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Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 31 Jul 2012 19:03
by Altair
shyamd ji
As far as I can understand, killing Bandar is like crossing a red line. He has many many enemies but people stay away from him because of his reach and his protection. Syria alone would not have taken the decision to eliminate him. Iran and even Russia has to be involved from the top levels. All this assuming he is dead! What is your say on this?
Altair

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 31 Jul 2012 20:55
by shyamd
Sir - its very unlikely to be true. If true - word would get around very quickly. He was in a meeting with the foreign minister on the 29th.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 31 Jul 2012 21:25
by Theo_Fidel
... and claiming the attack. No self respecting intelligence agency would do that.
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Shyam,

Are weapons from Russia and Iran getting through to Assad in large enough quantities to make a difference? It is possible that with enough mortars and missiles Assad could level the troubled parts of the country and still prevail if he can get arms supply long enough.

One is reminded of Franco & the Spanish experience where Germany sent in arms but no one else did to the opposition.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 31 Jul 2012 21:48
by shyamd
^^ this is also what I've been thinking about recently.

The answer to this is that some weapons have been reaching Asad - more from Russia than Iran, but the talk is that he is running low on fuel ( but could be psyops).

US has been pressuring Iraq to shut off the air route from Iran, but many flights did go through.

To be realistic - Russia does have cash today and Asad has 120k alawite forces loyal to him. He is definitely very short on cash - Asad couldn't pay his militia in February, how would he pay today? Only Russia can help - which they have. In february he was ordering 500 and 1000 pound notes from Russia.

Russia holds the answers with regards to weapons. No one will interdict a Russian convoy guarding supply vessels. That is Asads only hope.

Tlass role is to get key military figures to change sides.

This war is not over yet. Asad key is to hold Aleppo more than any other city. So this will be probably the biggest battle fought to date. If he loses Aleppo, Asad could return to the mountains and western alawite areas where he has been doing some ethnic cleansing. He can use the cover of the terrain to fight. But he has no airport there and very little infrastructure.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 31 Jul 2012 21:55
by RajeshA
shyamd wrote:If he loses Aleppo, Asad could return to the mountains and western alawite areas where he has been doing some ethnic cleansing. He can use the cover of the terrain to fight. But he has no airport there and very little infrastructure.
But he will be closer to the ports in Tartus and Latakia, where he can receive Russian arms. The supply lines would not be long, and the population would not have any 'traitor' Sunnis!

If the massacres of non-Sunnis have started in Damascus in rebel controlled areas, then the writing is really on the wall for the non-Sunnis - it is either stand and fight or flee and die! Neither in Aleppo, nor in Damascus would they be able to make a lasting stand or get respite. Helm's Deep is on the Mediterranean!

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 31 Jul 2012 22:09
by Sushupti
Pro-Assad websites claim Syria has killed Saudi intelligence chief, to avenge Damascus bombing

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pro-assad- ... s-bombing/

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 01 Aug 2012 08:52
by Theo_Fidel
Shyam,

I have started spotting t-72's in Aleppo and elsewhere. Does this mean the elite Republican guards are now being thrown into the meat grinder?

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 01 Aug 2012 13:16
by shyamd
RajeshA, problem is those areas still have a lot of sunni's. Latakia still has >50% Sunni population. This is one of the reasons why he has conducted massacres there. Once the air bases fall, air operations start, sea invasion and ground operations start - I still think the FSA will win over time.

For the moment, they are using strategy, media etc - the FSA can't hold territory but neither can the regime forces - causing attrition on regime side and also the feeling of being surrounded. Capture of border posts and other symbols of government are important for psychology.

Regime is also hamstrung by their style of warfare - soviet tactics and not very mobile like western style of warfare

It's a fight to the death.

Theo , will check and get back to you.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 02 Aug 2012 02:19
by Theo_Fidel
Zaino Berri, well known, Shabiha is arrested and summarily executed by what appears to be the more Islamist wing of the Rebels. Technically not the FSA.

FSA Rebels capture about 25 Tanks and Armored vehicles and have begun desultarily shelling military bases in the Aleppo area. All roads from Aleppo to Turkey including border posts are now with FSA. The aim appears to be to turn Aleppo into Syria's Benghazi and then as for a no-fly zone. De-facto temporary partition. It is hard to see how Assad can control this region, so far from his power bases.

Turkey needs to begin a food convoy to 4 million strong Aleppo or the city will starve and the folks will end up in its refugee camps.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 02 Aug 2012 02:39
by shyamd
Prediction then! Still very much relevant to the game and so much of it has occurred!:
9th September 2011
So the next stage in the movement is for the army to split and refuse orders. You could hear of lower ranked soldiers sshooting ssuperiors. Several soldiers kill deserters or soldiers who refused orders. Once other soldiers realise their friends are killed this makes dissent more prevalent.
But the major factor is killing un armed civi's. The bloodbath will get so bad that the soldier will break down and get angry. This will start the break off.
Another thing to watch for are the colnels. They are the bridge between the politicians and the lower ranked soldiers. If they defect then this will slow the regime responses right down, as the colnels will know all the moves.
Then the sunni community that assad's rely upon - these are businessmen, armed forces guys (even Min of defencee) etc. For these, its pure economic. If business not going well, then they will want someone else.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 02 Aug 2012 02:40
by Johann
Theo,

T-72s are not limited to the Republican Guard. Assad started the war with over 1,500 of them in his best divisions.

However the Republican Guard have gotten the most upgrades - Italian fire control systems, ERA armour, etc.

Aleppo is important enough to commit the best units to.

Shyam,

The airport in Latakia is the third busiest and third largest in Syria. Not big enough to sustain the whole area or shelter the whole air force, but they wouldn't be cut off from the air either.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 02 Aug 2012 07:22
by Theo_Fidel
Johann,

I could have sworn I saw ERA on a couple of them, but I can't find the dang video's now. But your point is taken that many of the more 'elite' units do have T-72's. Somehow I thought Assad would be able to hold of committing those units longer. It is curious that here we are day 15 of the Aleppo battle and the Military is still not able to make a serious push into the main parts yet. All this while the Rebels are bringing in more arms and supplies and experienced fighters. I read a report that just in the last day the rebels brought in about 800 fresh fighters. There has got to be something approaching 6000-8000+ of them inside by now. There are only limited by the weapon supply. Every time a rebel falls another one picks up his weapons and keeps fighting. This is not the type of attrition battle Assad can win.

If he had any wisdom he would negotiate with the Aleppo rebels, force them to hold their position while he sterilizes the countryside and starves the city. Instead we have frontal assault after assault....

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 02 Aug 2012 12:21
by Johann
Theo,

I have seen footage of T-72s in Aleppo with ERA.

My understanding is that the Syrian military is currently doing two things;

1) setting up a perimeter of conventional forces by securing key neighborhoods and logistically prepping for the assault

2) infiltrating snipers throughout the city both for tactical intelligence and to harass the FSA not just with sniper fire, but also observers for mortar and artillery fire.

In short they are preparing the battlefield.

While there are good professional reasons to take this approach, my read is that Bashar is not happy with it. Every day Aleppo is not firmly in regime hands is a worrying embarrassment on the PR front. Looking weak at this stage is dangerous, because it can cost further support.

Secondly he seems worried that the tactical justifications are really stalling while commanders try to avoid battle and negotiate defection on good terms. Manaf Tlass has a lot of commanders personal mobile phone numbers.

Either way, Bashar is not in control of the timing of the assault, and that tells us something useful.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 02 Aug 2012 17:49
by shyamd
21st July 2012
Right now, the DUP in Syrian Kurdistan is backing Asad regime. So Washington adn Ankara appealed to KRG leader Barzani. Barzani agreed to help and closed down a DUP training camp and is said to be paying $400 for fighters to take on the DUP Kurdish leadership in Syria. Triggering a Kurdish civil war. Barzani wants an autonomous region for Kurds in Syria and they all think that by going to war against their kurdish brethren - Asad's downfall is the only way to create an autonomous region.
Official confirmation of above

Kurd rebels in Syria 'common threat': Turkey, Iraq Kurds
(AFP) – 1 hour ago
ANKARA — Turkey and Iraq's autonomous Kurdish region have warned that they will consider any violent group that abuses a Syrian power vacuum a "common threat", in a reference to Kurdish rebels in Syria.
"The new Syria should be free of any terrorist and extremist group or organisation," Turkey's foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu and Iraqi Kurdish leader Masoud Barzani said in a rare joint statement released late Wednesday.
The statement comes after the pair held talks in the northern Iraqi city of Arbil over the situation in Syria and reports that some parts of the country had fallen to the Kurdish rebels.
"Any attempt to exploit the power vacuum by any violent group or organisation will be considered as a common threat," said Barzani and Davutoglu in their joint statement.
Davutoglu was visiting the oil-rich city of Kirkuk on Thursday, Turkish media reported, adding that the foreign minister would bring together Syrian opposition groups.
The Democratic Union Party (PYD), the Syrian ally of the outlawed Turkish Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), had allegedly seized control of several towns along Turkey's border with Syria, alarming Ankara, which promptly increased defences on the border.
Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said last week Ankara would not hesitate to strike Kurdish rebels in Syria.
Ankara claims some of the Kurdish rebels in Syria are those who have been forced to move from their hideouts in mountainous zones in northern Iraq, after Turkey staged several air strikes in the area to drive out the rebels.
A military drill close to the Syrian border and an increase in the firepower deployment on the border followed the movement in northern Syria.
Ankara had already fortified the border region after a Turkish plane was brought down by Syria on June 22.
The PKK took up arms in Kurdish-majority southeastern Turkey in 1984, sparking a conflict that has claimed some 45,000 lives.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 03 Aug 2012 08:30
by Pranav
Theo_Fidel wrote:Zaino Berri, well known, Shabiha is arrested and summarily executed by what appears to be the more Islamist wing of the Rebels. Technically not the FSA.
Such fine distinctions are for the shills and useful idiots. All working for foreign masters.

Anyway, the point is that the Berris are a prominent Sunni clan with 50,000 members, who have now turned against the mercenaries.

The mercenaries have been liquidating citizens pretty much randomly, since Aleppo is a pro-government city.


Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 03 Aug 2012 10:05
by pentaiah
CNNs Anderson Cooper reported yesterday that Bangla Deshis and PAkis are operating in Syria.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 03 Aug 2012 10:29
by Altair
pentaiah wrote:CNNs Anderson Cooper reported yesterday that Bangla Deshis and PAkis are operating in Syria.
They might be looking to get their hands on the chemical weapons. It is not easy but Unkil will sell us down the river for greater good.
Few Indians killed does not matter. PM is not going to loose his sleep over it. India must be very much aware of the implications if those weapons reach ISI/Paki hands. It will be showcased in Delhi or Mumbai as a CBM for Paki FDI in India.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 03 Aug 2012 14:43
by Austin

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 03 Aug 2012 20:36
by Pranav
Good news coming in from Aleppo -
Rebel resistance collapses in key suburbs - http://blogs.reuters.com/thinking-globa ... y-suburbs/

The Syrian rebels fighting the forces of Assad have fallen in key districts of their stronghold Salah Al Deen in Aleppo. This comes hours after the army has announced that it has destroyed the communication network provided by Turkey. Earlier the rebel forces have complained that they are running low on ammunition as the city has been completely surrounded by government forces, coupled with lack of communications, has left the rebels in disarray. Several trucks with mounted heavy machine guns have been destroyed, leading to the deaths of 20 rebels.

According to footage on the ground, the rebel forces in Aleppo have failed to take Aleppo Citadel, contrary to earlier reported news. A journalist on the ground, Hussein Murtada, has reported that an attempt to damage the ancient Citadel’s walls by rebel missiles was repelled by security forces, resulting in the death of General Mustafa Al Sheikh and Abdul Jabar Aqede, field Marshals of the Free Syrian Army in Aleppo.

Columns of Syrian tanks were seen entering the city earlier in the day, suggesting that the army was ready to route out all resistance in the western districts which have presence of rebel forces who have evicted residents from the area.



Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 03 Aug 2012 20:58
by pentaiah
That is so predictable because of US elections and it is the most opportune time for Israel to do its thing.

More than Iran it puts om baba admin under pressure to co opt or supply more lethal weapons and or intelligence resources

(ps I did not read the report link)

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 03 Aug 2012 21:43
by shyamd
These statements are coordinated and part of the regional strategy. The most opportune time is just before the elections as the negative effects won't reach until after.

Obama can't really improve the economy so easily, so he could pull a stunt before they go to the polls.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 03:53
by shyamd
Big battle expected this weekend in Aleppo. Reports of troops being moved from Latakia to Aleppo and FSA is also moving troops. Right now strategy is to tire the regime out and make them spend as much ammo/attrition. Holding territory will come later

NYT said today that Asad helicopters - only half are flying and that too poor maintenance and they are being pushed hard. They have started cannibalise some parts.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 07:39
by Theo_Fidel
^^^^^

Reuters was hacked. The post above is bogus. Hope some admins sees what is going on.....

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2 ... ters-blog/

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 10:30
by Multatuli
Until now the Syrian state has reacted to events imposed on them from outside. This is a losing strategy. They have to take the battle to the enemy. The US/Turkey/Saudi Arabia/Europe have created massive instability in Syria, they have caused total economic dislocation.

So Syria has to do the same to them in concert with Iran.

For example:

It's now summer holiday season in most West European countries and Spain, Italy, Greece, Turkey and France are favourite holiday destinations. The local tourist industry in those countries depend on the income generated in this season, particularly Spain. We also know that Spain and Italy face a possible financial crisis.

Now imagine what the effect of coordinated attacks with CW's and better yet Biological weapons in holiday resorts in Spain, Italy, Turkey and if possible other European countries would do. It would create mass panic/hysteria and millions would break off their holiday or cancel it, resultion in the loss of billions of Euro's in revenue. This would turn the possible financial crisis in a certainty, and not even Germany would be able to bailout Spain, Italy and the other Euro profligates.

What about radicalizing sections of the Turkish population, this would ruin any chance Turkey has of joining the EU. This is of course a long term project. What is needed today are attacks of Kurdish Freedom Fighters/the Free Kurdish Army on Turkish military/police and above all economic targets (pay them back in the same coin). Turkey is of course the grand prize, as destabilization and Islamic radicalization there will have a profound impact on European security. But it won't be easy.

How about destabilizing Jordan? Even if Syria/Iran can't force a regime change there, they should be able to create total chaos and widespread death and destruction. Use the ethnic divide there.

And let me again stress the importance of stockpiling CW's and BW's in North Africa. From there one can move the material to all of West Europe within a day, and it's impossible for the European governments to intercept all the shipments.

The possibilities are almost endless, but Syria and Iran have to be bold and creative. Now is the time to act.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 10:37
by pentaiah
I am glad Assad is more rational than your thought process indicates.
CW and Bio weapons are crimes against Humanity that in itself should be enough deterrent to even think about it. Think about it.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 10:54
by habal
An attack on southern Europe was predicted by some astrologer long time ago. Was it Nostradamus ? Muslims or someone from middle-east invading Vatican etc was predicted.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 11:28
by Multatuli
Concerning moral objections against the use of CW's and BW's, "crime against humanity", and that sort of nonsense. Well, really...

It is only in response to a much bigger crime against humanity, think of the millions killed in Iraq as consequence of US/European aggression and terrorism, the destabilization of Libya and now Syria that I advocate the use of such weapons. The world we live in is a jungle of the worst kind, the law of the strongest holds, and the strongest happens to be an utterly selfish psychopath. In such conditions the use of CW's and BW's is entirely justified.

These same psychopaths gave Paki's nuclear weapons to nuke India. I believe the US and Europe are capable of anything to keep the non-white, non-western people down and loot their resources. I would admire President Asad if he punished those who have attacked Syria through jihadi terrorists/mercenaries.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 11:30
by shyamd
Theo_Fidel wrote:^^^^^

Reuters was hacked. The post above is bogus. Hope some admins sees what is going on.....

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2 ... ters-blog/
???

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 11:30
by Theo_Fidel
The problem of course is that NATO has the fire power to reduce Assad to ruin if it felt like. Modern history is the only time when one side has over whelming fire power and does not use it. The Roman never hesitated to slap around the local population or exterminate a nation or two.

Paki nukes were given by Panda...
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Shyam, not you baba, the Reuters post above by you know who....

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 11:54
by Multatuli
If NATO used it's firepower to pulverize Syria, then they would show their true face, and that is something they can not do. It is not their modus operandi to directly attack target countries, instead they use non-state actors/"freedom fighters", like they did against the Soviet Union and like the Paki's do against India, with the full knowledge and backing of the West. The Western attitude regarding Paki crimes against India is mirrored by the attitude of the WKK's/Ultra Seculars/RNI's in India.

As for The Lizard gifting nukes to Paki's: it's a joint project between the West and The Lizard.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 12:09
by shyamd
UN - 134 members vote for transfer of power in Syria and thus ends the calls for political reform

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 12:14
by habal
You need to understand the mentality of the elite system in place in US/Euro. They live in mortal fear and dread that something dharmic is about to challenge and is the only challenge to their empire of illusion or deception, which will slowly morph into something more sinister, once they gain more control over various variables of unpredictability (in their perception). And thus the attack against various neutral regimes that offer space to its citizens in the middle-east. What replaces these neutral regimes shows what their plan is.

These elites live in mortal dread of a dharmic entity coming and destroying their make believe world and just maybe these folks have better knowledge of the dashavatar than we do and study our scriptures and understand their significance even better than we do. They are thus currently busy taking steps to negate all the potential allies that such an entity could have in future. Doesn't it sound too fictional to be true, but that is exactly what these buffoons are thinking. And exactly for those reasons after their mid-east campaign is over and they have quashed all regimes with even a vaguely neutral ideology and replaced them with religious fanatics they will turn their attention to "India-Pakistan".

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 16:19
by shyamd
Muslim Brotherhood establishes militia inside Syria
The Muslim Brotherhood has established its own militia inside Syria as the country's rebels fracture between radical Islamists and their rivals, commanders and gun-runners have told The Daily Telegraph.
Syria: Assad regime launches new offensive against rebels as the UN talks

Syrian refugees at the Turkey- Syria border in Hatay Photo: EPA

By Ruth Sherlock, Richard Spencer in Beirut

6:48PM BST 03 Aug 2012

Calling itself the "Armed Men of the Muslim Brotherhood", the militia has a presence in Damascus as well as opposition hot spots like Homs and Idlib. One of their organisers, who called himself Abu Hamza, said that he started the movement along with a member of the Syrian National Council (SNC), the opposition alliance.

"We saw there were civilians with weapons inside, so we decided to co-operate with them and put them under one umbrella," he said.

Hossam Abu Habel, whose late father was in Syria's Muslim Brotherhood in the 1950s, said that he raised $40-50,000 (£25,000-£32,000) a month to supply Islamist militias in Homs province with weapons and other aid.

The militias he funded were not affiliated to the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the main rebel movement, added Mr Abu Habel.

"Our mission is to build a civil country but with an Islamic base," he said. "We are trying to raise awareness for Islam and for jihad."

The Syrian wing of the Muslim Brotherhood has been revitalised by the organisation's success in Egypt, where it won both parliamentary and presidential elections.

In the early days of the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, secular and Islamist rebels were both prepared to fight under the FSA's banner and recognise the SNC as their political masters.

But the FSA, dominated by defectors from the regime's army, has fallen out with the SNC, whose leaders are in exile. It now has its own political front, the Syrian Support Group (SSG). This split has divided the revolution's main international backers, with Saudi Arabia supporting the FSA and Qatar moving closer to the SNC and the Islamist militias.

The divisions are affecting operations on the ground: competing militias co-operate when necessary but otherwise disavow each other. "I would take it as an insult if you described me as FSA," said Abu Bakri, a front line commander of an Islamist militia in Aleppo calling itself the Abu Emara Battalion.

One activist described how he was working with Sunni politicians in Lebanon to buy arms for the FSA with Saudi money.

A member of the FSA command centre, located in neighbouring Turkey, told the Daily Telegraph that they have this week received large consignments of ammunition, machine guns and anti-tank missiles. At one point Saudi Arabia and Qatar were both funding the FSA, with the command centre receiving up to $3 million in cash every month. But the operative said the situation had changed.

"Now we are not working with the Qataris because they made so many mistakes supporting other groups."

But the fracturing of the armed opposition raises the prospect of post-Assad Syria becoming a battleground. "This adds to the fragmentation and tones down the credibility of the opposition," said Louay Sakka, the SSG's Executive Director. "Supporters should go through the proper channel of the Free Syrian Army military council rather than build their own militias."

Amr al-Azm, a Syrian-American academic who was briefly on the SNC, said that Syria risked the same kind of disintegration that was set in motion by Saddam Hussein's downfall in neighbouring Iraq. The West's decision to limit its involvement in the Syrian conflict – and refrain from supplying lethal weapons – had left a gap for the Islamists to fill.

"By playing to your own fears, you are making them come true," said Mr Azm. "By not intervening, you are forcing people to go those who have resources. No one wants to go to al-Qaeda, but if you are down to your last five bullets and someone asks you to say 'Allahu Akbar' (God is greatest) five times, you do it."

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 16:59
by gunjur
Q to gurus, why is turkey so itchy about kurds having their own zone in syria. kurds have their own zone in irag for few years now. So why big ruckus now?? Infact kurds in iraq and turks are getting closer and closer (Even more surprising is that even iraqi kurds have issued warnings to their fellow kurds in syria about any mischief making. Atleast wrt iraqi kurds, maybe one can say that it's west actually talking via iraqi kurds). But why turkey, iirc even syrian kurdish region contains oil, so more revenue to turks right?? Or is this warnings etc are all just for show??

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 17:19
by shyamd
Problem is the Syrian Kurdish groups in control of territory are controlled by the PYD (allied to the PKK) which has been fighting Turkish troops with the support of Syria and they are siding with Asad.

Iraqi Kurds want an autonomous state in Syria and tey think it's achievable only if Asad is toppled.

I've explained this in the previous pages more in detail

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 18:04
by gunjur
Iraqi Kurds want an autonomous state in Syria and tey think it's achievable only if Asad is toppled.
I maybe wrong, but i feel that a) syria will not fracture like iraq(i.e. each group having their own regions). A central figure like assad (a sunni arab) will hold the reigns(This is certainly what GCC and turkey want) or b) each viable group will have their own country(Having seen what is happening in iraq with daily/weekly bombs going off, these groups would rather have their own place). Too much blood has been spill for reconciliation. But will people on ground be allowed their choice???


Edit: Also any reasons why india abstained from voting in UN assembly when they voted in security council against assad??

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 19:13
by Pranav
Theo_Fidel wrote:Modern history is the only time when one side has over whelming fire power and does not use it.
They would love to use firepower like in Libya but they need to maintain the facade which is why the use of mercenaries.

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012 22:28
by shyamd
Fighting breaks out between presidential guard and FSA just 100m from palace.

Helicopters called in and they are shelling the area outside the palace!! Constant explosions and machine gun fire

200 FSA soldiers heading straight into central Damascus in their cars! Heavy fighting going on outside the palace and asads house next to the palace. Asad forces rushing troops into the area and shelling as well as helicopters firing

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 05 Aug 2012 01:19
by Samudragupta
Eventually Iran has to send troops into Syria....

Re: Syrian Resistance : Strategy and long term implications.

Posted: 05 Aug 2012 02:13
by shyam
Theo_Fidel wrote:The problem of course is that NATO has the fire power to reduce Assad to ruin if it felt like. Modern history is the only time when one side has over whelming fire power and does not use it. The Roman never hesitated to slap around the local population or exterminate a nation or two.
People forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki so fast......