India Nuclear News and Discussion - August 20, 2007

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 21 Aug 2007 07:25

[quote]The history of all communist parties anywhere in the world suggests that they invariably try to strike a balance between their â€œnationalist concernsâ€

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 21 Aug 2007 07:29

The Left continues to misread local politics. It does not have the guns or goons outside of West Bengal to back its Beijing-inspired agenda. Driven by the Karat duo, the Left foolishly hoped that Sonia Gandhi would support their move to depose Manmohan Singh.

Mummmmmmmmmmmy....ouch ouch ouch.
Chinese whispers

Media the attack dog?

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 21 Aug 2007 07:46

Raju wrote:We are not really signing a deal with US, of there is this notional deal and 123/Hyde etc but the real deal is with the Rockefeller clique. Even the ambassador to India David C. Mulford is their pointman. He was sent to Saudi Arabia as investment advisor to Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency to divert petrodollars to Rockefeller owned banks in NY & elsewhere.
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*this was again a hush-hush deal with Montek Singh Ahluwalia taking the lead here. The entire preparation of this initiative was highly secret affair with no consultations with any of the stakeholders

Tie-in the divestment (read give away to the folks mentioned above) of SBI, BHEL, BEML, BEL etc and all other navaratnas into it.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Aug 2007 07:59

As the Sci Com is quiet their concerns are taken care of. What is now left is the political concerns of the various players.

What is the Lefts stake can't be IM population? Are they playing for the big ticket with UNPA as the front?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 21 Aug 2007 08:06

How well equipped is India to handle additional (in the future) nuclear waste?

USA, Russia, Australia...all would be happy to get new business; India would be happy to bolster its power generation; but isn't radioactive waste an issue?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Aug 2007 08:21

SwamyG wrote:How well equipped is India to handle additional (in the future) nuclear waste?

USA, Russia, Australia...all would be happy to get new business; India would be happy to bolster its power generation; but isn't radioactive waste an issue?

Radoactive waste will be an issue, no doubt. The closed fuel cycle will go a long way in handling that rather than letting the spent fuel ods accumulate after being once-through. However, the wastes will still have to be handled after Pu extraction.

Avarachan · Post by **Avarachan** » 21 Aug 2007 08:23

shiv wrote:
NRao wrote: Hyde Act - yes. Internal - yes. 123 does NOT state that - yes.
NRao - even if we assume that there was no Hyde act, any Indian interaction with the US comes under US law for Americans.

If a US law states that the US may not export wheat between July and December, and India needs wheat in August, US laws will prevent that export unless the law is amended, or there is an exclusionary clause written in.

The 123 does not state that kickbacks are disallowed. A US entity might seek to gain an advantage with a kickback. Provided Indian laws kick in, India laws will act on that US entity and the Indians it has dealt with.

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Members of parliament are demanding greater involvement in this deal, and MMS is not obliged to give them that.

It is equally true that if the Parliament takes a decision that the people don't like, the latter will be out on the streets. But surely, for a matter so important, shouldn't a referendum be held and 600 million voting Indians be asked what they want to do about the nuclear future of India? Why just Karat/Bardhan and co? The only problem is the wording of the referendum - because if you ask Indians whether they want power supply or nukes - I suspect they will vote for power supply.

You think so? I would suspect the opposite, at least among ordinary citizens. Western-oriented elites might choose the power supply, but I've been struck by the fierce nationalism of most Indians.

shiv wrote: Under the circumstances, it is up to the opposition and government to sit and understand the deal and stop yakking to the press like ignoramuses and allowing the press to have a ball by saying "Marriage on the rocks" etc.

The opposition can quietly say that we need more details about the deal.

Do you think MMS would have listened? The UPA is only listening now because they have to.

But in India - politics does not work that way. They will say that someone is a traitor, and anti-national and "appeal to the masses" to protest. And the masses too go around thinking that Parliament is like the court of some Raja where there is a traitorous vizier trying to undermine the Kingdom. And they bay for someone's blood or the other and root for whoever they think appeals to them.

I believe that there is an all round discarding of even a semblance of common sense.

Did anyone hear Cmdre Uday Bhaskar and Parthasarathy on DD News (Hindis) last night? These people must be traitors for their support to the deal.

Not traitors, just people making a mistake.

I, for one, think this debate is healthy. What was disappointing was the way MMS tried to slip this agreement past the Indian people and their representatives in the Lok Sabha. Thankfully, he wasn't successful.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 21 Aug 2007 08:23

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 21 Aug 2007 08:26

Raju wrote:We are not really signing a deal with US, of there is this notional deal and 123/Hyde etc but the real deal is with the Rockefeller clique. Even the ambassador to India David C. Mulford is their pointman. He was sent to Saudi Arabia as investment advisor to Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency to divert petrodollars to Rockefeller owned banks in NY & elsewhere.
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*this was again a hush-hush deal with Montek Singh Ahluwalia taking the lead here. The entire preparation of this initiative was highly secret affair with no consultations with any of the stakeholders

They have groomed the Indian elite for the last 30 years and are working with them now.
The Indian elite of the last 30 years are opening the doors for them without knowing the real players in the global arena. Rest of the Indian educated population have no clue to the dealings.

sugriva · Post by **sugriva** » 21 Aug 2007 08:32

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sugriva · Post by **sugriva** » 21 Aug 2007 08:33

They have groomed the Indian elite for the last 30 years and are working with them now.
The Indian elite of the last 30 years are opening the doors for them without knowing the real players in the global arena. Rest of the Indian educated population have no clue to the dealings.

Do you mean the Illuminati?

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 21 Aug 2007 08:55

Basuspeak suggests rift

Tanmay Chatterjee
The Statesman, Kolkata, Aug. 21, 2007

KOLKATA, Aug. 20: Only the coming days will tell if Left parties have gathered enough conviction to pull the plug on the UPA government, but it became apparent this morning that the controversy over the Indo-US nuclear agreement has created a divide between the Bengal unit of the CPI-M and its central leadership as well as between the party and its Left Front allies.
â€œThere is no possibility of a mid-term poll,â€

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Aug 2007 09:07

Avarachan,
What was disappointing was the way MMS tried to slip this agreement past the Indian people and their representatives in the Lok Sabha.

I am not an apologist for MMS. Quite the contrary. However, I don't understand how he tried to surreptitiously hoist this deal on India past the representatives in the Parliament. Surely, the GoI doesn't need to take a vote in the Parliament, right ? A discussion has happened as was announced earlier. The Opposition didn't allow a meaningful discussion to take place, for all their professed concerns for the sovereignty of India. What else could have been better to drive their points home than letting a hard-hitting discussion take place that would have given them an opportunity to forcefully explain their stand ? This whole thing smacks of puppeteering by PRC to put a spoke in the economic growth of India and rank bad opportunism by the Opposition.

Manny · Post by **Manny** » 21 Aug 2007 09:38

There needs to be a constitutional amendment banning the "Communists". They and their sympathizers need to be treated for what they are. Traitors.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 21 Aug 2007 09:48

Did anyone read the mass-murderer-chief's drivel in the Stalinist Propaganda yellow press 'explaining' why they are opposing the deal? There was no word on Hyde/123 it was all about US and Iran - thereby exposing the traitors in no unclear terms.

bala · Post by **bala** » 21 Aug 2007 10:02

There needs to be a constitutional amendment banning the "Communists".

I agree. The "communists" need a ban because the moment they come to power with a majority they will suspend democracy for good. Yeah, sure, they will call it the peoples democracy or some such lunatic phrase but "democracy" as we know it will be gone. The minimum pledge these jokers need to make is under no circumstance will they ever suspend democracy, which they will never make. I don't know whether there can be a trace established to their sources of funding (should inevitably lead to China) besides man-handling ordinary folks for the Durga Puja donation scam.

Meanwhile ...
Indo-US deal cannot be renegotiated: Indian Americans

Leaders of Indian-American community expressing concerns over the stand taken by the political parties in India on the Indo-US civil nuclear said the deal cannot be renegotiated as it may not get approved by the US Congress or the next President cannot get it passed as the chances are virtually zero.

"Parties opposing it are placing their political interest over national interest. If this Bill comes back for any reason, the present Congress or the next President cannot get it passed as the chances are virtually zero," chairman of the US-India Political Forum Ashok Mago.

Terming Prime Minister Manmohan Singh as a man of integrity, Mago said, "For any one to think for a second that Prime Minster Manmohan Singh will agree to sign an agreement which is not in the national interest of India should be unthinkable.

Mago, expressing his surprise over the late reaction of the parties on the deal said, "why political parties in India waited this long to oppose it now so strongly as to want to kill it, when everyone knew the terms of the Hyde Act."

"This bill should be looked as an energy bill to provide India the clean energy it desperately needs to keep up with the pace of its economic growth," he said.

Found this on Japan' Abe impending Kolkata visit:

The Left has looked askance at India developing a strategic and security partnership with Japan. But Abe has also planned a visit to Kolkata where he is expected to unfold an economic agenda that is bound to disarm the Buddhadeb government. In any case Japan's Mitsubishi Chemicals is believed to be the most successful foreign investment in Bengal, and Abe would certainly like to use that as a model for the India-Japan partnership as a whole. Abe will visit Netaji Bhavan, pay homage to Rabindranath Tagore and inaugurate a new Japanese cultural centre at Kolkata. The Japanese have an old link with Bengal: they are grateful for the role played by Justice Radha Binodbihari Pal in helping the country emerge with its honour intact after the Second World War. Abe is likely to convey Japan's gratitude to the Kolkatans.

Hope the Japanese send a clear message to the CPI&M goons as to where their butter is coming from and to shape up on the India-Japan alliance ergo against China.

vina · Post by **vina** » 21 Aug 2007 11:03

What the Indian Commies fear is headlines like in today's NY Times about Abe's India visit.. Two years ago, NY Times wouldn't have given a rat's ass on what happened between India and Japan.. Points to India's rising profile and shows the fact.. We've come a long way baby. Our commies, being the ever faithful lapdogs of Beijing which is getting the jitters from the 123 deal and the 4 nation security initiative must have applied size 12 motivators to their willing slaves in India

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August 21, 2007
As Japan and India Forge Economic Ties, a Counterweight to China Is Seen
By HEATHER TIMMONS

NEW DELHI, Aug. 20 â€” When Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan touches down in India this week, it will be the highest-level step yet in what analysts say is a long-term effort to balance, if not contain, Chinaâ€™s growing economic and political might.

As Beijingâ€™s influence in Asia and around the world has grown, their common interests have forced Tokyo and New Delhi to begin warming their historically chilly relationship and to start forging closer economic ties. â€œThe key issue facing the whole region is how to accommodate the rise of China,â€

sum · Post by **sum** » 21 Aug 2007 11:17

The Chinese embassy must be in full swing these days issuing press releases minute after minute to be read out by their darlings,the CPI(M)......
Hope our spooks are noting everything happening so that the scumbags can be exposed when a new govt comes in/commies go out of power whenover it does!!!!!!

Raja · Post by **Raja** » 21 Aug 2007 12:29

It is rather sad and scary that PRC can bring down the government of India whenever it wishes. We are being completely outclassed by the Chinese.

The only positive thing that I see is that a section of the media, probably inspired by government sources, is more openly accusing Left of sacrificing national interest to serve their communist superiors. The question is if this really matters to the people who vote for them.

Heck, the nuclear deal will be net positive even if just manages to malign the left.

kit · Post by **kit** » 21 Aug 2007 12:39

http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2007/ ... -deal.html

Whats the truth regarding this ??

"India alone has the technological expertise for thorium-based reactors and a 300 MW reactor is under regulatory clearance. If launched in the 11th Plan, it may be ready within seven years. Thorium produces up to 10,000-times less long-lived radioactive waste than uranium or plutonium, sharply reducing radiation hazards. Where is the need for India to grovel before the Nuclear Suppliers' Group for purchasing uranium? "

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Aug 2007 13:06

I have personally flown down from Coruscant and taken a job as a humble teacher in the youngling school of the Tokugawa lords.

this is the most important emerging alliance in Asia, perhaps 2nd only to the Indo-US IOR Chowkidari magna carta.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Aug 2007 13:29

Raja wrote:It is rather sad and scary that PRC can bring down the government of India whenever it wishes. We are being completely outclassed by the Chinese.

Rather than being outclassed by PRC, I would say we are being betrayed by Leftist Mir Jaffers and the so-called Rightist Opportunists.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 21 Aug 2007 14:02

I had been wearing my over night thinking cap, and I beleive that the another unstated reason for the Commies doing halla against the deal is the visit of the Japanese PM to India, and the agrrements he will sign with us.

Some of these agreements/understandings are:
1. The signing of the comprehensive economic partnership agreement (CEPA).
2. The $90 billion Delhi Mumbai industrial corridor.
3. The expanding military ties.
4. The possible oil swap deals/energy security.

What is interesting is that except for #4, all other points hurt China. Let's take it point by point:

#1 & 2. The CEPA will ensure that India becomes the favoured manufacturing outsourcing country, DISPLACING China. This is the biggest body blow to the Chinese manufacturing juggernaut.

Remeber that 70% of China' exports are made by foreign companies. While I don't have the breakup countrywise, it is easy to surmise that Japan is one of the largest (if not the largest) investor in China's manufacturing secotr. Removal of the Japanese factories/investment from CHina, and its subsequent set up/investment India is thus a double blow to CHina's plans. Not only does it weaken China, it strengthens India - thus doubly weakening China.

No wonder the communists are desparately trying to protect their masters in the Forbidden City.

#3. Military ties have a two pronged approach. One is the protection of sea lanes - from both pirates and countries. The other is cooperation in fighting wars. Both are anti China.

Most pirates in the SEA region are either affiliated to China or N Korea. The chinese connections may be to officials or to the triads, which are themselves anyway linked to the Chinese government.

A

flashed in my mind when I linked the Nuke deal with the other moves India is making - and analysed their implications on China.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 21 Aug 2007 14:10

kit wrote:http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2007/ ... -deal.html

Whats the truth regarding this ??

"India alone has the technological expertise for thorium-based reactors and a 300 MW reactor is under regulatory clearance. If launched in the 11th Plan, it may be ready within seven years. Thorium produces up to 10,000-times less long-lived radioactive waste than uranium or plutonium, sharply reducing radiation hazards. Where is the need for India to grovel before the Nuclear Suppliers' Group for purchasing uranium? "

Isnt this crap? Are there any raw Thorium burning reactors even in experiment stage? Thorium needs to be irradiated and converted before it can be used.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 21 Aug 2007 14:11

SSridhar wrote:
Raja wrote:It is rather sad and scary that PRC can bring down the government of India whenever it wishes. We are being completely outclassed by the Chinese.
Rather than being outclassed by PRC, I would say we are being betrayed by Leftist Mir Jaffers and the so-called Rightist Opportunists.

Patience onlee.

We will show that the Chinese will never be able to match us in any class.

In the meantime, here is the list of things the Chinese have got from us:
1. Their religion (naturally).
2. Martial Arts (made by a South Indian monk - Bodhidharma).
3. Chinese medicine (made by Siddhartha Gautam).
4. Pagodas (developed in Nepal).

What exactly is China's contribution to Indian culture???

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 21 Aug 2007 14:16

abhischekcc wrote:
#1 & 2. The CEPA will ensure that India becomes the favoured manufacturing outsourcing country, DISPLACING China. This is the biggest body blow to the Chinese manufacturing juggernaut.

This is not feasible. Japs are too culturally integrated with the Chinese to even think of doing this. A visiting Japanese businessman can feel at home in China, eat their food, visit their Karaoke bars and sleep with their hookers. Here they live a horrible life (in their perception). Plus the demographic invasion of Japan by Chinese will continue and increase, because of declining Jap. population. Much as they hate them, Japs finally dont mind the Chinese simply because it is hard to tell them apart once they start dressing decently and talking Japanese.

They are just buying insurance policy with a lot of the premium paid by ourselves. We can also play along for a while and milk some gains (loans are not cheap or not cheap) but not trust the Japs anymore we trust the Chinese.

Sorry OT.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 21 Aug 2007 14:20

FYI from 1998
http://www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/ ... _2893.html

13 May 1998
The Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M) accuses the government of unilaterally reversing India's nuclear policy when the government has "a precarious majority and has not established its stability" and asks for "all parties and people to be taken into confidence before such major departures." CPI leader A.B. Bardhan says "the test of strength is a strong economy, not just weapons" and urges the government to clarify its policy on the nuclear issue. Both the Communist Party of India (CPI) and CPI-M question how the government can move towards signing the discriminatory Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) if there is a national consensus in the country not to do that unless the time-bound framework for nuclear disarmament is included in the treaty. Janata Dal spokesperson Mohan Prakash asks the government to explain the reasons for exercising the nuclear option. Prakash also asks what steps the government has undertaken to deal with the possible international and national repercussions and calls on the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) to "evolve a new consensus" on the signing of the CTBT.
â€”"Left Questions Nuclear Policy Change," Asian Age (New Delhi), 14 May 1998, <http://www.asianageonline.com>.

http://www.sentinelassam.com/sentinel_en/editorial.htm

The Left is opposing the UPAâ€™s Governmentâ€™s bid to forge a civilian nuclear tie with the US basically because the government has made the â€˜wrongâ€™ choice in the matter of selecting the country â€” the US. The choice is â€˜wrongâ€™ because the choice is the US, a capitalist economy that runs counter to the Communist ideology. Indiaâ€™s Left, otherwise, overlooks a Communist China hiring American scholars to teach in its universities; it also overlooks the volume of Chinese trade with the US. There is a Leftist explanation though: China can afford any level of proximity with the US because it is not only an avowedly Communist country but also a powerful one at that, capable of effecting any number of sovereignty safeguards; but India is not, and so it is the sacred Communist duty of the Indian comrades to rise to the occasion. Had the choice been not the US but, say, China in any kind of bilateralism, the Left would have had the government accept and implement it all right now â€” because China cannot attack India, nor would it ever even indirectly jeopardize Indiaâ€™s sovereignty, the Left would have us believe. For instance, when China talks of Tawang, the Left would have us treat it as a joke, for, as it would say, a Communist nation can never be imperialistic â€” it is only the capitalist nations that are imperialistic. We should even forget the 1962 aggression on us!

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 21 Aug 2007 14:24

This is how the CPI reacted to nuclear tests in 1998
http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pI ... 50804.html

Wednesday, May 13, 1998
No consensus on exercising nuclear option, says Left
EXPRESS NEWS SERVICE
NEW DELHI, May 12: The Left parties have taken a critical view of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) Government's decision to conduct three nuclear tests, saying that there is no national consensus on exercising the nuclear option.
``So far, only the BJP has advocated a policy of exercising the nuclear option,'' the Communist Party of India (Marxist) and the Communist Party of India said in a joint statement.
Demanding that the Vajpayee Government adhere to the country's nuclear disarmament policies which have been pursued so far, the two parties called for the avoidance of a nuclear arms race in South Asia so that peace and security is maintained in the region.
``Our concern is that the ongoing process of normalising relations with India's neighbours might be jeopardised,'' said Communist Party of India national secretary, D Raja.
Questioning the decision to carry out the tests at this juncture, the CPM and the CPI said the Government has not given any reasons for this decision nor has it explainedthe international and national implications that would result as a fallout of the test.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 21 Aug 2007 14:27

Suppaih, the so called cutural affinity did not prevent the Chinese from trashing the Japanese in their riots, or the Japanese from conducting the rape of nanking.

Last post. OT.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 21 Aug 2007 14:36

One thing you can say about the commies - They have been consistently anti-India in their outlook and activities - right from pre-independance times.

Here's a list of their shamelessness:

1. Betrayed Indian nationalists during the quit India movement to the British. Said that their stance would "increase chances of a proletariet revolution in India". Real reason - Stalin was ally of US/UK.

When faced with a choice between India and Russia - they chose - Russia.

2. Blamed India for starting the 1962 war. Supported China.

When faced with a choice between India and China - they chose - China.

3. Supported Indira Gandhi's emergency regime. Betrayed people fighting the dictatorship, like they did in Quit India Movement.

When faced with a choice between India and IG- they chose - IG.

4. Condemned the nuclear tests of 1998.

When faced with a choice between India on one hand and the US/China/NPAs/other assorted anti India forces on the other - they chose - US/China/NPAs/other assorted anti India forces.

So it is clear, the communists support anybody or any thing - even the US - as long as it is not in India's favour. Who are they trying to fool now?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 21 Aug 2007 14:47

Commies are being set up. Don't worry. Hopefully they will get screwed royally.

But I don't think they are that dumb. They won't pull the government down...

Beijing must have pushed the panic button... Commies are prancing about like puppets under a drunken puppetmaster... Still they have to chose between domestic power continuation and Beijing's orders...

Sunoor Singh · Post by **Sunoor Singh** » 21 Aug 2007 14:53

rgsrini:

I have to say that MMS government is not even making an attempt to explain the deal to BJP

MMS had BJP's leaders, including Arun Shourie, over into his office and explained the salient points of the deal to them the moment it was signed. That was before the text was released. This is more than what he's done for any other party. He didn't call BSP's or Akali Dal's leaders, for example.

"Not even making an attempt" is not correct. BJP has to do what it's doing because this is how opposition in India is supposed to behave.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 21 Aug 2007 14:59

JE Menon wrote:Commies are being set up. Don't worry. Hopefully they will get screwed royally.

I would jusr lurve to hear some more on this.

sum · Post by **sum** » 21 Aug 2007 15:07

Beijing is so desperate that it is pushing the commies to do what they are not too keen on:to break the government. They were having it good all these days quitely pushing their agenda without any one noticing.
Now,they are out in the open and exposed for the traitors they are!!!!!
Am sure that the average indian is seeing the commies in their true traitorous colours......they will pay for it in the next elections (except in the goondadoms of WB,kerala)and even in the present govt if the crisis blows over........all for the love of Bejing

Atleast the deal exposed the commies which itself is a great achivement.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 21 Aug 2007 15:16

Acharya wrote:This was posted before.
Can somebody from pro-deal poster review this. Again no simplified answer.

Acharya I can answer most of those questions fairly easily. Unfortunately at least two are stupid - and I will leave it at at that - those two questions have been framed with rhetoric and criticism in mind and not out of any knowledge or sense.

The BJP asked that all questions pertaining to national security should be ratified by parliament. The CPI asked the BJP exactly the same question in 1998, and it was dismissed. The Congress too will dismiss this question - and I note in todays news that they have done that.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Aug 2007 15:21

India's ambassador to the US apologizes for the 'headless chicken' comment

How unfortunate that Ronen Sen has to apologize to the jokers for making a right observation.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 21 Aug 2007 15:46

Abhishek,

Its pure speculation on my part. Of course we will see how this pans out...

vsudhir · Post by **vsudhir** » 21 Aug 2007 15:54

Sum,

Beijing is so desperate that it is pushing the commies to do what they are not too keen on:to break the government. They were having it good all these days quitely pushing their agenda without any one noticing.

The chinis have demonstrated (in hindsight) an amazing ability to shoot themselves in the foot in longterm strategic terms. But for their ill-advised 1962 misadventure, they wouldn't have woken up a sleeping giant to quietly rid itself of a leader whose time had gone (JLN), rebuild a strong military and start the N-program.

Now, by blatantly manipulating our resident Beijing-bhakts (CPM commies) and waking up the UPA (& the NDA), they've revealed their hand (prematurely, IMO) and this particular card will diminish in importance and usability (hopefully) in more pressing times to come.

Whats more, the Beijing-bhakts under PRC orders have unwittingly taken on a desi neta-babu dispensation that has the backing of massa himself. Tough combo, I tell ya. Massa's hold on our babu-neta's balls (which babu-neta doesn't have family and/or friends stationed in the US/UK/ANZ zone, I ask ya?) is probably weightier than beijing's hold on commie balls (IMVVHO, of course).

Beijing's pushing its other puppet (muskrat) in TSP to action in lal masjid has also paid handsome dividends to PRC, no? Let 'em geniuses continue this line of tactical brilliance (and strategic stupidity). Penny wise-pound foolish.

Jai Maharashtra

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 21 Aug 2007 16:05

abhischekcc wrote:What exactly is China's contribution to Indian culture???

Ji..pls dont ask easy questions, even a village boy knows it is Maoists/Maoism

sum · Post by **sum** » 21 Aug 2007 16:08

Surely, ours spooks must be having tons of dirt on the commies......
Isnt this the time to start leaking the tit bits to browbeat the commies???