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Vamsee wrote:Right now Trump/US' credibility is online. So we are most likely see at least aerial attack from US.
*If* US-Iran war escalates, there are 3 important issues that will impact India.
1) Large number of Indians working in Middle East. We need to take care of their safety (Econ-impact)
2) Oil prices will spike & impact us negatively(econ-impact)
3) If US takes help from pak to attack Iran, we can be dead certain that pak will ask for its pound of flesh(military equipment + baksheesh money) which US will pay. This will have a negative impact on us (strategic).


--Vamsee

Vamsee wrote:Right now Trump/US' credibility is online. So we are most likely see at least aerial attack from US.
*If* US-Iran war escalates, there are 3 important issues that will impact India.
1) Large number of Indians working in Middle East. We need to take care of their safety (Econ-impact)
2) Oil prices will spike & impact us negatively(econ-impact)
3) If US takes help from pak to attack Iran, we can be dead certain that pak will ask for its pound of flesh(military equipment + baksheesh money) which US will pay. This will have a negative impact on us (strategic).


--Vamsee

another volley of missile strikes on a number of American facilities in Iraq, according to the semi-official Tasnim news agency. The new round of missiles follows the first by just over an hour.
“A few minutes ago [3:30 am local time] the second wave of Iranian missile attacks on the US base is launched,” the news outlet reported.
The Pentagon confirmed earlier on Tuesday that “more than a dozen” Iranian ballistic missiles had been fired on US bases, including the Al-Asad airbase in western Iraq, vowing to “take necessary measures” to protect American personnel in the region.

ramana wrote:And those bases were attacked with Al-Asad missiles from 600km away. No rockets.

One request. Please mire data less opinion as situation develops.

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Parthiban Shanmugam @hollywoodcurry
#Breaking: Semi-official Fars news agency in #Iran claims that the rocket attack at Al Assad was an "Iranian six missile attack" (6:03 p.m. ET 1/7/20) Ayn al Asad is an Iraqi Armed Forces and United States armed forces air base located in Anbar province of western #Iraq.

Vamsee wrote:A third military base at Taji as been hit by Iranian missiles.

Iran could conduct missile strikes against U.S. bases in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates or against oil facilities in the Gulf. The accuracy of Iran’s missile strikes on the Abqaiq oil facility in September took the United States and the rest of the world by surprise, although Iran did purposefully attempt to keep the attack limited and symbolic. In the current climate, Iran could choose to become much more aggressive, calculating that in the arena of missile strikes it has been highly successful in landing blows while avoiding retaliation over the past six months.

ArjunPandit wrote:does that impact flights to Pakistan, India or SE Asia. Incidentally I am flying this sunday to des...

ramana wrote:brar_w Per Twitter reports US already in air.

2 hr 45 min ago
Pompeo orders diplomats not to meet with Iranian opposition groups amid tensions
From CNN's Kylie Atwood

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo sent a cable to all US missions overseas ordering diplomats not to meet Iranian opposition groups without specific approval because it could undermine the Trump administration’s diplomatic efforts with the Iranian regime, according to a copy of the cable that CNN obtained.
“Many exiled Iranian opposition groups try to engage U.S. officials regularly to gain at least the appearance of tacit support and enhance their visibility and clout. Direct U.S. government engagement with these groups could prove counterproductive to our policy goal of seeking a comprehensive deal with the Iranian regime that addresses its destabilizing behavior,” Pompeo wrote in the cable.
The cable was first reported by Bloomberg.
The cable lists a number of Iranian opposition groups, including Mujahedeen-e-Khalq (MEK) and five other Iranian opposition groups which are off limits without specific approval. John Bolton, President Trump’s former national security adviser, has previously said the MEK is a “viable opposition” to the current Iranian regime. {US needs to stick Bolton in a canister and use him as a missile.}
Last month, Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney, met with Iranian opposition groups that are linked to the MEK. Bolton and Giuliani have also given paid speeches on the group’s behalf. During one of those speeches last year, Giuliani called for regime change in Iran.
The MEK, which was previously on a US terrorism list, paid Bolton to give speeches on its behalf and once employed Giuliani.
Pompeo warned that it would be “counterproductive” to engage these groups. He said that some of them have a history of using violence to achieve political objectives and that some of them seem to overthrow the Iranian regime.
Given the escalating tension with Iran in the wake of the strike which killed Qasem Soleimani, the cable sent a clear message that the Trump administration wants to avoid the perception that they are conspiring with groups to push for regime change.
In recent days, Trump administration officials have not laid out any specific steps they are taking to engage in diplomacy with Iran, though they have said that they are willing to do so. Iran, over the last year, has not acted upon any of Trump’s comments saying that he is willing to meet Iranian leadership.
In the cable, Pompeo cited the administration’s willingness to seek a “comprehensive deal” with Iran that covers a range of Iranian activities including “its destabilizing behavior, including its nuclear program, missile program, support for terrorism, and malign regional behavior.”
The State Department has not replied to a request for comment.

US F-35s seen taking of from United Arab Emirates
#Iran reportedly warns the #UAE will be attacked if American aircraft from there strike Iran
https://news.antiwar.com/2020/01/07/ira ... tern-iraq/

NRao wrote:https://twitter.com/Antiwarcom/status/1 ... 9858526209

US F-35s seen taking of from United Arab Emirates
#Iran reportedly warns the #UAE will be attacked if American aircraft from there strike Iran
https://news.antiwar.com/2020/01/07/ira ... tern-iraq/

ArjunPandit wrote:

NRao wrote:https://twitter.com/Antiwarcom/status/1 ... 9858526209

now that will send a lot of indians back home..iran knows that its going down under..it might as well take everything and everyone down..

This is the last time I tell you the truth.

NRao wrote:It looks like an Iranian response for their people's consumption.

brar_w wrote:

NRao wrote:It looks like an Iranian response for their people's consumption.

But how do they spin that narrative (if indeed the current reports are true) and declare victory (then de-escalate). We avenged QS by launching more than a dozen Ballistic and Cruise Missiles at Iraqi air-bases and ended up killing X number of Iraqi soldiers and not harming a single US soldier?

NRao wrote:It looks like an Iranian response for their people's consumption.

WH confirms that Trump will not hold a presser or address the nation.

So, looks like things should die down.

NRao wrote: Pentagon claims a "dozen" missiles (so 10 on Al-Asad).

John wrote: (I suspect the attack missed or were shot down)

John wrote:

NRao wrote:It looks like an Iranian response for their people's consumption.

WH confirms that Trump will not hold a presser or address the nation.

So, looks like things should die down.

They wanted to inflict casualty (I suspect the attack missed or were shot down) if it was for show they would have just used the militia to lob their truck mounted Katyusha which I suspect is what Qassem was planning.

John wrote:

ArjunPandit wrote: now that will send a lot of indians back home..iran knows that its going down under..it might as well take everything and everyone down..

Iran won’t pick a fight with UAE a lot of pro Iranian sentiment there and they know to help funnel money to Tehran.

brar_w wrote:By what? There is no indication of anything at those bases, on the US side, beyond CRAM/CIWS systems (unless they deployed a battalion sized Air-Defense force without anyone noticing). While those could hypothetically do some damage on cruise missiles they aren't going to be shooting down TBM's. Iraq has no credible SAM footprint. They could have been flying F-15 oribts but it is unlikely unless they had very specific intel.

John wrote:

brar_w wrote:By what? There is no indication of anything at those bases, on the US side, beyond CRAM/CIWS systems (unless they deployed a battalion sized Air-Defense force without anyone noticing). While those could hypothetically do some damage on cruise missiles they aren't going to be shooting down TBM's. Iraq has no credible SAM footprint. They could have been flying F-15 oribts but it is unlikely unless they had very specific intel.

Thought they might mixed in some drones and CM.
Just confirmed no cruise missiles only 500 km ranged BM per CNN. Reportedly couple of them landed without exploding outside the base as well.

SBajwa wrote:I think Trump is referring to the city of Qom where Hasan and his family was murdered. The other holy cities for Shia are in Saudi and in Damascus, syria.

ricky_v wrote:The point here is that a national defense was against us in whatever small capacity, not a guerrilla faction. When was the last this happened, rockets fired on us base by another country? That is the slippery slope, what happens next if the swallow this swipe?and how long will they keep on going till they decide enough is enough. Retaliation will come from us and Iran's response to that would be of interest, they are threatening Haifa, Dubai, for attacks if retaliated against.

Iran making threats of mass escalation. To attack more bases in Iraq. To unleash Hezbollah. To unleash shiite militias in Iraq. To attack Israel and Dubai. Making it clear it is ready for a widespead campaign if this escalates further with a US response.

ricky_v wrote:When was the last this happened, rockets fired on us base by another country?

NRao wrote: CBS reporting Esper used "de-escalation".