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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 26 Aug 2025 19:33
by drnayar
chetak wrote: 25 Aug 2025 18:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uA60KPfXQ ................... ......... pls use this link to access the video


US Stuns India: Washington Claims Control of RBI Dollars - Global OUTRAGE Erupts!


[youtube]9-uA60KPfXQ[/youtube



b][color=#FF0000In a stunning move, U.S. officials demanded that India must seek permission to use its own RBI foreign reserves, sparking a wave of anger across New Delhi.

Peter Navarro’s claim that Indian-held dollars “belong” to America has ignited outrage, with former Indian Foreign Secretary Kanval Sibal hitting back hard.

This controversy has exposed how Washington uses the dollar as a weapon, drawing comparisons to Cold War tactics against Germany. But India, now the world’s fourth-largest economy, refuses to bow.[/color]

– In this video we analyze:
– Why the U.S. is pressuring India over its dollar reserves
– How India’s counterattack exposes American hypocrisy
– The global economic risks if nations reject dollar dominance[/b]

Going through video..Washington threatening tech and military supplies now ?!! great.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 26 Aug 2025 21:20
by A_Gupta
As one commentator replied to a Pakistani who said nobody stood with India in Op Sindoor: what does “stand by you mean”? All countries agreed that India has the right to defend itself and no one condemned India? Do you expect them to send troops? etc. etc.

Before saying “nobody stands with India” at least define what action you expect them to take.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 26 Aug 2025 21:22
by A_Gupta
> Frazier, who co-leads the India-China Institute at New York's New School, believes India never planned to align itself with the US against China

Giving CENTCOM and the US Pacific Command military logistics and repair support is what?

Do they expect PM Modi to spend his time on Truth Social constantly ranting against China in ALL CAPS?

Selling BrahMos to the Philippines is what?

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 26 Aug 2025 22:47
by A_Gupta
Link to the German article (paywalled) that claims that Modi declined four phone calls from Trump.

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/ ... 53695.html

This is a story from three reporters, based in Washington DC, Singapore and Shanghai. The Singapore reporter is said per the newspaper bio for him, to be working on whether the next century is India’s century.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 26 Aug 2025 23:00
by williams
drnayar wrote: 26 Aug 2025 19:33
chetak wrote: 25 Aug 2025 18:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uA60KPfXQ ................... ......... pls use this link to access the video


US Stuns India: Washington Claims Control of RBI Dollars - Global OUTRAGE Erupts!


[youtube]9-uA60KPfXQ[/youtube



b][color=#FF0000In a stunning move, U.S. officials demanded that India must seek permission to use its own RBI foreign reserves, sparking a wave of anger across New Delhi.

Peter Navarro’s claim that Indian-held dollars “belong” to America has ignited outrage, with former Indian Foreign Secretary Kanval Sibal hitting back hard.

This controversy has exposed how Washington uses the dollar as a weapon, drawing comparisons to Cold War tactics against Germany. But India, now the world’s fourth-largest economy, refuses to bow.[/color]

– In this video we analyze:
– Why the U.S. is pressuring India over its dollar reserves
– How India’s counterattack exposes American hypocrisy
– The global economic risks if nations reject dollar dominance[/b]

Going through video..Washington threatening tech and military supplies now ?!! great.
No need to waste emotional bandwidth here. There is no way for US to enforce how any country uses their reserves unless there is a worldwide consensus. There is a lot India can do to hurt this relationship, but it is not worth it. We need to be patient until the foolishness of this admin's policies starts failing. And I will guarantee, it is going to fail. Economic and geopolitical numbers don't move in days but in quarters and years. As long as our economy does not tank and the tech inflows continue, we just need to stay cool.

Modi Sarkar has used this to start more initiatives to fuel the economy. They would have war gamed various scenarios and have the experience to deal with this sort of tactics. After all we dealt with them in the Nixon, Kissinger days and broke Pakistan into two in 13 days. This is small fry in comparison.

In six months to a year, we would have resolved any key tech or economic dependencies we have with the Americans. Our relationship with other friendlies would have deepened and we will be in a position to strike back hard if need be. I think by then all these childish tantrums will vanish and people will run to us for help. Until then we need to quietly make the moves.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 01:46
by Tanaji
It would seem that even having a trade deal signed with the US does not preclude you from high tariffs:

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/america-first ... ve-1742144

The question then is what is a treaty worth if it gets violated even before the ink is dry?

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 02:36
by chetak
The amrikis may possibly have realigned and reoriented some of their forward postures

They may not see India as part of the Indo Pacific group anymore but as a part of a larger central asian grouping that gives them access to russia, cheen, pak and India, as well as the central asian republics, as that allows the amrikis a much larger and broader canvas to paint on. Beedi and the REE in myanmar are also covered en passant

when gor arrives in India with his special envoy status for South and Central Asian Affairs (needing no senate confirmation), he will act as a de facto ambassador too, taking up the ambassadorial residence and the office, leaving no one in doubt as to his clout. If he crosses redlines, India will freeze him out by declining to deal with him on issues but diplomatic niceties will be followed for chai biskoot type meetings.

He will also push the trade deals that are stalled. The first 8-10 weeks after his arrival will give everyone in the region clarity as to which way the trumpian winds are blowing and what other devious power plays are hidden below.

The amrikis need to break into and subvert the agro and dairy markets in India as this is the fastest way for them to balkanize India

For some time now, there has been a quiet feeling in several of the amriki think tanki circles that they have "lost" India. This tariff thingy has removed all doubts to the contrary. They just couldn't convince India to agree to boots on the ground type of kinetic confrontation with china, in case taiwan was attacked

Their only viable option left is a regime change and that may be very difficult to do in a country like India because of the way it is setup and it's very highly respected, ultranationalist armed forces who are fiercely apolitical but the naam, namak, aur nishan credo is deeply ingrained into the very fibre of these organisations. If such a situation were to come to a pass, they certainly will have a lot to say about it, particularly if it were to manifest as violent street protests and move up the power ladder from there resulting in a beedi like situation

From what many people in India are saying, such an attempt may already be underway by targeting the ECI by power hungry opposition politicos, except that no one has came out on the streets as yet, "seeking justice" and retribution

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 07:05
by jrjrao
Top Secret Exclusive from the WSJ. This is so very Chankian (as per the Paki definition) --- seeking a secret private oil deal with Russia, while outwardly doing, saying, and fulminating the opposite.

Exxon Held Secret Talks With Rosneft About Going Back to Russia

Resuming business in Russia would mark a dramatic rapprochement after Exxon’s messy breakup with Moscow when Putin attacked Ukraine in 2022

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 07:35
by A_Gupta
Tanaji wrote: 27 Aug 2025 01:46 It would seem that even having a trade deal signed with the US does not preclude you from high tariffs:

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/america-first ... ve-1742144

The question then is what is a treaty worth if it gets violated even before the ink is dry?
Trump has not signed any trade deals/treaties, so there never was any ink to dry.
He termss a framework for a trade deal as a trade deal.

(It is like the difference between an Memorandum of Understanding and a Contract.)

This is what a trade deal looks like, and it is a deal or treaty only after it is ratified by the legislatures on both sides.
The text of the UK-India Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) and associated documents.
https://www.gov.uk/government/collectio ... -and-india
In the US, the Senate would have to ratify treaties.

The narrative in the mainstream media and social media is that Trump made quite a few trade deals.
The quiet truth is that Trump has made none. Zero. Nada. Zilch.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 07:43
by putnanja
India & US hold 2+2 talks (defence and foreign affairs)

India, US hold 2+2 Intersessional Dialogue amid tariff tensions
Senior officials of India and the US have discussed bilateral ties in the areas of trade and investment, critical minerals, and energy security, including strengthening civil nuclear cooperation.
...
The Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) said both sides looked forward to increasing defence cooperation, including signing a new 10-year framework for the India-US Major Defence partnership, as well as advancing defence industrial, science, and technology cooperation.
...
"The dialogue concluded with the chairs expressing their appreciation for the productive meeting and eagerness to continue enhancing the breadth and depth of the bilateral relationship in a manner that benefits the people of India and the US," the MEA said in a statement.
...

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 09:03
by uddu
A_Gupta wrote: 26 Aug 2025 22:47 Link to the German article (paywalled) that claims that Modi declined four phone calls from Trump.

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/ ... 53695.html

This is a story from three reporters, based in Washington DC, Singapore and Shanghai. The Singapore reporter is said per the newspaper bio for him, to be working on whether the next century is India’s century.
https://x.com/UnSubtleDesi/status/1960370598846066868
@UnSubtleDesi
This is German propaganda designed to further this narrative - “Modi a bigger megalomaniac than Trump”. It isn’t true. “Journalists” should know better

We are researching CSDS and a lot of the propaganda is directed from Germany. We release that paper in a couple of days

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 09:28
by A_Gupta
I didn’t get that from what I could find. It was more that Trump had calls with other countries’ leaders and then lied about what was accomplished on the calls, and Modi did not want to get into that mess. You might have a better case that it was propaganda to try to get the German government to be less subservient to Trump.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 09:32
by A_Gupta
This older story is relevant to Trump's Op Sindoor fixation. At least, the pattern should seem familiar:
Trump, 79, has fixated on California's water supply and the federal government's supposedly heroic intervention to bolster it--despite local and state officials in California denying that the federal government played any role in providing more water to fight wildfires.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 09:41
by uddu
A_Gupta wrote: 27 Aug 2025 09:28 I didn’t get that from what I could find. It was more that Trump had calls with other countries’ leaders and then lied about what was accomplished on the calls, and Modi did not want to get into that mess. You might have a better case that it was propaganda to try to get the German government to be less subservient to Trump.
When there are issues, opportunists try fishing in troubled waters. Almost all the propaganda newspapers that used to target India during Biden times are writing pro India articles calling out Trump. :D Though with a subtle propaganda of U.S is pushing India towards China narrative.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:30
by Mort Walker
jrjrao wrote: 27 Aug 2025 07:05 Top Secret Exclusive from the WSJ. This is so very Chankian (as per the Paki definition) --- seeking a secret private oil deal with Russia, while outwardly doing, saying, and fulminating the opposite.

Exxon Held Secret Talks With Rosneft About Going Back to Russia

Resuming business in Russia would mark a dramatic rapprochement after Exxon’s messy breakup with Moscow when Putin attacked Ukraine in 2022
Welcome back sir, after a long time.

Trump & the deep state (establishment in both parties) are really upset because 90% of the trade now is happening in Rupee-Ruble, and can clearly see the end of the petrodollar within 5 years. India uses about 6M barrels/day with 2M barrels/day coming from Russia. The US uses 21M and China 15M. India is the 3rd largest oil consumer in the world. I'm less worried about what Trump may do and more about Gandhi-Nehru family should they come to power in some sort of mili-juhli government. That's the real danger of regime change.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 15:14
by A_Gupta
Zelenskyy to visit India after PM invite, dates being finalised: Ukrainian envoy
Ukraine's Ambassador to India Oleksandr Polishch said Kyiv views India as a significant partner in peace negotiations because of its ties with Moscow and urged greater Indian involvement in ending the Russia-Ukraine war

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/u ... 2025-08-25

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 16:19
by ricky_v
i dont know whats stopping the us from getting a permanent base in pak, nepal, bd, mynammar or sl, seems like the situation is ripe for it, these countries should be clamoring to sell of their access to the great satan himself and this time around, the satan is openly interested, yet no word

for the us, india is an unreliable local "ally", so why not make a great deal in the region for perpetuity?

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 21:21
by chetak
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gAPXxR08 ... ture=share


Why Every American Wants to Apologize to India



Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 22:56
by williams
chetak wrote: 27 Aug 2025 21:21 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gAPXxR08 ... ture=share


Why Every American Wants to Apologize to India


Sounds good sir, but it is AI fake. Some one who likes India made it. So to that extend kudos to our tech folks :D

I know many Americans don't like Trump policy and are screaming. However right now, Trump has quite an upper hand. American economy is not tanking that much and inflation has not surged. His immigration policy has big support and what he did for crime in DC also have a lot of fans. So he will get away with whatever he wants to do internationally. He is surrounded by a bunch of people who are lacking in depth on international relations and will follow suit on whatever Trump says. Despite the numbers Indian diaspora is dependent on Trump admin to simply survive. So their voices are not going to change anything.

India has become an easy target for Trump. He is still in reality show mode. He will do anything that will give him public spotlight and he is willing to stretch the truth to gain that spotlight.

On the Indian side, we could have been a lot better if we got our act together early and made ourselves more economically defensible against these external forces. But there is no point in regretting about that right now. In the short term we are going to see job losses in textile, jewelry and fisheries sectors. The big ones will escape but MSME will suffer a lot. GST reform and festival season cannot make up for it in the short term.

Now we need to take these losses and help our people to recover from it. Hopefully Modi Admin learnt a hard lesson and before things go out of hand, they start pressing the right reform buttons to cleanup any structural hurdles to better growth. They need to look at everything, right from capital formation, technology infusion, skilling, raw material availability, market access and logistics. We need to incentivize our MSMEs. They are the risk takers. Big folks are doing good and they will thrive. However, we need to incentivize them to invest more on R&D and collaborate with our universities to improve innovation.

Geopolitically, we need to navigate very very carefully. We cannot trust China and Russia is weak. American's are hard nosed and cannot expect their attitude to change in the next 3 years. Our relationship with other economic power houses need to be robust to simply continue with the growth.

Internally we need to deal with so many Jaichands. We need to cleanup our judiciary and bureaucracy ruthlessly otherwise our civilization will drown .

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 23:15
by Rudradev
This, meanwhile, is most definitely not AI. Please share widely as a US source essentially agreeing 100% with the Indian narrative on Trump & tariffs.


Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 00:16
by S_Madhukar
ricky_v wrote: 27 Aug 2025 16:19 i dont know whats stopping the us from getting a permanent base in pak, nepal, bd, mynammar or sl, seems like the situation is ripe for it, these countries should be clamoring to sell of their access to the great satan himself and this time around, the satan is openly interested, yet no word

for the us, india is an unreliable local "ally", so why not make a great deal in the region for perpetuity?
Habit of letting foreigners get bases in our backyard has been standard for the last 1000 years. This even after we are a relatively free trading economy and offer much to the world. Lack of expeditionary forces is our Achilles heel. At our level of economy a China would have fixed its borders and neighbours by now. Particularly when we are the bad boys as per the Khan

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 00:32
by V_Raman
chetak wrote: 26 Aug 2025 19:08
Mark Frazier argues that "America's approach is failing."

Frazier, who co-leads the India-China Institute at New York's New School, believes India never planned to align itself with the US against China

Why do you Mark Frazier for that? Any BRFite would assert that India would NEVER align with USA against China!!

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 01:37
by Haresh
Modi ‘ignoring’ Trump’s calls after tariffs crisis

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mo ... r-AA1Lh2Tq

Trump tariffs force Indian factories to close

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/t ... r-AA1Lkanc

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 01:46
by Vayutuvan
Rudradev wrote: 27 Aug 2025 23:15 This, meanwhile, is most definitely not AI. Please share widely as a US source essentially agreeing 100% with the Indian narrative on Trump & tariffs.

[youtube...]Zj1dkQo4WcQ[/youtube]
Wow. That is hard hitting. I am not sure why others in the media, especially CNN, NYT, WaPo, and BBC are not giving hell to Trump on this. Probably they are in the Chinese pocket. They also hate "Hindu majority" Bharat.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 02:21
by gakakkad
Haresh wrote: 28 Aug 2025 01:37 Modi ‘ignoring’ Trump’s calls after tariffs crisis

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mo ... r-AA1Lh2Tq

Trump tariffs force Indian factories to close

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/t ... r-AA1Lkanc
won't be surprised if the story is completely made up. especially surat diamond one. also the author is a pakee. there seems to be a lot of made up "pressure" articles about indian factories closing. IIP in July was close to 60 btw.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 05:42
by Amber G.
Amber G. wrote: 25 Aug 2025 04:50 ... Indian colors are routinely displayed in various countries , in similar cases,
Tokyo Skytree, the tallest tower in the world, located in Japanese capital will be lit up in Indian Flag's color on Friday evening, coinciding with PM Modi's visit to the country. Next day, a Yoga session will be organized at the tower

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 10:59
by uddu
"Nuke India", "Kill Trump": Minneapolis Shooter's Chilling Messages On Guns
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/minneap ... os-9171748

Court records show Westman's name was changed from Robert in 2020 because Westman identified as female.

The shooter, Robin Westman, 23, used all three weapons and fired dozens of rounds at the church at the Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis.

"Kill Donald Trump", "kill Trump now", "Israel must fall", and "Burn Israel" were written on the magazines.

"Nuke India" was also written on one of the weapons.

"Where is your God?" and "for the children" were also written on the magazines.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 21:51
by A_Gupta
Zaluzhny Refuses Contact with US Vice President After Zelensky-Trump Dispute
https://mezha.net/eng/bukvy/zaluzhny-re ... p-dispute/

We are told elsewhere that JD Vance wanted Zaluzhny for a regime-change operation in Ukraine.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 23:34
by Vayutuvan
A_Gupta wrote: 28 Aug 2025 21:51 Zaluzhny Refuses Contact with US Vice President After Zelensky-Trump Dispute
https://mezha.net/eng/bukvy/zaluzhny-re ... p-dispute/

We are told elsewhere that JD Vance wanted Zaluzhny for a regime-change operation in Ukraine.
Probably he will meet with JD in secret. That is how these kinds of things work. If he is still recalcitrant, he will be offered a deal he can't refuse.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 00:19
by A_Gupta
https://www.ainvest.com/news/exxon-mobi ... ence-2508/
Exxon Mobil looking to resume its participation in Russia’s Sakhalin gas project.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 01:20
by V_Raman
Zelensky is fast becoming the Prabhakarn of Ukraine - he is fast becoming the stumbling block for peace at this point

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 01:35
by A_Gupta
How much territory should Zelensky cede? Or should he do a Nehruvian “not a blade of grass grows there”?

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 01:41
by vera_k
He should not cede anything.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 03:09
by Rudradev
https://www.theatlantic.com/national-se ... pe/684034/
Trump vowed on the campaign trail to resolve the war in Ukraine within 24 hours of taking office. As the months pass, his administration is learning that Russia’s deep-rooted territorial claims, which in Putin’s mind date back centuries, can’t be settled overnight. But Trump sees a peace deal as central to his legacy as president—and his possible ticket to a Nobel Peace Prize. Efforts are still under way to find venues for a Putin-Zelensky summit, though many believe that the chances of the two leaders meeting without Trump are remote. Options for host cities include Geneva, Ankara, and Riyadh, U.S. officials said.

Trump has privately fumed in recent days that his high-profile attempts at diplomacy have yielded nothing, one senior administration official and one former official who stays in close touch with the White House told us. That irritation has been reinforced by some Russia hawks in the GOP, including Senator Lindsey Graham, a Trump confidant who has urged the president to threaten Russia again with sanctions if it won’t come to the negotiating table. The shape of a possible peace deal, if and when it materializes, remains unclear: The United States has not firmly committed to offering security guarantees for Ukraine, but the Trump administration is considering continuing to share intelligence with the Ukrainians and potentially offering assistance with air defense.

Trump also has directed some frustration at Zelensky and Europe, believing that they are being unrealistic in their demands and need to accept that Ukraine has to lose some territory to end the conflict, the current and ex-officials told us. He is hesitant to commit more U.S. involvement, wary of alienating his MAGA base, and he has ratcheted up his efforts to blame the war on his predecessor, Joe Biden, even seven months into his own presidency.

“He just wants this over,” the senior official told us. “It almost doesn’t matter how.”

While talking to reporters in the Oval Office on Friday, Trump said, “I’m not happy about anything about that war. Nothing.” He suggested that he would decide on a course of action in two weeks—a favorite crutch when he wants to postpone a decision—and has said that there would be “very severe consequences” if Zelensky and Putin did not soon meet. But on Monday he conceded that he did not know if they would, and suggested that he might be ready to walk away from the conflict if it drags on.

“Maybe they will, maybe they won’t,” he said of Putin and Zelensky. “They’d like me to be at the meeting. I said, ‘You guys ought to work it out. It’s between you. It’s not us.

If this is to be believed, Trump is on the verge of deciding that there's nothing more to be milked out of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Neither side will concede anything beyond their stated and irreconcilable positions, and the two leaders are unwilling even to meet for a staged summit that could provide Trump with a much-desired photo opportunity.

In fact, Trump is even getting upset at the continued calls from dedicated anti-Russia players like Lindsey Graham to levy more sanctions against Russia. Meanwhile, the EU leaders seem to have convinced him that they won't back any sort of solution that Putin might have proposed in Alaska.

It's possible this has taxed Trump to the point where he is ready to play up some other story (National Guard deployment in US cities, perhaps?) to distract the public from whatever he is hoping to distract them from. Peace between Ukraine and Russia just doesn't have the same ring of prime-time appeal anymore, and next week's episode of The Circus will probably switch to a different theme altogether.

The important thing is to see what happens when this entire Nobel Prize-Ukraine-Russia story has dropped out of the headlines, which it soon will. My bet is that it will change nothing in terms of continuing sanctions/tariffs against India.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 06:11
by Vayutuvan
RD ji said:
The important thing is to see what happens when this entire Nobel Prize-Ukraine-Russia story has dropped out of the headlines, which it soon will. My bet is that it will change nothing in terms of continuing sanctions/tariffs against India.
I am with you on that. India-US relationship is broken totally at this point. It would not possible to repair it as long as Trump is the POTUS, i.e. 3.5 years. Hopefully India can make deals with others to fill in for what India would be losing with the US - mainly textiles, Gems and Jewelry to whit.

That said, a panelist on Arnab's debate said something interesting. That India protects their own agri industry against imports from any country, not just the US or the West. The other point they haven't made but I made it here before is that the end users of jewelry from India in the US, UK, Australia, and Canada are expat Indians themselves. Most locals neither want nor can afford 22 ct gold jewelry. They are all quite satisfied with inexpensive ersatz faux jewelry.

Now Indian expats in the US will have to make do without jewelry or expensive sarees. I don't think UK, Aus, and Canadian expats from India would have the ability to absorb that production. Our jewelers have to move to simpler designs, lab grown diamonds, and 14 ct/18 ct to make them more attractive even if the prices go up 50% on those.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 06:12
by Vayutuvan
vera_k wrote: 29 Aug 2025 01:41 He should not cede anything.
That is a sure fire way to lose all the land east of dnieper. But we are going OT here.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 06:35
by A_Gupta
@Rudradev, Modi invited Zelensky to India a few days ago, and the invitation was accepted.

What would constitute success of this visit? Basically, why did India extend the invitation to Zelensky at this time?

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 07:03
by SSridhar
Rudradev wrote: 29 Aug 2025 03:09My bet is that it will change nothing in terms of continuing sanctions/tariffs against India.
That's true. Trump's sanctions and his minions' diatribes against India which have taken the form of clownish ridiculuousness, are due entirely to other reasons, nothing to do with UKR which PoTUS/GoTUS is using as merely a convenient toolkit to justify the sanctions, because the real reason cannot be revealed.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 07:07
by pravula
A_Gupta wrote: 29 Aug 2025 06:35 @Rudradev, Modi invited Zelensky to India a few days ago, and the invitation was accepted.

What would constitute success of this visit? Basically, why did India extend the invitation to Zelensky at this time?
India still maintains a good relationship with UKR. The engines for our warships a case in point...

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Aug 2025 07:10
by putnanja
According to speculations, Trump didn't take kindly to Modi saying No to visiting US when Trump invited him to White house on the way back from G7 summit in Canada. Paki army chief was in US at that time. Trump probably wanted to spring a surprise meeting between the two and try to mediate in India-pak issues. Modi said a firm No, which irked him.

It is more of ego from Trump at this time than any rationale about Russia-Ukraine war. As our FM himself pointed out, China imports more oil than India, EU more gas than India. US trade % itself has gone up with Russia. This tarrifs is because India isn't knowtowing to Trump and Trump wants to show his power and satisfy his ego.