Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

shyamoo · Post by **shyamoo** » 02 Aug 2013 19:58

Sushupti wrote:Gujaratis who praise Narendra Modi should leave city: Nitesh Rane

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/othe ... 538744.cms

Indians who ~~do not respect~~ fear Modi should also leave the country

member_23658 · Post by **member_23658** » 02 Aug 2013 21:08

Sushupti wrote:Gujaratis who praise Narendra Modi should leave city: Nitesh Rane

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/othe ... 538744.cms

By that logic, Indians who praise Sonia Gandhi should leave the country (for Italy)
And i wonder where Marathis who praise NaMo should go.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 02 Aug 2013 21:36

And chennai wasis who praise T split, should leave TN.

Mumbaikars who praise Modi should go to gujarat..

pakis who praise modi should land in there as well!!!!

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 02 Aug 2013 21:39

Nitesh Rane is a political Berozgaar..

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 02 Aug 2013 21:48

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Tir ... epage=true
what a sad story.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 02 Aug 2013 22:00

SaiK wrote:http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Tir ... epage=true
what a sad story.

How much are they getting paid?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 02 Aug 2013 23:13

how much will you pay them? answer me as a honest indian citizen.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 03 Aug 2013 00:04

SaiK wrote:how much will you pay them? answer me as a honest indian citizen.

Some times it is difficult to express with words.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Aug 2013 01:17

ShyamSP wrote:
SaiK wrote:how much will you pay them? answer me as a honest indian citizen.
Some times it is difficult to express with words.

whose statue is this?

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 03 Aug 2013 01:48

Con race party has 3 statues that are put all over Nehru, Indira and Rajiv. This doesn't look like Nehru or Indira so it must be Rajiv.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 03 Aug 2013 02:00

It is Rajiv

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Aug 2013 02:08

I have been in some 'coaching' training last two days and this quote got me thinking.

"One cannot remain neutral in the presence of strong leadership"

No wonder the dhimmis see NaMo as divisive.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 03 Aug 2013 02:53

Are MG status safe in T/AP?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 03 Aug 2013 03:10

SaiK wrote:how much will you pay them? answer me as a honest indian citizen.

Not enough

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 03 Aug 2013 03:11

SaiK wrote:how much will you pay them? answer me as a honest indian citizen.

No, not as a citizen. As a young Indian

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Aug 2013 03:24

National Interest: Modi-hit
Shekhar Gupta :

Advertising and brand guru Alyque Padamsee has a favourite old line: I do not believe in repositioning my brand, but in forcing my rival to reposition his. Alyque may find it particularly revolting that I borrow his old wisdom to explain the impact of Narendra Modi

against whom he has campaigned with such dedication. So my apologies to him. But the fact is, Modi's appearance on centrestage, and the polarisation it promises, has sent some of the BJP's old rivals scurrying for a share of the Muslim vote. As if there is nothing else left to fight for in 2014.

It's got the Congress making silly statements on issues like the Batla House encounter (doesn't matter if it took place under its own watch). But even more specifically, he has forced Nitish Kumar and Akhilesh Yadav to reset their own politics in response to his. As a consequence, the chief ministers of India's most populous states, who only recently won handsome victories and looked smug, are both looking stranded now.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/natio ... /1150469/0

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 03 Aug 2013 03:38

MG became nobody after Cong(I) was formed , there used to be Subhas Bose statues and MG statues once upon a time now they are foreigners and foreigners have become Indians.
Generally people keep away from Netaji Subhas Bose because he has a sword in hand and riding a (horse) and Gandhi ji is usually having a big lathi in hand

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 03 Aug 2013 03:52

RamaY wrote:I have been in some 'coaching' training last two days and this quote got me thinking.

"One cannot remain neutral in the presence of strong leadership"

No wonder the dhimmis see NaMo as divisive.

link

Krishna: I love everyone, but I am not attached to anyone. I am only attached to dharma. I know that if Yadavs achieve more success, it will neither benefit them nor dharma. Don't think about love narrowly. Love is different from moh or attachment. That is why I say that only those people are suitable to rule others who are not attached to power or luxury. People should rule to establish dharma and they should be willing to sacrifice everything for it. I don't think anyone is more qualified than dharmaraj to handle this responsibility.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Aug 2013 05:11

Modi dips into well of ‘anger’

New Delhi, Aug. 2: Narendra Modi believes the BJP must tap people’s “anger” against the UPA, build on it till next year’s general election, offer “palliatives” and present an “alternative vision” to “the last voter in every poling booth”.

This was his refrain in two strategy sessions he held yesterday — the first with the RSS’s senior office-bearers and the second with the members of the BJP’s central campaign committee that he heads.

The first effort to channel, mould and shape the perceived “anger” at the Centre into something tangible would be a “chargesheet” against the Manmohan Singh government. A four-member sub-panel, headed by Rajya Sabha MP Ravi Shankar Prasad, began working on it today.

Spokesperson and panel member Nirmala Sitharaman said the initiative represented the first such effort to reach out directly to people instead of “just specialists”. Anger, she said, was an overarching sentiment provoked by myriad reasons, some general and some person-specific.

“Our workers have already provided inputs. Now we will travel across the country to engage with people because the reasons for the anger may vary from region to region. Obviously, we cannot enshrine each and every reason in the chargesheet. But the inputs will be collated and put into perspective,” another member said.

Prasad described the mass-contact drive as a “Dialogue with an India that is suffering and is feeling insecure”, and said social networking sites would be tapped.

Although members said they were not working to a deadline, Modi is learnt to have asked for the “chargesheet” to be readied in a month to offer campaigners talking points.

Yesterday’s sessions also discussed another aspect the BJP considers vital to its goal of amassing a “critical mass” of 180-plus Lok Sabha seats.

Most leaders agree that the BJP and its allies are in a serious fight in 356 of the 542 Lok Sabha seats. If Bengal (42), undivided Andhra (42), Tamil Nadu (39) and Kerala (20) are added, the target shoots up by 143.

The four states are practically virgin territories for the BJP. In 1999, when it rode on the crest of the Atal Bihari Vajpayee wave, it picked up two seats in Bengal.

Initially, the view was that rather than direct energies and resources into fanning into uncharted terrain, the BJP should focus on its “core strengths” and maximise the gains there.

But Modi later stressed the party must try to win each and every seat, including those in the north-eastern states. These have been almost inaccessible so far because the ethnic and religious compositions of the region, barring Assam, do not fit into the BJP’s pro-Hindu outlook.

Modi’s message is that BJP workers even in “hostile” states like Mizoram and Manipur must be mobilised to “beef-up booths”. “There may be a lot of enthusiasm for the party but unless voters show up to vote, the enthusiasm is wasted,” a campaign committee member said.

The RSS has directed its affiliates, notably the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and the Bajrang Dal, to mobilise cadres for the 2014 battle. “The Sangh has put its members into action with a now-or-never message of urgency,” a source said.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130803/j ... fxHCOGVuYQ

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Aug 2013 07:12

Asaduddin Owaisi cautions Naidu against tie-up with BJP
Aug 3, 2013, 02.23AM IST TNN

HYDERABAD: Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM) supremo Asaduddin Owaisi on Friday cautioned TDP chief N Chandrababu Naidu against forging an alliance with BJP, as it had done in the past, and predicted that the BJP's decline would begin from Hyderabad.

Addressing a huge crowd of worshippers and party supporters at the Yaum-ul-Quran (the Quran day) gathering at Mecca Masjid, Owaisi said, "Don't go there (to the BJP) and don't come in our way. We know what happened when the cycle made an alliance with the lotus. If you want to face us democratically, then you are welcome to do so. We have never backed down." 'Cycle' clearly referred to TDP and `lotus', the BJP.

Intensifying his anti-BJP rhetoric about a week before Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi's Youth Conclave programme in the city, Owaisi wondered why no cases were booked against BJP's prime ministerial candidate. He said that the BJP could not tear the secular fabric of the city and country.

He drew instances such as the slaying of former parliamentarian Ehsan Jafri and the contentious 'encounter' killing of Ishrat Jahan, both in Gujarat. "The decline of BJP will begin from the secular soil of this city where everybody is free to live. We will fight democratically and within the boundaries of law. We will push them out from here. Muslims should be united to achieve this. The leadership will soon rest on the shoulders of Muslims youth and we will defeat the man who says 'kutte ka bacha' and 'burqa', (to denigrate Muslims)," he said.

Futher, the Hyderabad MP said that many 'T' protagonists were unaware of the contribution of Muslims in Telangana. "Did people know that Mir Osman Ali Khan gave 600 kgs of gold to Lal Bahadur Shastri for the Sino-Indian war several years after merging his state with India. Muslim historians used the word Telangana first for Khan-e-Jahan Telangani who was with Tughlaq," he said.

On the bifurcation of the state, Owaisi said that the MIM's opponents wanted to destroy the party 'somehow or the other'. "When we went all the way to Assam during riots to help people, can we not go to Srikakulam? We will go to every corner of the country," he said.

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/hyderaba ... 564235.cms

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 03 Aug 2013 07:17

Sushupti ji,

I was predicting that Naidu will allow T-TDP to have pre-poll alliance with BJP and told a friend to watch out. MIM comes out with this statement. AP has to and will kill INC.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 03 Aug 2013 07:29

“The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.”
― Dante Alighieri, Inferno

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 03 Aug 2013 08:55

Am hajaar heartened to see Owaisi's trepidation at the possibility of a cycle-lotus tie-up. Means there's more than smoke at work here...

Q for Mr Owaisi's "Don't align" edict should be "else what?".

THe Aug 11 NaMo visit has also raised the tempo in Hyd, seems like. Rest assured the MIM will try to disrupt the event. Its happening at the old LB stadium near Abids (in old city) rather than the new one in Uppal. No doubt the Ap govt played mischief in doing so.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 03 Aug 2013 09:11

This guy needs to be kicked out of the country

Bharatiya Janata Party’s sulking senior leader Lal Krishna Advani took another dig at Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi on Friday. Advani said power makes men egotists and ego is the source of corruption. He also said that the rulers should show confidence in the public.

Advani was the chief guest at the culmination of Dada J P Vaswani’s 95th birthday celebrations in Pune. Speaking at the occasion, he said, “For the last three years, the only issue which is discussed every now and then is corruption. And the source of corruption is ahankar (ego). Those who get a position of power start to think that they have got everything, they have become omniscient and nobody can touch them. But all this is an illusion.”

Referring to his memories of the Great Indian Peninsular railway during his youth, Advani said, “All the things in the train were marked, ‘Stolen from GIP railway’. It showed presupposition that the Indian public would steal them anyway. Even today, I tell others that rulers must show confidence in the public, otherwise they do not get respect.”

Advani appeared to impress his ‘inclusive’ personality when he said that he was educated in an English school run by a Christian institution. “Even today I cannot read or write good Hindi. All the scriptures, from Ramayana and Mahabharata, I read in English,” he said. Since independence, he said, his only dream was that India become an ideal country for all countries of the world.

Advani got a supportive voice from Dada J P Vaswani who said, “When I was in US, I was asked what the biggest challenge before my country was. I replied lack of enough men and women of character, people who are untainted, upright and not swayed by the greed of power was the biggest challenge. But I can very well say that Advani is one leader who has all the traits to lead the country.”

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Aug 2013 09:32

So LKA is in the Nehruvian mold! When he cries is it in English?

That Khan-e-Jahan Telangani was a Telugu convert Yugandhar after Muhammad Tuglaq's defeat of the kakatiyas. This Jahan Khan was friend of Feroz Tughlaq and built Tuglaqabad in Delhi and went on to govern Punjab from Lahore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Maqbul

After the fall of Warangal in 1323, the Kakatiya king Prataparudra and his trusted minister and commander Gannama Nayaka, also known as Yugandhar or Nagaya Ganna, were captured and taken to Delhi.[3] King Prataparudra committed suicide by drowning himself in the river Narmada. Yugandhar was converted to Islam and given the name Malik Maqbul.[4] Harihara Raya and Bukkaraya, treasurers in the court of Warangal were also captured and converted to Islam. Warangal was placed under the control of Burhanuddin, governor of Daulatabad. The rebellion led by Musunuri Prolaya Nayaka resulted in the liberation of large parts of Telugu country in 1326 CE. The full title of Maqbul was "Masnad-i-Aali Ulugh Qutlugh Azam-i-Humayun Khan-i-Jahan Maqbul".[5]....

Malik Maqbul was initially made the governor of Multan and sent to administer Punjab.[6] He ruled Multan as his fief. The rebellion of Musunuri Nayaks in Andhra made the sultan to recall Maqbul and send him to Warangal.[7] He was made the governor of Eastern Telangana, reporting to the Tughlaq's governor of the Deccan, Quwwatuddin. When Warangal was recaptured by Musunuri Kaapanedu, Maqbul fled to Delhi.

So he was no Ashraf as Owaisi is thinking!!!!

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 03 Aug 2013 09:50

that english thing really surprised me , so how the hell did he get along with RSS ???

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Aug 2013 10:07

krishnan wrote:that english thing really surprised me , so how the hell did he get along with RSS ???

Please let me know when you have the answer.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 03 Aug 2013 13:39

The link to the Advani post by Krishnan:

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/advan ... 130802.htm

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 03 Aug 2013 14:06

Rumors that H'khor Akbaruddin Owaisi the Namak Haram is going to give reply to Modi's speech on 17th August. He has been barred from giving pub speeches. That ban is lifted?

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who are the owaisis, their origin? are they convert or import from arab land? who was mohammed pehelwan who attacked this namak haram but unfortunately survived. How strong are they in AP, iirc. (google does not give these answers, hence the query to gurujans)

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 03 Aug 2013 14:26

"The decline of BJP will begin from the secular soil of this city where everybody is free to live.

Coming from the paragons of Secularism the Owaisi's ,well..

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 03 Aug 2013 14:42

Some BG check on owaisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU5cCxfQqec

Attack on Akbaruddin Owaisi (By mohammed pehelwan?) He was hit in stomach, his entrails are weak
Graphic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdiLsTjzrec

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 03 Aug 2013 15:17

Murugan wrote:Rumors that H'khor Akbaruddin Owaisi the Namak Haram is going to give reply to Modi's speech on 17th August. He has been barred from giving pub speeches. That ban is lifted?

Fikar not. He is doing good service to NM and BJP in AP. The more he speaks of sickularism the more psec types (INC et al) are exposed. More power to the polarization.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 03 Aug 2013 19:04

Murugan wrote:Some BG check on owaisis

What is this party for which Shri Raja Singh is speaking?

Usually red gandhi topi is mulayam's party.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 03 Aug 2013 19:23

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 03 Aug 2013 20:06

RVAIDYA ‏@rvaidya2000 36m
the coming poll is not a battle but war-chaiwala to enter Delhi durbar as king- unimaginable to vested interest-will do ANYTHING to prevent-

https://twitter.com/rvaidya2000

They will try to take him out before he occupies the throne. Delhi will become a fortress.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 03 Aug 2013 21:43

Manish_Sharma wrote:
Murugan wrote:Some BG check on owaisis
What is this party for which Shri Raja Singh is speaking?

Usually red gandhi topi is mulayam's party.

it ij naat laal topi.. it is good old basanti colour of Indra's and Shivaji's flag, saar...

chk out this video from the old city from last year's Ram Navami, before this guy joined BJP and was working on his own..

disha · Post by **disha** » 03 Aug 2013 22:03

Hari Seldon wrote:Am hajaar heartened to see Owaisi's trepidation at the possibility of a cycle-lotus tie-up. Means there's more than smoke at work here...

Q for Mr Owaisi's "Don't align" edict should be "else what?".

THe Aug 11 NaMo visit has also raised the tempo in Hyd, seems like. Rest assured the MIM will try to disrupt the event. Its happening at the old LB stadium near Abids (in old city) rather than the new one in Uppal. No doubt the Ap govt played mischief in doing so.

LB Stadium, first of all is not near Abids it is more near GunFoundry and Nizam College grounds. And this area is like the new Hyderabad., put it this way, Abids is as near to LB Stadium as Secretariat. And all this are nerve center. The location is chosen wisely IMHO. Uppal will be very far off and well beyond suburbia. 11th August being Sunday, public bus connectivity to LB Stadium is better than to say Uppal.

geeth · Post by **geeth** » 03 Aug 2013 22:32

They will try to take him out before he occupies the throne. Delhi will become a fortress.

Seeing what is happening Andhra due Telengana bifurcation, I shudder to think what would happen to India if such unfortunate event happens...

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 03 Aug 2013 23:14

Modi should ask people to convert their angers into a smile vote.. and deliver the anger against kangrez with at least 2/3rd majority... it has been eons and ages since IG days,none had secured 2/3rd majority.

language, telangana, shatru, bachchan, pappu, etc. are not the real issues. the real issues are anti-corruption and 360* growth.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 04 Aug 2013 00:16

They will try to take him out before he occupies the throne. Delhi will become a fortress.

And this is precisely the reason we need a 100 Modis, all over India. One of the greatest gifts Modi (& Hindus) can give India is leadership development. India's future cannot be dependent on a singular personality coming to power at the right time, though all we have is Modi for now.