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jagga wrote:
"The bombs were detected minutes before a passenger train was to cross the bridge. The train was stopped 200 metres from the bombs."
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Bheeshma wrote:Are all 5 dead? I though one of the pigs was taken alive. Hope he is paraded like kasab to show paki hand and then executed swiftly.

partha wrote:It looks like pindi pigs wanted to blow up a train bridge in India to overcome the grief of the train 'accident' on a bridge in Pakjab earlier this month.

Gagan wrote:He pulled this theory out of his big musharraf that burning women is a Hindu tradition and the woman was made a 'sati' .

The terror strike in Gurdaspur, Punjab, is a tactical error by Pakistan. It extends its sponsorship of terrorism beyond Jammu & Kashmir to Punjab. Though Pakistan was deeply complicit in funding and arming Khalistani terrorists in Punjab in the 1980s and early 1990s, it soon shifted its focus to the Valley.

In the Valley, Pakistan hid behind the veil of the "freedom fighter" - saying it was merely providing moral support to the Kashmiri cause in a "disputed" territory. Punjab is not disputed territory. The Gurdaspur attack exposes the Pakistani establishment as a state sponsor of terrorism based not on ideology but on pathological enmity with India.

Pacifists want to engage with Pakistan. Dialogue is the only way forward, they say. Rajya Sabha MP Mani Shankar Aiyar continues to call for an "uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialogue."

Such carte blanche emboldens a rogue state like Pakistan to launch terrorist attacks on India with impunity and then quickly disown them to pressurise India to resume talks - on Pakistan's terms.

Hawks on the other hand urge the government to launch cross-border raids on Pakistani territory to inflict damage on terror camps (over 40 such camps reportedly exist, though in makeshift infrastructure).

There is, however, a middle way. I wrote this after an Indian soldier was beheaded by Pakistan in January 2013. The prescription on how to make Pakistan pay, without war and without doing nothing, is briefly this:

1. Diplomatic: We can downgrade Pakistan to consular status, allowing its embassy limited diplomatic functionality till Rawalpindi GHQ delivers on 26/11 Mumbai attack and the other terrorist-criminal acts it has perpetrated on India. Pakistan possesses whatever international credibility it has by being associated with India. Downgrade that relationship and you downgrade Pakistan internationally.

2. Economic: As with diplomatic relations, Pakistan needs India. India doesn't need Pakistan. Pakistan's GDP is barely 11 per cent of India's and growing at less than two per cent a year while India's is expanding at over seven per cent a year. India's trade volume (the sum of its global exports and imports) is over $700 billion and dwarfs Pakistan's. Make trade ties conditional to Pakistan delivering on terrorism.

3. Legal: India is unduly sensitive about "internationalising" its conflict with Pakistan. It should instead make it clear to the world that Pakistan's repeated bluff about holding a plebiscite over Kashmir's status is just that - bluff. All the 1948 UNSC resolutions Pakistan constantly refers to - and wilfully distorts - actually demand that Pakistan vacate PoK before a plebiscite can even be considered in Jammu & Kashmir.

Pakistan craves equivalence with India. It recognises it can't claim parity economically, militarily or diplomatically. The only way it can do so is to engage India in a permanent, low-intensity conflict. The Gurdaspur attack is part of this strategy of plausible deniability while inflicting damage on Indian soldiers, police and civilians. Rawalpindi knows that India, with its myriad governance problems, forgets and forgives easily: it's a matter of weeks before it's "business as usual". The Indian government lacks the stomach for a sustained battle of attrition. Hence Pakistan's rehearsed script: attack, deny, posture, engage.

The cowardly Gurdaspur attack by well-armed and -trained terrorists is an opportunity for Prime Minister Narendra Modi to make a strong public statement on Pakistan-sponsored terrorism and take questions from the media. This is the time to assert his leadership. The statement must spell out the government's broad intent and strategy on Pakistan. It need not disclose details of any covert operations on Pakistani soil that may or may not be under planning.

Home Minister Rajnath Singh is scheduled to make a statement on the Gurdaspur terror attack in parliament on Tuesday. It must reflect strong intent, not the mild remarks he initially made to the Press Trust of India (PTI).

National Security Advisory (NSA) Ajit Doval is an old hand on Pakistan-sponsored terrorism. It is important he too make a supplementary statement to the PM's, again without disclosing details of the strategy to counter Pakistani terrorism.

Anything less than this will not help India bring to an end the undeclared war that Pakistan has been waging on our border for decades. Unless Pakistan is made to pay, it will not stop.

Early inspection of data from global positioning sets carried by terrorists who carried out Monday’s attack in Gurdaspur suggests that the group launched its operation from across the border in Pakistan’s Shakargarh area, government sources have told The Indian Express. The sets recovered from the terrorists arrived in New Delhi Monday night for technical analysis. - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... 45V0Y.dpuf

Gagan wrote:This is a military that orders a terror strike because its civilian PM shook hands with the Hindu PM and didn't act like a Jihadi Paki and didn't display his pakistaniyat.

Gawd help us all...

Terrorists have no religion until it's time to hang them - then we find out the religion

Gagan wrote:Shiv saar
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Terrorists have no religion until it's time to hang them - then we find out the religion

shiv wrote:In a sense this is a test that is designed to demonstrate that Pakistan is not Myanmar

shiv wrote:http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... ocialMedia

Early inspection of data from global positioning sets carried by terrorists who carried out Monday’s attack in Gurdaspur suggests that the group launched its operation from across the border in Pakistan’s Shakargarh area, government sources have told The Indian Express. The sets recovered from the terrorists arrived in New Delhi Monday night for technical analysis. - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... 45V0Y.dpuf

shiv wrote:All Indians who show puzzlement at Pakistani actions make me sad and angry because they are all brainwashed enough to expect team behaviour from a crowd.

shiv wrote:Intel agencies have been crying themselves hoarse for the past couple of weeks. I admit that single attacks may not be preventable, but unless some elements in Pakistan feel pain there will be no change. Pakistan is heading towards a demographic explosion of young, Islamized and angry men. In India we will howl and cry that young people need education and employment. Imagine if India's elite really behaved like the stereotypical and totally mythical "Brahmin Bania" who lives for himself and does not give a damn for slavery, poverty or unemployment. Now that is exactly the behaviour that Pakistanis are showing. As long as we imagine that they need to, or will behave like Indians we will never "understand" Pakistan.

SBajwa wrote:I have 9 images forwarded to me by my relatives in Gurdaspur that show 5 dead terrorists! How do I share them?

A_Gupta wrote: All I am saying that you can't enter the mind of these Pakistanis without first becoming insane yourself.

Sorry if it is off-topic.

Bakistan is a geographical construct where three powers Allah, America and Army interesting in preserving their self are at play. Sometimes all three are at cross-purposes to each other but most of the time they are in bed with each other to ensure that their interests are perpetuated.

asgkhan wrote:Why can't we have

1. Sponsor rival terror groups which can occassionally carry out subversive activites in Rawalpindi and Lahore.
2. Set up a response system where for one Indian casualty, we send 20 Pakis to 4-nicate with their 72 dates.
3. I would rather spend the money on Balochistan than Afghanistan.

Simple steps but would pay off huge. In 72, all we did was support Mukti Bahini and the pukes went nuts and lost 1/2 their country.

Now we have the money, influence and a system willing to test the above scenario.

What is stopping us.

disha wrote:

Bakistan is a geographical construct where three powers Allah, America and Army interesting in preserving their self are at play. Sometimes all three are at cross-purposes to each other but most of the time they are in bed with each other to ensure that their interests are perpetuated.

shiv wrote: Perfect. The manner in which the Saudis are protected by the US while far lesser nations are demonized is an example of the way in which the concept of rational nation-state carries no weight when it comes to US interests.

We on BRF curse Nehru but we are ourselves weighed down by a Nehruvian world-view in which we see states like Pakistan as fellow nation states who are supposed to be like us but are showing "inexplicable" behaviour.

The answers should be obvious. All countries are not rational nation states but may be criminal enterprises that have been given the respectable title "nation" and a place in the UN gen assembly or even UNSC.

When a despotic criminal enterprise behaves in a way that is advantageous to a particular international order - it is supported and praised as a respectable member of the comity of nations. KSA and Pakistan are both like that. When a nation state opposes that order it is condemned to be attacked.

In short nations are not judged by their behaviour but by the value they give to others. The country can be a despotic misogynist Islamist state but if it gives value to some states - they will support it and deny that there is a problem. We have to look at what value Pakistan gives us.

By saying Pakistani are mad or Pakistan is absurd we are simply ignoring the fact that there are complex dynamics at work that cause this behaviour and we simply must punish those who hurt us.

It is laziness if we do not attempt to understand those dynamics and make every Indian aware of what we are dealing with. If that means punishing innocents as well it cannot be helped. if Hamas hides among civilians, civilians get killed.

rohitvats wrote: May be, going by the quality of manpower used and the stores they were carrying, the objectives were much grander but in each case, Pakistanis under-estimated the kind of risk such operations would face and we've managed to neutralize the situation before it becomes bigger. But that is only one angle. It still does not explain the WHY part.

Special Forces of the Army, known as para commandos, were airlifted from Samba to Dinanagar in Gurdaspur district of Punjab to finish off the operation and eliminate all three militants, who had taken positions inside the police station and were resorting to indiscriminate firing targeting the police personnel. Jammu and Kashmir Police also sent two bullet-proof bunkers, known as ‘Rakshak’ vehicles, to help Punjab Police in carrying out search operations.
Train traffic on Jalandhar-Jammu section and vehicular movement on Pathankot-Jammu National Highway, which was temporarily suspended from Punjab, was restored after some hours while BSF has sounded high alert along the International Border even as police conducted massive searches in the areas surrounding the borders to ensure that the militants didn’t sneak into this side.
Director General of Police (DGP) K Rajendra told the Excelsior that Jammu and Kashmir Police immediately rushed two bullet-proof ‘Rakshak’ vehicles (bunkers) to Dinanagar in Gurdaspur district of Punjab from Kathua on the requisition of their Punjab counterparts, which didn’t have such vehicles as the neighbouring State was not facing any major terror threat for past about two decades now.
“We were in constant touch with Punjab Police to assist them in whatever possible way we could. As soon as we received the request for bullet-proof bunkers, we dispatched them to Dinanagar from Kathua,’’ Rajendra said, adding the bunkers proved very useful for Punjab in entering inside the police station and carrying out operation against the militants.
Jammu and Kashmir Police has been very successfully using the bullet-proof bunkers in the operations against the terrorists.
Official sources said the Special Forces, known as para commandos of Army, were airlifted from Samba to Dinanagar, to finish off the operation and eliminate the militants, who had taken positions inside the police station after killing seven persons including SP (Detectives) Baljit Singh, three Home Guard jawans and three civilians and injuring 15 others, who included police personnel and civilians.
Sources said the Special Forces were airlifted on requisition as they were well trained in eliminating the militants by carrying out commando action.
“Three columns of Special Forces were airlifted from Samba. They reached Dinanagar around this noon, gained entry inside the police station and executed their task, very tactfully and successfully within an hour. The Special Forces returned to their bases after killing all three militants this evening without suffering any casualties,’’ sources said.
They added that the Special Forces of the Army had earlier also been used to eliminate the militants hiding inside sensitive installations as they were well trained in the commando actions.
“Apart from Special Forces, 9 Corps of the Army also dispatched its Bomb Disposal Squads from its headquarters of Yol Cantonment to defuse five powerful Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) planted by the militants along Pathankot-Amritsar track before striking at Dinanagar police station,’’ sources said, adding that the Squads defused the IEDs successfully, sanitized the track along with Railways police and restored train traffic.
The areas of Jammu, Samba and Kathua districts fall under 9 Corps of the Army, headquarters at Yol Cantonment in Himachal Pradesh.
IGP Railways MS Salaria told the Excelsior that the Railways Police immediately swung into action after getting the reports of the terror attack and planting of the IEDs along Pathankot-Amritsar track, bordering Jammu-Pathankot section. He said entire men and machinery at the disposal of three GRPs at Jammu, Katra and Srinagar were pressed into service to look for any suspicious devices.
Sources said train traffic on Jalandhar-Jammu section, which was temporarily suspended in the morning after terror attacks and reports of IEDs having been fitted at Pathankot, was restored within an hour after it was discovered that the IEDs had been planted on Pathankot-Amritsar section and not Pathankot-Jalandhar route, which is taken by all trains reaching Jammu from New Delhi and other destinations. Even Amritsar-Jammu train is taking Jalandhar route for past few days due to some technical problems.
Vehicular movement on Pathankot-Jammu National Highway was also suspended in the morning from Punjab side after the terror attack. However, traffic on Jammu-Kathua road continued uninterruptedly. Traffic on Pathankot-Jammu highway was also restored after about two hours of blockade as scene of gun fighting shifted to Dinanagar, about 14 kilometers from Pathankot.
According to sources, the BSF was maintaining high alert all along the International Border from Lakhanpur to Akhnoor. Police personnel of all three border districts including Jammu, Samba and Kathua conducted massive search operation in the border areas and the National Highway of Jammu-Pathankot to ensure that the militants didn’t manage to sneak into this side.
However, sources said, there were no tell tale signs along the International Border in Jammu sector to show that the militants had infiltrated from this side of the border.
“Nevertheless, we are not taking any chances. Entire police of three districts in the border areas was out on patrolling. Local people have also been involved and they were cooperating in keeping vigil on the strangers,’’ they added.
A Punjab Roadways bus bearing registration No. 9569 PB06G, which was targeted by the militants at Dinanagar before striking at the police station, had also left from Bamyal (Kathua) for Amritsar early this morning. The bus plies daily between Bamyal-Amritsar. Though seven persons were injured in the bus, there was no report of any of them hailing from Kathua

The final manoeuvre to nab the Lashkar-e-Taiba militants engaged in today’s encounter had to be rescheduled on several occasions with the Punjab Police top brass repeatedly denying permission to the Army to take control of the entire operation.
The first helicopter carrying scores of Army men landed at the PAU regional station grounds at 9.43 am after an SOS was sent to the Tibri cantonment officials by DC Abhinav Trikha. The DC, after being given feedback about the latest development by senior police officers around 8.30 am, held hectic confabulations with other administration officers at his camp office.
However, after getting feedback from SSP Gurpreet Singh Toor, the DC sensed that the situation had the potential to go out of hand. At 8.43 am he took a final call. The Army had to be called in. A phone call was placed to the Tibri cantonment officials and the Army was asked to reach Dinanagar as “some terrorists had taken control of a police station in Dinanagar.”
Receiving the information, the Army went on an overdrive. The first of nearly half a dozen choppers landed exactly an hour after the DC had requested the Army to be in a “state of preparedness.” The soldiers were driven from the PAU campus in trucks to the police station, 10 km away.
An hour later, the venue was surrounded by nearly 150 Army men. A senior officer confided that initially the Army officers took a measure of what exactly was going on. Later, around 11.50 am, a senior Army officer requested the Punjab Police to hand over the operation to them. However, he was asked to wait with a senior officer telling him that only DGP Sumedh Singh Saini could take such a decision. The cops were on their toes waiting for their boss to arrive. Finally, Saini reached the operation site around 1 pm - more than seven hours after the militants had fired the first bullet in the city at 5.30 am.
Later, he met the DC, IG (border range) Ishwar Chander Sharma, DIG Arun Kumar Mittal, SSPs of Gurdaspur, Pathankot and Majitha and other senior officials.
“We decided to engage them with intermittent fire till they run out of ammunition. However, when we were ready to take the operation to another level, news filtered in that the terrorists might be ‘human bombs’. Once again we had to change our plans,” he disclosed. At this time, the Army once again asked the police to let them take control. However, this time police officers told them that all intricacies of raiding the old DSP’s office, where the militants had taken refuge, had been worked out and that only the police would be undertaking this operation. Even the 140-odd NSG and SPG commandoes were kept at bay.
Some senior officers had veered around to the view that the Army should be handed over the reigns. However, due to some inexplicable reason, which was never made public, the Army was again asked to wait. A team of the BSF was pulled out from duty from the border and placed at the disposal of the police. Meanwhile, the Army personnel did not sit idle and launched a massive search operation.