Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

AjitK · Post by **AjitK** » 24 Feb 2014 20:14

The situation in Bihar and Maharashtra is quite unpredictable. The right alliances and local tie-ups could be decisive for gaining additional 10-15 seats. If the Congress decides to go ahead with an alliance with Lalu, we could see a split in the Muslim vote. Either way, Paswan's votes would provide the BJP with a buffer.

In Maharashtra, there is still no clarity on whether the MNS will contest the elections. Meanwhile, the NCP has managed to bring MPs, MLAs and other local leaders from the Shiv Sena into its fold over the past few months.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 24 Feb 2014 20:15

Muppalla wrote:TRS and Congress pre-poll aliiance likely, merger ruled out

Sources maintain the TRS chief is now insisting on retaining the chief minister’s post in the new state and has agreed to let Congress bag the majority of seats in the Lok Sabha polls while the regional party TRS would get majority of seats in the Assembly polls. “We are insisting also on the regional party maintaing major control of the state as the states develops best under a regional party, “said a senior TRS leader.

The Congress had been banking on bagging 17 of the Lok Sabha seats in the Telangana region in an arrangement with the TRS.

So at the end of the day, congress will likely contest 10 seats in Telangana, TRS - 6, MIM-1. So congress will get 6-7 seats from T in its own kitty, i guess unless TRS gives them all the tuf seats around hyd.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 24 Feb 2014 20:16

AjitK wrote:The situation in Bihar and Maharashtra is quite unpredictable. The right alliances and local tie-ups could be decisive for gaining additional 10-15 seats. If the Congress decides to go ahead with an alliance with Lalu, we could see a split in the Muslim vote. Either way, Paswan's votes would provide the BJP with a buffer.

In Maharashtra, there is still no clarity on whether the MNS will contest the elections. Meanwhile, the NCP has managed to bring MPs, MLAs and other local leaders from the Shiv Sena into its fold over the past few months.

I completely agree, the cadre morale is something BJP can manage even if they dont like paswan. In fact if the local cadre feels that they can win a few extra seats, then why not. The only thing is, BJP should not give their strong seats to paswan. As much as possible, give him seats that BJP will anyway not win.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 24 Feb 2014 20:24

BJP should go solo in Bihar. With 200 plus seats and momentum in their favor there is no need for any more pre poll alliances in the Hindi heartland. If at all they can go for post poll ones.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 24 Feb 2014 20:27

I really hope BJP gets its act together in Assam and TN, two regions where I have strong hopes of BJP breaking new ground. The talks over alliances and the desperation to get DMDK is taking a serious toll on what little cadre there is in TN. Even worse, BJP cadre is outnumbered 10:1 by DMK or AIADMK cadre. If the BJP wants to win in places like Salem, Coimbatore, Tiruchirapally, they had best get cracking soon. I am hearing too many reports of politically illiterate rustic folks asking about NaMo and his symbol, only to be told, `Avanga katchi Tamil Naatula kaadayathu.'. The BJP desperately needs a larger cadre, and they need to strategise thoroughly with their very limited resources. Even with Captain, they are going to be outnumbered by even Congress cadre, leave alone the DMK AIADMK cadres. If they wait for Captain until the last minute, they are going to lose big time. Hitting campaign trail tomorrow without Captain is better than hitting campaign trail in March with him.

In central and upper Assam, BJP cadre is outnumbered 4 to 1, and the political establishment at every level is dominated by Congress. Waiting for AGP (which is dying anyway, but has some useful cadre) may be counterproductive. Also, Assam has probably the best BJP president in recent years, Sarbananda Sonowal (ex AASU, single, non-corrupt, capable). He is getting all AASU leaders from Assam into BJP, but cadre takes time to settle down and work as a unit. If the BJP can get a Bodo ally (BPPF, anyone?), the BJP should be able to sweep the Cong out of Assam. And a strong BJP victory will have huge implications for the coming state elections in 2016. BJP can have a shot at power.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Feb 2014 20:28

Muppalla wrote:TRS and Congress pre-poll aliiance likely, merger ruled out

Sources maintain the TRS chief is now insisting on retaining the chief minister’s post in the new state and has agreed to let Congress bag the majority of seats in the Lok Sabha polls while the regional party TRS would get majority of seats in the Assembly polls. “We are insisting also on the regional party maintaing major control of the state as the states develops best under a regional party, “said a senior TRS leader.

The Congress had been banking on bagging 17 of the Lok Sabha seats in the Telangana region in an arrangement with the TRS.

Didnt KCR promise INC TRS merger if T bill passed, why cant he do this?

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 24 Feb 2014 20:35

harbans wrote:BJP should go solo in Bihar. With 200 plus seats and momentum in their favor there is no need for any more pre poll alliances in the Hindi heartland. If at all they can go for post poll ones.

Harbans ji,

I partially agree. But if you dig into the details, beneath the BJP/Modi wave, you will find a lot of weak links. Bihar is one such state. You can check the average of all the surveys (including some very pro BJP orgs like IBTL). The vote share of Cong+LJP+RJD is almost equal equal to BJP if BJP goes solo. In fact, if we discount IBTL type surveys, the vote share of those 3 parties put together pips BJP by about a 1-1.5% gap. So BJP did a very good thing by getting khuswaha in, with his party, we can dent JDU and get some vote share from Niku. But still the UPA vote share will be close to 33%. So for BJP to sweep bihar (cross 25 seats), they need to break the UPA somehow and that is what they are exactly trying to do.

3 Other points. Notice how all surveys sharply peg down BJP's bihar tally IF UPA alliance goes through in comparison to the BJP tally if the UPA alliance does not go through.

NDA was able to sweep 2009 in Bihar and literally create a whitewash in 2010 state polls only because UPA did not have an alliance in Bihar. So if they go together, things are not great for BJP in bihar (recall the 2004 election in bihar)

How much ever we hate this fact, congress still has 8% vote across bihar (almost evenly in all seats).

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 24 Feb 2014 21:02

Can't recall the link but it is 9 seats for LJP - too many but I agree a UPA alliance will make it tough in Bh. Sarbananda is a very capable leader and should be CM candidate in 2016. AGP is not getting any seats in any of the polls. So not sure if it is a good idea to bring them in - may be only if they agree to be the junior partner and toe the BJP line on immigration. Or perhaps let it die.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 24 Feb 2014 21:28

Supratik wrote:Can't recall the link but it is 9 seats for LJP - too many but I agree a UPA alliance will make it tough in Bh. Sarbananda is a very capable leader and should be CM candidate in 2016. AGP is not getting any seats in any of the polls. So not sure if it is a good idea to bring them in - may be only if they agree to be the junior partner and toe the BJP line on immigration. Or perhaps let it die.

Lets see, my gut feeling is that BJP will not contest anything less than 30 seats in bihar. 3 already gone to khuswaha, paswan will not get anything more than 7 seats at the maximum. And that is if he is allowed to come in, I am pretty sure there will be a groundswell of opposition to him coming into NDA.

One more thing that worries me is that MLA's deserting Lalu are going to JDU (there was a report that BJP turned them away, if thats the case, its good). But overall the last thing that BJP needs is a resurgent JDU (nielsen survey showed that 3% swing from BJP to JDU in a month, though we should take that one data point with a bucket of salt). Any vote JDU gets will be a vote that BJP can potentially get. All the M votes will go to Lalu/cong onlee. Nitish can fool himself all he wants. But at the end of the day, BJP should use every opportunity to restrict his vote share, since all he is getting is BC vote which should be BJP's. If BJP and JDU end up splitting that vote, Lalu will be laughing his way to the bank

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Feb 2014 21:56

niran wrote:stop the press and watch rats abandoning ship live,
13 laloo MLA leaves him for neetish, after rejected by soosheel
modi(not related to NaMo)

Nirna, Its rats swimming to a sinking ship!!!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Feb 2014 22:01

Hari Seldon wrote:

They dont trust IB aaymore?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Feb 2014 22:09

Victor wrote:"Hindu fundamentalist" Modi gets a fifth of the Muslims and a quarter of the Christians votes? Very good news indeed.

According to an old article by Saeed Naqvi, the Ashrafs who are the Muslim elite are about 9% of Indian Musilms.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Feb 2014 22:15

Naidu goes after Kiran Kuma Reddy's project to siphon votes against Congress.

CBN slams KKR move to set up new party

Telugu Desam Party president N Chandrababu Naidu today took potshots at Chief Minister N Kiran Kumar Reddy over the former’s accounted for move to buoy another political gathering in Andhra Pradesh.

“What did he accomplish for the citizens to start a party? What are his accomplishments?” Chandrababu Naidu addressed, alluding to the reports that Kiran Reddy was set to start his own political soon.

Chandrababu Naidu also accused Kiran Reddy of making money. He asserted the fact that while the citizens of the state and the city were affected badly, Kiran Reddy was merely sitting at home clearing off controversial documents and making money.

“What will he do now by setting another party afloat?” said Naidu.

Chandrababu Naidu addressed the TDP members from coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema districts at the TDP headquarters. Telangana Rashtra Samiti (TRS) might unite with the Congress in front of the following races while the YSR Congress might follow suit.

Chandrababu Naidu said that Congress was exclusively answerable for all the ills tormenting the state and the nation. ”The TDP is currently in a position where it can win in both states (Andhra Pradesh and Telangana). Also ours is the main party that can guarantee all-round advancement and progress in the two states,” he affirmed.

Chandrababu Naidu held a comparable gathering with Telangana pioneers on Saturday. With the state set for division soon, the TDP is attracting a technique to re-make itself immovably in both the states by concentrating on an advancement plan.

Reddy had surrendered from his post on February 19 in dissent against the division of Andhra Pradesh and the way the AP Reorganisation Bill was pushed through in Parliament. Representative Narasimhan has required him and his committee from clergymen to proceed in their posts till elective courses of action are made.

News Source: The Republic News Network

OTH hand if it siphons the Jagan votes it might be good. But them Jagan votes are committed voters.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Feb 2014 22:16

Aditya_V wrote:Didnt KCR promise INC TRS merger if T bill passed, why cant he do this?

Still under negotiations. He may still do it but his party don't like it. The T-congress also don't like to work under KCR.

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 24 Feb 2014 22:26

AjitK wrote: I believe he is related to a former bureaucrat. Wasn't he reported to be Chaturvedi's man? There were a series of reports about Chaturvedi's destructive tenure at R&AW.

Yes, thats a great part of it. I am trying to find the stories that appeared in the media on this subject. No success so far..but will keep at it.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Feb 2014 22:26

ramana wrote:
They dont trust IB aaymore?

Nielsen is the official INC survey company. It was huge contract for the company. The things that they vomit out via ABP is different from what the Gandhis get. They are doing job now for over three years.

Every step of Telangana formation has the surveys involved. In addition, if you observe, while Nielsen was putting its 236 for NDA stuff, the very first thing they did was to give AP survey results after the bill was passed. In less than 48 hours you got three survey projecting Jagan sweep on the SA side. The game is same as we BRFites discussed. Get positive vote from T (KCR+INC) and negative vote via YSRC. The ace they used is BJP and if it voted against the bill they would have gone for a kill in T region with no real opposition even to campaign.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 24 Feb 2014 23:01

Muppalla wrote:
ramana wrote:
They dont trust IB aaymore?
Nielsen is the official INC survey company. It was huge contract for the company. The things that they vomit out via ABP is different from what the Gandhis get. They are doing job now for over three years.

Every step of Telangana formation has the surveys involved. In addition, if you observe, while Nielsen was putting its 236 for NDA stuff, the very first thing they did was to give AP survey results after the bill was passed. In less than 48 hours you got three survey projecting Jagan sweep on the SA side. The game is same as we BRFites discussed. Get positive vote from T (KCR+INC) and negative vote via YSRC. The ace they used is BJP and if it voted against the bill they would have gone for a kill in T region with no real opposition even to campaign.

Looks like the west penetrated to granular level in India, thanks to Congress. This is official sanction than secret surveys western agbecies does normally. This on top of EJ avenue to do demographic studies.

They are ready to brainwash subjects called Indians.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 25 Feb 2014 00:18

Muppalla wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Didnt KCR promise INC TRS merger if T bill passed, why cant he do this?
Still under negotiations. He may still do it but his party don't like it. The T-congress also don't like to work under KCR.

Muppalla-ji,
If the CM-giri is given to KCR, won't the Reddies be upset? Can the Congress pacity them with ministries and/or LS tickets? Velama power has been enhanced in T, and I suspect the Reddies will not like it very much.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Feb 2014 00:22

nageshks wrote: Muppalla-ji,
If the CM-giri is given to KCR, won't the Reddies be upset? Can the Congress pacity them with ministries and/or LS tickets? Velama power has been enhanced in T, and I suspect the Reddies will not like it very much.

you will not know that kind of stuff yet. This is a very first election and after the so called freedom movement. So all that may take back seat.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Feb 2014 00:25

ShyamSP wrote: Looks like the west penetrated to granular level in India, thanks to Congress. This is official sanction than secret surveys western agbecies does normally. This on top of EJ avenue to do demographic studies.

They are ready to brainwash subjects called Indians.

I am not going to quote my sources, for at my own risk, I am spitting this out. BJP also contacted Nielsen and asked them if they can do a survey for them. This has nothing to do with EJism. Nielsen has people who were well trained to conduct field/telephonic surveys. They have good statistical models to predict elections. Its as simple as that. Just because they are a foreign company, should i not hire them if they can help me choose candidates better. As regarding penetrating india at a granular level, then you should oppose everything foreign in india right from coke. I am sure coke has better data on India at a granular level than any of theese western survey agencies. In today's world you just cant ban anything and everything. If you want india to sell stuff outside, you need to allow people inside. You can only control them to certain extent. If you start blocking everything, tomorrow Uncle sam will tell you that Tata's market research team cannot do voice of customer study's on American population before selling Nano's here.

Solution is to strengthen our religion and convert back people who have lost their way, you are barking up the wrong tree.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Feb 2014 00:45

muraliravi ji,

I disagree. It is one thing to accept foreign commercial interests in India, quite another to accept political, social and cultural interests.

Foreign presence and funding should be banned in following fields:

- Education in Humanities
- Media
- Survey Agencies
- NGOs
- Religious institutions
- Political parties (of course)

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Feb 2014 01:18

muraliravi,

Surveying anything and everything and decision making everything using foreign surveying companies is a double edged sword. For example:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 566136.cms

44% of voters in India's top metropolises say they will vote AAP for Lok Sabha: TOI poll - That's the message from an opinion poll across the country's eight most populous cities — Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune and Ahmedabad — conducted exclusively for TOI by market research agency IPSOS.

What is IPSOS - have you ever heard of it? Unless you do google like I did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipsos
http://www.ipsos.com/

It is a French based market research company that has global branches and also apparently a branch in India. How can such a company that has global reach can do such a shoddy survey? What is the gain it has? It does not care about its reputation. TOI wanted in a particular way and they back filled the survey to suit the headlines. What id TOI gain? Had it done the survey using some SDRE the punch will not be there. So in summary a massive propaganda was planned to even make AAP a player. Orange revolutions, picking the weaklinks of societies, infiltration into minds are all done using survey agencies. For example a British based survey agency did a survey in Cashmere a few year ago before phappi-jhappi sessions started, and according to the survey some 70% valley folks prefer to be with India. Few Bhushans jumped in and said let us have a plebiscite and come clean. Imagine a AK420 as PM for whatever the coalition is due to various Ammas and Annas and then these Bhushans can pull a string or two. That is how East Timor has become a nation.

So we have to be careful to allow too much of surveying companies to enter our backyards.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Feb 2014 02:05

Muppalla wrote:muraliravi,

Surveying anything and everything and decision making everything using foreign surveying companies is a double edged sword.

RajeshA wrote:muraliravi ji,

I disagree. It is one thing to accept foreign commercial interests in India, quite another to accept political, social and cultural interests.

I agree sir, but all I am saying is that we dont have the systems in place to monitor them to the level we would like to and we lack the clout to completely ban them. Of course, in some years, if we can generate enough economic clout, then we can do certain things. But until then, I am not so sure. At present (even for the next 5 years), the EJ powers have the ability to force these NGO's and survey orgs into India in return for access to their markets. The one card India can play is to close our market to them, but indian public will react very vociferously to that as they have become so used to it. One can ask, why would the west risk trade with India for some data through nielsen (other similar orgs). They will risk it until trade with us becomes significant or we show the balls to shut off our large consumer market to them.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 25 Feb 2014 02:37

muraliravi wrote: Solution is to strengthen our religion and convert back people who have lost their way,......

Amen....err sorry tathastu

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 25 Feb 2014 04:34

"Paswan has remained aloof, beyond the reach of Rashtriya Janata Dal leader Lalu Prasad and the Congress.

“He has deliberately made himself incommunicado,” said an LJP leader. “He is afraid that Congress president Sonia Gandhi might try to win him over.”"

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140225/j ... wvJ5tvoFUE

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Feb 2014 06:05

How can she win him over? She can only threaten now! if he waits till Elections are declared she will have to beg him.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Feb 2014 06:14

So those RJD MLAs quit Lalu Yadav as their seats are ebing offered to Congress?

AjitK · Post by **AjitK** » 25 Feb 2014 06:23

rajithn wrote:
AjitK wrote: I believe he is related to a former bureaucrat. Wasn't he reported to be Chaturvedi's man? There were a series of reports about Chaturvedi's destructive tenure at R&AW.
Yes, thats a great part of it. I am trying to find the stories that appeared in the media on this subject. No success so far..but will keep at it.

I found two articles. If I remember correctly, reports were being published in a paper in the middle-east.
A Spy And His Soup

Chaturvedi’s tenure as RAW chief marked some of the worst years for the country’s external intelligence agency. He had been overlooked for promotion at nearly every stage of his career, but managed, as chief, to sabotage the careers of many Research & Analysis Service (RAS) cadre officers—among them P.V. Kumar, Jayadev Ranade, Ravi Nair and Sharad Kumar—wiping out decades of their collective experience in favour of his protege Sanjiv Tripathi.

Rendezvous with Rationality - Ashok Chaturvedi - Chief R&AW

Ashok Chaturvedi, is related to B.K. Chaturvedi, who was at one time a highly influential bureaucrat and at the time of Ashok Chaturvedi's selection as head of R&AW, B.K. Chaturvedi was cabinet secretary. During his three-year tenure as cabinet secretary, B.K. Chaturvedi became an alternative center of power in New Delhi and had wrestled away the authority of the Prime Minister's Office (PMO).

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 25 Feb 2014 06:46

>>During his three-year tenure as cabinet secretary, B.K. Chaturvedi became an alternative center of power in New Delhi and had wrestled away the authority of the Prime Minister's Office (PMO).

In hindsight, given what we now know of MMS, was Chaturvedi really as bad as he was made out to be?

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 25 Feb 2014 06:58

Jingos! See this and wake unto a good morning. Smell the coffee, inhale and relax.

One day when you have grand kids in a prosperous/independent India, remember who made it happen 2014. He was called Sher of Gujarat then Sher of India

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 25 Feb 2014 09:49

AjitK wrote:I believe he is related to a former bureaucrat. Wasn't he reported to be Chaturvedi's man? There were a series of reports about Chaturvedi's destructive tenure at RAW

Thank you for finding these.

Well, looks like he had huge issues with the termite family. Which in my ledger goes to the credit side. Now this is chaturvedi we are talking about.

Tripathi is still a greatly unknown quantity. I am going to find out more.

Considering that middle eastern newspapers, especially the likes of khaleej times, are as friendly to India as The Nation....all of this could possibly be a hit job against an intelligence honcho who was not toeing the termite queen's line. Middle East newspapers are more CONgi friendly than being friendly to India; the space they give to anti-Modi opinions is huge.

Santosh · Post by **Santosh** » 25 Feb 2014 10:02

IndraD wrote:This is related with Paswan faction joining Modi, RJD know their leader is finished , on their own they are unlikely to win a seat and there is strong BJP wave in UP-Bihar, in fact this could even be engineered from Delhi to prevent onslaught of Modi

As election nears, the stop Modi campaign will move into high gear. We cannot rule out pre-election horse trading where MLAs and MPs from one party move to opposition party to consolidate votes against BJP. The above movement of netas from RJD to Nitish could be part of this Congi game where Nitish hand is being strengthened in certain constituencies to defeat NDA.

habal · Post by **habal** » 25 Feb 2014 12:05

there are some UP ganga-jamuni brahmin types like Chaturvedi etc, who are very destructive on national security. they are totally focussed on destruction of any 'notional' security or strategic relevance to benefit their career or short-term objectives. Also tremendous sense of entitlement, and walk around in Delhi as if they own that place as birthright. Official cars & official everything should be at the disposal of their private use and pleasure.

There are some others who are extremely humble, extremely helpful and are opposite side of the above spectrum, but they now seem to belong to a past era and can't hold a candle to the destructive powers of the former.

Kritavarman · Post by **Kritavarman** » 25 Feb 2014 12:28

AjitK wrote: I believe he is related to a former bureaucrat. Wasn't he reported to be Chaturvedi's man? There were a series of reports about Chaturvedi's destructive tenure at R&AW.

1. http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?264027 - Article on Ashok Chaturvedi

2. http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?270031 - Article on Sanjeev Tripathi

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 25 Feb 2014 13:09

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nandan-N ... 7407568758
he has started his election campaign.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 25 Feb 2014 15:35

BJP still stuck in endless negotiations with PMK, MDMK. And looks like both PMK and MDMK are going to get far more than they are worth - 13-14 seats for DMDK, 10 seats for PMK (way way too high, IMO). BJP, at this rate, will be left with only some 8-9 seats for itself to contest.

http://www.dinamalar.com/news_detail.asp?id=922526

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 25 Feb 2014 15:51

BJP to Muslims: Try us once; we're ready to apologise for 'mistake'

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 25 Feb 2014 16:25

krishnan wrote:
BJP to Muslims: Try us once; we're ready to apologise for 'mistake'

It should be the other way round: Muslims should come to BJP for acceptance, swearing to Allah that they will not burn alive Hindu women and children again.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 25 Feb 2014 17:09

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/bjp-t ... 140225.htm

BJP to Muslims: Try us once; we're ready to apologise for 'mistake'

February 25, 2014

Reaching out to Muslims ahead of the Lok Sabha elections, the Bharatiya Janata Party asked the community to give it a chance and not go by the "propaganda" spread by Congress while promising to stand for equality and apologise for any "mistake" or shortcoming in the past. "Please note that whenever, wherever if there has been any mistake and shortcoming on our part, I assure you that we will apologise to you by bowing our heads," said BJP chief Rajnath Singh while addressing a gathering of Muslims in New Delhi on Tuesday.

Singh said BJP was not against Muslims and the community should not go by the propaganda against it. He asked them to vote for BJP this time for the sake of the nation. "Try us once. We don't come up to your expectations, don't look at us ever again," he said at the event "Modi for PM - Mission 272+ -- role of Muslims" in the national capital. The BJP chief asked the Muslim community not to vote for electing a government but for a strong nation where brotherhood and humanity shall prevail.

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The statement from Rajnath Singh should be read as if it is statement from NaMo and whole of BJP. Islamists must literally ROTFLing.

So IMO, it is time Hinduvaadies forgive BJP-leaders as well as, and also forgive BJP-leaders and relieve them from burden and start looking for alternatives. Because apology is coming for RJB-Devarala and 2002 riots. So can kiss good bye to KJB Devalaya and KV Devalaya. And apology for 2002 riots means a promise that even if there are 10 more Godhara, there wont be any reaction to it. And pls note that the statement from Rajnath Singh is due to Saudi money only, it is NOT muslim vote bank. Muslims wont vote for BJP in 10 life times. So I request Hinduvadies not to blame muslim vote bank and not fall for 15 > 80 maths. Essentially BJP-leaders want support from paid-media which is owned by Saudi money. And so such nonsense statements are coming. Those who want KJB Devalaya, UCC, ending art-370, removal of govt control from temples etc before dec-2014 should look for alternatives. Those who are willing to wait, can wait forever.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 25 Feb 2014 17:19

^^ Boss! BJP knows they will never vote for them. But the goal is to prevent ganging up or consolidation. You have to divide them into multiple secular parties.