2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

[Atmavik]

^^ he should have stayed on as BJP president or become gujarat CM. After the initial blitz of art 370 and CAA his image has taken a beating. Bengal loss , Shawn bash, Farmers protest have been a major setback

[vimal]

Painful to watch but i guess a lot of people are feeling the same way

[OmkarC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXNt-hQqzEQ

Interview w/ Dr. Velagapudi Prakash Rao, a retired professor who runs a hindu org called GHHF (global hindu heritage foundation) and save temples movements. He is one of the silent Hindu revivalists who is helping revival of temples, fighting conversions in AP & TG as well as helping w/ Ghar wapasi efforts. Some excerpts/English translation, that give an insight into how things are going from bad to worse in AP/TG, likely all over the country.. surprised to hear about the Islamic university of Tirupathi:

- FCRA regulations have been good at curbing some missionary funds, but they aren't adequate. Conversions are now happening through concerted personal efforts of NRI christians who come over to India for 2-3 months for vacation and are bringing funds on their person, focussing on their own villages.

- 400 temple idols were desecrated last year in AP alone and silence from govt. 1 Jesus statue was disfigured and that prompted a state minister to visit that area, and ensured justice meted out within a few days. Silence or sarcastic remarks on the destroyed temples/idols from Govt's so called "hindu" ministers and police officials.

- Apparently, peacefuls wanted to build a large Islamic University at Tirupathi in a land illegally occupied from a nearby temple around 12 year ago. Not bothering about approvals, they just went ahead and started building it. It was first noticed by his team back in October 2010. By December same year, the district collector ordered its demolition. Muslims took it to court, case dragged on and finally a couple of years back, even High court approved the demolition order. Since then, Govt has refused to implement high court order. Usually if Govt does not take action, courts issue a contempt of court order. In this case, nothing of that sort happened.

Apparently, the illegally built Islamic University on encroached temple land is now not only going well, but in the past few months large numbers of Muslim immigrants from all over are swamping areas around Tirupathi. Furthermore, 3-4 mosques have now mushroomed within 15-20 mile radius of Tirupathi and a region called "Muslimpeta" has emerged. Next 4-5 years will see Namaz on streets blocking devotees trying to climb Tirumala hills.

- Not sure if whether the Hindus and so-called Hindu politicians are blind or cannot see what's in front of them, but they are the ones who are responsible for current state of Hindus in India. In Owaisi case, back in Dec 22, 2012 he said he'd wipe out all Hindus in 15 mins. Under 153A, 153B, 506, he should've been prosecuted and convicted. Instead, it was found that his words did not contain any enmity towards Hindus and he was duly acquitted.

"If things go on this way for the next 10 years, we are done for".

[vijayk]

Even now, BJP should constitute a high level inquiry and blame Twitter and some top journalists/jihadis for inciting violence against Nupur and simply put enormous fines like 5000 cr fine on Twitter or modify laws to allow suing of Twitter/FB by any affected party for unlimited damages. We have to make these scums pay for the violence against state. If they don't take action, they have not learn a single lesson.

[RCase]

Peacefuls had 786 as a lucky number to denote BURR. With the march of time, it is time to update to a couple of new numbers - 654 and 579 , especially for their betrothals/weddings/nikkah to signify what is in-line and odd!

[arshyam]

Modi not making any structural reforms to deal with these issues is fair criticism. That he (his govt) is aware of these issues is obvious - the NJAC is the first reform they attempted, but since that floundered they gave up that battle completely. Same for SM - after some initial attempts, they completely backtracked. That's now coming to bite us back, for police reforms could have been pushed through once the judiciary had been reformed. Now the battle seems to led by Yogi, who is approaching the issue un-coventionally yet within the purview of the existing set up. Let's see where that takes us.

[vimal]

Modi not making any structural reforms to deal with these issues is fair criticism. That he (his govt) is aware of these issues is obvious - the NJAC is the first reform they attempted, but since that floundered they gave up that battle completely. Same for SM - after some initial attempts, they completely backtracked. That's now coming to bite us back, for police reforms could have been pushed through once the judiciary had been reformed. Now the battle seems to led by Yogi, who is approaching the issue un-coventionally yet within the purview of the existing set up. Let's see where that takes us.

NJAC set the tone for this government and continues to this day. We should've toned down our expectations around ground level changes once BJP gave up that fight so easily. They remind me of middle class families who have little means but lot of pride that gets hurt easily.

[ricky_v]

Painful to watch but i guess a lot of people are feeling the same way

what is he going to do? will he cry about it? he is on the verge of tears several times in the video; the party has said "sabka saath, sabka vishwaas" on every occasion that it gets, do these people not understand that? they are getting what they voted for, the party's outlook was always in the open, if you wilfully refuse to understand and process it, then the blame is on you not on anyone else.
Also, this battered wife syndrome mentality and emotional abuse victimhood is not a healthy state of mind; accept in your heart with an evangelical fervour that the state is not there to protect you, and maybe people wont seethe and moan endlessly after every event x.

[Rudradev]

KLNM:

The timeline of events in this case is not that straightforward. According to Abhijit Iyer Mitra, the suspension of Nupur Sharma by BJP came a day BEFORE the first of the OIC nations-- Muslim Brotherhood HQ Qatar-- lodged its official protest.

Still not a great look for BJP (if they were going to stand on principle, they should have suspended her the day after she made the unsanctioned comment).

But it seems something more was going on than meets the eye (not making excuses for BJP or GOI here, as the goings-on clearly caught them flat footed).

More than a week after NS's comment, things appeared to have died down for the most part. All of a sudden, Al Jazeera (also a mouthpiece of Muslim Brotherhood based in Qatar) and associated handles began to trend blasphemy-related hashtags and blow up the NS comment story on social media.

This was a toolkit campaign with nodes in India (INC, Alt News, PFI types) and outside. The idea was to get Gulf regimes to openly condemn India, while BIF media ran stories about how Hindutva GOI was endangering 7 crore Indian nationals working in those countries.

The GOI caught wind of it at the last minute and suspended NS pre-emptively just the day before Qatar's regime (a prime mover in this MB initiative) issued its condemnation. Turkey and Kuwait (where MB is also powerful) piled on. This left the remaining gulf countries in the position of having to follow suit for fear of having the MB bloc run away with "guardianship of global Muslim sentiment" (remember, Saudi Arabia and UAE had never said a word about either CAA or Article 370, but complained about this).

GOI's haphazard and last-ditch counter effort doesn't deserve plaudits, exactly, but was perhaps a marginally better situation ("we have already suspended the spokesperson concerned") than the appearance of having been forced by Qatar to fire a spokesperson. At least, from a diplomatic standpoint. Domestically, it's a bad PR mess just like CAA and the Agro-pimp Protests were.

[sanjayc]

^^ India is pagan central. Govt. should become the spokesperson of rights of non-believers worldwide. Advocate for their rights and protest against their persecution by monotheists worldwide in any country. That is the only way. Monotheists will run away if questioned about the rights of non-believers. Their books are full of hatred of them and they actively persecute them. This is their Achille's heel. India needs to become the voice of non-believers in the world.

[ricky_v]

Advocate for their rights and protest against their persecution by monotheists worldwide in any country.

Excellent idea, india's stellar and documented track record of protecting people against persecution by monotheists in its own country will undoubtedly embolden and encourage citizens worldwide to instantaneously declare it a vishwaguru and make regular pilgrimages to it.
As an aside, pagans or LARPpagans (live action roleplaying) are not with the religion of love because they find its morality too stifling, their component is heavy with believers of June month, added emphasis on the polyamory bit; their philosophical heft is not from the sagas but from marvel and disney, admit their poison in the local consciousness at own peril.

[sanjayc]

Advocate for their rights and protest against their persecution by monotheists worldwide in any country.

Excellent idea, india's stellar and documented track record of protecting people against persecution by monotheists in its own country will undoubtedly embolden and encourage citizens worldwide to instantaneously declare it a vishwaguru and make regular pilgrimages to it.
As an aside, pagans or LARPpagans (live action roleplaying) are not with the religion of love because they find its morality too stifling, their component is heavy with believers of June month, added emphasis on the polyamory bit; their philosophical heft is not from the sagas but from marvel and disney, admit their poison in the local consciousness at own peril.

It is ideological. Christian and Muslim nations protect the interests of monotheists and dishonestly accuse non-believers of persecuting them. Non-believers keep giving explanations and defending themselves. There is nobody representing non-believers (liberal spiritual faiths) on the world stage and accusing monotheists of persecuting non-believers. India, being the motherland of all pagan faiths, has to take the lead and start judging the monotheists about the rights they give to non-believers in their own countries. That is India's natural position, standing on 5000-year old history. Monotheists will crumble quickly when the spotlight is turned on them, as defending monotheistic bigotry is not possible for anyone. Their strategy of survival is to escape scrutiny by hurling accusations on non-believers about intolerance.

[madhu]

In the present case, Nupur Sharma & Jindal spoke in such a way as to undermine both the party’s stated position as well as basic governance. The high command could have, and should have, taken immediate action against them. By waiting till we are threatened by Muslim countries, they are sending a doubly damaging message: 1. We are not sincere about our commitment to respecting all religions, hence all the noise about GoI being Hundu-fascist is justified and 2. We are weak and give in the moment someone pushes back seriously.

The timeline of events in this case is not that straightforward. According to Abhijit Iyer Mitra, the suspension of Nupur Sharma by BJP came a day BEFORE the first of the OIC nations-- Muslim Brotherhood HQ Qatar-- lodged its official protest.

hello KLNM, let me extend the argument of Rudradev. i have already given the time line. let me state it for the last time what i think and you can counter if i have not understood please correct me.

*] on may 15, 2022 India banned wheat export. (point to be noted to which i come later)

*] on May 26 2022 NS made the remark on times now channel.

*] on 11:31 AM · May 27, 2022 Mohammed Zubair shared video clip of her comments. it went viral

*] 9:57 PM · May 27, 2022 NS tweets zoo_bear is vitiate the atmosphere, cause communal disharmony & cause communal & targeted hatred against me & my family

*] May 28, 2022 Times Now deleted the video of the program from its YouTube channel the following day.

*] May 30, 2022 she was again on timesnow. don't know when it was recorded but as per twitter it is on this day.

*] 12:12 PM · May 31, 2022 NS in an interview to opindiatells that she is happy that HM office was in contact with her but her colleagues did not support her openly. but i doubt PMO which she says. she could have included to give respect is my guess.

*] Jun 5, 2022 there was small scale riots on the same day PM, CM and president were in in Kanpur Dehat (rural) for an official function in the native village of the President.

*] 3:54 PM · Jun 5, 2022, she was removed form party.. Party general secretary Arun Singh in a stated that the party is strongly against any ideology which insults or demeans any sect or religion. The BJP does not promote such people or philosophy. meaning NS insulted Mo but in reality she stated Bukari 5133. pinning all the blame which she did not do just to save the image of our hindu hrudaya samrat.

*] 8:13 PM · Jun 5, 2022 Qatar summons Indian envoy over controversial remarks of Nupur Sharma against Prophet. and hands him the note.

*] June 8- 9, 2022, Delhi Police register case against journalist Saba Naqvi, Nupur Sharma, Naveen Kumar Jindal and others

now coming to your point. lets say Modi took action against NS only after waiting till Muslim countries threatened, then lets see what Qatar statement was

The State of Qatar welcomed the statement issued by the ruling party in India in which it announced the suspension of the party's official from practicing his activities in the party due to his remarks that angered all Muslims around the world

my question is how did Qatar knew that BJP will suspend NS? have they penetrated so deep into the party level?

lets say BJP took the decision and did not announce but told the ambassador about the suspension. then have they not thought out what if they are not happy and demand more? what will be their answer, have they not think through it? offCorse they did not. this is clear from the statement

Noting that the State of Qatar is expecting a public apology and immediate condemnation of these remarks from the Government of India

this time line, your argument do not match.

now coming to why Qatar summoned the ambassador. it could be that it wanted to bargain on wheat as it was afraid that they will give middle figure to them just like what they did to EU and US. more over India bans exports of wheat, citing threat to its food security on May 15 itself but it succeed in getting assurance of its food security from India..

now the question to you is how come Qatar now happy with India without public apology ? why did they took 2 days to file case on nupur and others as a monkey balance?

[ricky_v]

It is ideological.

Couple of things:
1) Can India guarantee protection against persecution by monotheistic religions in India for even ordinary Indians? It is an open question with no concrete conclusion for either side at this point.
2) State of religion and demographics in the west today
https://www.insidehook.com/article/news ... tify-lgbtq

A recent Gallup poll revealed that LGBTQ identification in the United States has reached a new high: 7.1 percent of U.S. adults identify as something other than heterosexual, a percentage that’s doubled since 2012, largely in part due to the youngest generation being queer AF.

The findings come from aggregated 2021 data that included interviews with more than 12,000 U.S. adults who were asked whether they self-identify as straight or heterosexual, lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. Nearly 21 percent of Generation Z Americans who have reached adulthood — those who wore born between the years 1997 and 2003 — identify as LGBTQ, per the study, which is double the percentage of millennials who do. The rate of baby boomers (2.6%) and Generation Xers (4.2%) who identify as LGBTQ, on the other hand, have remained steady since Gallup began measuring LGBTQ identification in 2012, while millennials have maintained a subtle uptick from 5.8 percent to 10.5 percent over the past 10 years.

US: 1 in 5 gen z is a june believer, this with the large amount of millennial conversion is big money; to bring in the masses there is an arms race between rainbow protestants and larppagans.
https://www.themonastery.org/blog/study ... ious-group

A recent study shows that Pagans are the most LGBTQ-friendly religious group in the United States, with some 93% of Pagans in support of broad pro-LGBTQ policies, compared to 69% for other faiths.

Well, it could be because many of them are gay. A 2015 poll found that nearly half of the Pagans in England, Canada, and Oceania identify as non-heterosexual, and a Pew Research survey found that 11% of LGBTQ respondents identified their faith as some sort of Paganism.

In other words, Pagans are more likely to be gay than other faiths, and those under the LGBTQ umbrella are more likely to be Pagan than heterosexuals.


Some have also speculated that the pagan community is so pro-gay simply because its members tend to skew left politically. A recent political study of Pagans found that they vote with Democrats more often than with Republicans – and Democrats, at least in recent years, are widely viewed as the more pro-LGBTQ of the two major political parties.

Now, will your own religion survive a post-modern review by the ever-screeching? All 'isms will come into play, with the rate new outcries are invented maybe even novel ones, that's how they felled rop and transformed it from piety to a mega mall religion.
Standing for the dispossessed is a remarkable trait, but going in wary with facts and figures is always sound business.

[Cyrano]

^^^ This is a pandemic unleashed on the world using the change of function technique

[IndraD]

Uttar Pradesh destroys houses of Muslims after protests https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-61777306

[chetak]

x posted from the beedi thread


the sinhalese and pakis are already in a grave economic crisis, having dug their own graves and the beedis are next in line

the beedi forex reserves down to 5 months import, beedi govt has deferred govt employees from foreign trips, banned non essential imports.

But woke Indian liberandus who had declared the beedis as nothing less than an economic superstar are avoiding facts to shape a false narrative.


https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangl ... rd-3021536

Govt defers employees' foreign tours, less important projects

Rejaul Karim Byron , Zina Tasreen
Thu May 12, 2022

The government finally raised its guard against the dwindling dollar reserves, putting its employees' foreign tours on hold and deferring projects that require much imports.

This comes a day after the central bank toughened its rules for luxury and non-essential imports like sports utility vehicles, washing machines, air conditioners and refrigerators.

The twin moves are expected to safeguard the foreign currency reserves, which have come down to less than $42 billion -- enough to cover five months' imports.

"When times are tough, we have to take decisions that are tough too," Finance Minister AHM Mustafa Kamal told reporters after a meeting of the cabinet committee on public procurement yesterday.

The impacts of the Ukraine war, which has increased the prices of commodities in the global market, are being felt everywhere.

"We cannot say when the Ukraine war will end. Considering the global situation, we have taken this step. All this while, we were living in luxury. We can defer our luxury purchases for a month, two months or six months."

Projects that would not derail the strong economic growth momentum are being deferred, Kamal said.

"We are restructuring to effectively manage the situation. Through this, our economy will become more robust," he added.

Economists though said the government should have acted more proactively and taken the step as soon as the reserves began dipping.

After a pause in 2020 for the global coronavirus pandemic, imports started surging in 2021.

Exports were surging and remittance was gushing in, so reserves stayed at a healthy level, enough to give cover to six to eight months' import throughout last year.

The situation took a turn in January with the start of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The reserves began to feel the pinch of the drop in remittance growth, which began in July last year, as well as the swelling import bill.

By February, the import cover came down to less than six months and has been getting worse since.

Meanwhile, the taka began depreciating and the central bank was selling dollars from the reserves to keep the exchange rate stable.

"This step was necessary and should have been taken much earlier," said Debapriya Bhattacharya, distinguished fellow of the Centre for Policy Dialogue.

For instance, Nepal imposed a ban on luxury and non-essential imports last month, when its import cover was for seven months.

The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund prescribe a reserve buffer of six months' import bill.

"I don't know how much success this piecemeal move will have in preserving the foreign currency reserves," Bhattacharya added.

Earlier on April 11, banks were instructed to impose a margin of at least 25 percent on the opening of letters of credit for non-essential consumer goods but to no avail.

The government should have acted decisively much before, said Zahid Hussain, a former lead economist of the WB's Dhaka office.

"I have been saying for a while that the government's foreign currency expenditure must be brought down promptly. If the import demand is not cut, the deficit in the current account that has been widening every month will not be brought down. These are the right steps."

Hussain went on to advise the central bank to exercise restraint in its currency sales.

"The reserves have now come at a stage that it is the bare minimum. Normally, six months' import cover is sufficient but given the global inflation, eight to nine months' cover would be safe."

The exchange rate adjustment must be allowed to depreciate more.

"It will have an impact on remittance and import -- it will help both ways."

The inflation will increase but that is necessary.

"Those who will be impacted by the rising prices should be given a helping hand through the budget as not everyone will be impacted. Monetary policy cannot help them much."

[kit]

x posted from the beedi thread


the sinhalese and pakis are already in a grave economic crisis, having dug their own graves and the beedis are next in line

the beedi forex reserves down to 5 months import, beedi govt has deferred govt employees from foreign trips, banned non essential imports.

But woke Indian liberandus who had declared the beedis as nothing less than an economic superstar are avoiding facts to shape a false narrative.


https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangl ... rd-3021536

Govt defers employees' foreign tours, less important projects

Rejaul Karim Byron , Zina Tasreen
Thu May 12, 2022

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Beedi exports seems to hinge on a few niche areas [ clothing and accessories alone account half of their exports ] , nothing near as diversified as India's forget the latter's huge internal market. Also case in point without access to Indian market , they would be pakistan 2.0

[chetak]

x posted from the beedi thread


the sinhalese and pakis are already in a grave economic crisis, having dug their own graves and the beedis are next in line

the beedi forex reserves down to 5 months import, beedi govt has deferred govt employees from foreign trips, banned non essential imports.

But woke Indian liberandus who had declared the beedis as nothing less than an economic superstar are avoiding facts to shape a false narrative.


https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangl ... rd-3021536

Beedi exports seems to hinge on a few niche areas [ clothing and accessories alone account half of their exports ] , nothing near as diversified as India's forget the latter's huge internal market. Also case in point without access to Indian market , they would be pakistan 2.0

This current beedi govt is quite skillful at playing the Indian as well as the WB govts

They have also almost reached the end of their run in terms of anti incumbency, and there may be just another one term, if at all.

The govt that follows will be crude, khattarpanhi and virulently anti India but will try and camouflage it to the best they can. After all, they too will also desperately need the Indian rokda.

their jehadis will have a free run in beediland and the infiltration into India will increase manifold and they will push all the rohingiyas that they can find into India.

The terrorist groups in the NE will be allowed back into their old haunts in beediland and the new beedi govt will ensure hugely increased cross border settlement into the Indian chicken neck area just like the cheenis have demanded of them.

CAA and NRC have to be done before that scenario comes to pass. and the chicken neck area will have to be declared a military zone with no settlers of any kind what so ever allowed.

[Cyrano]

Exactly my sentiments given voice by RSN Singh ji. Someone may try to convince him or me that we are misguided or emotional or wrong and the govt (in)actions are right as per some 5D calculus. I don't think he will change his view or me, or crores more hindus like me. We are like this onlee. And we don't expect this govt or its supporters will show any qualities that will make us admire or fear them in this matter. If you can't take on the pissfulls, we will. We dont need development and GDP at the cost of seeing our sisters and daughters threatened and attacked and our Dharma insulted. If you cant stand by and defend Nupur, then we dont need you, nor will we vote for you.

[SRajesh]

^^
Cyranoji
At this rate BJP will have pusillanimous spokesperson fending the rabid BIFs/Jihadis/Nxa/Commies
People will rebel and vote out the present dispensation unless there is course correction
I always felt that NaMo is going to spring a surprise for 2024 : either he will lead and retire after a year or will have Bulldozer Baba as a standing in with him for the 2024 elections

[KLNMurthy]

KLNM:

The timeline of events in this case is not that straightforward. According to Abhijit Iyer Mitra, the suspension of Nupur Sharma by BJP came a day BEFORE the first of the OIC nations-- Muslim Brotherhood HQ Qatar-- lodged its official protest.

Still not a great look for BJP (if they were going to stand on principle, they should have suspended her the day after she made the unsanctioned comment).

But it seems something more was going on than meets the eye (not making excuses for BJP or GOI here, as the goings-on clearly caught them flat footed).

More than a week after NS's comment, things appeared to have died down for the most part. All of a sudden, Al Jazeera (also a mouthpiece of Muslim Brotherhood based in Qatar) and associated handles began to trend blasphemy-related hashtags and blow up the NS comment story on social media.

This was a toolkit campaign with nodes in India (INC, Alt News, PFI types) and outside. The idea was to get Gulf regimes to openly condemn India, while BIF media ran stories about how Hindutva GOI was endangering 7 crore Indian nationals working in those countries.

The GOI caught wind of it at the last minute and suspended NS pre-emptively just the day before Qatar's regime (a prime mover in this MB initiative) issued its condemnation. Turkey and Kuwait (where MB is also powerful) piled on. This left the remaining gulf countries in the position of having to follow suit for fear of having the MB bloc run away with "guardianship of global Muslim sentiment" (remember, Saudi Arabia and UAE had never said a word about either CAA or Article 370, but complained about this).

GOI's haphazard and last-ditch counter effort doesn't deserve plaudits, exactly, but was perhaps a marginally better situation ("we have already suspended the spokesperson concerned") than the appearance of having been forced by Qatar to fire a spokesperson. At least, from a diplomatic standpoint. Domestically, it's a bad PR mess just like CAA and the Agro-pimp Protests were.

It seems BJP & GoI’s operating style seems to rely on “behind the scenes adjustments” with other players in the political & international field, along with completely ignoring coherent communication strategy with the public.

I am not saying that forcefully articulating India’s position in matters such as CAA would have miraculously silenced enemies. It won’t.

What I am saying is that such an articulation would give Indian patriotic forces a moral standard to rally around. Instead, people were just left to vent on their own feelings, without anything to guide them.

Would have been so much better in the CAA case to emphasize the moral obligation to victims of persecution, and stress the importance of “lawful” in the right to engage in lawful protest, and steer clear of spewing venom against Muslims, Islam, and so on. If only for tactical or taqiya reasons if nothing else.

I never understood Modi’s reluctance to play up the democratic, grass roots aspect of his politics versus the DIE politics of his enemies. He has made statements that show he understands this, don’t know why it is not effectively weaponized.

[KLNMurthy]

@madhu @Rudradev:

I accept that the details of the timeline of the NS case raise questions, and there is probably some kind of policy coercion that the “international community” is engaged in.

There is an “inside game” that we don’t see and no doubt GoI is playing it. How well, we can only guess, because it is an “inside game” onlee.

My complaint is that the “outside game” — communicating with public, having a credible narrative etc. is equally, if not more, important, and here the BJP / GoI is showing rank incompetence & amateurishness.

Makes me worry that, if this is the standard of their playing ability, whether I have reason to believe their “inside game” is good.

[Zynda]

One of the reasons M Parrikar was effective as Def Min, probably has to do with his engineering background. He was able to appreciate strength & limitations of domestic MIC and could see the vision of supporting indigenous products and was able to effectively convince forces to go ahead with domestic products. Same could be said with current MEA...Dr.JS is a career diplomat and hence is able to steer MEA ship effectively. Amit Shah has been a disappointment as HM...AFAIK he is a good election strategist & a good party leader...I think a person with a more law & order background would be suitable for such an important post (given the recent trend of BIF adopting protests+violence model)...Anyways, with just another 2 more years to go in the current term, I doubt there will be another cabinet shuffle.

[SRajesh]

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the sinhalese and pakis are already in a grave economic crisis, having dug their own graves and the beedis are next in line
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Govt defers employees' foreign tours, less important projects

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Chetakji
Add Nepal/Afghanistan and Myanmar to that list as well.
SAARC is dead unless we lying down and feed like proverbial animal with two milk lines and 12 teats
And so is BIMSTEC
The need of the hour is probably CAA to stop the unwashed hoards descending down
There is a line in novel called 'CARAVAN' where the author describes (or rather puts words into Mo of ghanzni's mouth): India is like a tethered cow for me to go down and milk it whenever I want!!
We are like that onleee
Waiting for the next Aryan Invasion of the Abrahamic variety

[Cyrano]

^^
Cyranoji
At this rate BJP will have pusillanimous spokesperson fending they rabid BIFs/Jihadis/Nxa/Commies
People will rebel and vote out the present dispensation unless there is course correction
I always felt that NaMo is going to spring a surprise for 2024 : either he will lead and retire after a year or will have Bulldozer Baba as a standing in with him for the 2024 elections

The sense of disappointment bordering on feeling betrayed is very wide spread across all strata of Hindu samaaj after the Nupur Sharma incident. I'm in India right now and I can see it.

The message to BJP is clear: Sudhar jao ya Ghar jao.

[KLNMurthy]

^^
Cyranoji
At this rate BJP will have pusillanimous spokesperson fending they rabid BIFs/Jihadis/Nxa/Commies
People will rebel and vote out the present dispensation unless there is course correction
I always felt that NaMo is going to spring a surprise for 2024 : either he will lead and retire after a year or will have Bulldozer Baba as a standing in with him for the 2024 elections

The sense of disappointment bordering on feeling betrayed is very wide spread across all strata of Hindu samaaj after the Nupur Sharma incident. I'm in India right now and I can see it.

The message to BJP is clear: Sudhar jao ya Ghar jao.

There is something called “iron fist in velvet glove” strategy.

My dream response for Nupur Sharma to the provocation in that TV debate would have been:

“Sir/Madam, before you speak further on this, as the BJP spokesperson let me tell you that my party, and our government is committed to respect for all religions including Hinduism. We alre also for a full accounting of religious persecution and atrocities in our history. We will support all impartial legal action to enforce that respect, and won’t allow a veto on that from anyone whatsoever. And nobody should even think of undermining the rule of law with public disorder.”

If I can come up with a vague & threatening response like that, then NS whose job it was, should have been able to give a stronger, more polished but polite response. I appreciate that she is a victim & under threat, but can’t excuse incompetence.

[KLNMurthy]

^^
Cyranoji
At this rate BJP will have pusillanimous spokesperson fending they rabid BIFs/Jihadis/Nxa/Commies
People will rebel and vote out the present dispensation unless there is course correction
I always felt that NaMo is going to spring a surprise for 2024 : either he will lead and retire after a year or will have Bulldozer Baba as a standing in with him for the 2024 elections

The sense of disappointment bordering on feeling betrayed is very wide spread across all strata of Hindu samaaj after the Nupur Sharma incident. I'm in India right now and I can see it.

The message to BJP is clear: Sudhar jao ya Ghar jao.

So, if (as is likely) BJP won’t sudharofy, do you think Hindu samaj will “punish” them by bringing someone else (who? Pappu? KCR? Stalin? Owaisi?) in the next election? What are the options they will be pursuing?

The thing is, BJP has treated Hindu samaj as disempowered “passengers” & vote banks instead of partners, and Hindu samaj lives up to that.

After 8 years we can say that BJP & Modi have managed to raise Hindu expectations in a vague way, but never bothered to give any shape or guidance or roadmap for those expectations.

That’s like the Congress’s old “garibi hatao” slogan & expectation, which they never had any intention of acting upon. Now the stakes are far higher & the cost of this casual approach is going to be higher for the country.

[Cyrano]

Exactly, KLNM garu. The only argument left for BJP is to say whoever else will be worse than us. And they are counting on Hindu majority buying it.

As a telugu saying goes, BJP attitude is like a man cutting off his tongue trying to put balm on his epiglottis.

[Zynda]

Hats off to Rana Ayyub...she has shown one can make it in this world with deceit & fraud (ref: someone has cross referenced her Tweet & Instagram photo...she is tweeting victimhood for her community while having a relaxing tanning session by a pool)...5 star activist lifestyle while giving optics of fighting for the common IM! Hope her community people see her for the fraud she is...

[vijayk]

[KLNMurthy]

Exactly, KLNM garu. The only argument left for BJP is to say whoever else will be worse than us. And they are counting on Hindu majority buying it.

As a telugu saying goes, BJP attitude is like a man cutting off his tongue trying to put balm on his epiglottis.

Unfortunately it is not just the BJP argument, it is also reality.

Back in 2014 after the Modi win I said on BRF that modi sarkar can only give Hindus some cover for establishing their own political ecosystem. But Modi himself won’t establish such an ecosystem. Words to that effect.

After 8 years, the best I can say is that there may be stirrings of a Hindu ecosystem and it will take much longer for anything like that to develop organically.

So, the effort to develop a Hindu ecosystem should be deliberate & organized and not be left up to organic process of human history.

To date I am seeing only scattered efforts to organize an ecosystem. It’s a start but has to get to the next level soon.

[Cyrano]

People are beginning to feel NaMo has done lot of heavy lifting and has perhaps maxed out. Time for NaMo's vanaprastha with lots of respect and gratitude, and it's time for next generation to take it forward.

No other politician in BJP can come close to Yogi in terms of popular support for 2024. Not Gadkari, not AS, we can't move Dr SJ.

My ideal next govt :
Yogi PM
Dr S J EAM
Hemanta - Home
Nirmala S - Finance
Rijuju - Défense
Gadkari - Gati Shakti (Transport, Power, Energy)
Goel - Commerce & Trade
Smriti I - health & HRD
Tej Surya - Education, Culture
Who?? - Constitution, Law and institutional reform.
others we can think about later

Modi can be Raja Guru

May be it's too early and 2 years is a lot of time.... But this is how I see things now

[vijayk]

Exactly, KLNM garu. The only argument left for BJP is to say whoever else will be worse than us. And they are counting on Hindu majority buying it.

As a telugu saying goes, BJP attitude is like a man cutting off his tongue trying to put balm on his epiglottis.

Unfortunately it is not just the BJP argument, it is also reality.

Back in 2014 after the Modi win I said on BRF that modi sarkar can only give Hindus some cover for establishing their own political ecosystem. But Modi himself won’t establish such an ecosystem. Words to that effect.

After 8 years, the best I can say is that there may be stirrings of a Hindu ecosystem and it will take much longer for anything like that to develop organically.

So, the effort to develop a Hindu ecosystem should be deliberate & organized and not be left up to organic process of human history.

To date I am seeing only scattered efforts to organize an ecosystem. It’s a start but has to get to the next level soon.

they are not providing good framework with police/education/judicial reforms. They don't need to be partial but just eliminate anti-Hindu bias, remove biased laws and force reforms.

[KLNMurthy]

…

they are not providing good framework with police/education/judicial reforms. They don't need to be partial but just eliminate anti-Hindu bias, remove biased laws and force reforms.

Hindu orgs could create pressure on govt to change curicula. Government needs political incentive and democratic cover to make big changes.

[KLNMurthy]

People are beginning to feel NaMo has done lot of heavy lifting and has perhaps maxed out. Time for NaMo's vanaprastha with lots of respect and gratitude, and it's time for next generation to take it forward.

No other politician in BJP can come close to Yogi in terms of popular support for 2024. Not Gadkari, not AS, we can't move Dr SJ.

My ideal next govt :
Yogi PM
Dr S J EAM
Hemanta - Home
Nirmala S - Finance
Rijuju - Défense
Gadkari - Gati Shakti (Transport, Power, Energy)
Goel - Commerce & Trade
Smriti I - health & HRD
Tej Surya - Education, Culture
Who?? - Constitution, Law and institutional reform.
others we can think about later

Modi can be Raja Guru

May be it's too early and 2 years is a lot of time.... But this is how I see things now

I would also consider bringing Annamalai. Also Gen. Hasnain and Amb. Akbaruddin somewhere in either foreign affairs or defense. Hasnain could take on the challenge of national integration / domestic defense based on his military experience.

And Sai Deepak to spearhead judicial and administrative reforms.

[Rudradev]

Hindu orgs could create pressure on govt to change curicula. Government needs political incentive and democratic cover to make big changes.

One issue is that-- outside the Sangh and its affiliates-- there are NO Hindu orgs doing anything on a more-than-micro-local scale.

At first sight, Isha Foundation and Art of Living appear to be working on a larger scale than the micro-local; but their appeal is very much to the metropolitan educated elite, and their political stances are studiedly neutral. Not trying to knock them, they do good work in certain spheres, but they are no substitute for a national network of Hindu organizations outside the Sangh.

There are many, many things that could be done. We complain about the Right to Education Act-- the notion that while Muslim and Christian bodies can operate schools without fulfilling the requirements of RTE (reservations, performance benchmarks, curricula etc), Hindu bodies are forced to comply with RTE, making it impossible for them to operate schools.

There is an easy way around this. The "Exceptions" under RTE cover not just religious minorities, but also linguistic minorities in any given state. So for example if a Gujarati opens a school in Tamil Nadu, or a Kannadiga opens a school in Assam, they can claim linguistic minority status and thus enjoy the same exceptions under RTE that Muslims or Christians do.

So one efficient workaround to the RTE issue would be this. A national-level Hindu organization, behind the scenes, should evolve a 100% Hindutvavadi curriculum: excellent STEM training, plus culture/history/social studies and literature exclusively in line with the Hindu world view.

The organization would then work through cutouts of minority linguistic groups to set up schools in Tier 1,2, and 3 cities across the country. Each individual school would be run by a trust nominally dedicated to preserving the culture and language of some linguistic minority in that particular state; and would in fact have one or two (perhaps optional) classes in its curriculum to justify this. For example the Gujarati school in Coimbatore would have the option of one conversational-Gujarati class.

But the primary purpose of ALL these schools would be to teach the 100% Hindutvavadi curriculum designed at a central level, and give the Muslim and particularly Christian schools a run for their money. The Hindu organization at the center would be responsible for coordinating the curriculum and its implementations across all these supposed 'linguistic minority' schools which have no obligation to the RTE's restrictions.

Hindus would rather waste time complaining about "Why Hasn't BJP Removed RTE" or "Why didn't Javdekar change the NCERT textbooks" (on forums like this) rather than actually pursuing what is a relatively straightforward workaround. In the meantime, another generation of Hindus is halfway through school getting a sickular education. Meanwhile, Muslim and Christian organizations seek out and exploit these sorts of legal backdoors all the time, in every sphere of social or economic activity.

The advantage of a BJP government is, as you say-- that at least the governing ecosystem itself isn't geared and actively empowered to destroy Sanatan Dharma. That's all.

But of course for the RRR-W, the priority is to complain about BJP's failures to live up to their expectations, rather than getting out of the A/C and actually implementing solutions to Hindu issues with the ways and means available.

[vijayk]

Rajgopal
@rajgopal88

Big Breaking: Allahabad High Court refuses to quash FIR against Alt News co-founder Mohammed Zubair. Says prima facie a case is made out against him. Orders investigation.

I am sure HC/SC will let him go

I think one thing we don't understand is that there is a total collusion of some SC and Bombay/Delhi HC system with political opponents.
They are undermining constitution/executive at every opportunity they get.
Rana gets bail
Jihadis get bail
Farm Bill report suppressed
Illegal BDs/Rohnigyas deporting - Blocked
Azam Khan bail - provided 100 times
Open murders by Mamta - condoned


At every opportunity, they undermine and reduce Govt to undermine the rule of law.

[chetak]

I would also consider bringing Annamalai. Also Gen. Hasnain and Amb. Akbaruddin somewhere in either foreign affairs or defense.

And Sai Deepak to spearhead judicial and administrative reforms.

Really.....

which virus has bitten us.

don't we have enough worthy candidates.

annamalai is making headway in a crucial state. There is NO replacement for him

sai deepak will refuse outright. He has better value outside of the system

[SRajesh]

^^Rajiv Pratap Rudy should be moved to Centre
AS to be Party President and full time Poll Strategist for BJP
Is Annamalai ex IAS/IPS, he should be given something where the Baboos make too many buboos and delays projects