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vimal wrote:...

sudarshan wrote:Delhi-ites still not bothered? Talk about "land acquisition" for real estate.

ManSingh wrote:I think this forum is on a very different tangent than what the govt thinks.

vimal wrote:Second one can be from anywhere in the world. and not really that many people.

Sachin wrote:A few colleagues of mine work out from Delhi/NCR region. As per them things are pretty much normal in Delhi city side. Nothing like non-availability of essential commodities or huge traffic blocks. So looks like there is also a foul play by the usual culprits - main stream media - to paint a larger than life picture of this protest.

chetak wrote:who is funding on this scale.

this is not an organic or even an indigenous protest for sure

In the USA, what we saw in the past few months could perhaps be considered as a prime example of the Left burning the country down to ashes and the worst face of radical democratic thought. With Donald Trump being the great disrupter in American politics, it did not really come as a surprise when ANTIFA, encouraged and egged on by the Liberal politicians and newsmen, proceeded to burn the country down.

While the apparent trigger was the death of George Floyd, and the merits of his death remain an issue for the USA to solve, the ultimate aim of the protests were extremely different. A disruptor had won, unseating the high and mighty cabal of the Left, and the people wanted blood.

For the Left, a democracy only works when their own people occupy the seat of power and the moment that momentum is disrupted, all bets are off. While ANTIFA thugs went around murdering Trump supporters, unleashing violence of the roads, rioting, looting stores and unleashing anarchy, the politicians and media persons not only pandered to the riotous mob, but also defended their unbridled violence.

So while Donald Trump wanted to ban ANTIFA, Left politicians and the media fanned the violence and even justified the carnage that was being left in the wake. With months of violence, what precipitated was the final break-down of patience and the result was for the world to see.

Once Trump supporters occupied Capitol Hill, the same politicians and media persons who were justifying ANTIFA violence, began to rue the death of democracy in America and how, the violence at Capitol Hill was the legacy of “fascist Trump”.

This phenomenon, however, did not occur in a vacuum. Truth be told, it has become the favoured tactic of the Left and the mainstream media. Their conduct has proved definitively that they are not averse towards violence, they are only opposed to it when their footsoldiers are the ones who have to suffer the consequences for the violence they themselves unleashed. In fact, I would go out on a limb and say that the Left wanted this.

When the Left unleashes violence, they are perfectly aware that violence is a two-way street. When people are pushed to a corner with months of carnage, the retaliation could possibly be brutal and imminent. For a cabal that seems to orchestrate large-scale violence, this possibility, this imminent possibility, was well evident. Therefore, it stands to reason that when the Left unleashes violence, part of their grand plan is to provoke a reaction so they can then paint their political opponents as the terrorists wanting to burn the country down when it was them who lit the fire.

There are important lessons that India can learn from this. The first and foremost being that anarchy on the streets will have consequences. When people see that a particular section of the country is allowed to hold cities at ransom, block highways and bring normal life to a halt because their demands haven’t been met and yet, no action is taken against them and they are allowed to run rampant, then other sections of society will also attempt the same.

It is only a matter of time before complete anarchy erupts if one section of society is constantly permitted to get away with holding cities at random. That is why it is so important that anarchy such as the farmer protests and Shaheen Bagh is not permitted to continue for long. Because it has debilitating effects on the health of a nation. If people come to believe that blocking highways is how one has his demands granted by policymakers, then voting and elections take a back seat.

When that happens, we do not have a democracy anymore. The Left should also be aware that actions have consequences. If they justify lawlessness and anarchy in the name of civil rights protests, it is only a matter of time before their opponents take the same route. And they may not like the results when that happens.

Sachin wrote:

ManSingh wrote:I think this forum is on a very different tangent than what the govt thinks.

Me too had got the PDF, but yet to make a detailed reading. But what is your thought on GoI plan? My gut feelings is that GoI does NOT want to alienate the Sikhs as a community, but will stick to its guns when it comes to the farm laws.

chetak wrote:Time magazine appreciates UP CM Yogi Adityanath government's work

Neela wrote:

chetak wrote:Time magazine appreciates UP CM Yogi Adityanath government's work

What is TIme magazine? How reputed is it? Not heard of it ...sorry.

Chennai tense as Thowheed Jamaath members protest after their Pakistan-owned HQ was seized under Enemy Property Act
https://www.opindia.com/2021/01/chennai ... perty-act/
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According to the reports, the officers from Custodian of Enemy Property for India, Mumbai, accompanied by revenue authorities and local police, had arrived at Chennai to seal off the Thowheed Jamath headquarters, which is registered as the property of Pakistan under the Enemy Property Act 1968.

The Thowheed Jamaat, whose building is registered as the property of Pakistan, had received several notices from the state authorities for violating the Enemy Property Act. Following no action from their end, officers from Custodian of Enemy Property for India, Mumbai, accompanied by revenue authorities and local police, sealed the office on Wednesday.

Reportedly, the building was initially been granted to Abdul Rahman, the Vice President of TNTJ, for the purpose of running a lungi firm. However, Rahman has been using the building for serving as the headquarters of the TNTJ. In fact, Rahman only holds the power of attorney, since the actual property belongs to Tuba Khaleeli, who now lives in Pakistan.

After the Indo-Pak war of 1965, the Enemy Property Act was enacted in 1968, which regulates such properties and lists the custodian’s powers. Following the claims of heirs of Raja Mohammad Amir Mohammad Khan, on his properties across Uttar Pradesh and Uttarakhand, the Act was amended.
...

Neela wrote:

chetak wrote:Time magazine appreciates UP CM Yogi Adityanath government's work

What is TIme magazine? How reputed is it? Not heard of it ...sorry.

nitesh rane @NiteshNRane
Kokan supports @narendramodiji s Farm Laws!!
Farmers came out in full strength in today’s tractor rally to show their support!!
Hope all the critics watch this before misleading the nation!!

@Dev_Fadnavis @ChDadaPatil @BJP4Maharashtra @BJP4India

vijayk wrote:https://twitter.com/indiatoday/status/1 ... 3874292736

Looks like this idiotic protest ran its course.

Check the video. Few hundreds at most 1000 ... it's all over guys! don't sweat ...

vijayk wrote:https://twitter.com/indiatoday/status/1 ... 3874292736

Looks like this idiotic protest ran its course.

Check the video. Few hundreds at most 1000 ... it's all over guys! don't sweat ...

Bart S wrote:

vijayk wrote:https://twitter.com/indiatoday/status/1 ... 3874292736

Looks like this idiotic protest ran its course.

Check the video. Few hundreds at most 1000 ... it's all over guys! don't sweat ...

That is some tractor rally, not the main protest site.

vijayk wrote:

Bart S wrote:
That is some tractor rally, not the main protest site.

According to IndiaToday

@IndiaToday
Thousands of farmers protesting against the new agricultural laws took out a tractor march from protest sites on Delhi borders. Watch the stunning drone shots from the rally.
#Farmers #farmersprotest #tractors #tractorrally #farmlaws2020

ManSingh wrote:

vijayk wrote:
According to IndiaToday

@IndiaToday
Thousands of farmers protesting against the new agricultural laws took out a tractor march from protest sites on Delhi borders. Watch the stunning drone shots from the rally.
#Farmers #farmersprotest #tractors #tractorrally #farmlaws2020

If you are really interested, the rally is Jan 26th ( hopefully won't be needed ). This was a rehearsal where three different rallies ( from three different states ) converged onto KMP. You have posted one of those three rallies( rehearsal ).

ManSingh wrote:I think this forum is on a very different tangent than what the govt thinks.

Tanaji wrote:Meanwhile, the eighth round is under way

srin wrote:The Govt has been smart, and has kept talking to them, waiting it out. I'm a bit nervous about 26th though.

madhu wrote:Some days back there was a news AIBEA supporting farmers. But no one asked what is the relation between Bank people and Farmers?

via@GrahamDavidA

"The nation is now in the surreal position of having a president whom Twitter deems too dangerous to send messages, but who still is commander in chief and controls the nuclear codes."

Sachin wrote:Centre-farmers talks remain inconclusive; govt says it cannot and will not repeal farm laws
So today's chai biskoot session is already over. To be frank, I liked the way GoI is sticking to its guns. This could be perhaps knowing the people behind the scenes (BIF, Peacefools, Anti-CAA etc.) and what their next agenda items would be. And GoI is also very much sure that these protestors will also not go for wide spread violence etc. The protestors too seems to be in two minds when it comes to violence and arson (especially considering the behaviour of peacefool organisation during the anti-CAA protest).

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Govt banks on Supreme Court as talks with farmers fail to make headway

08 Jan 2021,
Sayantan Bera

Union Agri Minister said that in a democracy, laws which are passed by a Parliament can only be reviewed by the apex court and the govt will abide by its directions

The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear the case on 11 Jan

The meeting took place in a tense and rigid environment, said Kavitha Kuruganti, member of the All India Kisan Sangharsh Coordination Committee, and part of the 41-member farmer’s delegation which is negotiating with the government. “It is a sad day for democracy that in the middle of the talks an elected government is saying the matter be resolved through the Supreme Court," Kuruganti said.

“The court has already said farmers have a right to protest... and these laws are not just about constitutional validity but also about their implications for farmers. The unions have clearly said that whatever the court might order they are not going to budge until they secure a repeal," Kuruganti added.

Earlier the government had offered to significantly dilute the bills passed by the Parliament through amendments and create a committee to review the bills. Both offers were rejected by farmers. Farmer unions have said that if their demands are not met by 26 January, Republic Day, they will march with their tractors into the national capital.

Since 27 November, thousands of farmers have been protesting on national highways bordering Delhi asking the Centre to repeal the farm bills. With the stand-off continuing for a month and a half, crowds have been swelling at Tikri, Singhu, Ghazipur and Shahjahanpur—on Delhi’s border with Haryana, Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan. Since the protests at Delhi’s doorstep began, about 70 protestors have died in road accidents, by taking to suicide and after falling ill due to a harsh winter.

Farmers fear that by weakening state regulated markets and widening the role of private corporations, the reforms acts will dilute existing state purchase of food grains at support prices.

chetak wrote:

ManSingh wrote:
If you are really interested, the rally is Jan 26th ( hopefully won't be needed ). This was a rehearsal where three different rallies ( from three different states ) converged onto KMP. You have posted one of those three rallies( rehearsal ).

This is not a govt that walks back its legitimately passed laws

consultation simply does not mean that the govt MUST talk and AGREE only to special interest groups demands.

Consultations also means that the govt listens, accept fully or partially or REJECTS in toto any and all points made during such "consultations". This is an elected govt with a massive mandate given for a very specific purpose.

just because one calls for a meeting does not mean that one has to listen and agree to some entitled jokers determined to protect and insisting on legitimizing a life long sustained income stream and ensuring that such rights get passed on to their next generation(s) in perpetuity.

The rest of India gets a say too, no

Where are they represented and by whom

RTE was passed quietly and furtively and that has had/is having/will continue to have a devastating effect on the majority community.

the BIF led malevolent NAC was working on the "communal violence bill" when the entire edifice including the shabbily built minority house of cards came crashing down.

what was being attempted by the sardar and mafia led UPA "govt" was treason, no other word for it.

now there is a direct interference from entities like soros and others like him for Modi to contend with. It was the very same NGOs that ware pushing for the "communal violence bill"

It would have been like going back to the mughal and britshit rule where the privileged few ruled over the vast multitudes of docile, law abiding, hardworking, tax paying and foolishly divided dharmic and sheep like Hindus led by some latter day termites like gandhi and neverwho.

shaheenbagh was the trailer. A refined shaheenbagh with additional bells and whistles (lessons learned) has manifested with the intention to peak during the visit of boris johnson so as to garner the attention of the international press.

dhat teri, plan chaupat ho gayi

minority rights have been weaponized in India by the BIF, even though the very word "minority", its definition and the concept of "minority" remains unspecified in the Indian constitution is also a BIF ploy.

There are frenzied BIF interests at play here, desperate to keep India mired in it's long term colonially inspired great game plan of keeping the Hindus tied down and India poor. They all need the India market without the India competetion. They need all of Modi's reforms to be shelved as well as the ability of the Modi govt's ability to pass any more such laws and reforms damaged for good.

CAA was a devastating blow to them and UCC will be the annihilating kiss of death.

Personally, I think that there is a plan to try and resettle, at some point, all the roper refugees in India, no matter from where they come from.

Food is in abundance here, reasonable infrastructure including paid healthcare is available widely, and a foolish, manipulable Hindu population which will continue to cough up taxes to help resettle all the roper malcontents being driven out of their legitimate lebensraum. This may even be the prophesied ghazwa e hind in a modified form.

the gulfies/arabs are house cleaning, even as their oil is running out and revenues start to drop. They want all their malcontents out because soon, they will not have enough money to look after their own people. There is a reason, despite very strong criticism, why all the gulf countries, especially the "kingdoms" have refused to accept any roper refugees.

everyone is aware of what happens when malcontent "minorities" start to rampage and weaponize their tribal presence as well as their exclusive socio religious demands, as is happening in India, uk, france, and many other EU countries.

europe has just about had it with the massive invasion of military age males under the guise of "refugees" and the euros are very apprehensive of allowing further "contamination", just like the govts of canada, australia, europe, and the US are seeing the advantages of keeping these scum out.

brexit was largely about regaining britshit control over outside labor/migration being allowed a free run in the UK exclusively and forcibly controlled by laws made by the EU.

chetak wrote:Govt banks on Supreme Court as talks with farmers fail to make headway

Govt banks on Supreme Court as talks with farmers fail to make headway

08 Jan 2021,
Sayantan Bera

Union Agri Minister said that in a democracy, laws which are passed by a Parliament can only be reviewed by the apex court and the govt will abide by its directions

The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear the case on 11 Jan

The meeting took place in a tense and rigid environment, said Kavitha Kuruganti, member of the All India Kisan Sangharsh Coordination Committee, and part of the 41-member farmer’s delegation which is negotiating with the government. “It is a sad day for democracy that in the middle of the talks an elected government is saying the matter be resolved through the Supreme Court," Kuruganti said.

“The court has already said farmers have a right to protest... and these laws are not just about constitutional validity but also about their implications for farmers. The unions have clearly said that whatever the court might order they are not going to budge until they secure a repeal," Kuruganti added.

Earlier the government had offered to significantly dilute the bills passed by the Parliament through amendments and create a committee to review the bills. Both offers were rejected by farmers. Farmer unions have said that if their demands are not met by 26 January, Republic Day, they will march with their tractors into the national capital.

Since 27 November, thousands of farmers have been protesting on national highways bordering Delhi asking the Centre to repeal the farm bills. With the stand-off continuing for a month and a half, crowds have been swelling at Tikri, Singhu, Ghazipur and Shahjahanpur—on Delhi’s border with Haryana, Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan. Since the protests at Delhi’s doorstep began, about 70 protestors have died in road accidents, by taking to suicide and after falling ill due to a harsh winter.

Farmers fear that by weakening state regulated markets and widening the role of private corporations, the reforms acts will dilute existing state purchase of food grains at support prices.

ManSingh wrote: I haven't seen this viewpoint in other papers. But this is another self-goal, if true. It's suggesting one branch of government ( judiciary ) superior to the other ( legislature ).