Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul 2014

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 25 Jul 2014 17:55

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 25 Jul 2014 17:59

Shahbaz visits tortured 10-year-old boy in Gujrat

Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif visited 10-year-old Tabassum Shahzad, a boy whose hands were chopped off allegedly by a landlord’s son in Gujrat, DawnNews reported.

On July 21, Ghulam Mustafa, the son of influential landowner Ghulam Ghous, allegedly pushed the minor on to a water pumping machine in Chak Bula village on the outskirts of Gujrat over a petty dispute, which left his limbs severed from his body.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 25 Jul 2014 18:05

Army to be given control of Islamabad security for three months

The army will take control of Islamabad’s security from August 1 for three months under Article 245.

Nisar said the decision to allow Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) to hold a protest in Islamabad will be given when Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif returns to the country. Nisar added that the PTI had not given the request for the rally to the Deputy Commissioner Islamabad

we know how 20+ yrs of security under Rangers has made Karachi so safe. Looks like slumbad will soon follow the old capitals footsteps

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 25 Jul 2014 18:07

5 injured in firing on Youm-e-Quds rally in Karachi

KARACHI: Three women were among the five injured during firing at a bus taking part in the Youm-e-Quds rally here on Friday.

The attack took place on Shara-e-Faisal when unknown gunmen opened fire on the bus.

Following the attack there was a traffic jam on Shara-e-Faisal.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 25 Jul 2014 18:37

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan 'working' to give India MFN status - DT
Pakistan said on Thursday that it was working to give India the “most-favoured nation” status.
Islamabad said it would re-start work on improving trade ties with arch-rival India when the two nations’ foreign ministers meet in Islamabad next month.{Oh, this is just to get the 'peace talks' re-started. Every Indian Government wants to have a first-hand experience of Pakistani perfidy.} Pakistan had pledged to grant India “Most Favoured Nation (MFN)” status by the end of 2012, meaning Indian exports would be treated the same as those from other nations, but so far has not done so. India granted Pakistan MFN status in 1999. “When the dialogue process resumes, we hope to build on the work already done in this regard,” {The next steps are lying with Pakistan for the last 3 years. What is there 'to build on the work already done'? India has nothing more to offer, Or, wait, has it?} Foreign Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry said at a weekly press briefing. The foreign secretaries of Pakistan and India are set to meet in Islamabad on August 25 in the neighbouring countries’ latest attempt at improving ties.

The proposed meeting, announced by Pakistan’s Foreign Office on Wednesday, comes after Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif held talks with his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi in New Delhi following the Hindu hardliner’s inauguration in May. Chaudhry said there were number of issues on both sides for normalising bilateral trade which included “making sure that vulnerable sectors are protected and the issue of the non-tariff barriers in India and the issue of imbalance of trade and certain other infrastructure-related issue.” {Pakistan is building a fresh case for further talks on MFN. He is surreptitiously inserting this clause, "both sides have a number of issues". There is nothing on the Indian side.}

MFN status will mean India can export 6,800 items to Pakistan, up from around 2,000 at present, and the countries aim to lift bilateral trade to $6 billion within three years, officials have said. Trade between the two countries is presently around $2.5 billion, with Indian exports accounting for $1.75 billion, according to the Karachi Chamber of Commerce and Industry. A futher $3 billion is thought to be channelled through Dubai, almost all of it in Pakistani imports, though the business community believes that if Pakistan grants India MFN status the imbalance could change..

Bakistan CAN NOT give MFN status because it has given it to China. Most Favored Nation can be given to only one country other wise it is a big lie. Bakistani Babus are working to count what will be India's number in MFN list. AAhhhhhA they have found it. It will be 197th Most Favoured Nation, right after ISIS.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 25 Jul 2014 18:44

India summons Pakistan envoy over 26/11 trial delay

Pakistan rakes up Samjhauta Express blast as India protests 26/11 trial delay

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Jul 2014 19:29

abhishek_sharma wrote:Pakistan rakes up Samjhauta Express blast as India protests 26/11 trial delay

The foolish Congress Governments have caused us great harm in the past. One of them was the announcement of ceasefire in 1948 and taking the Kashmir Issue to the UN. This created a logjam for us unable to move in any direction except as determined by the US, UK & Pakistan. Then, in order to get Muslim votes and discredit the majority community, the Man Mohan Singh government created the fig leaf of Hindu terror as the cause for Samjhota. I won't be surprised if the US was involved in spinning this story so that it can advise both the nations that it was now equal and they should therefore forget the past and move forward in the direction shown by it. So, we have another logjam now.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 25 Jul 2014 19:53

SSridhar wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:Pakistan rakes up Samjhauta Express blast as India protests 26/11 trial delay
The foolish Congress Governments have caused us great harm in the past. One of them was the announcement of ceasefire in 1948 and taking the Kashmir Issue to the UN. This created a logjam for us unable to move in any direction except as determined by the US, UK & Pakistan. Then, in order to get Muslim votes and discredit the majority community, the Man Mohan Singh government created the fig leaf of Hindu terror as the cause for Samjhota. I won't be surprised if the US was involved in spinning this story so that it can advise both the nations that it was now equal and they should therefore forget the past and move forward in the direction shown by it. So, we have another logjam now.

For a while the US SD website had Arif Qasmani, Illyas Kashmiri and Brigade 313 as the main suspects behind the Samjotha Express blasts. I cannot find that information on the site anymore. But Illyas Kashmiri continues to be listed as "wanted" for other crimes on the SD website.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2011/04/160071.htm

However, the US treasury website continues to list LeT/Arif Qasmani as the perpetrators of the Samjotha blast.

http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/pr ... tg192.aspx

So it appears like the plan to pin the blame on "saffron terror" was UPAs own design.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 25 Jul 2014 22:41

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan 'working' to give India MFN status - DT

Looks to me like Pakistanis are generally convinced that MFN matters for India, and so it is using MFN as a way to "squeeze" concessions out of India each time there are some sort of official talks.

I am guessing that paki MFN has very little actual value for India but India allows Pakistan to go on believing the opposite, knowing that Pakis are hardly in a position to give India anything that is "most favored" ever. This allows India to keep paki demands at bay.

Who are the players in Indian establishment who might actually believe in the value of paki trade, MFN etc., meaning they are willing to give pak something in exchange for this " favor?"

Is there a way to shunt aside these players?

What are the chances of Pakis actually calling India's bluff and doing the MFN deal?

What would India's response in such a case?

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 26 Jul 2014 06:13

Pakistan will never be able to grant India the MFN as this will go against their very raisin dieter, and against Islam too.

An Isamic nation like Pakistan by the diktat of its Holy Book, can not grant MFN to the very people (Christians, Jews, Hindus, and the rest of the Infidels) it's supposed to be in perennial fight with.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Jul 2014 06:29

KLNMurthy wrote:
Who are the players in Indian establishment who might actually believe in the value of paki trade, MFN etc., meaning they are willing to give pak something in exchange for this " favor?"

Is there a way to shunt aside these players?

What are the chances of Pakis actually calling India's bluff and doing the MFN deal?

What would India's response in such a case?

Pakistan imports a lot more from India than India from Pakistan. But Indian goods are routed via Dubai - which makes them more expensive and fills the pockets of Dubai importers and exporters - at least some of whom are Paki criminal enterprises - probably including Dawood Ibrahim, the army and people who donate generously to the Jamaat ud dawa. Direct imports across the border from India will cause those businesses to fold up, apart from making Indian goods far cheaper than they are now - which some Paki businessmen fear will cause their businesses to shut down from the competition.

I personally doubt that Paki will do an MFN. if they do - they will do it on the same day that the conclude the 26/11 trials and hand Hafiz Saeed over for execution in India.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Jul 2014 06:37

MFN or "Most Favoured Nation" is a case of a "You farted" title that has backfired.

It means nothing much. It does not mean that the nation gets any special favours. By default all nations are supposed to be MFN - which is in the genre of "All humans are my brothers and sisters". If import restrictions are placed - then MFN goes - it is a way of saying "I don't want your stuff"

In the case of Pakistan not granting India MFN - they are cutting their nose to spite their face as usual - so it;s a laugh for India to keep poking them on this issue. But from the Paki viewpoint I think MFN is a "heads we lose, tails India wins" proposition. Pakistan would rather choose "heads we lose" than concede "tails India wins".

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Jul 2014 07:44

DoCJi, I agree, but MFN actually benefits TSP to the extent that they will get huge PR boost from the WKK and Track-II perverts in India who control the discourse. Can you imagine NDTV, Chindu etc going berserk about how much TSP has "changed", how TSP desires piss you name it, the moment TSP announces that.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Jul 2014 07:47

SSridharJi,

Indeed, but I'd like to see how the Modi govt responds. Preliminary indications are that he as confused in dealing with TSP as his predecessors with gas pipeline to TSP in the budget etc. Plus, he has to watch every move he makes lest he be branded as an extremist. (But I will give him time and hope he does something different)

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Jul 2014 08:08

CRamS wrote:DoCJi, I agree, but MFN actually benefits TSP to the extent that they will get huge PR boost from the WKK and Track-II perverts in India who control the discourse. Can you imagine NDTV, Chindu etc going berserk about how much TSP has "changed", how TSP desires piss you name it, the moment TSP announces that.

That may be so - but this is a problem we have to live with. There are a bunch of people who either see change or foresee change in Pakistan all the time.

It would be worth applying the same standards when we speak of Indians dealing with Pakistan, as we apply when we speak of Indians dealing with America. For example we are always certain that a bunch of Indians is being paid off handsomely by America to say and do certain things. We believed that MMS was constantly after the Nobel Peace prize. In other words we saw Indians as being in a transactional relationship in which they were being paid off by behaving in a particular way.

We can apply that same standard to WKKs. Let us say that they are being "paid off" for this transactional behaviour. Now it turns out that an MFN deal with Pakistan pays so few people so little that the WKKs will still remain a minority, even if they are a vocal minority.

If a relationship with Pakistan affects say 10% of Indians positively and benefits 10% of Indians - nothing that you or I say will stop India from doing those deals with Pakistan because it is a transactional relationship and not an emotional relationship. Indians will simply be "following the money". But if a relationship with Pakistan affects say a small minority of Indians and the rest either don't care or see Pakistan negatively - WKK and MFN will not work no matter how much noise is made. India being India being as free for people as the much bandied about Amrica model freedom - we cannot stop WKK or emotional relationships. But ultimately it is the money that will count.

If America really does not allow the sort of freedom that India allows in terms of relationships with the enemy, then all talk of freedom, American style, need to come to an end. Indians are free to deal with Pakistan within some limits. There is no way of coercing people to stop - certainly not by quoting egregious examples of how America or some other nation deals with Pakistan. There is nothing in MFN that allows India to pay Pakistan for nothing as America does.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Jul 2014 10:38

Senior journalist, Nawa-i-Waqt head Majid Nizami dies - DT

This dead guy has, on a few occasions, expressed a desire to tie a nuke bomb around his belly and explode over an Indian city. Alla'h who has always been so cruel to Pakistan and Pakistanis, in spite of Pakistan being the only state founded on Islam, ignored his wish till the end and instead gave him a heart disease. Poor chap.

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Jul 2014 10:42

SSridhar wrote:Senior journalist, Nawa-i-Waqt head Majid Nizami dies - DT

This dead guy has, on a few occasions, expressed a desire to tie a nuke bomb around his belly and explode over an Indian city. Alla'h who has always been so cruel to Pakistan and Pakistanis, in spite of Pakistan being the only state founded on Islam, ignored his wish till the end and instead gave him a heart disease. Poor chap.

Was just going to post that along with the now unfulfilled desire.

On Nizami's desire per Guardians Declan Walsh (Clicky):

“Media tycoon named Majid Nizami who once expressed a desire to strap himself to a nuclear missile bound for India."

Did Nizami not also tell Shekhar Gupta (?) that he had told Zia-Ul-Haq that he would only visit India by driving in a battle tank to New Delhi

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Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Jul 2014 10:45

SSridhar wrote:Senior journalist, Nawa-i-Waqt head Majid Nizami dies - DT

This dead guy has, on a few occasions, expressed a desire to tie a nuke bomb around his belly and explode over an Indian city. Alla'h who has always been so cruel to Pakistan and Pakistanis, in spite of Pakistan being the only state founded on Islam, ignored his wish till the end and instead gave him a heart disease. Poor chap.

I was abpout to post the News . Poor Nizami , Naa Hoor Milli Naa Hindustan, Maloom thaa usko apna Maakam, Inbred Paki Kaa Yahi Hai Injaam, Jahannum Jise kehte Hai subb Insan. BC harami,Jinda bhi Haram orr Marra Bhi Haram.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 26 Jul 2014 11:00

Pakistani-American kid attempting to set new flying record with his dad crashes into the Pacific.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... crash.html

He was flying for a charity called Citizens Foundation, a Pakistani charity to help underprivileged kids. Oddly enough, the donation page for the trip (http://www.gofundme.com/8pshds) shows about $13,500 raised so far, mostly donated after news of his and his dad's death, so I'm not certain how much was going to go the charity in the first place. It seemed to have less funding than his fuel costs alone! Also, his uncle is the Pakistani Air Vice Marshall, so the family is pretty connected -- they immigrated to the US in the 80s. What was interesting is that they were attempting to fly across the Pacific in a Beechcraft Bonanza (a single engine aircraft with a ferry range of around 1000 miles) and overloaded it with extra fuel to attempt the long hop. I'm guessing all that extra fuel weight contributed to the crash.

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Jul 2014 11:02

More of media baron Majid Nizami’s desires:

Mr Nizami has changed his rationale for initiating a nuclear war with India. The Nawa-i-Waqt (Nov 5, 2008) quoted him as saying: “Pakistan should not hesitate to use nuclear weapons to wrest Kashmir from India”. He had also said that his fondest wish was to turn himself into a nuclear bomb and get dropped on India. In the 1980s, General Zia once invited him to accompany him to India. He angrily turned down the invitation saying “If I ever go to India, I will travel by tank.”

See more at:

His fondest wish was to turn himself into a nuclear bomb and get dropped on India

Regards the tank stuff, Google’s cache of Nizami’s own News Paper, The Nation:

Nizami vows to continue serving national interest
March 24, 2010 Sajid Zia

He {i.e. Nizami} said Ziaul Haq once invited him to visit India with him but he told him that he was ready for this if Zia would be going on a tank.

From here:

Clicky

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 26 Jul 2014 12:12

ArmenT wrote:. I'm guessing all that extra fuel weight contributed to the crash.

Does any one care as long as the Packeeey crashes over uninhabited areas?

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 26 Jul 2014 12:28

Jhujar wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Senior journalist, Nawa-i-Waqt head Majid Nizami dies - DT

This dead guy has, on a few occasions, expressed a desire to tie a nuke bomb around his belly and explode over an Indian city. Alla'h who has always been so cruel to Pakistan and Pakistanis, in spite of Pakistan being the only state founded on Islam, ignored his wish till the end and instead gave him a heart disease. Poor chap.
I was abpout to post the News . Poor Nizami , Naa Hoor Milli Naa Hindustan, Maloom thaa usko apna Maakam, Inbred Paki Kaa Yahi Hai Injaam, Jahannum Jise kehte Hai subb Insan. BC harami,Jinda bhi Haram orr Marra Bhi Haram.

Jujhar ji, Sorry I tweeted part of that without your permission but too good not to tweet it

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 26 Jul 2014 14:54

>>This dead guy has, on a few occasions, expressed a desire to tie a nuke bomb around his belly and explode over an Indian city.

As it happens, he only succeeded in loading himself with biriyani and exploding over track thoo "moots" - providing appropriate background to aiyars blabbering...

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 26 Jul 2014 16:15

Dubai airport issues warning to PIA

LAHORE: The Dubai International Airport authorities have issued back to back warnings to the Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) over its failure to adhere to time slot allocated to it and the practice of changing aircraft without intimation.

Cheers

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 26 Jul 2014 18:32

Mahendra wrote:
ArmenT wrote:. I'm guessing all that extra fuel weight contributed to the crash.
Does any one care as long as the Packeeey crashes over uninhabited areas?

Paki.
Airplane.
Something new.

Not good for anybody.

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Jul 2014 19:16

X Posted from the Oppression Of Minorities In Pakistan Thread.

There is no compulsion in Islam

:

Four Ahmadis booked for ‘preaching’

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 26 Jul 2014 19:57

ArmenT wrote:Pakistani-American kid attempting to set new flying record with his dad crashes into the Pacific.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... crash.html

He was flying for a charity called Citizens Foundation, a Pakistani charity to help underprivileged kids. Oddly enough, the donation page for the trip (http://www.gofundme.com/8pshds) shows about $13,500 raised so far, mostly donated after news of his and his dad's death, so I'm not certain how much was going to go the charity in the first place. It seemed to have less funding than his fuel costs alone! Also, his uncle is the Pakistani Air Vice Marshall, so the family is pretty connected -- they immigrated to the US in the 80s. What was interesting is that they were attempting to fly across the Pacific in a Beechcraft Bonanza (a single engine aircraft with a ferry range of around 1000 miles) and overloaded it with extra fuel to attempt the long hop. I'm guessing all that extra fuel weight contributed to the crash.

This, I can comment on with confidence. Finally a post with many interests in the right place. Allah be praised, I dont have to apologize for this one.

Anyway, no one was giving two hoots (yes, count them, its half a hoot after the crash) about the flying, or the record. So the gents decided to do a Sullenburger III maneuver instead. Instead of fame, hoors were obtained. So there is a consolation prize.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 26 Jul 2014 20:04

Peregrine wrote:Dubai airport issues warning to PIA
LAHORE: The Dubai International Airport authorities have issued back to back warnings to the Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) over its failure to adhere to time slot allocated to it and the practice of changing aircraft without intimation.
Cheers

la Whore too? Will they have to take tge rapid bus transit to macca then? Oh, woe is me. How am I to now carry out my brilliant scheme of shipping indian gas via dubai?

Perhaps it will have to be a shipment of chana via the track II diplomacy now. The good thing is it was always a fall back upon plan, and its more sustainable, reduces poverty and hunger and provides employment. One extra rail wagon of employees in gas fired train, lo and behold, perpetual motion machine.*
** chinese locomotives incompatible.
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*Also reduces cancer (studies say smelling hydrogen sulphide is only second to djinn medicine in killing cancer) thus, a mobile hospital. subject to chana availability.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 26 Jul 2014 20:34

Jhujar wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Senior journalist, Nawa-i-Waqt head Majid Nizami dies - DT

This dead guy has, on a few occasions, expressed a desire to tie a nuke bomb around his belly and explode over an Indian city. Alla'h who has always been so cruel to Pakistan and Pakistanis, in spite of Pakistan being the only state founded on Islam, ignored his wish till the end and instead gave him a heart disease. Poor chap.
I was abpout to post the News . Poor Nizami , Naa Hoor Milli Naa Hindustan, Maloom thaa usko apna Maakam, Inbred Paki Kaa Yahi Hai Injaam, Jahannum Jise kehte Hai subb Insan. BC harami,Jinda bhi Haram orr Marra Bhi Haram.

Naa Hoor Milli Naa Hindustan,
Maloom thaa usko apna Maakam,
Inbred Paki Kaa Yahi Hai Injaam,
Jahannum Jise kehte Hai subb Insan
. BC harami,Jinda bhi Haram orr Marra Bhi Haram

Wah ji wah. I wanted to translate it to Urdu for greater benefit of humanity.

disha · Post by **disha** » 26 Jul 2014 21:00

Proud day for Saud Asians at commonwealth games today!

A. Baki won silver in shooting!

All Saud Asians rejoice....

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 26 Jul 2014 21:37

disha wrote:Proud day for Saud Asians at commonwealth games today!

A. Baki won silver in shooting!

All Saud Asians rejoice....

I am condefused. who? when?

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 26 Jul 2014 23:30

Six killed in blasts, attack

ISLAMABAD: A bomb killed at least two Pakistani soldiers in the tribal areas while four others, including two soldiers, died in land mine explosions.

The bomb attack occurred on Thursday evening near the border with Afghanistan just northwest of Miranshah – the main town of North Waziristan – a statement from the military said. “Two soldiers embraced shahadat (martyrdom) Thursday evening in an improvised explosive device blast in the Ghulam Khan area,” the statement said, issued late Thursday. Ghulam Khan is 20 kilometres northwest of Miranshah.

Elsewhere, two gunmen riding a motorbike on Friday opened fire on two police men on security duty on the outskirts of Quetta, killing both of them, police said. “One of the policemen died on the spot while the second succumbed to injuries in hospital,” a local senior police official Imran Qureshi told AFP. Meanwhile, two persons were killed in a roadside bomb blast in Tehsil Kolachi of Dera Ismail Khan. The victims were both traders who were heading towards Loni from Kolachi on a motorbike when a roadside bomb killed both of them.

Pakistan began the offensive against militants in mid-June following a brazen insurgent attack on Karachi airport that left dozens dead and a peace process with the Pakistani Taliban in tatters. More than 500 militants and 27 soldiers have been killed in the assault so far, according to the military, though their death toll for insurgents cannot be independently confirmed. More than 800,000 people have been forced to flee from North Waziristan by the assault, with most ending up in the nearby town of Bannu where they either live in government-run camps or pay high rents for private accommodation.

Cheers

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Jul 2014 23:45

"VikasRainaI was abpout to post the News . Poor Nizami , Naa Hoor Milli Naa Hindustan, Maloom thaa usko apna Maakam, Inbred Paki Kaa Yahi Hai Injaam, Jahannum Jise kehte Hai subb Insan. BC harami,Jinda bhi Haram orr Marra Bhi Haram.[/quoteJujhar ji, Sorry I tweeted part of that without your permission but too good not to tweet it

Please feel free to explore Paki any which way you desire.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Jul 2014 00:01

rsingh wrote:
SSridhar wrote:[akistan said on Thursday that it was working to give India the “most-favoured nation” status.Islamabad said it would re-start work on improving trade ties with arch-rival India when the two nations’ foreign ministers meet in Islamabad next month.[Bakistan CAN NOT give MFN status because it has given it to China. Most Favored Nation can be given to only one country other wise it is a big lie. Bakistani Babus are working to count what will be India's number in MFN list. AAhhhhhA they have found it. It will be 197th Most Favoured Nation, right after ISIS.

Folks must understand the Paki Dilemma and logistical problem. Pakistan is the world's most MFN= Mush F..Nation. This MF (N) privilege is/was denied to India only. Nou Indian can only extend MFN=Mine Flavoured Nation to/o Pakistan. Reciprocacy is not isuue here, Paki preparation for this holy event is .

disha · Post by **disha** » 27 Jul 2014 04:02

abhijitm wrote:
disha wrote:Proud day for Saud Asians at commonwealth games today!

A. Baki won silver in shooting!

All Saud Asians rejoice....
I am condefused. who? when?

Here : http://results.glasgow2014.com/medalists.html

Unfuze your Kaanfuze - search on the name of the Saud Asian!!

Tell you koofars do not have gulgul skills. :sigh:

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 27 Jul 2014 04:35

by Shiv
Same for sanitation.

There is no concept of sanitation in nPakistan. I saw it with my own eyes in 2005., every few yards the "Nali" goes into a ditch next to the highway.

All over the country (I also visited the countryside) it is the same story. Every 50-100 yards or so there is standing greenish water next to main highways into which all sewage flows. Thus there is a stink everywhere!!!

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 27 Jul 2014 05:36

SBajwa wrote: All over the country (I also visited the countryside) it is the same story. Every 50-100 yards or so there is standing greenish water next to main highways into which all sewage flows. Thus there is a stink everywhere!!!

Kufr Bajwa, don't you realize it is a sign of ATM in the land of pure! Islamic Republic of Pakistan was made to safeguard Islam. Greenish water is holy water and that is why it is found all over the place.

Onlee in Yindia do 70% of the people not have toilets, whereas in Pakistan, the whole country is a pakistan.

Let me remind you...

You are free; you are free to go to wherever in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed that has nothing to do with the business of the State.

arun · Post by **arun** » 27 Jul 2014 06:00

Indrani Bagchi interviews C Christine Fair:

It's surprising just how much jihad and Islam is actually in their publications. If the US army or India were to do this, it would be so controversial. What Pakistan is trying to do is use jihad to mobilize and to boost the morale of their troops so they are on perpetual war footing with India.

It's kind of demoralizing if you think you can't actually win against India. So the use of jihad is a way to make it seem as if everything the Pakistan army does is Islamically justified.

It's costly for Pakistan to maintain this competition, but they view defeat very differently. They don't view it in terms of territory lost or value of territory or number of lives lost. They view defeat as that moment when they can no longer resist India.

It is Zarb-e-bakwas. …………………………

What most people don't know is Senator Levin put in a proviso in FY 2015 that says if the Pakistanis don't do an operation in North Waziristan we're not going to give them $300 or $900 million. Now that they are done with this operation, the Pakistanis are making an argument in Washington DC that they should be given continued coalition support.

The irony is this: the Americans will help them kill as many terrorists as they will let them. But the Americans won't make them stop producing more terrorists.

Read it all:

For Pakistan, defeat is that moment when it can no longer resist India

arun · Post by **arun** » 27 Jul 2014 06:40

Sundry Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religious motivated sectarian violence in Karachi in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan during Ramadan / Ramazan month which followers of Mohammaddenism consider holy.

July 23:

Karachi: Senior lawyer shot dead in ‘sectarian’ attack

July 25:

Roadside vendor, barber killed in ‘sectarian’ attacks

July 27:

Prayer leader among three shot dead in Karachi

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Jul 2014 10:08

ArunJi,

Fair didi has it almost right, but for this:

For Pakistan, defeat is that moment when it can no longer resist India

Its not about resisting India, because India is not doing anything to TSP for it offer any resistance, but rather, for TSP, defeat is that moment when it can no longer brazenly provoke India and get away with it.