the Indus River Waters along with about £ 63 Million i.e. US$ 176.4 Milliom to Terroristan to BUY 19.8 PER CENT OF THE INDUS RIVER WATERS. In 1964 - 1965 - Gold was US$ 36.50 per Troy Ounce IOW Nehru paid Terroristan 4,972,92817679 TROY OUNCES. This Gold at today's Price of US$ $1,205.97 per Troy Ounce equates to US$ 5,876.50519336 BILLION. This amount was PAID BY INDIA TO GET ITS SHARE OF BEING THE UPPER RIPARIAN STATE! Disgusting to say the least! :evil:

Thus, the Perfidy of Sir Olaf Caroe et al along with Jinnah, Iqbal, Raja of Mahmudabad, Liaqat Ali, Sir Syed Ahmed Khan et al pales into insignificance when compared to J L Nehru’s so called PATRIOTISM TO HIS MOTHERLAND "INDIA"!

BTW : Did Nehru get the IWT agreed by the Indian Parliament?

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I think you did calculation some where wrong, according to my calculation the amount India gave to pakistan was US$ 5.8 billion and not 5876 billion. Though I agree the amount of 5.8 billion dollars is still large even in today's value and would have been much larger in 1960 when our per capita income was much lower.
That is not full picture Peregrine saar. The total cost of IWT to Pakistan, IIRC, was more than $1 Billion, initial WB proposal was that India will have to pay for all of the cost. Nehru flatly refused and Pakistan won't budge unless the cost of the treaty is taken care of. In the end when Nehru put a deadline for Pak to accept the terms or India will move unilaterally on diverting water that it needs. WB came up with a cost sharing idea that had a lot of goodies for Pakistan so they finally buckled. I think Pakistan's contribution was twice that of India and almost 70% was funded by US/EU as grants.

This money was needed to build canal/dam infrastructure to take water from western rivers to farmers that were already using the water of eastern rivers. Pakistan had to give up the existing water use while India didn't give up any existing use, we created net addition in both basins. Unfortunately we still haven't used our share of water in western sector which is in million acre-ft range.

If I had my way, I wouldn't give a cent or a drop of water to these fukers but we couldn't starve millions of fukers either. They would have all migrated back into India from open borders of that time.

Also $160 M in 1965 adjusted for inflation/cost of living, comes to $1.00 B in 2018 dollars, as per many online calculators. A very hefty sum by any means but worth it.
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Naya Pakistan Is Unlikely To Stop This Kind Of Thing !

Man chops off foot of minor son in Kasur

Naya Pakistan Is Unlikely To Stop This Kind Of Thing !

Two teenagers sexually abused in Rahim Yar Khan
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JAHIL HAM-EID SAYS THAT FOREIGN MINISTER. S.M. QURESHI'S SON ( WHO IS A PTI MNA FROM MULTAN ) IS A CIA AGENT NOW !


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SMQ was the Foreign Minister then as well...He used his closeness with US/CIA officials to get his son admitted into the inner sanctum of US Govt & CIA. Now the son is brought back into Pakistan's power corridors....same old game...like father like son...

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India, Pakistan Armies Face-off in Volleyball Court During Historic Military Drill, China and Russia Pick Sides

News 18
Aug 28, 2018
New Delhi: For the first time, the armies of India and Pakistan are participating in a massive anti-terror drill of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in Russia. On the sidelines of the drill, an Indian Army contingent beat its Pakistani counterpart in the final of a friendly volleyball match organised on Sunday. An army officer said the team of 5 Rajput Regiment emerged winners among the eight participating nations, he said.
While the Russians were seen cheering for India, the Chinese supported the Pakistani army during the match that India won by 3-0. Earlier, it was India in Russia’s corner and Pakistan in China’s as the two nations faced off in a friendly futsal match which the Russians won.
The match held under the SCO Peace Mission Exercise, was conducted by the Central Military Commission of Russia.
The anti-terror exercise is being held at Chebarkul town in Chelyabinsk region in Russia from August 22 to August 29. It is aimed at expanding cooperation among the member countries to deal with the growing menace of terrorism and extremism.
Pakistan is the problem, not the solution !
Around 200 Army and Air Force personnel from India are participating in the exercise. Other SCO member countries include Russia, China, Kyrgyz Republic, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
It is for the first time since Independence that India and Pakistan are both part of a military exercise, though the armies of the two nations have worked together in UN peacekeeping missions.India and Pakistan were admitted as observers of the grouping in 2005 and they were admitted as full members of the bloc last year.
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I am now getting increasingly certain that Peerni is not imran's choice but ISI/TSPA's imposition. think about it, IK's taste in women tended to be younger & nubile, which is the opposite of peerni. this nikah comes out of left field and whenever an entity behaves way out of the baseline, external factors are involved.
What do I mean by that ? well, TSPA wanted imran but were not sure that he will stay on the agenda, he is after all a long time sinner with a long variety of sins. How do you ensure that such a person will stick to the (army's) mandate ? Well, put a 24X7 tail on him. that's just how entities like ISI think.
imran is not new to politics, nor has his politics undergone any massive changes since last time. But there is a noticeable difference in army support. What changed ? TSPA must have had a condition that IK accept peerni as his biwi in return for backing from the khakee uniforms. having someone keeping an eye on IK allows the TSPA to have some trust that he will stay on the straight and narrow.
This would also explain the sudden estrangement with reham khan, which caught that lady with surprise. IK would have needed time to create the narrative; put a decent amount of time between the engagements and slot in a courting period.
If we plot IK's personal life & deep state support to PTI on a timeline, we might see a very interesting correlation.
just my 2 naya paisa.
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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

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How old is this Peerni? Is a picture of her face exists anywhere?
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I saw one without the veil supposed to be her pic. It was there a few pages back. But how would anybody know what/who is behind that veil? Im the Dimm did say that he never saw her face before he married her. So the question, what did he see to jump into a marriage? Inner beauty or whatever?
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Rahul M wrote:I am now getting increasingly certain that Peerni is not imran's choice but ISI/TSPA's imposition. think about it, IK's taste in women tended to be younger & nubile, which is the opposite of peerni. this nikah comes out of left field and whenever an entity behaves way out of the baseline, external factors are involved.
Dimmy's nikaah with RK too came out of the left field, with few people aware of their "dating" and even fewer aware of RK.

Going down the same line of thinking, perhaps it wasn't just ISI/TSPA that were working on Dimmy, perhaps MI6/CIA were too and therefore setting him up with a desi British National for his wife. One can make all sorts of assumptions as to what she was doing there.

She gathered a lot of dirt on him during the time they were married and one can safely assume it was shared with many. The book release was only the tip of the iceberg, probably there is much more to "come" should Dimmy not toe the line. Whose line is it anyway? One can only guess.

So it seems that Dimmy is sandwiched between two entities (and probably not in the way he likes). In his eagerness and greed to become the Wazir-e-azam he bartered everything from his hair to his testimonials into the grip of "invisible hands". Watch him squeal from time to time.
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"Someone" In Gilgit Is Against Girls' Education !

Police foil plot to burn down girls school, college in Ghizer
The Express Tribune
Aug 29, 2018
GILGIT: Six suspected militants were arrested for planning an attack on a girls school and women’s college in Gilgit-Baltistan’s (G-B) Ghizer district on Sunday.“We managed to foil their [terrorists’] plan before they could execute it,” Deputy Inspector General Gohar Nafees told The Express Tribune.
Nafees said that six of the 13 suspected militants have been taken into custody. He added that 10 were seminary students from the Diamer district.
So, it is the Mullah Brigade. Solid Allies of the Deep State !
“The group was headed by local cleric Inayatullah, who has also been nabbed,” Nafees said.
He disclosed that they had planned to target schools being run under the Aga Khan schools system and the women degree college at Ghakuch.The valley is connected to Diamer, where over two dozen girls schools were torched earlier this month.
Northern Pakiland is inhabited by followers of the Ismaili Aga Khan ( a shia sub sect ) not recognized as "Muslims" by the mainstream Sunnis who dominate Pakiland !
They have confessed to their involvement in failed assassination attempts at Prince Karim Aga Khan, as well as, former G-B governor Karam Ali Shah in a bomb attack back in 2015.
Both the bombs had been defused by police. He said the plot to target the school and college was hatched at the seminary, adding police also recovered explosive material and petrol during the raid.
How is Imran's Naya Pakistan going to handle this purana problem . Is "Human Rights" "Minister", Mazari going to order a probe . After all, she herself belongs to the fair sex ( in name onlee !) :mrgreen:
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Dus Percenti On The Defensive : Zardari Tells Supreme Court He Owns Neither Property Nor Bank Account Outside Pakistan :lol:

Zardari tells SC he owns neither any property nor bank account outside Pakistan

Surrey "Palace" :roll:
Londonistan Hotel :roll:
French Country Side Villa :roll:
Dubai Condo :roll:
Jewel, Gold and Currency Stashed Away In Swiss Vaults And Bank A/cs
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According To This Paki Ayesha "Austerity" Under Imran Khan's Naya Pakistan Is A Joke !

The austerity merry-go-round
Dawn - Arifa Noor
Aug 29, 2018
THE Khan promises to be frugal with the government’s entertainment and transport budget and his critics are up in arms. It’s a sham. It’s not enough. It was promised before in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa but never happened.
This obsession with austerity is partly because of the gap between the lifestyles of our rulers and those they govern.
But despite the romanticism, the idea of austerity as our governments practice it is rarely worthwhile. It’s no solution to our economic problems and neither can it turn those who ‘rule’ us into those who ‘serve’ us without major reforms in the system of governance. Which is perhaps why, the austerity measures and the debate over them is forgotten within days and weeks of a new government taking over.
The PTI would do well to remember this. It’s time to govern and reform, rather than waste our time in spelling out its austerity measures and debating the number of cars being used and the kind of biscuits being served at the government’s expense. Let’s get down to the real business.
In Pakistan, "austerity" usually means "discouraging" of using state funds to "upgrade" your personal lifestyle :mrgreen:
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Not Sure That This Is Something That Someone Should Be "Proud Off " :evil:

100,000 conversions and counting, meet the ex-Hindu who herds souls to the Hereafter
The Express Tribune
Jan 23, 2012

Old Article But Still Relevant In The Toxic Environment Of Imran's Naya Pakistan
MATLI: Such are Deen Mohammad Shaikh’s powers of persuasion that he has converted 108,000 people to Islam since 1989, the year he left his birth religion Hinduism behind.
Despite 108,000 conversions, for which a record is kept, Shaikh still doesn’t feel his work is done. He wants everyone to be a Muslim and learn from his example. He also attends the Tablighi Jamaat’s annual congregation in Raiwind, although he doesn’t believe in sectarian divisions. “All groups are like brothers to me,” he declares. :roll:
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Isloo Drug Addicts Go On A Rampage !

Case cracked: Four killed in capital for not washing teacups
Express Tribune
Aug 29, 2018
ISLAMABAD: Four men, whose bullet-riddled bodies were recovered from the Koral area of the capital last month, had apparently been killed over a spat amongst two groups on doing the dishes.
On July 12, the bodies of four men were discovered in a makeshift quarter near the Bangial village within the remits of the Koral police station. Two bodies were found lying in a pool of blood inside a room built on land being developed near the Bangial village. ( Hope it is not near Bani - Gala residence of PM Imran !) Two other bodies were found nearby.
“They were all addicts who fought over cleaning and washing a few mugs. We have completed our investigation and submitted a report to the court for trial,” another officer with knowledge of the investigation said.
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Updates On The Imran Khan Bullshit Meter ( AKA "Khan Meter")

Imran Khan 100 day plan: Day 10 update (Courtesy of Khan meter)
4 of the 35 promises are in progress. These include:
A formation of a task force is also being discussed to tackle the matter of creating 10 million jobs and 5 million houses
PS: Money talks, Bullshit walks !
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Indo - Pak "Bonding" In Roos :roll:

Pakistani and Indian soldiers dancing to desi beats. | SCO Summet 2018
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Katare wrote:
Jits wrote: I think you did calculation some where wrong, according to my calculation the amount India gave to pakistan was US$ 5.8 billion and not 5876 billion. Though I agree the amount of 5.8 billion dollars is still large even in today's value and would have been much larger in 1960 when our per capita income was much lower.
That is not full picture Peregrine saar. The total cost of IWT to Pakistan, IIRC, was more than $1 Billion, initial WB proposal was that India will have to pay for all of the cost. Nehru flatly refused and Pakistan won't budge unless the cost of the treaty is taken care of. In the end when Nehru put a deadline for Pak to accept the terms or India will move unilaterally on diverting water that it needs. WB came up with a cost sharing idea that had a lot of goodies for Pakistan so they finally buckled. I think Pakistan's contribution was twice that of India and almost 70% was funded by US/EU as grants.

This money was needed to build canal/dam infrastructure to take water from western rivers to farmers that were already using the water of eastern rivers. Pakistan had to give up the existing water use while India didn't give up any existing use, we created net addition in both basins. Unfortunately we still haven't used our share of water in western sector which is in million acre-ft range.

If I had my way, I wouldn't give a cent or a drop of water to these fukers but we couldn't starve millions of fukers either. They would have all migrated back into India from open borders of that time.

Also $160 M in 1965 adjusted for inflation/cost of living, comes to $1.00 B in 2018 dollars, as per many online calculators. A very hefty sum by any means but worth it.
The exact figures depends on how you calculate, I think the method used by peregrine (that is in terms of value of gold at that time and today) is correct and standard one.

Now the treaty in principle of division of rivers was good as it allowed Pakistan to build infrastructure to shift it's dependency on western rivers, without it both India and Pakistan would have been fighting for sharing of same waters of eastern rivers because both had infrastructure built on eastern rivers before partition. It benefited India by being able to fully utilise the eastern rivers.

Where it went wrong and Nehru became too generous was he gave away our rights for Chenab river, the river flows mostly through Punjab and Jammu region which was expected to come to India even if Kashmir is to be partitioned on the basis of religion and we can easily build infrastructure there because of relatively easier terrain.
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Rahul M wrote:I am now getting increasingly certain that Peerni is not imran's choice but ISI/TSPA's imposition. think about it
Peerni appeared on the scene around the same time that Rawheel Shareif ‘left for Saudi Arabia’ :mrgreen: Just saying :wink: :D :lol:
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Good post Jits! Many ways to skin a cat.
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Pakistani origin immigrant detained over alleged plot to thwart blasphemous contest
Aug 29, 2018
THE HAGUE – Dutch police have stated that they have detained a 26-year-old man suspected of threatening an attack on the Dutch Parliament or on the organizer of a blasphemous cartoon competition.Police didn’t identify the targeted organizer by name, however, a video of a Pakistani origin youngster has gone viral the internet, in which he could be seen asking for support to thwart the competition, scheduled to be held in November.
In his video, the boy, who apparently seems to be around 26, expressed that he traveled to the Netherlands from France in the wake of the competition to be organized by anti-Islam lawmaker Geert Wilders.In Urdu language, the man asked social media buffs to make the video viral, threatening that he could do anything as he was in close proximity to Wilder’s office in the Parliament complex where the event is scheduled. Police did not release any details of the suspect or his identity but said the suspect made the threat in a Facebook post, implying that the detainee might be the man shown in video.The suspect is likely to be presented before a judge on Friday.
When is Naya Pakistan's "Human Rights" " Minister" (Madame) Mazari going to "demand" release of this Paki (legal :roll: ) immigrant :mrgreen:
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Falijee Ji :
Congratulations are in order for PIA .

Ahem : Third from the Bottom!

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World Bank pegs future budgetary support to viable economic plan - Shahbaz Rana

ISLAMABAD: The World Bank pegged its future substantial financial support to Pakistan with a viable economic plan that could provide solutions to the country’s decades-old structural problems, which are hemorrhaging the $313-billion economy.

In his first visit to Pakistan, the vice president of the World Bank for South Asia region, Hartwig Schafer, outlined the actions that Islamabad needed to undertake in return of the Washington-based lender’s future budgetary support.

Schafer met Finance Minister Asad Umar at his office, which was the first visit by a senior official of any lending agency and will be followed by a visit of the Asian Development Bank director general the coming day.

The finance minister and vice president discussed the current economic crisis and actions needed to overcome the issues and put Pakistan on a sustainable growth path, World Bank’s Country Director Illango told The Express Tribune after the meeting.

He stated that the vice president conveyed to the finance minister that the “World Bank will continue to support Pakistan through a range of financing instruments, once the government has worked out its economic turnaround strategy by the end of September”.

The international lender has suspended its budgetary support to Pakistan after the country’s macroeconomic situation started deteriorating over one and a half years ago. Currently, the Washington-based lending agency is providing project loans.

For the last three years, the bank’s loan disbursements to Pakistan are on a decline, decreasing from $1.5 billion in fiscal year 2016 to $769.5 million in fiscal year 2018, according to statistics of the finance ministry.

Indian lobby at World Bank frustrates Pakistan

The finance minister has not yet finalised his strategy to deal with the deepening economic crisis. One of the key issues in front of Umar is whether Pakistan will obtain the International Monetary Fund (IMF) programme or not. The decision will also determine the quantum of World Bank and ADB’s lending to Pakistan. Sources familiar with the matter said Umar would wait for the visit of US secretary of state to Pakistan, scheduled for September 5. They said that only after getting a positive response from Mike Pompeo, Pakistan will decide about obtaining the loan from IMF.

While speaking at the floor of the Senate on Tuesday, Umar said that the government is deliberating on the prevailing economic situation in the country and the final decision will be taken after the parliament is taken on board. “If Pakistan decides to go for the IMF programme, it won’t be the first time that Pakistan has gone to the IMF. We have gone for the programme 12 times previously,” he said.

Sources said that in case, Pakistan decided against the IMF programme, the government would have to give a viable economic plan to convince international lenders to restore the budgetary support. World Bank Stupidity Knows No Bounds. Terroristan deciding against the IMF programme? NOT A SNOWBALL'S CHANCE IN HELL!

Pakistan’s gross external financing needs for this fiscal year are estimated to be in the range of $26 billion to $28 billion with a financing gap of about $12 billion.

To a question, whether the World Bank would give budgetary support to Pakistan without a letter of comfort from IMF, Illango stated that “Pakistan is a long standing partner and our support will continue with the relevant financing instruments once the strategy is finalised”. The I M F IS IN THE MOOD FOR FINANCIAL HARA-KIRI

The World Bank group comprises of five institutions. Its two arms, the IBRD and International Development Association (IDA), give loans to governments. The International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD) offers loans for projects, programmes or policy purposes, as well as hedging products to manage currency and interest-rate risk exposures and guarantee products to eligible member countries.

Sources said that in addition to project financing, Pakistan may secure a programme for results financing from the World Bank. However, the Ministry of Finance will have to share a deliverable plan for fiscal adjustment, increase in tax revenue and take practical steps to cut losses of public sector enterprises. They will also have to share a plan to control the current account deficit. The international lender in the past has asked Islamabad to devalue the rupee against the US dollar to curb aggregate demand.

An official handout of the finance ministry stated that the World Bank vice president assured that the bank would continue to extend support to the Government of Pakistan for implementation of the agenda for economic growth and social development being pursued by the new government.

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bloody these pigs ...just watched 1971 movie, we release 92000 PoW and they did such things to our soldiers ... Salute

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Dutch Foreign Minister Tells Paki FM Qureshi That He Is Helpless In The Matter Of Cartoon Competition Of PBUH !

Dutch FM says caricature completion is an individual’s act
The News International
Aug 29, 2018
ISLAMABAD: Dutch Foreign Minister Stef Blok said that a caricature competition being staged by an anti-Islam parliamentarian Greet Wilders was an individual’s act.
This he said while speaking to Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi who phoned his Dutch counterpart and expressed Pakistan’s concerns about the sacrilegious competition.“It is an individual’s act. Our government is neither associated nor supporting the competition,” Blok said.
Cambridge "educated" Qureshi needs to know that western governments do not have control over newspapers, TV, Radio . And "criticism" of religion and religious heads is not a "big" deal in western countries . In USA, even POTUS is ridiculed these days on TV, Radio and in newsprint, and he cannot do anything about it !
The two foreign ministers agreed to work together and coordinate in the matter, according to a statement issued by the Foreign Office. :roll:
Not sure what this means in practical terms . Some sort of insertion by the Paki F.O to salvage the Echendee factor :mrgreen:
Foreign Minister Qureshi expressed the deepest concern on the holding of abominable and sacrilegious competition by the Party of Freedom (PVV) leader Greet Wilders. "This deliberate effort under the pretext of freedom of expression is of great concern to the Muslims across the world. Such acts must be prevented as they spread hate and intolerance in societies," the minister said.
On the other hand, Tehreek-e-Labaik Pakistan (TLP) set off for Islamabad to hold a protest against the proposed competition.
The party said that it would not end the protest unless Pakistan expelled the Dutch ambassador.
The "Labaikis" are coming home to roost . :mrgreen: . Maybe, The Kaptaan himself should intervene himself ( by either phoning the Dutch PM or meeting the Labaiki leader [ Rizvi] to calm him down.) This is way beyond Mazari's ability to solve the issue !
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