Two-G (2G) Spectrum Scam Tapes and follow-up

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OT:
A retraction.Junior Vikatan and Kumudam Reporter,the two leading tamizh tabloids,are reporting the scandal far more exhaustively than the chindu.I think there is a lesson here.And also hope.
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Finally CBI has questioned her at her Farmhouse as per report.

All it takes is just one call from PMO (as always) to CBI - to handle Radia with silk gloves.

Its (CBI raids) red herring, eye wash, hogwash. Raja should have been indicted and arrested long ago.

String is being pulled from the top, and nobody dares to question her, despite being a suspect.
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Rahul Mehta wrote:
Rahul Mehta: MMS is the biggest bribe-seeker and bribe-collecting PM India ever saw. And I doubt if any future PM can break his record.

He is a partner in crime, an acompalice, who would have been in a orange jump suite, had he been in the US. To say that he is sleeping on wheels is an understatement.

Its more like a bartender drinking on the job.
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2G scam: PM must face JPC or quit`

http://www.zeenews.com/video/showvideo9556.html
Some of the crucial documents related to CWG deals have gone missing with the probe agencies fearing that they could have been destroyed.
http://www.zeenews.com/news676094.htm
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^ Nothing surprising. The way Kalmadi acted, his actions are screaming scam from the very word go. He ordered Delhi CM to shut up and then went to say, he will quit if Sonia says so. What is Sonia has to do in CWG?

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Very well articulated by B. Raman. Once he talked about the Hindu terror in the same way the "heir apparent" talked to US ambi but immediately he corrected that as reprisal terror from mistreatment and in-actions of the Government.

http://ramanstrategicanalysis.blogspot. ... f-rss.html

B.RAMAN
The exercise initiated by Mrs.Sonia Gandhi, the President of the Congress (I), and her cohorts at the just concluded 83rd plenary of the Congress (I) to have the Rashtriya Swayam Sevak Sangh (RSS) projected and demonised as a Hindu terrorist organisation comparable to the Nazi groups of World War II vintage and the more recent Islamic terrorist organisations speaks of the mental confusion that prevails at the senior levels of her party. It also highlights the total bankruptcy of thinking and the total indifference to sensitive issues that have become the defining characteristics of the party under her leadership in recent months.

2. It is a fact that some members of the Hindu community had during the last three or four years taken to acts of reprisal terrorism against the Muslim community at Malegaon, Hyderabad and Ajmer. It also seems to be a fact that the Hindus suspected to have been involved in these acts of reprisal terrorism were ideologically close to some of the Hindutva groups, including the RSS. The suspected role of some regional office-bearers of the RSS in motivating those Hindus, who had taken to anti-Muslim terrorism, is presently under investigation.

3. But there has been no evidence so far that the RSS as an organisation had any role in encouraging acts of reprisal against the Muslims or in motivating those who had taken to terrorism. The RSS and its leaders seem to have been as much surprised and embarrassed by the activities of these Hindu elements as other sections of the Hindu society.In the past, there had been instances of some Hindus indulging in acts of sporadic violence against Muslims in moments of public anger, but there were no instances of any Hindu or group of Hindus taking to deliberately planned acts of anti-Muslim terrorism.

4.Such deliberate and pre-planned acts of terrorism by elements in the Hindu community, including one or two officers of the armed forces, have been a recent phenomenon triggered off by a growing anger in sections of the Hindu community over what they perceived as inaction or inadequate action of the Congress (I) controlled Governments in dealing with acts of terrorism by some members of the Indian Muslim community and by Pakistani jihadi organisations sponsored by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

5. These acts of reprisal terrorism by some members of the Hindu community called for two pronged action by the Government. Firstly, the arrest and prosecution of those involved. Secondly, action to address the causes of anger in the Hindu community . Instead of doing so, the Congress (I), by launching an unwise and virulent campaign against the RSS, is going to add to the anger in the Hindu community, large sections of which look upon the RSS as an organisation which has been serving the cause of Hinduism in the land of its origin through its religious, social, cultural and humanitarian work.

6. The Hindus are in an overwhelming majority in this country and they have a right to have organisations such as the RSS to preserve the heritage of their religion and to protect and nourish their religious roots. By demonising the RSS as a terrorist and Nazi-like organisation, the Congress (I) under the leadership of Mrs.Sonia Gandhi seeks to insult millions of Hindus in this country who serve the cause of the RSS and discredit their heritage in the eyes of the rest of the world.

7. The anti-RSS campaign of the Congress (I) will not only add to the already existing anger in sections of the Hindu community,but will also play into the hands of the jihadi terrorists by facilitating their objective of aggravating the divide between the Hindu and Muslim communities. Before this campaign starts further damaging the relations between the two communities, the Congress (I) should stop its demonisation of the RSS, which would prove counter-productive. ( 22-12-10)
And he asks the same question as BJP on JPC probe...

http://ramanstrategicanalysis.blogspot. ... ctics.html

B.RAMAN
Mrs.Sonia Gandhi, the President of the Congress (I), and Prime Minister Dr.Manmohan Singh have been living in a make-believe world of their own totally cut off from reality. This became apparent from their speeches at the just concluded 83rd plenary session of the Congress (I).

2. The reality is the plethora of serious corruption cases that have come to the fore one after the other for more than a year now--- in the Government of India as well as in the State of Maharashtra. These cases demanded prompt action for their investigation and prosecution of those involved in the cases----either at the political level or at the level of bureaucrats or both. Instead of initiating prompt action in a manner that would satisfy the public, attempts have been made to drag their feet in order to avoid having to take action while pretending to act. Instead of acting against the wrong-doers through the investigative agencies such as the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), these agencies were kept away from the wrong-doers in a blatant manner in an attempt to protect them from the legal consequences of their wrong-doing.

3.Whenever the CBI takes up a case of suspected corruption for preliminary enquiry or investigation, it is expected to initiate three steps immediately after taking cognizance of the complaint---firstly, seize documents that could have a bearing on the enquiry or investigation to prevent their being tampered with or destroyed; secondly, identify and freeze bank accounts that could be connected with the wrong-doing in order to prevent the money-trail from being destroyed; and thirdly, seize the passports and other travel documents of the suspects under enquiry or investigation in order to prevent them from fleeing the country. Arrests follow later for custodial interrogation before prosecution.

4.None of these steps was taken----particularly in the case relating to the so-called 2G spectrum scam in the Ministry of Telecommunications in which the principal suspect is A.Raja, who had to resign as Minister following the submission of a report by the Comptroller and Auditor-General of India drawing attention to the massive irregularities allegedly committed by him during his tenure as the Minister. He allegedly committed these irregularities not clandestinely, but blatantly in a manner that was widely known in the Ministry.

5. No attempt seems to have been made for months by senior officials of the Prime Minister’s Office and the Cabinet Secretariat to prevent Raja from misusing his office and, if they did not succeed in doing so, to draw the attention of the Prime Minister to his misdeeds and seek his intervention. If they had not done so, it was dereliction of duty of a serious nature on their part. On the contrary, if they had done so, but if the Prime Minister had not acted on their caution, it was dereliction of duty by the Prime Minister for which he cannot escape responsibility.

6. There have been derelictions of duty at various levels----political and bureaucratic--- probably going up to the Prime Minister. The question is not just whether Dr.Manmohan Singh is an honest man of tremendous integrity. The question is whether Dr.Manmohan Singh was effective as the head of the Cabinet and the Government in rooting out such instances of corruption. There was a colossal failure of leadership by the Prime Minister who showed poor reflexes in dealing with the allegations and in failing to act against Raja and others involved.

7. A CBI enquiry---even if it be under the supervision of the Supreme Court---- can only go into the criminal ramifications of the case. It cannot go into the administrative and policy ramifications. Nor can it identify leadership deficiencies at various levels, which made this scam possible. Only a comprehensive enquiry by a Joint Parliamentary Committee (JPC) into the various aspects of the scam---- political, administrative and criminal--- can throw light on what happened, how it happened, who were the dramatis personae and how it remained undetected. Only a JPC can identify and zero in on lapses at the Cabinet level.

8. By opposing such a comprehensive enquiry by a JPC, the Prime Minister and Sonia Gandhi are apparently trying to keep the enquiry confined to the criminal aspects of the case without going into the other aspects which could create embarrassment for the Government in general and the Prime Minister in particular.

9. In their speeches at the Congress plenary, Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh have used diversionary tactics by announcing a series of measures for preventing corruption in future without explaining what they intended doing to deal with the corruption that has already taken place and to punish those responsible so that there is a deterrent effect on future temptations. The Prime Minister’s offer to subject himself to questioning by the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) of the Parliament is part of this diversionary tactics. The Prime Minister is yet to explain to the people why he is so doggedly opposing a JPC. The fact that past JPCs did not produce results is no excuse for not having one to enquire into the 2G spectrum scam.

10. Sonia Gandhi and the Prime Minister seem to be calculating that if they continue to stonewall the demand for a JPC and avoid a comprehensive enquiry, there could be a backlash against the opposition and public memory will start forgetting the scams. This should not be allowed to happen. (21-12-10)
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svenkat wrote:OT:
A retraction.Junior Vikatan and Kumudam Reporter,the two leading tamizh tabloids,are reporting the scandal far more exhaustively than the chindu.I think there is a lesson here.And also hope.
What happens to Cho, the guy with bald head. He is yesteryear Subramanya swamy.
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I watched that Rajdeep Turdesai analysis video posted earlier. I couldn't understand one thing -

Why the BJP spokespersons give unnecessary certificates to MMS? Why cant they call a spade a spade? Why can't they question MMS's honesty, as corruption is not limited to money alone?

I am sure Sachin Pilot would have brought in BJP's corruption. Ask him if that means he accepts that MMS is "perceivably" corrupt but just cannot accept another "perceivably" corrupt BJP cannot call MMS names? One should remind him that Indian law doesn't work that way. Even a convicted murderer can go to courts on another suspected murderer. One should ask him how did he become a central minister without knowing the basics.

Similarly Pilot said that Indian public voted INC into power so the opposition has no right to question UPA policies. What a retard!!! Why isnt BJP spokespeople go prepared for these debates. They hardly get 10% of the total time to present their views and it demands multitude of preparation to utilize that small window. Even in this debate, the BJP spokes person got 2 mins of time where as Pilot and Sinha and others got 70+% of time.

Kudos to that BJP spokesperson. She did a wonderful job in that debate.
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Cho is his usual caustic/sarcastic self on Dr Artiste.He is a maverick at best,not 'mainstream' inspite of his popularity.

I was talking of mass tabloids with their mix of titillation,sex,politics,moralism,films,literary pursuits and/or pretensions,nationalisms,altruisms,sensationalisms of all variety-the real 'pulse' of the non-existent 'common' man.
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Cho is a satirist and a great arm-chair critic. That is about it. He has a fan following. Rumors are that Rajnikanth heeded his words and not jumped into Politics. He is brilliant, caustic and sharp. His reach beyond his fans is limited; if it was greater TN would not be in this state. Yet he does get routinely interviewed. Subramaniya Swamy is an eccentric and undependable guy. One will never be able to guess who he befriend next or go against. This joke kind of sums up Swamy. I am sorry it is in tamil, and translating the tamil brahmin dialect will spoil the joke. {check the comments section in this link: http://ferrarinferrari.blogspot.com/200 ... great.html}
Found on the internet.
Subramaniam Swamy cholli irukaaru...

"Microsoft,Intel - Ivaa yelaar kooda Jayalalithaji secret aa meet panni irukaa. yelaa Windows operating systems liyum Jayalalitha photo-va desktop background default options la sekka cholli irukaa. Avaalum athukkum othunddu irukkaa. Ithukku yelaam support aa CIA work pannindu irukkaa. Ithukaana yelaam evidence-um yen laptop la irukku. Supreme Court Judge kitta cholli irukken itha pathi. Avaa intha matter-a investugate panrennu cholli irukaa."
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sanjeevpunj wrote:Mauli, the mother board can be developed further, include Mother Sonia as the god-mother.
Please develop our own version of the mother board. All it needs is download that picture into a graphics editor and add as needed.
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RamaY wrote:I watched that Rajdeep Turdesai analysis video posted earlier. I couldn't understand one thing -

Why the BJP spokespersons give unnecessary certificates to MMS? Why cant they call a spade a spade? Why can't they question MMS's honesty, as corruption is not limited to money alone?

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Kudos to that BJP spokesperson. She did a wonderful job in that debate.

I think they know the target is INC and 2G. If they focus on MMS it gets misdorected. Mango people by and large accept his being above the fray. And he is not even elected directly to Lok Sabha. So aiming at him leaves the real perpetrators scot free.

Also please take time to read Shakespeare's version of Mark Anthony's speech to the Romans after Caeser's murder.
"Friends...." In that he takes care not to malign those who allowed him to speak for otherwise he won't get to give his message which is that Caeser was not the person made upto be by his murderers.

Same thing here.
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Raja to appear before CBI on Dec 24, says will cooperate

A Raja is in Delhi to appear before CBI on Dec 24,where he will be quizzed about the 2G spectrum scam.

DMK to go all out to defend Raja

Sibal covering up 2G scam: BJP

http://www.zeenews.com/
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UPA blinks: can discuss JPC

Hours after the Opposition NDA launched a focused attack seeking Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s resignation, the government appeared to blink on the 2G standoff, offering a special session of Parliament to discuss the need for a joint parliamentary committee (JPC) to probe the spectrum scandal.



The latest offer — coming only 24 hours after the PM had himself rejected the case for a JPC — came from Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee at an awards function organised by news channel CNN-IBN. Mukherjee, who presided over two unsuccessful meetings with Opposition leaders trying to find a way out of the Parliament stalemate, said that he was ready to take the extra step if the BJP was willing to meet the government halfway.

“If they (the Opposition) assure that there will be a debate, I am ready to call a special session of Parliament before the Budget session so that this issue (setting up of a JPC) is debated,” Mukherjee was quoted as saying.
Jaitley said the Congress has a history of “covering up” corruption, and referred to the Bofors and Volcker scandals. Every leader who spoke attacked the PM on the appointment of P J Thomas as CVC.


However, even as Jaitley and Swaraj argued that the PM has “many things to hide” (from a JPC), Advani claimed a senior minister had told him the PM had no objection to setting up a JPC, implying that he was overruled by some “powerful” quarters.


During the Parliament stalemate, the Opposition was given to understand that the JPC demand had been accepted, but it did not ultimately happen, Advani said. Only the Prime Minister has the power to give the go-ahead for a JPC probe, he added
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Wonder why B Ramanji is espousing Hindu causes? I recall him batting for INCvadis all along.
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^^^To give benefit of doubt, perhaps the INC has swung too far away from the mainstream for even for even pro-INC folk, nurtured and schooled in nehruvian environs, edu system and values foundation to have to speak up not in vague terms but in specific terms critiquing the yuv.A.raja himself......

Like sri Bob Dylan once sang...."The tTimes, they are a changin' ". Only.
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Ramana,

He swings back and forth nothing new. But when he goes against congress his points are very clear and lucidly explained.
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ashokpachori wrote: He is a partner in crime, an acompalice, who would have been in a orange jump suite, had he been in the US. To say that he is sleeping on wheels is an understatement. Its more like a bartender drinking on the job.
The way I see it, a small cabal (cabinet ministers, rich businessmen, media, foreign individuals, and foreign companies) of well-to-do comfortable living people have manged to subvert national interest and Indian democracy to cheat a population that has barely enough to eat out of $40 billion. They need to be checked otherwise the next cabal will only get bolder and will try to subvert the entire Indian democracy for good.

Luckily this time, the opposition and the judiciary are not part of this cabal, but they very well might be the next time. Some of them are probably drooling at getting a share of that $40 billion somehow. The very fact that a small cabal has been able to undermine the entire functioning of Indian democratic system at such a massive proportion is literally at attack on India.

MMS, if he has any dignity left in him, needs to resign immediately along with his entire government. Whether he is directly involved in the scam or not, he has failed at his job. Raja needs to be put in Jail for good. Radia is a foreign national and has no business wheeling-dealing with cabinet posts, she needs to be put in Jail for good, and not the least, the stupid 2G contracts need to be canceled.

By the way, any effort to track the money trail yet to find out where those $40 billion went?
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Is UPA in a self-destructive mode?

It seems that the Kangress is doing all it can in order to sabotage the government. In order to facilitate the coronation if the Yuvraj.

But they don't realise that if they continue on this way the only thing they will end up achieving would be ruin for themselves.

It would not be of any consequence if their actions were not hurting the nation and its struggal for development.
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RamaY wrote:I watched that Rajdeep Turdesai analysis video posted earlier. I couldn't understand one thing - Why the BJP spokespersons give unnecessary certificates to MMS? Why cant they call a spade a spade? Why can't they question MMS's honesty, as corruption is not limited to money alone?
First, MMS did collect bribes and stashed in his accounts, just as Raja did. So lets bring "as corruption is not limited to money alone" argument because MMS is indeed money-hungry, power-hungry as well as fame-hungry. An excellent question is why BJP leaders are not calling MMS bribe-collector. Well, answer MNC pressure on BJP leaders. MNCs/desi elitemen dont want to ruin MMS image because that would destabilize the Govt. So MNCs honchos have given strict instructions to ALL BJP leaders and press owners to mutter "MMS is honest , MMS is honest" 108 times a day like it was some pooja-mantra. BJP leaders, as we all now know, are all MNC puppets and/or puppets of desi elitemenand so they are not cursing MMS.
ramana wrote:... If they focus on MMS it gets misdorected. Mango people by and large accept his being above the fray.
Most Mango Man believe that MMS is neck deep in bribe collection in CWG, 2G, as well as oinion scam. Even a Blind Mango Man can see that all decisions have signatures of MMS on it, and even a Blind and Illiterate can read that. The media-owners are told by MNC/desi bosses not take honest surveys on Mango Man's perception. But if any honest survey is taken, over 95% Mango Man will call MMS as money corrupt, fame corrupt and power-corrupt all in one.

For that matter, media-owners also say that Rajmata is non-corrupt and media-owners also say that Mango Man sees Rajmata as non-corrupt. All this is higwash of 100% paid news and paid silence.
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http://news.in.msn.com/national/article ... id=4732910

Raja to face CBI by Friday; arrest imminent
New Delhi: The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) will question former Telecom Minister A Raja within the next two days in connection with the alleged irregularities in the allocation of 2G spectrum. CBI officials said a notice under Section 160 of the Criminal Procedure Code was issued to Raja on Monday to appear before it for questioning either on Thursday or Friday.
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An easier answer to why MMS is not being targeted by BJP is because the ensuant loss of prestige of the PM will be utilised by Mainovadis to install chota gandhi on the PMship.
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RamaY wrote:Why the BJP spokespersons give unnecessary certificates to MMS? Why cant they call a spade a spade? Why can't they question MMS's honesty, as corruption is not limited to money alone?
MMS is not going to fight another election. Plus, like it or not, MMS is the best PM INC has produced so far. There was an article some time ago about how an out of touch Rajiv Gandhi wanted to build malls and what not, but MMS stood firm. So he seems to have made the best of the hand he was dealt.
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Inder Sharma wrote:An easier answer to why MMS is not being targeted by BJP is because the ensuant loss of prestige of the PM will be utilised by Mainovadis to install chota gandhi on the PMship.
Another reason could be they have got themselves burnt badly after targeting MMS in 2009 election. They are now wary of that.

Another reason could be sab chor hain, yeh sab drama hai
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Apologise for 'destroying' Parliament: Pranab to Oppn

His party has destoyed the government and it apparatus. Sold off national resources to the lowest bidder in a fraudelent manner. The shame of the CWG. Now he has the gall to say that the opposition has destroyed the Parliament. It the the contempt for the parliament these buggers have that has destroyed the parliament.
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We have "Maoists" and now "Ma(in)oists",Ha!Ha!

I suppose that Dr. ManMohan's economist concepts,like "Thatcherism" is "Mainoism".
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vera_k wrote:MMS is not going to fight another election. Plus, like it or not, MMS is the best PM INC has produced so far.....So he seems to have made the best of the hand he was dealt.
You sure abt that bolded statement? MMS is better than LB Shastri? Than PVN Rao? Something tells me many would disagree with such a blanket statement. Only. Onlee.
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Do you guys believe that Raja will tow his previously states position that 'PM knew everything' when questioned by CBI. If this happens, which I believe it will then:

1) Will this info be leaked... considering DMK has to face elections soon?
2) Wouldn't it make opposition more determined for a JPC?
3) Will MMS quit if indeed he too has to be probed?
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Hari Seldon wrote:
vera_k wrote:MMS is not going to fight another election. Plus, like it or not, MMS is the best PM INC has produced so far.....So he seems to have made the best of the hand he was dealt.
You sure abt that bolded statement? MMS is better than LB Shastri? Than PVN Rao? Something tells me many would disagree with such a blanket statement. Only. Onlee.
MMS is disingenuous at best and out right corrupt at worst. He leads the Government and he is ultimately responsible to the parliament and to the nation... There is no eject button at PMO. Buck stops with him.
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vera_k wrote:MMS is not going to fight another election. Plus, like it or not, MMS is the best PM INC has produced so far.....So he seems to have made the best of the hand he was dealt.
Hari Seldon wrote:
You sure abt that bolded statement? MMS is better than LB Shastri? Than PVN Rao? Something tells me many would disagree with such a blanket statement. Only. Onlee.
I think Vera_K is saying that MMS is the best PM for Cong Inc.

An editorial in the DNA says that post 2G scam, there exists an opportunity for him to reclaim lost territory. Maybe, he would relent on JPC or would give an indication that he wants JPC but coalition allies or his own party prevents him from doing so. If it is the latter, then in some time we will get to read that in some news paper soon.

If PM wants to be his own man, his time is now
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Sri wrote:Do you guys believe that Raja will tow his previously states position that 'PM knew everything' when questioned by CBI. If this happens, which I believe it will then:

1) Will this info be leaked... considering DMK has to face elections soon?
2) Wouldn't it make opposition more determined for a JPC?
3) Will MMS quit if indeed he too has to be probed?

CBI is congressi tool, it will only do so much, the scope of scrutiny will be limited.

To expect CBI to investigate congress is akin to expecting a bull to conceive.

Amar Pratap Singh was appointed just last month only, with a purpose :)
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Hey a bull can't concieve but it can damm sure make the cows pregnant. Right??

So if CBI is the Bull who is the Cow :?:

Radia a kongressi fixer, DMK naah............

Who's left?
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An open letter to the PM,but will he read it and if he reads it will he read it and act or simply stay silent just as he did with Raja's letter!!!

http://news.in.msn.com/national/article ... id=4732382

By E Jayakrishnan, India Syndicate, 23/12/2010
An open letter to the Prime Minister
Subject: On the PM’s inaction on 2G; on why the NDA should concede the Opposition’s demand for a JPC; on why the NDA’s claim to act on corruption rings hollow; on why the PM should be more communicative and assertive
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vera_k wrote: MMS is not going to fight another election. Plus, like it or not, MMS is the best PM INC has produced so far.
screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech. PVNR was better than MMS. There is an old thread on PVNR. Heck, even Rajiv Gandhi was better than MMS. I remember how Rajiv brought in a much needed energy among the youth, and along with Sam Pitroda opened up the telecommunication and technology areas.
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Re: Two-G (2G) Spectrum Scam Tapes and follow-up

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People, come back on the topic of 2G. And Rahul Mehta, your continuous allegations (without backing them up) against the PM and all others whom you don't like are getting old. We have given them space here in the name of allowing some free speech so far. No more. It is old. Any more of your drivel and I will make sure you don't post on BRF ever again. Thanks.
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Re: Two-G (2G) Spectrum Scam Tapes and follow-up

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Rs 2,00,000 cr lost! The BIGGEST scams of 2010

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 101223.htm

PM keeps awaiting words from 10 Janpath: Advani

http://www.dailypioneer.com/305517/PM-k ... dvani.html

2G scam largest in history, says Jayalalithaa

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/spect ... 101223.htm

50 held for flag demonstrations against Rahul

http://www.ptinews.com/news/1214455_50- ... nst-Rahul-
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Can someone tell me how constituting JPC would help resolve this 2G scam ?
What exactly are they going to unearth when all of them are naked in this bath tub ? Another day on office shouting slogans and not letting parliament work. Wonder why MMS and his cohorts are so scared.
Constitute JPC and every one goes back home happy and satisfied.
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VikasRaina wrote:Wonder why MMS and his cohorts are so scared.
Constitute JPC and every one goes back home happy and satisfied.
If PM wants to be his own man, his time is now
R Jagannathan
If this sounds far-fetched, consider the Congress party’s mulish opposition to a joint parliamentary committee (JPC) to probe the spectrum scandal. Now why would the Congress oppose a JPC in the guise of protecting the PM when the latter has gone on record to say that he was willing to be questioned by the public accounts committee (PAC) headed by the BJP’s Murli Manohar Joshi? A JPC would have been headed by a Congressman.

Singh clearly has nothing to hide. Does Sonia? The real worry, obviously, is that if a JPC examines Singh and he tells the truth — that the cabinet had to stand by Raja’s dubious policy due to coalition dharma — he would indirectly be pointing a finger at Sonia, who is managing the coalition. As an MP herself, she can be called by the JPC to answer questions — something which the PAC cannot do. Sonia is exercising her right to self-preservation, not fighting Singh’s battles. The sharp attack on the Sangh Parivar is to protect her other flank — Rahul. The crown prince’s immature statements to the US ambassador are an embarrassment the Congress wants to avoid before the Bengal election.
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Once a JPC gets going, it would help the Opposition keep the heat on the government through consistent reporting of proceedings. Some of data can be leak and it may make Government in trouble and so current Government doesn’t want to have JPC.
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Inder Sharma wrote:An easier answer to why MMS is not being targeted by BJP is because the ensuant loss of prestige of the PM will be utilised by Mainovadis to install chota gandhi on the PMship.
If and when that happens, that can be a master stroke by BJP. Imagine yuvaraj making all stupid comments and decisions and nation seeing the true capabilities of the dynasty.

India would lose atmost 2-3 yrs with RG. With MMS and other chamchas at helm it lost 6 valuable years.

If one combines all the scams by INC in the past 6 years across the nation, we are looking at minimum 3-400,000 crore of wealth loss. With that money india could have -

* Completed River Linking project (Rs 200,000 crores)
* Completed NHDP phases 1-5 (Rs 100,000 crores)
* Implemented nationwide farm insurance program (Rs 100,000 crores) saving 100,000 farmers from suicides.
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vera_k wrote: MMS is not going to fight another election. Plus, like it or not, MMS is the best PM INC has produced so far. There was an article some time ago about how an out of touch Rajiv Gandhi wanted to build malls and what not, but MMS stood firm. So he seems to have made the best of the hand he was dealt.
Too much BS is injurious to health. MMS was not in politics when Rajiv Gandhi was around
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