Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

subhamoy.das · Post by **subhamoy.das** » 25 Feb 2014 18:13

So BJP now has joined the appeasement bandwagon. What a shame. I wished I had not contributed to their PM fund. I want refund and I will be cheering as they keep on loosing their vote share from here on. Third front and UPA looks much better now. What a shame

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Feb 2014 18:21

Published on Feb 25, 2014
By Dr Praveen Patil
Jharkhand Story Part 2: The Poll Survey

While the OBCs and upper castes (roughly constituting 40% of Jharkhand voters) are solidly behind BJP, even sections of the tribal vote is going to the BJP – Oraons and Mundas have already moved to the BJP (7-9%), while other smaller groups are also now moving towards the party. Thus the entire BJP spectrum of vote is roughly in the 50%+ category which is almost undefeatable in the Indian electoral system.

In the midst of all this, Babulal Marandi is staring at glorious insignificance in a state in which he once had tremendous traction. Almost 70% of Marandi’s (JVM) voters seem to prefer Modi as the next PM, which can potentially turn into a BJP vote by the time elections are held. In fact, Koderma was one of the parliamentary seats in which our survey was conducted and the former CM is floating on thin ice here. It wouldn’t be a surprise if Marandi loses the 2014 MP election and faces political oblivion in the near future.

A combination of RJD-Congress-JMM can at best make a difference in about 4 seats, so BJP is almost assured of a 9 seat haul in the state even in a worst case electoral scenario.

BhairavP · Post by **BhairavP** » 25 Feb 2014 18:21

^Aren't you overreacting a bit? Relax, sip your coffee, and watch the show. (Subhamoy I mean).

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 25 Feb 2014 18:22

"Apologizing for Mistake" is not a Namo initiative one bit. Modi never came even a whisper of an apology to what happened in 2002 despite the enormity of pressure. Now with 220 odd seats BJP alone plus massive momentum building, i doubt he will tell senior party leaders to issue apologies for nothing. Some of these RNS kinds who really had no future and lack vision are getting carried away by the euphoria of NMs and thus BJPs rise. Can expect loose statements from such leaders.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Feb 2014 18:30

Karnataka

Congress - 8
BJP - 17
JD(S) - 3

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Feb 2014 18:31

Telangana may have the only safe seats for the Dynasty!

No state may give Congress double-digit seats - not even Karnataka or Kerala!

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Feb 2014 18:41

I think a clean sweep of seats by NDA may be possible in following states:

- Gujarat
- Rajasthan
- Madhya Pradesh
- Jharkhand
- Uttarkhand
- Himachal Pradesh

Chattisgarh may give 10/11.
Haryana may give 7/10.
UP may give 50/80.
Bihar may give up to 35/40 if LJP party comes on board.

With CBI starting an investigation against Ram Vilas Paswan for some golmaal in Bokaro Steel Plant during his days as Steel Minister, seems likely that he would throw his lot with Modi.

In fact Congress is staring at completely disappearing from the Hindi heartbelt!

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Feb 2014 18:42

I agree that we should not over react, but bear in mind, this is the 2nd faux pass from RNS. 1st was, article 370 and now this, wth is the guy up to?

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 25 Feb 2014 18:45

Mafia don is striking back. As shown in many movies, mafia has no safe exit door.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 25 Feb 2014 18:46

muraliravi wrote:I agree that we should not over react, but bear in mind, this is the 2nd faux pass from RNS. 1st was, article 370 and now this, wth is the guy up to?

Rajnath is positioning himself as the secular alternative to NaMo, after riding the NaMo bandwagon to within striking range. He has 0 abilities in everything, from politics to administration, but he is a master of backstabbing. I believe Kalyan Singh, Babulal Marandi, and many others can testify to his skills of intrigue in back office manoeuvrings. BJP needs a thorough spring cleaning at the top. He plans to stake his claim to PM-ship after making sure that BJP gets 180+, but not 200+.

I wish NaMo forces Rajnath to contest from Ghaziabad, where he has done 0 work, and once he loses, he can be put to pasture along with the useless Vajpayee era `leaders' who still infest the upper echelons of the BJP. `Leaders' who need to be axed include Rajnath (make him fight from Ghaziabad), Jaitley (let him contest against Zero Loss Sibal), Sushma (force her to contest from Khammam against Sumo Renuka), Venkaiah (ask him to contest Nellore - no cushy RS seat for him), and Nitin Gadkari (the least hopeless of the D4, but still, let him win some seat in MH - preferably a hard one). With the clutter and junk removed from the top, BJP should focus on bringing in good administrators to RS (why do we even want SS in Parliament?), and using their expertise in improving the country.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 25 Feb 2014 18:47

kmkraoind wrote:Mafia don is striking back. As shown in many movie, mafia has no safe exit door.

CBI is very useful in politics. Perhaps its only use is in politics. And only to Congress.

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 25 Feb 2014 18:52

subhamoy.das wrote:So BJP now has joined the appeasement bandwagon. What a shame. I wished I had not contributed to their PM fund. I want refund and I will be cheering as they keep on loosing their vote share from here on. Third front and UPA looks much better now. What a shame

Why this extreme reaction to everything?

This is what RNS said, not NaMO. And he did this at an event focused on 'Muslim concerns'. And did you listen to the qualifier RNS said just before he made this statement? He said ' the courts have found that the charges against us for 2002 are beybuniyaad and have thrown it out. What more do you want? You won't accept a court's ruling?'

As another poster said, and I agree: I don't consider this appeasement.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Feb 2014 18:53

Some twitter buzz

Murali Manohar Joshi will fight from Kanpur.
Narendra Damodardas Modi will fight from Varanasi.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 25 Feb 2014 18:56

I agree that we should not over react, but bear in mind, this is the 2nd faux pass from RNS. 1st was, article 370 and now this, wth is the guy up to?

Think we can expect many such slip ups from many top leaders in the BJP. Not all have yet realized NMs vision and scope. Many are plain excited being part of history being made. As Modi rises to a Statesman like position the lesser mortals in their enthu will err. One thing i have noticed is BJP supporters even on SM are fighting back with fact, figures. NM gives them matter (weapons) to fight a legitimate argument and win. That matter is mostly NMs own hard work and vision in Gujarat, his own speeches etc. His record speaks for itself and lets others speak. RNS types will try to behave as statesmanlike as Modi, but they just don't have that in them. Not one leader i have seen with this kind of clarity of approach.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Feb 2014 18:59

nageshks wrote: Rajnath is positioning himself as the secular alternative to NaMo, after riding the NaMo bandwagon to within striking range. He has 0 abilities in everything, from politics to administration, but he is a master of backstabbing. I believe Kalyan Singh, Babulal Marandi, and many others can testify to his skills of intrigue in back office manoeuvrings. BJP needs a thorough spring cleaning at the top. He plans to stake his claim to PM-ship after making sure that BJP gets 180+, but not 200+.

I wish NaMo forces Rajnath to contest from Ghaziabad, where he has done 0 work, and once he loses, he can be put to pasture along with the useless Vajpayee era `leaders' who still infest the upper echelons of the BJP. `Leaders' who need to be axed include Rajnath (make him fight from Ghaziabad), Jaitley (let him contest against Zero Loss Sibal), Sushma (force her to contest from Khammam against Sumo Renuka), Venkaiah (ask him to contest Nellore - no cushy RS seat for him), and Nitin Gadkari (the least hopeless of the D4, but still, let him win some seat in MH - preferably a hard one). With the clutter and junk removed from the top, BJP should focus on bringing in good administrators to RS (why do we even want SS in Parliament?), and using their expertise in improving the country.

Well said Sir. To understand his relationship with Namo better, we need to go back to 2012. I vividly remember (you can still see it on Swapan Dasgupta's tweets) when Swapan said clearly that, Gadkari getting 2nd term as BJP president means, Namo will be confined to Gujarat. Namo was among the people who wanted RNS as BJP president (probably he felt that RNS was lesser evil among all contenders). The events leading to RNS becoming BJP president again will give us an idea as to any possible sabotage (in candidate selection before election) or any games post poll.

As of now RNS is in no mood to contest from ghaziabad, he has almost decided on lucknow (he obviously has something in his mind if he wants to contest from such a high profile seat) and his son is going to fight from Noida (Gautam Buddh Nagar, in fact his son wanted it even easier, he wanted a rajya sabha entry)

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Feb 2014 19:01

harbans wrote:
I agree that we should not over react, but bear in mind, this is the 2nd faux pass from RNS. 1st was, article 370 and now this, wth is the guy up to?
Think we can expect many such slip ups from many top leaders in the BJP. Not all have yet realized NMs vision and scope. Many are plain excited being part of history being made. As Modi rises to a Statesman like position the lesser mortals in their enthu will err. One thing i have noticed is BJP supporters even on SM are fighting back with fact, figures. NM gives them matter (weapons) to fight a legitimate argument and win. That matter is mostly NMs own hard work and vision in Gujarat, his own speeches etc. His record speaks for itself and lets others speak. RNS types will try to behave as statesmanlike as Modi, but they just don't have that in them. Not one leader i have seen with this kind of clarity of approach.

Harbansji, I would not be so worried, if not for a cabal in BJP that sees their own chances of becoming PM if BJP gets below 190 seats. These very scums were the reason why large scale internal sabotage took place in 2009 elections in the malwa corridor and adjoining regions leading to significant losses in Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 25 Feb 2014 19:16

subhamoy.das wrote:So BJP now has joined the appeasement bandwagon. What a shame. I wished I had not contributed to their PM fund. I want refund and I will be cheering as they keep on loosing their vote share from here on. Third front and UPA looks much better now. What a shame

Why is it that people always consider 100 or nothing for BJP but are willing to consider lower standards for other parties.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Feb 2014 19:21

Paul wrote:
subhamoy.das wrote:So BJP now has joined the appeasement bandwagon. What a shame. I wished I had not contributed to their PM fund. I want refund and I will be cheering as they keep on loosing their vote share from here on. Third front and UPA looks much better now. What a shame
Why is it that people always consider 100 or nothing for BJP but are willing to consider lower standards for other parties.

But then, why does BJP always have this habit of committing harakiri near the finish line??

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 25 Feb 2014 19:26

SwamyG wrote:So an election rhetoric is being made into a mountainous takleef.

I think it is time now for coining a new category pseudo-Hindutavaadis (pHV in short). Just like pseudo-seculars cause more harm to secularism, these pHV cause more harm to 'Hindutva'. These pseudos mostly operate at the extreme positions, that require no amount of compromise and living together in harmony.

One can be assertive, and yet be humble and ask for forgiveness. Everything has a time and place.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 25 Feb 2014 19:29

there is no Psuedo-Hindutvadis. There is only secular (or pseudo secular). All these guys pretending here and and shouting Modi this or that, they don't intend to vote for him or will ever vote for him. They pretend saffron when they are thoroughly green!! Why waste time!!

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 25 Feb 2014 19:40

We don't even know if it is RNS or DDM.

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 25 Feb 2014 19:51

Supratik wrote:We don't even know if it is RNS or DDM.

No, RNS did say this. I heard that part of his speech and the sentences he mentioned prior to that.

Something to the effect of and I try to quote: "The courts of this land have cleared us of any misdeeds for 2002. If you cannot accept the courts decision, what more do you want? And if we make any mistakes, let us know. If we have made any mistakes we will bow down and apologise"

This was an event specifically addressed to Muslims. At some venue.

At least this entire section was shown on MSM TV. I can't recall which specific channel. I think it was ABP.

That said, I do believe people like RNS should carefully measure the sentences they utter. MSM media can play this any which way they want. As 'appeasement politics' or 'realisation in the BJP that they made mistakes' and all that cr*p.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 25 Feb 2014 19:55

rajithn wrote:
No, RNS did say this. I heard that part of his speech and the sentences he mentioned prior to that.

Something to the effect of and I try to quote: "The courts of this land have cleared us of any misdeeds for 2002. If you cannot accept the courts decision, what more do you want? And if we make any mistakes, let us know. If we have made any mistakes we will bow down and apologise"

If this is what he said it means something entirely different from what has been suggested here.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 25 Feb 2014 19:57

saravana wrote:Rahul Mehta
Be as it may, am surprised at your 15 > 80 figure. Who is 80? If he trusts that 80 number he wont win even 10 seats

15 > 80 means "muslim vote bank theory".

Since 1999, I have been trying to explain to all that NOT even one leader in India gives a damn about muslim votes as Hindu votes are over 80% and muslim votes are below 15%. The muslim vote bank theory is 15 > 80 maths. The pro-islamist tilt is due to saud money -- either direct cash or media or combination or support of MPs who depend on Saud money. eg ABV sold out in 1999 and LKA sold out in 2002 NOT to get Muslim votes, but because they wanted support of saud funded media, and they wanted supported of Laloo, Nitish, Mulayam, Paswav etc who depend on Saud money

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 25 Feb 2014 20:07

Supratik wrote:
If this is what he said it means something entirely different from what has been suggested here.

But guess what? The MSM is playing it out as RSN prepared to apologise for the 2002 riots!

This is the ABP link to the speech where he says what he is actually supposed to have said:

http://www.abplive.in/video/video_india ... wyxbnn7QpE

1. Our PM candidate is often asked "what is your religion" and he says "Constitution is our Dharm"
2. Vote for the country. Not for any party. Vote to make this country. Not to make a Government.
3. If you have any questions, please ask
4. If we have made any mistakes, we will bow our heads and ask for forgiveness

But prior to this (which was his speech close from what I gathered), he did say "The courts have cleared us of any wrong doing. What more can you ask for? (or what more do you want?)"

So taken in its entirety I don't think this has anything to do with appeasement.

But, sadly, and on expected lines this provided the MSM a wonderful opportunity to play it as they want to.

This is not the first time. Just yesterday, on AajTak TV you should have seen how they played NaMo's speech.

At a speech in UP or Bihar he says " This state has XXXXX thousand passes for Haj and only XXXX gets used. Whereas in Gujarat XXXXX passes are available but XXXXXX applications come in. This shows that muslims are more prosperous in Gujarat. That they can fulfil the needs of going to Haj. Whereas, here the state's muslims are not even able to use the available quota"

On AajTak they played only the FIRST sentence. And the anchor then goes on to deviously tie it to NaMo's unfriendliness to the RoP.

On the one hand, yes, RNS should be careful about what he says and where he says. But on the other hand, MSM can twist anything, and I mean ANYTHING, to push through a particular narrative.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 25 Feb 2014 20:11

Rahul ji, there are a huge number of constituencies in India that have 30%, 40%, 50%, 60% and even 70% and beyond IM populations. Some districts i worked on in this link here: http://vicharprachar.wordpress.com/2013 ... partition/
These districts will have a large number of seats both local and national level. There is a possibility that gerrymandering also has happened in that weightage of these areas is much higher than others wrt populations.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Feb 2014 20:15

Too much of tweets going related to some opinion poll scandal in MSM via some sting. Any insight as I am late to catchup?

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 25 Feb 2014 20:16

Operation Prime Minister.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 25 Feb 2014 20:17

Muppalla wrote:Too much of tweets going related to some opinion poll scandal in MSM via some sting. Any insight as I am late to catchup?

Apparently it's AAP's way of getting back at Timesnow for hostile coverage.

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 25 Feb 2014 20:21

Muppalla wrote:Too much of tweets going related to some opinion poll scandal in MSM via some sting. Any insight as I am late to catchup?

Well, Nielsen and CSDS refused to participate in the interview with the 'sting'ing company stating they were too busy. But the gist is that the 'sting' specialists conducted stings with other survey agencies and found that opinion poll results can be swung by paying money. CVoter and some others are supposed to have fallen into the net.

Considering the CONgis were getting so uncomfortable with these opinion polls, its no wonder one of the so-called media companies did a 'sting' operation. Who are they expecting to convince?

On the one hand, the CBI has been let loose on Paswan within 24 hours of news that he may tie-up with BJP. Immediately thereafter his son goes on national TV and says there are no talks going on with the BJP. And their parliamentary group meeting that was supposed to happen today was cancelled.

On the other, we have a media company conducting a 'stink' attack on agencies that conduct opinion polls.

And last but not the least, we have that Shinde fellow claiming he is using "his" intelligence agency to "quash" sections of the media that are provoking the CONgress.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Feb 2014 20:22

harbans wrote:Rahul ji, there are a huge number of constituencies in India that have 30%, 40%, 50%, 60% and even 70% and beyond IM populations. Some districts i worked on in this link here: http://vicharprachar.wordpress.com/2013 ... partition/
These districts will have a large number of seats both local and national level. There is a possibility that gerrymandering also has happened in that weightage of these areas is much higher than others wrt populations.

Harbans sir, we dont even need to go to that level. The bed rock of Rahul M's theory is that Hindus are not divided and even if they are, it is not divided enough to be lesser than 15. We all very well know that electoral politics does not work like this. There are hindus who vote along with the 15 and there are hindus who vote for 3 other parties. When did this 80 ever vote together to even discuss this.

Anyway, i read your post. India can survive in the long run only and ONLY if, the below 2 things are done (of course doing these 2 are not enuf by any means, but if we dont do the below 2, we are toast)

1. Remove all bangladeshis en masse from India (approx 15-20 million) and either force b'desh to accept them at gun point, or put them all in a inhumane guantanamo type facility in an small island even remote for Andaman and Nicobar. When i mean inhumane, i really mean it

2. Start actively (war footing) converting M's and X's in india back to dharmic fold with real zeal. A team that always intends to draw a test match never wins (that is what we have been doing all the time, only trying defend, ban this ban that). We need to take the battle to their turf.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 25 Feb 2014 20:33

Temptation stings really mean nothing. It is possible to bribe at least someone for what so ever reason in *any* organization. That does not imply the organizations own integrity is at stake. Ideally it would also be possible to bribe every whatsapp employee out of the deal with FB too, or every employee of the Indian Railways or the Lok Pal. Temptations will always exist. Reasonable salaries and good management normally are given so that temptations at that level are taken care of. Basic Maslow any organization. Now if one goes beyond the basic maslow level 2 levels up, any organizations employee can be tempted to do something inappropriate for money. That is a basic that must be understood. All temptation stings reveal is that someone was tempted. Big deal.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 25 Feb 2014 20:36

muraliravi wrote: Harbans sir, we dont even need to go to that level. The bed rock of Rahul M's theory is that Hindus are not divided and even if they are, it is not divided enough to be lesser than 15. We all very well know that electoral politics does not work like this. There are hindus who vote along with the 15 and there are hindus who vote for 3 other parties. When did this 80 ever vote together to even discuss this.

Its not Rahul M , its Rahul Mehta

. Rahul M is imposter, his real name is not "Rahul". He copied my name, though he is an anti-RM-element

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RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Feb 2014 20:46

muraliravi wrote:2. Start actively (war footing) converting M's and X's in india back to dharmic fold with real zeal. A team that always intends to draw a test match never wins (that is what we have been doing all the time, only trying defend, ban this ban that). We need to take the battle to their turf.

If I may say so, that is easier than most like to believe!

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 25 Feb 2014 20:49

2. Start actively (war footing) converting M's and X's in india back to dharmic fold with real zeal. A team that always intends to draw a test match never wins (that is what we have been doing all the time, only trying defend, ban this ban that). We need to take the battle to their turf.

Murali ji, this is the only way out. I doubt it would be possible to deport 15-20 m BDs. Too many issues at stake. Indeed with a lot of effort a few million could be sent back, but even making BD accept them will be a big challenge. Most get Aadhars, ration cards and passports easily. In the link if you see key areas that cut the entire NE off they are upwards of 50-60% in population. And that was in 2001 census! It will be well over 70-80% now.

We have no option but to go by your No 2 solution. Getting people to 1. Call themselves Dharmic. 2. Aligning their next generations with some Dharmic panth/ sampradaya of their choice.

Getting to do the above the best chance we have is getting all Indics a chance to be called Dharmic. That is why in Vicharprachar and also earlier in BRF i prompted folks to write up on a Dharmic constitution. Idea is to get a good constitution based on Dharmic tenet, and get people to at the minimum call themselves Dharmic. Polarize and isolate those that don't believe in the Dharmic tenets laid out. Tens of millions IMO should start at the first basic level associating and calling themselves Dharmic. A successful Dharmic nation of India will set a major example of retaking tens of millions of excluvists. A lot of effort is needed but more importantly the correct vision and stress on constituting a Dharmic republic is needed. My blog addresses political and social issues through the lens of the Dharmic tenet based state. If we don't go for number 2, then we will have a 2nd partition. It's not whether we will have or not, but the time frame we will have one. IMO if nothing done then the process will culiminate within a decade or two max.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 25 Feb 2014 21:00

Rahul Mehta wrote:
saravana wrote:Rahul Mehta
Be as it may, am surprised at your 15 > 80 figure. Who is 80? If he trusts that 80 number he wont win even 10 seats

15 > 80 means "muslim vote bank theory".

Since 1999, I have been trying to explain to all that NOT even one leader in India gives a damn about muslim votes as Hindu votes are over 80% and muslim votes are below 15%. The muslim vote bank theory is 15 > 80 maths. The pro-islamist tilt is due to saud money -- either direct cash or media or combination or support of MPs who depend on Saud money. eg ABV sold out in 1999 and LKA sold out in 2002 NOT to get Muslim votes, but because they wanted support of saud funded media, and they wanted supported of Laloo, Nitish, Mulayam, Paswav etc who depend on Saud money

Rahul Mehta,
I got the 15 > 80 theory. But thanks for clarifying it.
My question was how did the number come about? Do you really think it is consolidated 80? With our electoral system 15 is anyway way larger than small pressure groups adding upto 80. With the 80 group it is typically a pet cause and closest to Hindutva party. (pet cause && hindutva). If the first option fails, there is no evaluating second. Even among "hardcore" cadre there are issues with sidelining Advani, Joshi, followers of Govindacharya etc. Nothing wrong with that obviously, everyone votes with their self interest in mind.
So, I don't know where the fond hopes of 80 springs from. It will be hell freezes over(15 voting for NaMo) than 80 voting for NaMo en bloc. Heck, I hope Election Commission announces the GE dates sooner, before the last of the dharmic guys escape from BJP camp!

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Feb 2014 21:23

India TV reporting:

Rajnath Singh from Lucknow
Modi from Varanasi
MM Joshi From Kanpur
Prakash Javdekar from Pune

and to top it all

Sudhanshu Mittal from Meerut.

Wah bhai, kamaal ki list hai. Of these 5 four are gone. If Sudhanshu Mittal from Meerut and Javdekar from Pune is correct, then I am writing here in bold, BJP WILL NOT GET EVEN 160 SEATS.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 25 Feb 2014 21:25

muraliravi wrote:India TV reporting:

Rajnath Singh from Lucknow
Modi from Varanasi
MM Joshi From Kanpur
Prakash Javdekar from Pune

and to top it all

Sudhanshu Mittal from Meerut.

Wah bhai, kamaal ki list hai. Of these 5 four are gone. If Sudhanshu Mittal from Meerut and Javdekar from Pune is correct, then I am writing here in bold, BJP WILL NOT GET EVEN 160 SEATS.

Modi should break away from the BJP and make his own party. He will get the support of all CMs and useful leaders. Sudanshu Mittals, Rajnath Singhs, Prakash Javadekars can remain in the BJP. Maybe we can have a contest between the remaining BJP and AAP - both of them will hit <10.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Feb 2014 21:31

nageshks wrote:
muraliravi wrote:India TV reporting:

Rajnath Singh from Lucknow
Modi from Varanasi
MM Joshi From Kanpur
Prakash Javdekar from Pune

and to top it all

Sudhanshu Mittal from Meerut.

Wah bhai, kamaal ki list hai. Of these 5 four are gone. If Sudhanshu Mittal from Meerut and Javdekar from Pune is correct, then I am writing here in bold, BJP WILL NOT GET EVEN 160 SEATS.
Modi should break away from the BJP and make his own party. He will get the support of all CMs and useful leaders. Sudanshu Mittals, Rajnath Singhs, Prakash Javadekars can remain in the BJP. Maybe we can have a contest between the remaining BJP and AAP - both of them will hit <10.

Nagesh ji, I can understand RNS and MMJ seats (even though it is hard to justify). I mean after all whether we like it or not, he is the party president and he has to be accommodated if he feels he is losing Ghaziabad and MMJ is an old war horse and probably some RSS old heads are pulling their strings for him. But why on earth should they give seats to Javdekar and Mittal of all people and that too in crucial seats. In fact BJP has a decent sitting MP from Meerut. If they are going to the extent of replacing him with this duffer called mittal (who caused all the problems in 2009). So much sabotage in UP, where Amit Shah is there, I can only imagine what is going on in other states.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 25 Feb 2014 21:42

muraliravi wrote: Nagesh ji, I can understand RNS and MMJ seats (even though it is hard to justify). I mean after all whether we like it or not, he is the party president and he has to be accommodated if he feels he is losing Ghaziabad and MMJ is an old war horse and probably some RSS old heads are pulling their strings for him. But why on earth should they give seats to Javdekar and Mittal of all people and that too in crucial seats. In fact BJP has a decent sitting MP from Meerut. If they are going to the extent of replacing him with this duffer called mittal (who caused all the problems in 2009). So much sabotage in UP, where Amit Shah is there, I can only imagine what is going on in other states.

RNS and MMJ should both be accommodated in RS (MMJ is useful and has good ideas about HRD, and RNS - well he is party president, so he should be in RS). They should leave LS to candidates who have a chance of winning. Sanjay Mahana in Kanpur, Rajendra Agarwal from Meerut, and Laxmikant Bajpai from Lucknow should be fielded. Any idea who can be fielded from Pune? If RNS wants to fight LS desperately, he should fight from Ghaziabad, which is his LS seat.