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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 21 Jun 2022 21:58
by Yagnasri
She will win. Non-NDA parties will find it easy to justify voting for her. They do not want to vote against an ST female.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 21 Jun 2022 22:20
by asbchakri
I do not see how Naveen babu can oppose her. :)

This shows the master strategy of BJP. Opposition parties were running all over the place throwing names without seeing any strategic points for their selections. BJP calmly waited and did what they do best. 8)

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 21 Jun 2022 22:27
by chetak
Yagnasri wrote:Yashwanth Sinha is going to lose. Draupadi Murmur may be one candidate. ST Candidate. There are also other ST Candidates. I hope an ST Candidate will ensure that.
now that Draupadi Murmu is the NDA's choice for President of India, this yashwanth sinha shyte should step aside willingly to facilitate an unanimous choice to preserve his own dignity.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 21 Jun 2022 22:37
by asbchakri
chetak wrote:
now that Draupadi Murmu is the NDA's choice for President of India, this yashwanth sinha shyte should step aside willingly to facilitate an unanimous choice to preserve his own dignity.
Yeah right :roll:

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 21 Jun 2022 22:41
by KLNMurthy
IndraD wrote:BJP-led NDA announces Draupadi Murmu's name as Presidential candidate
Smart choice

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 21 Jun 2022 22:43
by Tanaji
Lets hope that this is not a repeat of Pratibha Patil affair.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 21 Jun 2022 23:35
by chetak
asbchakri wrote:I do not see how Naveen babu can oppose her. :)

This shows the master strategy of BJP. Opposition parties were running all over the place throwing names without seeing any strategic points for their selections. BJP calmly waited and did what they do best. 8)
naveen babu would have voted for an ostrich, if the BJP had put it up as its candidate.

he loves his peace and prefers to protect his flanks, as do jagan and a few others who prefer the BJP's छत्रछाया to the harsh sunshine of the real world. They don't ask for any special treatment and nor would they get it even if they did.

naveen and jagan, both know हाज़िरी कहाँ लगानी है in dilli

They all know which side of their bread is buttered and they also don't cause grief to the center

anyway, with his eyes firmly set on the छत्रछाया, naveen has welcomed her candidature.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 00:01
by chetak
KLNMurthy wrote:
IndraD wrote:BJP-led NDA announces Draupadi Murmu's name as Presidential candidate
Smart choice
It's more than likely that the kerala governor may be the choice for the veep

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 00:32
by Tanaji
Eknath Shinde has clearly seen the writing on the wall for him and has jumped ship. Shinde is the senior most leader of Sena, once the old guard was sidelined. Shinde is one of the old time hard core Shiv Sainiks - he was a follower of Anand Dighe, one of the biggest leaders Shiv Sena has produced. At his time, his popularity and support was eclipsing even that of Bal Thackrey… There were rumours that Dighe had an attempt on his life at BTs behest but I don’t believe it… BT seemed to have made up with him. But I digress… Point is Shinde is old school Sena with whatever original values it was founded with. He is trying to get out because:
  • While he is extremely strong in Thane proper and surrounding areas, he has his ears close to the ground. He knows come the next election SS has no chance
  • He has no love for the likes of Raut who is a fool with no popular appeal nor organisational capacity. Rauts outsized influence on SS grates on him no doubt
  • Shinde knows he has no chance to be a CM ever and he accepts that but his son is a different story. The penguin will inherit and there go Shinde Jr chances
  • To a small extent Shinde can never stomach tying up with Congress..
He seems to have support of around 20 MLAs. How long they remain with him is anybody’s guess. The longer this drags on the worse it is for Shinde as chances of the rebels going back increases.

UT right now is totally clueless and is being advised by idiots like Raut, one of the most opportunistic characters on this planet. It won’t end well for SS. The only winner here is the Powerful party

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 01:07
by asbchakri
Guess right man for this crisis, he has a lot of experience in these matters :mrgreen:

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/congres ... is-3086678

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 01:34
by nachiket
Tanaji wrote: UT right now is totally clueless and is being advised by idiots like Raut, one of the most opportunistic characters on this planet. It won’t end well for SS. The only winner here is the Powerful party
Long ago after the 2019 elections itself when Raut started mouthing off some people kept saying that Raut was a Pawarful Trojan horse whose short term aim was breaking SS away from BJP but the long term one was always the destruction of SS. He achieved his short term aim very quickly. May he achieve the long term one as well if indeed that is the case.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 01:35
by vijayk
KLNMurthy wrote:
IndraD wrote:BJP-led NDA announces Draupadi Murmu's name as Presidential candidate
Smart choice
Draupadi Murmu Ji used to be a teacher at Sri Aurobindo Integral Education Centre, Rairangpur.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 01:50
by vimal
Imagine being born in a humble tribal family and rising to the post of the president of a nation.
What kind of karma you had to do to rise to the highest levels.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 01:53
by vijayk
Tanaji wrote:Eknath Shinde has clearly seen the writing on the wall for him and has jumped ship. Shinde is the senior most leader of Sena, once the old guard was sidelined. Shinde is one of the old time hard core Shiv Sainiks - he was a follower of Anand Dighe, one of the biggest leaders Shiv Sena has produced. At his time, his popularity and support was eclipsing even that of Bal Thackrey… There were rumours that Dighe had an attempt on his life at BTs behest but I don’t believe it… BT seemed to have made up with him. But I digress… Point is Shinde is old school Sena with whatever original values it was founded with. He is trying to get out because:
  • While he is extremely strong in Thane proper and surrounding areas, he has his ears close to the ground. He knows come the next election SS has no chance
  • He has no love for the likes of Raut who is a fool with no popular appeal nor organisational capacity. Rauts outsized influence on SS grates on him no doubt
  • Shinde knows he has no chance to be a CM ever and he accepts that but his son is a different story. The penguin will inherit and there go Shinde Jr chances
  • To a small extent Shinde can never stomach tying up with Congress..
He seems to have support of around 20 MLAs. How long they remain with him is anybody’s guess. The longer this drags on the worse it is for Shinde as chances of the rebels going back increases.

UT right now is totally clueless and is being advised by idiots like Raut, one of the most opportunistic characters on this planet. It won’t end well for SS. The only winner here is the Powerful party

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Abhi COYS
@runningupthegil

Breaking:-
First photo of Eknath Shinde camp is out from Surat hotel. 37 MLAs in SURAT, ready to fly to either of Guvhati or Karnataka

PJP MLA Bachchu Kadu also present here.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 01:59
by vijayk
https://twitter.com/SuryahSG/status/1539275670164889605

Check the video of Annamalai .. need some confirmation from folks in TN

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 03:14
by IndraD
https://www.newindianexpress.com/prabhu ... 12208.html
when Yashwant Sinha mortgaged India's gold abroad as FM

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 03:39
by KLNMurthy
vijayk wrote:
KLNMurthy wrote: Smart choice
Draupadi Murmu Ji used to be a teacher at Sri Aurobindo Integral Education Centre, Rairangpur.
I don’t know much about her but she seems to be a humble person with a dharmic background.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 03:56
by chetak
Father chawal ke saath kela bhi de diya


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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 04:03
by bala
India's UN representative
Ruchira Kamboj to be India's Permanent Representative to U.N.

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Ruchira Kamboj, who is currently serving as India's envoy to Bhutan, will succeed T.S. Tirumurti as the Indian ambassador to the U.N. Senior diplomat Ruchira Kamboj was on Tuesday appointed India's Permanent Representative to the United Nations in New York. Ms. Kamboj, a 1987-batch Indian Foreign Service (IFS) officer, is presently serving as India's envoy to Bhutan.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 05:07
by ramana
Shanmukh
So, what changed between the end of 2019 and 2021? I can think of only one major change - the rise of the Biden sarkar. So, after the rise of Biden sarkar, Modi government has decided, for whatever reasons, that they should appease the enemies of Hindutva.
You are dead wrong on this.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 08:53
by krithivas
I can confirm from reliable second hand (cousins) from South India who are formal BJP functionaries. Annamalai will deliver ~30% of BJP MLAs in TN assembly.
vijayk wrote:https://twitter.com/SuryahSG/status/1539275670164889605

Check the video of Annamalai .. need some confirmation from folks in TN

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 10:41
by chetak
nachiket wrote:
Tanaji wrote: UT right now is totally clueless and is being advised by idiots like Raut, one of the most opportunistic characters on this planet. It won’t end well for SS. The only winner here is the Powerful party
Long ago after the 2019 elections itself when Raut started mouthing off some people kept saying that Raut was a Pawarful Trojan horse whose short term aim was breaking SS away from BJP but the long term one was always the destruction of SS. He achieved his short term aim very quickly. May he achieve the long term one as well if indeed that is the case.

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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 11:20
by SRajesh
chetak wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:Dilbuji

message to GOI about his CJI time??
is it mandatory to make him, can he not be side lined, even at the cost of a crisis
Chetakji
There is precedent no
Shri Banditji did it once purportedly because of the metal status of the senior judge :rotfl:
And Betiji did it twice :D

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 11:25
by rsingh
Please do not use SS for Shiv Sena. It is very insensitive pour moi. ShS perhaps?

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 11:28
by chetak
Rsatchi wrote:
chetak wrote:
is it mandatory to make him, can he not be side lined, even at the cost of a crisis
Chetakji
There is precedent no
Shri Banditji did it once purportedly because of the metal status of the senior judge :rotfl:
And Betiji did it twice :D
Rsatchi ji,

banditji had no worthwhile opposition, and betiji had huge political testimonials.

Both of which are apparently lacking in the present setup, obsessed as they are with the "लोग क्या कहेंगे" syndrome, in spite of their 303 calibre

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 11:44
by Manish_P
rsingh wrote:Please do not use SS for Shiv Sena. It is very insensitive pour moi. ShS perhaps?
Why would 'SS' be sensitive ?

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 11:48
by Pratyush
By God, UT is something.

His father was the lion of Mumbai.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 11:55
by chetak
The second image below is what exactly happened at a recent rally in punjab

khujliwal had side lined mann who was seen forlornly hanging out from the window of the car


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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 12:02
by chetak
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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 12:09
by Tanaji
Manish_P wrote:
rsingh wrote:Please do not use SS for Shiv Sena. It is very insensitive pour moi. ShS perhaps?
Why would 'SS' be sensitive ?
SS is more used for Schutz Staffel, the Nazi forces responsible for majority of the concentration camps etc.

rsinghji, Understood, will try to avoid in future.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 12:14
by Tanaji
In the meanwhile the MLAs have been shifted to Guwahati. They will stake claim from there with Shinde to be a deputy CM.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 12:24
by chetak
Tanaji wrote:In the meanwhile the MLAs have been shifted to Guwahati. They will stake claim from there with Shinde to be a deputy CM.
The governor is available only via video conference because he is "unwell"

a very clever move by the BJP.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 13:00
by Dilbu
The Congress has been creating a hubbub with the Enforcement Directorate (ED) questioning Rahul Gandhi in the National Herald case. Contrast this with the situation years ago when Narendra Modi was questioned by an SIT and Amit Shah was arrested.
Unlike Rahul's Ruckus, How Modi And Shah Appeared before Probe Agencies without Making A Fuss

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 13:04
by Sachin
chetak wrote:The governor is available only via video conference because he is "unwell"
There are also rumours that Goa Governor P Sreedharan Pillai (from Kerala BJP) may be given additional charge of MH as well.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 13:15
by rsingh
Tanaji wrote:In the meanwhile the MLAs have been shifted to Guwahati. They will stake claim from there with Shinde to be a deputy CM.
20 plus MLAs were kidnapped and are held hostages in furthermost corner of India (from Mumbai) :mrgreen: .They took regular flight and centre is yet to launch a commando style operation? This Rawat guy is very slippery character.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 13:51
by Manish_P
Tanaji wrote:
Manish_P wrote:
Why would 'SS' be sensitive ?
SS is more used for Schutz Staffel, the Nazi forces responsible for majority of the concentration camps etc.

rsinghji, Understood, will try to avoid in future.
SS is in common usage here.. why change it for perceived foreign 'sensibilities'. If we go down that route we should also give up referring to the swastika. And that was the white shits slimy way of hiding the origin of the hakenkreuz - the hooked cross

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 14:02
by chetak
Manish_P wrote:
Tanaji wrote:
SS is more used for Schutz Staffel, the Nazi forces responsible for majority of the concentration camps etc.

rsinghji, Understood, will try to avoid in future.
SS is in common usage here.. why change it for perceived foreign 'sensibilities'. If we go down that route we should also give up referring to the swastika. And that was the white shits slimy way of hiding the origin of the hakenkreuz - the hooked cross
One has often wondered if the term "house nigger" is used in India whose sensibilities are hurt. India has never had "niggers", it is merely a turn of phrase. offensive though it may well be in some ameriki context.

In a purely Indian context, SS (nazi), etc is a woke and manufactured construct. The nazis have no relevance in India, and that is a historic reality.

More to the point, no jew has ever been persecuted in India because of his religion or beliefs.

why would we needlessly carry the historic guilt of the germans and that too in 2022.

just my 2 paise onlee

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 14:15
by Tanaji
Guys, its a small request from a member… doesnt hurt. He hasnt said anything about Swastik, so why go there, anyways OT.

Apparently 2 more have flown out to Guwahati on their own today. I think he has support of around 35-40 now. Shivsena has only 56 MLAs.

As I had mentioned earlier Shinde doesnt take to penguin. There are reports today that 2 days before the MLC election there was a massive argument between Shinde and penguin and Raut. The latter wanted to use Senas excess votes for Congress and Shinde took a very dim view of it…

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 14:20
by chetak
Sachin wrote:
chetak wrote:The governor is available only via video conference because he is "unwell"
There are also rumours that Goa Governor P Sreedharan Pillai (from Kerala BJP) may be given additional charge of MH as well.
Governor Bhagat Singh Koshyari will be available via Video conferencing no charge of Maharashtra Governor to any other state Governor- #Clarification issued by Governor House Maharashtra.


https://www.livemint.com/news/india/ami ... 04779.html

A statement from the Raj Bhawan was issued which stated that anybody who wanted to contact the governor should do so via video conference.

"Governor has Covid symptoms. Which is why he is admitted to the hospital. He is stable and there are no such talks of handing over his charge to the other Governor. If anyone wants to get in contact with the Governor, can do it via Video Conference," a statement from the Raj Bhavan said.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 22 Jun 2022 14:56
by chetak
A practice so common in Tamil Nadu.

To whisper into Nandi bagawan 's ears.

Odisha tribal practices are the same too.
Just common Hindusim things across this desha.

For those who think it's just a collection of states.

No. It's the fundamental dharma that's common
via@krithikasivasw


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