The Levant crisis.(Israel,SYRIA,Lebanon,etc)

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^^ISIS is not our typical taliban/pakiban either...These are much more ideologically ruthless, very well funded, trained, and armed, and Syria, as mentioned by Assad, is short on manpower. So, these guys must be leading from front. Although Iran is suffering or has suffered, looking at how this theme is being picked up by usual (suspect) quarters, this needs to be looked at some skepticism. More the stories of Iranian casualties, the lesser will be its negotiation leverage if and when it joins the talks.

Iran to be invited to participate in Syria talks – US - RT.com - Oct 27, 2015

U.S., Basically Willing to Try Anything At This Point, Agrees to Invite Iran to Syria Talks - Oct 27, 2015
Along with Russia, Iran has recently stepped up its involvement in the conflict, contributing hundreds of troops to fight alongside regime forces and Hezbollah fighters against rebels in Northern and Western Syria. The forces have reportedly suffered heavy casualties, including the recent deaths of two senior commanders in the Revolutionary Guards. Iran’s investment in the conflict has been much more substantial in both blood and treasure than the United States, and it certainly has an incentive to try to bring the war to an end. It potentially has the ability to put meaningful pressure on Assad.
Republicans will undoubtedly accuse the administration of another capitulation to Iran, but at this point Obama doesn't seem too concerned about that.
Shiite Combat Casualties Show the Depth of Iran's Involvement in Syria - Aug 03, 2015 {Washington Institute report so take with appropriate amount of salt}
According to open-source data collected from Persian-language accounts of funerals in Iran, 113 Iranian nationals, 121 Afghan nationals, and 20 Pakistani nationals -- all Shiites -- have been killed in combat in Syria since January 2013.
Tellingly, public accounts indicate that all 113 of the Iranian casualties served in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Breaking down the casualties by IRGC branch, 8 served in the IRGC Ground Forces, 8 were identified as members of the Qods Force, and 3 served in the Basij militia; funeral photos and online biographical materials suggest that the remaining 94 were active-duty IRGC members as well, though it is not known in which branch they served.
The Islamic Republic in general, and the IRGC in particular, have invested so much blood and treasure in the war that they no longer believe they can withdraw their support. Arguably, easier access to foreign currency in the wake of the U.S.-led nuclear deal will translate into increased funding for the IRGC's operations in Syria. Looking further ahead, Qods Force efforts to provide Afghan and Pakistani Shiites with combat experience serves as a forewarning of worse times to come for Afghanistan when these fighters return home.
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This is a welcome change of heart by the US. I think it has suddenly woken upto the fact that dousing the Syrian crisis is better than letting it get uncontrollably out of hand. With Iran coming in from the cold,there could be significant strategic gains for the US in the entire region,where at the moment,Russia has taken centre stage. Now this is exactly what the US should do reg. the Afghan War problem.Iy should similarly have no objection to India also being part of the conflict resolution talks. India is the elephant in the room. It has to be given its rightful seat and Pak put in its place.

Iran could join Syria peace talks after US drops longstanding opposition
US reverses course on Iran’s inclusion in talks to end Syrian civil war in diplomatic move that could be crucial to ending four-year conflict
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/o ... eace-talks
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Jhujar wrote:Oil prices will drop only. If Sunni block loose Europe & china market and US is self sufficient , then Arabicstanis will have very few customers left. They will compete dropping prices. India get the decade long breather to fix long term solution for energy security.
U.S. Oil Contango Widest in Five Months as Stockpiles Weigh - Oct 25, 2015
"You are going to see some massive builds coming up," said Tariq Zahir, a New York-based commodity fund manager at Tyche Capital Advisors. "The widening contango is going to encourage more storage and put more pressure on spot prices."
Oil at $50 a barrel is a “gift to the world” as prices should be low enough to spur economic growth, according to Ali Al Mansoori, chairman of the Department of Economic Development in Abu Dhabi. Crude may climb to $60 by the end of next year, he said in an interview Sunday in the capital of the United Arab Emirates, the fourth-largest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.
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even in tikrit the shia militias and their iranian advisers ran into a stalemate once the fight moved into heavily mined core downtown area of the city . to unlock the jam, iranian advisers departed , the enthusiastic shia militia proposal for a human wave was rejected the iraqi army generals and us special forces, guided by regular iraqi army units directed precision airstrikes and other means to get rid of the last diehard nodes of isis holdouts.
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Good Info and pictures on Su-34 ( Click the translate english button top left )

http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-8.html
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Video: Up Close with Russian Mi-24 in Syria via RT

https://www.rt.com/news/319918-syria-mi ... exclusive/
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IS militants airlifted from Syria to Yemen, Saudi Arabia — Syrian army spokesman
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October 27, 20:51 UTC+3

According to the reconnaissance data, on October 26 four planes from Turkey arrived to the airport of the city of Aden (Yemen) with more than 500 IS militants taken from Syria on board
LATAKIA (Syria), October 27. /TASS/. The Islamic State (IS) militants have been airlifted from Syria by Turkish aircraft to save them from Russian airstrikes, spokesman for the Syrian Armed Forces Brigadier General Ali Mayhub said on Tuesday.

"On October 26, according to the reconnaissance data, four planes from Turkey arrived to the airport of the city of Aden (Yemen). Two of them belong to Turkish Airlines, one — to Qatar Airways and one more aircraft owned by an airline of the United Arab Emirates," said the Syrian army spokesman. "There were more than 500 militants of the Islamic State terrorist organization on board, they were taken from Syria to save them from Russian airstrikes," General Mayhub said.

According to him, "the militants were met by officers of the Saudi coalition that took them from the airport in three groups. The first went to the city of Al-Bab in Mandeb province (Yemen), the second — to Marib (Yemen), the third — to the Saudi regions of Jizan and Asir."
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No wonder Turkey and Saudi are making Noise about Russian Bombing hospital in Syria
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Code: Select all

Nenad Jovanovic DracoDoclean 9 hod.
#Syria|n Military Report | Syrian offensive in province #Latakia 10 km to Turkish border

SAA NOW 10 CLICKS FROM TURKISH BORDER !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjvpWvWx0wo

LATEST UPDATE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xArVJ0T3_Ww

Fars News: Jisr (al-shughour)liberated.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0805000645

Fars News: KSA and Turkey collaborate to supply rebelats with Ukrainian SAMs. Russia hd warned them not to.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0805000633
Russia to strike States which provide anti aircraft missiles to rebelsats:
https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports ... ces-report

RUSSIAN FIGHTER JETS HIT TERRORIST POSITIONS IN SOUTHERN SYRIA FOR FIRST TIME -- FNA

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 0805001144

Some hilarious comments from the Guardian on topic of poodle association with master

Guardian commenter David Jongen said,
''Wiggle your toes so we know where to pull you out of America's arse''
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Info map for russian intervention in Syria

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WASHINGTON - Signaling a possible escalation of U.S. military action in the Middle East, Defense Secretary Ash Carter said Tuesday that the United States is retooling its strategy in Iraq and Syria and would conduct unilateral ground raids if needed to target Islamic State extremists.

The U.S. has done special operations raids in Syria and participated in a ground operation to rescue hostages last week in northern Iraq that resulted in the first U.S. combat death in Iraq since 2011. Carter did not say under what circumstances the U.S. might conduct more ground action, but said, "Once we locate them, no target is beyond our reach."

"We won't hold back from supporting capable partners in opportunistic attacks against ISIL, or conducting such missions directly, whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground," Carter said, using an acronym for the militant group.


Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/natio ... p3UXcLX.99
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everything that he says needs to be inverted to reach the truth.

mean-e-while heere is passport id of the captagon prince

https://twitter.com/HoseinMortada/statu ... 8072619008

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Captagon is the brand name of a psychostimulant called Fenethylline. It’s an amphetamine known to be used by militants in Syria and Iraq, in order to give them a chemical boost to fight longer and harder.

In Jordan, Captagon is a recreational drug. It’s used by high-school and university students looking to cheat sleep in exam season, or for a speedy, amphetamine buzz. Users report feeling alert, focused, better able to concentrate.


“Among the elites, you can’t imagine the demand,” a young Jordanian familiar with the recreational drug scene told Middle East Eye.

“People take it at house parties all the time. MDMA is not so popular, but Captagon, we call it ‘crystals’, is huge.”
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/shoot ... KCKkK.dpuf
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the moscow theater chechen gang was also reported to be high on some drugs and listening to heavy metal music by ramstein.

harrowing account by one of the rescued hawija jail hostages
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/28/world ... =true&_r=0
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A small PBS docu showing war ravaged Syria on the one side and hustle bustle of social life (in fear) on the other:

Frontline’s visit to Assad’s Syria reveals surprising contrasts - Oct 27, 2015

excerpt:
What do you worry about?

STUDENT: I worry about my friends. I worry about explosions that happen in our neighborhood. There’s so many.

MARTIN SMITH: Who is doing the explosions?

STUDENT: Terrorists.

MARTIN SMITH: Terrorists. And where are they from? What group?

STUDENT: No one knows that. They’re from the Free Syrian Army or Nusra.

STUDENT: The terrorists have destroyed my future. I don’t have any future now in Syria. They destroyed our life. We were happy people because we live in a safe place. Now we can’t. We’re afraid of every car could bomb now.

MARTIN SMITH: Are we safe here?

STUDENT: No place in Syria is safe, no place, because the American government has given the rebels long-range rockets. They can destroy any place in Syria. We’re not safe in our homes.
Later Martin Smith of PBS gets interviewed by Gwen:
GWEN IFILL: So how do the people that you spoke to view the U.S. involvement, especially against the Islamic State?

MARTIN SMITH: It’s interesting.

A number of people pulled me aside and they would say to me, who do you think supports ISIS? And I would say, well, that’s a complicated question. I know their roots. And they would say, well, it’s the U.S. :idea: And I would say, well, how do you — how do you make that argument?

And they would say, well, if you look at their Humvees, their vehicles, their weapons, their ammunition, it all comes from the United States, so the United States is supporting them.

And I said, well, no, the United States’ weapons were stolen from Mosul when they took over Mosul in Northern Iraq.

But their idea of the United States is extremely distrustful. And, you know, this is a part of the world where conspiracies — where lack of education, in many cases, leads to a lot of wild conspiracy theories. So there is the belief — and they also conflate all their enemies.{ He can say the same about himself and being "educated" that makes him worse than those uneducated}

So, the fact that the United States supports Western-backed, you know, rebels, so-called moderate rebels, and you have ISIS on the other end of the spectrum, they conflate all that together and they call everybody, as the schoolchildren in the clip that you ran termed them, terrorists. They’re all terrorists, in their view.
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Austin wrote:IS militants airlifted from Syria to Yemen, Saudi Arabia — Syrian army spokesman
World
October 27, 20:51 UTC+3

According to the reconnaissance data, on October 26 four planes from Turkey arrived to the airport of the city of Aden (Yemen) with more than 500 IS militants taken from Syria on board
LATAKIA (Syria), October 27. /TASS/. The Islamic State (IS) militants have been airlifted from Syria by Turkish aircraft to save them from Russian airstrikes, spokesman for the Syrian Armed Forces Brigadier General Ali Mayhub said on Tuesday.

"On October 26, according to the reconnaissance data, four planes from Turkey arrived to the airport of the city of Aden (Yemen). Two of them belong to Turkish Airlines, one — to Qatar Airways and one more aircraft owned by an airline of the United Arab Emirates," said the Syrian army spokesman. "There were more than 500 militants of the Islamic State terrorist organization on board, they were taken from Syria to save them from Russian airstrikes," General Mayhub said.

According to him, "the militants were met by officers of the Saudi coalition that took them from the airport in three groups. The first went to the city of Al-Bab in Mandeb province (Yemen), the second — to Marib (Yemen), the third — to the Saudi regions of Jizan and Asir."

So that is why the Saudi was caught shipping captogon drugs for these fellows.
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Very close to Kunduz airlift, when Pakis ran away just as Northern Alliance was closing in around Kunduz. Coincidentally, Taliban (or Pakiban?) has overrun Kunduz this time. Sooner or later, the ISIL terrorists who flew out in 4 planes from Turkey will reappear under some other name.
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Analogy is incorrect. Kunduz airlift was to save the Paki affsars who were out of uniform.
This airlift is to stiffen KSA spine against Houthis who are winning in Yemen.
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'Lots of our officers joined ISIS due to ideology’ – FSA commander to RT - Oct 28, 2015
“But lots of our officers joined Islamic State because of ideology,” Hussam Alawak, a commander of the Free Syrian army, told RT. He added that some extremists from the Islamic State's (IS, formerly known as ISIS/ISIL) branch in Iraq come to FSA centers and “cause trouble for them.”

“They [IS] took lots of people from our army to achieve their goals of expansion, to control oil regions in Syria. They attacked us with very dense fire in the Al-Bab region [Aleppo province, northern Syria], so we had to tactically retreat to other places."
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So that is why the Saudi was caught shipping captogon drugs for these fellows.
Nope.

Captogon is the thing of choice for addicts in SA (yeah!!). It is something that can be made in your kitchen - which is why it is so cheap. Just that it is difficult to make it in SA. But consumption is a different matter.

SA has a Captogon problem ........................ for years.
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Turkey is hitting Kurdish militia on the pretext of preventing them from forming a contiguos state. Since the kurds already control vast portions in Iraq and Syria what special with the crossing of Euphrates?!

Well, once Peshmerga crosses the Euphrates, it gets in position to cut off Turkey from both ISIS and Al Nusra and other terrorists. And that is the real reason. A simple look at the map shows this.
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Analogy is incorrect. Kunduz airlift was to save the Paki affsars who were out of uniform. This airlift is to stiffen KSA spine against Houthis who are winning in Yemen.
Ramana: Why these Noble 500? Perhaps the anal-ogy is all too correct - these may have been Saudi/Paki aphsars too. Note that there are Paki 'shiites' supposedly dying in Syria (Baluchis?) Why not PA sunnis/ LeT serving their masters on the other side? After all, KSA are their sponsors..
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Vamoose, dang commie Arr-Tee Russkies! Let me post some 400% honest reporting for a change, from Fox Noose, no less
Russia has he'ped Eyeran deeliver weapons into Syria twice a day over the past 10 days, western intelligence sources tell Fox News - an unbeatable combination of absolute honest informing absolute credibility.

Those sources say Russian cargo planes transported the weapons. The planes were spotted earlier this month on the tarmac at the Russian air base in Latakia, Syria's primary port city, on a satellite image from 1993 (see photo, there, there, can you doubt that? U can see dem AK-47 WMDs sticking out of dem Russkie airplanes!)

The flights are not registered, and are in breach of two United Nations Security Council resolutions which impose an arms embargo on Iran.
(duh! Arms embargo ON Eyeran ain't violated by Russkies flying them OUT of Eyeran, is it?)

Fox News is told the increased Russian transport of Iranian weapons is being coordinated by Qassem Soulimeini, the head of the Iranian Al-Quds force, as well as President Vladimir Putin and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. An Iranian civilian airline, Mahan Air, is flying military personnel into Syria several times each day from Tehran to Latakia. (So why don't they fly the weapons I wonder..)
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The Associated Press contributed to this report by he'ping FOX noose spell Eyeran and "SulliManey".

Jennifer Griffin currently serves as a national security correspondent (Ooo!!) for FOX News Channel. She joined FNC in October 1999 as a Jerusalem-based correspondent, and is second only to Donald Trump in credibility.
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looking at situation map what is the way out for the FSA/Nusra/Shams in the aleppo area if they lose ?

to the east lies the ISIS, which will slaughter them.

to the west and south lies the SAA/hezbollah who are unlikely to show any mercy

the only way out seems the contiguous turkey border in north...one part is under YPG one part is under rebel control.

same for ISIS if they lose Raqqa and Mosul.

thats why turkey is so keen that kurds do not block the escape and resupply routes to north. ISIS is turkeys strategic depth play against the kurds probably.
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By the same token, the Turkish border should be a turkey-shoot area for the Russian planes and drones, hain? Hope they get enough ordnance there to exceed the US achievement on the road from Kuwait in 91.

From BeeBeeSee:
Meanwhile, Russia said its aircraft had struck 118 "terrorist" targets in Syria over a 24-hour period - a new record - as a result of what its defence ministry said was new intelligence.
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Iraq ‘didn’t ask’ for US ground operations against ISIS - Oct 29, 2015
The Iraqi government never asked for and does not need any US involvement in ground operations against Islamic State terrorists. The eye-opening statement came only a day after the Pentagon promised its partner more ground support if it was required.

“This is an Iraqi affair and the government did not ask the US Department of Defense to be involved in direct operations,” spokesman Sa'ad al-Hadithi told NBC News. “We have enough soldiers on the ground.”
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Nine nations are set to join Friday’s talks on Syria in Vienna, including the United States, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, Qatar, Lebanon and France.
That's 6:3 in favor of terrorists.
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{us,ksa,turkey,france,qatar} vs {russia, iran,lebanon} with egypt sitting on fence(they have supported publicly russia ground action in syria but are beholden to usa & ksa aid to keep them afloat)

out of these ksa is presently in deep s*** and turkey is not too strong either economically and socially. ISIS will gnaw them to the bone and jaguar vein if they get chased out of Raqqa. jihad needs a society to oppress and if not syria or iraq it will be turkey next door.

match kafi najuk position pe hai. like 180/3 in 40 over with 260 to get and 2 good batters left.
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Turkish police raid critical media HQ, shut down live broadcast - Oct 28, 2015
Istanbul police used force on Oct. 28 to enter the headquarters and seize control of media outlets owned by the Koza-İpek Group, dramatically breaking into the main broadcasting room and shutting down two TV stations owned by the group.

The Ankara Chief Public Prosecutor’s Office on Oct. 26 ordered the Koza-İpek Group to be placed under the management of a trustee panel while an investigation is ongoing into the group’s purported ties to the U.S.-based cleric Fetullah Gülen, a former government ally. President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and the Justice and Development Party (AKP) now accuse Gülen of heading a purported illegal organization that Erdoğan believes is trying to topple the Justice and Development Party (AKP) government with followers working as insiders in the police, the judiciary and other state institutions.
Turkish police raid headquarters of company tied to US-based cleric - Oct 28, 2015
A prosecutor has ordered Koza-Ipek Holding placed under the management of a trustee while its ties to the movement led by Pennsylvania resident and moderate Islamic cleric Fethullah Gulen are investigated.

The government has accused Gulen’s movement of trying to destabilize the state and prosecutors have labeled it a terrorist organization.

The move was part of a broad crackdown on Gulen’s supporters that has been underway since December 2013 when prosecutors launched a corruption investigation of government ministers and people close to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Erdogan alleges that the probes were part of an attempted coup.
Confirmation that US interests were in crossfire is when Amnesty International goes rundi rudali.

Amnesty International: İpek media raid ’yet another shocking attack’ on free press in Turkey - Oct 28, 2015
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Singha wrote:{us,ksa,turkey,france,qatar} vs {russia, iran,lebanon} with egypt sitting on fence(they have supported publicly russia ground action in syria but are beholden to usa & ksa aid to keep them afloat)

out of these ksa is presently in deep s*** and turkey is not too strong either economically and socially. ISIS will gnaw them to the bone and jaguar vein if they get chased out of Raqqa. jihad needs a society to oppress and if not syria or iraq it will be turkey next door.

match kafi najuk position pe hai. like 180/3 in 40 over with 260 to get and 2 good batters left.
Turkey has opportunity for hafta wasooli. If russian deal is too sweat,it will probably rethink. That's why there were reports that Turkey may face massive terrorist attacks by Nov01 by ISIS perhaps to bring pressure on Turkey before Vienna conference. As a response, Erdogan is shutting down opponents (US's) mouthpiece media.
Just a perspective.
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It will make a funny headline if egypt were fighting ISIS...It would read something like 'SISI is fighting ISIS'. Folks following news, in say amrika, will go..Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! who is who?

Sisi is of course Phata Abdul Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, Egypt's President.
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Is the US planning a "Mubarak" for the neo-Ottoman Sultan? The Turkish attitude towards Israel changed sometime ago when the Israelis stormed the Turkish relief vessel heading for Gaza. There's heaps of land in Turkey able to house millions of refugees from Syria,wherever.They could be trained/co-opted,part of them perhaps,into joining an anti-Assad mil front,which will be trained and equipped in Turkey,with the aim to carve out of northern Syria an enclave which would then be "recognised" as the legit govt. of Syria,supported by the US,Saudis and co. A willing new Turkish leadership can always be found as the Sultan's ego is gradually antagonising more Turks by the day.Staging a coup or regime change is "par for the course" for the US/CIA.The 20th century was rife with such cases from Mossadegh to Mubarak and Ghadaffi.
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Turkey hosts a group called Syrian National Council that sought to play a role of Syrian govt in exile. It can be made to play that role once again.
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From the right-wing UK "Torygraph" paper. Astonishing to see the about turn.Talk about St.Paul seeing the light on the road to Damascus!
(He saw the "light" on the road,and changed form being a Christian exterminator to one of its most committed believers,who steered nascent Christianity into a "Pauline" direction). If more western leaders also see the light,then the world will be well on its way to exterminating ISIS with a Western/Russian/Iranian coalition to do the business.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -Isil.html
The West should join with Vladimir Putin to defeat Islamic State

The Islamist group – not Syria’s President Assad – poses a direct threat to Britain’s security
The West should join with Putin to defeat Isil Photo: AFP/Getty

Con Coughlin
23 Sep 2015

"Thank goodness for Vladimir Putin” is not a sentiment that you come across very often in these pages. Yet, at a time when the limitations of the West’s futile attempts to defeat Islamic State (Isil) are becoming increasingly clear, Mr Putin’s robust approach could prove to be pivotal in trying to resolve the Syria conflict.

It was a year ago today that American warplanes, together with their coalition partners, launched the military campaign against Isil after it added large swathes of territory in northern Iraq to the fiefdom it had created for itself in Syria.

"If Mr Putin wants to wage war against Isil, we should be prepared to give him our total backing."

But despite the thousands of combat sorties flown during the past 12 months, Isil is in a stronger position today. It holds more territory in Syria and Iraq, has many more fighters, and has even succeeded in exporting its malevolent Islamist brand as far afield as Afghanistan and Libya.

Western hopes of containing the conflict, meanwhile, lie in tatters. Far from keeping Syria’s brutal conflict within the confines of the Arab world, Europe now finds itself struggling to cope with a tidal wave of desperate refugees fleeing the Middle East to seek sanctuary in the West.

One of the main reasons for this abject failure of Western policy is the disinclination of politicians on both sides of the Atlantic to formulate a rational and effective plan for tackling the Isil threat. From the outset, both Barack Obama and David Cameron have declared a preference for waging war by remote control, relying primarily on combat jets and drones to attack Isil targets, with ground involvement being limited to the occasional Special Forces operations.

US military plans to set up drone base in northwest Africa
Barack Obama and David Cameron prefer to wage war by remote control, relying on combat jets and drones Photo: Reuters

Any effort to dislodge Isil on the ground has been left to pro-Western proxies, such as the Free Syrian Army. But, as a recent Congressional inquiry has revealed, this, too, has been – to quote a senior US official – “a complete disaster”.

The Pentagon has only managed to train 54 “vetted” Syrian fighters, despite spending nearly $500 million on a programme that was supposed to prepare and equip a force of around 15,000.

To this unholy mess must be added the deep-rooted confusion that lies within the highest ranks of both the American and British governments over what should be the main objective in Syria: overthrowing the Assad regime, or destroying Isil?

Bashar al-Assad
Should we focus on overthrowing Bashar al-Assad, or defeating Isil? Photo: AP

It now seems clear to me that the West’s incoherent and woefully misjudged response to Isil ranks as the greatest foreign policy disaster of the 21st century, greater even than the invasion of Iraq in 2003 where, whatever you might think about the decision, at least the coalition achieved its main objective of removing Saddam Hussein’s tyrannical regime.

But for too long in Syria our politicians have been caught 'twixt and 'tween as to whether the main effort should be directed against Bashar al-Assad or Isil, which is why Mr Cameron lost the disastrous Commons vote in 2013 over his plans to bomb Assad.

And yet, to judge by George Osborne’s recent comments, the Government still has not learnt its lesson. Earlier this month Mr Osborne, who now seems to have added the role of Foreign Secretary to his ever-expanding political portfolio, suggested Britain’s aim should be to defeat both Assad and Isil at the same time.

With such muddled thinking undermining Whitehall’s ability to mount an effective response to the Syrian crisis, it is hardly surprising that Mr Putin’s altogether more pragmatic approach is attracting attention.

So far as Mr Putin is concerned, Isil, not Assad, constitutes the greater threat, and to this end Russia is now reported to have deployed 28 warplanes to Damascus to support the war effort against Isil.

16 Russian combat aircraft stationed at the Bassel al Assad air base near the Syrian town of Latakia
A satellite photo taken on September 20 shows at least 16 Russian combat aircraft stationed at the Bassel al Assad air base near the Syrian town of Latakia Photo: Stratfor/Reuters

Mr Putin may have other reasons for wanting to keep Mr Assad in power, such as preserving Moscow’s long-standing strategic ties with Damascus. But his no-nonsense approach has brought a much-needed degree of clarity to the Syria debate.

Even John Kerry, the US Secretary of State
, who previously said there could be no peace deal so long as Mr Assad remained in power, has been forced to rethink his position, conceding at the weekend that the Syrian leader’s future should be part of a negotiated settlement of the conflict.

No one doubts the evil that lies at the heart of the Assad regime: the majority of the 220,000 Syrian fatalities during the past four years have died at the hands of regime loyalists, who have used chemical weapons and barrel bombs against their own people.

But whatever his sins – and they are many – Assad does not constitute a threat to the outside world. On that score it is the terrorist fanatics associated with Isil who pose the greater threat, including the hundreds of British-born jihadis who are believed to have returned home after undergoing training in Isil terror camps. If Mr Putin wants to wage war against Isil, therefore, we should be prepared to give him our total backing.
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Amazing footage of Syrian Mi-24 dropping dumb bomb

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=13c_1446038768
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Su-25SM showing good accuracy with level flights and dumb bombs





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This is great insight into refugee crisis. Recommend watching it till the end:

Top Russian Writer Nikolai Starikov Explains Who Is Behind Europe's Refugee Crisis
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A good article on Guided and Unguided bombs used in Syrian conflict , the SVP-24 Navigation/Firecontrol upgrade on Su-24M aircraft allows Unguided Bomb to drop with accuracy of 20-24 meter which has proved very effective in Syria


The bulk of the goals in Syria affected unguided weapons used with high accuracy ( use translator )

http://vpk.name/news/143127_obekt_na_vyilet.html
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Over 80% of asylum seekers in Germany unqualified - report - Oct 29, 2015
Over 80 percent of the asylum seekers recently arrived in Germany have no formal qualifications, and only eight percent have a college degree, local media reported citing research by the country's Federal

Germany (population 80 million) may receive 1.5 million asylum seekers this year alone. It has already accepted more asylum applications than any other European nation, with a number of critics pointing to a high number of uneducated and illiterate people coming to the country.

The Federal Employment Agency has stated that 81 percent of asylum seekers are "without formal qualifications," the Junge Freiheit daily reported, citing a nine-page report entitled "Refugees in Germany: Take responsibility, identify opportunities."

The agency has reportedly calculated that due to the looming asylum crisis there will be at least 400,000 additional welfare recipients in the coming year.

Earlier this year, about 60 German universities offered refugees a chance to attend courses as guest students for free. In the past, asylum seekers had to pay a fee, unaffordable for most of them.

Having become the main destination for refugees fleeing conflict zones in the Middle East and North Africa, Germany has seen a new wave of Islamophobic and anti-migrant violence in recent months. The refugee crisis has driven a wedge between those who support asylum seekers and those strongly against them.
There has been a spike in hate crimes against refugees, with much far-right anger and criticism directed at Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to suspend the Dublin Regulation, which stipulates that migrants and refugees can only claim asylum at a German port of entry.

The migration crisis has given fresh impetus to the PEGIDA movement (Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamization of the Occident), whose activists took to the streets of Dresden earlier this week, in the wake of the latest plan to establish an additional 100,000 places in refugee reception centers in the EU and the Balkans. The demonstration was met by around 1,500 counter-protesters.

The protest on Monday came just one week after thousands of PEGIDA supporters flooded central Dresden to mark the anniversary of the organization’s founding.
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