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CT- Is Unkil trying to make Davis India's problem? If not why this sort of planted stories about Davis being a anti-LET hero trying to spy on them? You dont send a white guy that sticks out like a sore thumb to spy on LET, do you?!

What can India do?
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Ambar wrote:Something's brewing ..
PESHAWAR: An American (US) national Aaron Mark Dehaven was arrested from Peshawar for overstaying illegally in the country on Friday, DawnNews reported.

According to the sources the US national from West Virginia was arrested from University Town area, as his visa had expired on October 23, 2010, he had been taken to an undisclosed location.

A case against the American had been filed under the Foreigners Act. The US embassy said they were looking into the matter.
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Suppiah wrote:
What can India do?
India can talk to the most useless and least powerful people in Pakistan, the civilian "politicians" and promise them to allow India to self destruct from Hindu terrorism.
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Nuggets from an article posted earlier:

Pakistan in peril
By Rick Westhead
South Asia Bureau
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... n-in-peril
Most of all, seething anger over the economic crisis that has led to some food prices doubling in the past year and some government agencies grinding to a halt. (In Lahore, police now demand that people who file complaints provide them with gasoline before they’ll head out and investigate.)

Stephen Tankel, author of Storming the World Stage: The Story of Lashkar-e-Taiba, says another complication in ridding the country of mullahs who promote a radical brand of Islam is the allure possessed by the Pakistani army in Punjab. According to some estimates, three-quarters of its recruits are from Punjab, a province that also happens to be home to many hardline religious leaders like Ahmed.

“There’s a definite sense among the security establishment in Pakistan that moving on the jihadis in Punjab could destabilize the army itself,” Tankel says. “So it’s fair to say the army is nervous about opening a new front there.”

Spending time even in Islamabad’s well-to-do neighbourhoods nowadays is sobering.

On the magazine racks of some book stores, Jane’s Defence Weekly, Defence Technologies and Home Security Illustrated are featured as prominently as Time and Newsweek. Roads are riddled with checkpoints. Cars slalom slowly through mazes of razor wire, concrete blocks and soldiers armed to the teeth. Most western diplomats are nervously hunkered down in the capital’s heavily guarded diplomatic quarter.

“I can’t meet you for dinner,” one told the Star sheepishly. “We aren’t allowed to go anywhere.”

Even those security analysts who are allowed to leave their compounds concede that trying to predict even the next 12 months in Pakistan is a mug’s game.

The economy is a house of cards, reliant on international donors and remittances from Pakistanis living overseas.

Foreign direct investment is plunging — it was down 45 per cent last year — and the business section of Pakistan’s large daily newspapers are chock-a-block with bad news.


The average family feels the economic pain at their local market, where inflation has doubled the price of some foods.

Inflation surged 20.8 per cent in 2009 and another 11.7 last year, according to the World Bank. (The average in South Asia was 5.6 per cent.)

This year, Pakistan’s inflation is projected to be 13 per cent.

“You have two-thirds of the country making 150 rupees (about $2) a day, and now they’re having to pay that much for one kilo of rice,” says Farrukh Saleem, an economist in Islamabad. “This is the biggest problem.”

Government receipts, meantime, are tumbling. The International Monetary Fund has suggested the government could generate more revenue by scrapping a fuel subsidy program.

But since most of the country’s diesel is consumed by well-to-do and presumably politically connected families — it’s fuels the generators that chug to life every day during the typical three- to four-hour power outages — the government has balked at the IMF’s suggestion.

Pakistan has similarly waffled on enforcing its residents to pay income tax.

Just 1 per cent of Pakistanis pay the tax. In Karachi, tax collectors are so desperate to increase local revenues that they have hired transsexuals to stand outside the homes of tax dodgers, hoping to shame them into paying. Even that hasn’t worked.


“They’ve stood outside some homes only to discover that they belong to current government officials,” says a retired Pakistani ambassador, sitting in a coffee shop at the Marriott Hotel as a sharpshooter patrols the roof above.

Just kilometres from the Marriott, Muhammad Murad ponders his family’s future.

After last year’s floods destroyed his home in Shahdadkot, he and his wife Rashida Bibi brought their 10 children to this refugee camp near the Arabian Sea. Murad, a sober-faced man, says the government hasn’t provided food or medical care to any of the camp’s 7,000 residents since November.

A few days earlier, his wife’s 11th and 12th children — twins — died just hours after birth. There has been no time to grieve.

Most days, Murad leaves the camp to scrounge for scrap metal and recyclable garbage in the streets near Karachi’s busy port. He’s lucky to come back with 50 rupees.

“Of course I’m angry,” Murad says, wearing a mud-splattered shalwar kameez. “I’m angry at Pakistan and I’m angry at you in the West. You have money and you have not come to help.”

“Pakistani is in a perilous position and it’s on its own trajectory,” says Georgetown University’s Fair. “It’s dangerous — and it’s on course to get even more dangerous and inhospitable to everyone around it.”
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India is an 'extreme risk economy' due to terrorism
India and four other countries have been bracketed as "extreme risk" growth economies by global risks analysis firm Maplecroft citing security concerns.

The UK-based firm's Global Risks Atlas 2011 has rated security as a primary concern for investors in high risk growth economies of India, Indonesia, Nigeria, Philippines and Russia.

"India is rated extreme risk for security as it faces simultaneous threats of terrorist attacks from militant Islamic extremists and Naxalite Maoist insurgents," Maplecroft said.
I don't know how much investors go by this 'Maplecroft' analysis or even whether one should attach any significance to this. But, the reason I am posting this here is that a lot of credit goes to Pakistan for making India gain this tag. We cannot feign away this terrorism or shy away from tackling this.
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:D Yessss! Just keep out!
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Ambar wrote: PESHAWAR: An American (US) national Aaron Mark Dehaven was arrested from Peshawar for overstaying illegally in the country on Friday, DawnNews reported.

According to the sources the US national from West Virginia was arrested from University Town area, as his visa had expired on October 23, 2010, he had been taken to an undisclosed location.

A case against the American had been filed under the Foreigners Act. The US embassy said they were looking into the matter.

Let me congratulate Pakis for having the guts to do so. In our country illegal overstayers become vote banks and get ration cards even before official residents do.
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A rather pathetic performance by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in rescuing its citizens from the turmoil in Libya. The contempt in which the ordinary Abdul’s and Ayesha’s are held by the elites in full display in this pathetic effort:

Foreign Office not losing sleep over expatriates’ fate

Meanwhile the Indian rescue effort proceeds smoothly:

India unveils Operation Safe Homecoming, thousands on way
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jrjrao wrote: “Of course I’m angry,” Murad says, wearing a mud-splattered shalwar kameez. “I’m angry at Pakistan and I’m angry at you in the West. You have money and you have not come to help.”


Who said Pakistan is not a democracy? The begging culture comes from the grassroots. Look at the sense of entitlement this Mango Abdul Pakbaric animal has got - he thinks the west owes him a living.
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the comments by readers of the Foreign office not losing sleep article 2 posts above is quite revealing...
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Suppiah wrote:
jrjrao wrote: “Of course I’m angry,” Murad says, wearing a mud-splattered shalwar kameez. “I’m angry at Pakistan and I’m angry at you in the West. You have money and you have not come to help.”


Who said Pakistan is not a democracy? The begging culture comes from the grassroots. Look at the sense of entitlement this Mango Abdul Pakbaric animal has got - he thinks the west owes him a living.


And of course he has 10 children with his begum... :rotfl:
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Five killed in Karachi firing incidents

At least five people including 3 policemen have been killed in Karachi since last night, Aaj News reported on Sunday.
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JE Menon wrote:As for Christine Fair, she is almost certainly a graduate of the culinary institute... maybe only a diploma but something for sure
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milindc wrote:

And of course he has 10 children with his begum... :rotfl:
What about the other three begums?
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The Star (quoted by jrjrao) got it right:
“In both Pakistan and the U.S. you have all this ‘God bless’ stuff and ‘the scriptures say,’ “ says Christine Fair, assistant professor at the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C. “Both countries have been hit by 9/11, and in both religiosity has become a national identity.
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Two judges go missing in Balochistan
Session Judge Sibi Jan Muhammad Gohar and Senior Civil Judge Muhammad Ali went missing along with their driver and body guard from Usta Muhammad area of Jafarabad district, Balochistan on Sunday.
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Three lawyers were also abducted last week from Sibi area of Balochistan.
Kidnapping of judges and lawyers have sent a wave of concern among lawyers community.
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Singha wrote:the comments by readers of the Foreign office not losing sleep article 2 posts above is quite revealing...
I liked this one
there probably safer there than here…
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arun wrote:A rather pathetic performance by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in rescuing its citizens from the turmoil in Libya. The contempt in which the ordinary Abdul’s and Ayesha’s are held by the elites in full display in this pathetic effort:

Foreign Office not losing sleep over expatriates’ fate
Oh. . . after all, Libya is another ummah country. How does it matter if a few Muslim Pakistanis die for an ummah cause, whatever that might be ?
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Burnt NATO tankers ablaze again in bomb blast (AFP)

26 February 2011,
PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Four NATO tankers gutted by a series of blasts on Friday caught fire again when an unexploded timed device went off Saturday, wounding two people in northwestern Pakistan, police said.

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Gunmen torch two NATO trucks in Pakistan
27 February 2011

QUETTA, Pakistan - Gunmen in southwestern Pakistan attacked two trucks carrying supplies to NATO troops in Afghanistan and set them on fire on Sunday, officials said.
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A sane Pakistani sighted! (I mean the motorma in the audience).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVcl3JvUTAw
(Urdu/Hindi onlee).

She mentions this: women buried alive in Balochistan:
http://www.ahrchk.net/ua/mainfile.php/2008/2969/
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"F--- this, let's just call Pakistan the enemy.'
For that the next logical step should be removal of Major Non NATO Ally status for TSP. 
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Fortifying Pakistan: the role of U.S. internal security assistance
By C. Christine Fair, Peter Chalk
Published 2006
Intro pages available at books.google.com
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr= ... &q&f=false


PS: C. Christine Fair's PhD thesis appears to be the following:

The historical novels of Bhai Vir Singh: Narratives of Sikh nationhood
by Fair, C. Christine Ph.D., The University of Chicago, 2004, 312 pages;

PPS: Articles of most interest to this forum are here:
http://home.comcast.net/~christine_fair ... icles.html

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http://evilcuisines.com/
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The Islamic Republic of Pakistan repeats behaviour displayed during the Kargil crisis and declines to take back the bodies of its citizens who were shot dead while infiltrating into India:

Pakistan refuses to take back bodies of intruders
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^^^^^
Dhanyabad Gupta-ji......
...So the "Fair" lady is "the analyst" in town........
good for her......
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The Aaron Mark Dehaven fellow can speak fluent Pashto, has married a Pakistani woman and lives in Pakistan. His business is to buy a lot of houses and rent it to "visiting tourists and contractors". So it is clear that he is a chef in culinary institute. If the guy sings, he can sing about a lot of people.
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arun wrote:The Islamic Republic of Pakistan repeats behaviour displayed during the Kargil crisis and declines to take back the bodies of its citizens who were shot dead while infiltrating into India:

Pakistan refuses to take back bodies of intruders
Bury them at Zero Point and illuminate by floodlights at night so all can be
seen from other side!
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arun wrote:A rather pathetic performance by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in rescuing its citizens from the turmoil in Libya. The contempt in which the ordinary Abdul’s and Ayesha’s are held by the elites in full display in this pathetic effort:

Foreign Office not losing sleep over expatriates’ fate

Meanwhile the Indian rescue effort proceeds smoothly:

India unveils Operation Safe Homecoming, thousands on way
But Pakis are Arabs so all come pre-equipped with magic carpet so see
no need for airlift. There you have it!
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225 Locomotives needed for Pakistan Railways to meet shortage
Pakistan Railways has demanded 225 locomotives to replace the overaged locomotives and to meet the shortage of locomotives in the department.

According to a senior official of the ministry of Railways, there is acute shortage of Locomotives and passenger coaches in Pakistan Railways at present and it should be overcomed with the availability of new locomotives.
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Pakistan Railways has also demanded Rs. 5.2 billion for repair of 100 locomotives held up for want of spare parts besides rehabilitation of passenger coaches.

A Contract agreement amounting to US$ 134.45 million for procurement of 202 Passenger Coaches has been signed with M/s. China Machinery Import & Export Corporation China on 10-10-2009.
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Pakistan ignored on Chinese advice
KARACHI: Pakistan did not caution on Chinese advice to concentrate on economic growth and improve social harmony in the society.

And more to transfer the national security plans to next term but they did not pay the attention and avoided sincere advice.

It was revealed by former Pakistani ambassador in a seminar on 60-years diplomatic relation with China in connection with Pakistan-China friendship year 2011.

Further, he disclosed that Pakistan should be invested in human capital in accordance with demand such as education sector, health sector and human resource sectors. Otherwise, we would confront the situations like soviet empire, when it was crumbled though Soviet Union builds world’s largest army with modern arsenal.

However, it collapsed and scattered due to worst financial burden
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851 Americans enjoy diplomatic immunity in Pakistan
American diplomatic and non-diplomatic staff top the list of those enjoying diplomatic immunity in Pakistan - 851 in total including 31 working at its consulate in Lahore alone. The government on Friday informed the National Assembly that as many as 2,570 diplomats of 78 countries enjoyed diplomatic immunity in Pakistan.

Minister of state for foreign affairs Ms Hina Rabbani Khar placed the record before the National Assembly according to which in the embassy of the United States in Islamabad, as many as 710 US nationals enjoyed diplomatic immunity including 425 diplomats and 285 non-diplomatic staff. In the US consulate in Lahore, 31 US nationals, including 30 diplomats, enjoyed diplomatic immunity; in the Karachi consulate 52 Americans (49 diplomats and 3 others) enjoy diplomatic immunity while in the Peshawar Consulate 58 US nationals enjoyed diplomatic immunity, including 50 diplomats and eight others.

In total, 851 US nationals are working in Pakistan - 554 diplomats and 297 non-diplomats who enjoy diplomatic immunity. Next comes the British High Commission in Islamabad whose 170 staff members enjoy diplomatic immunity, including 167 diplomats and three others. In its Karachi deputy high commission, seven diplomatic staff enjoyed diplomatic immunity.

Saudi Arabia comes third, whose 168 nationals enjoy diplomatic immunity including 134 diplomats and 34 others. Of 168 Saudi nationals, 124 work in the Saudi embassy in Islamabad — 102 diplomats and 22 others — all enjoying diplomatic immunity. Its Karachi consulate has 44 members — 32 diplomats and 10 non-diplomatic staff.

India has 117 nationals, including 26 diplomats and 91 others who enjoy diplomatic immunity in Pakistan. Russia has 98 members — 45 diplomats and 53 others — who are entitled to diplomatic immunity.

The sixth in the line is China with 87 of its nationals having the status of diplomats and no non-diplomatic staff enjoying immunity. The minister further said that 56 Germans including 54 diplomats, 60 Afghans including 57 diplomats, 61 Italians including 34 diplomats, 28 Turks including 25 diplomats, 64 Iranians including 55 diplomats and 60 French nationals also enjoy complete diplomatic immunity.
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Pakistan to seek $2b from Bank share sales: Qamar
Pakistan plans to raise as much as $2 billion from holdings in the nation’s largest banks and energy companies and from Oil & Gas Development Co. exchangeable bonds, according to Privatization Minister Naveed Qamar in an interview with a foreign cable news network. “The government will offer some of its stock in National Bank of Pakistan, Habib Bank Ltd., Pakistan Petroleum Ltd. and electricity producer Kot Addu Power Co. to local investors
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^^^ Pakis can say with surety that 2,570 diplomats, 187 goats, 64 of them white 121 black, one brown and one pregnant, all enjoy diplomatic immunity.

But......

After nearly 1.5 months cannot say if Raymond Davis has immunity :rotfl:
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A-Gupta,
I got six out of seven on her axis of evil cuisine test! :)
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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 90,00.html
Davis Spy Crisis: Top U.S., Pakistan Spooks in Talks
The CIA has opened direct negotiations with its Pakistani counterpart, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), in an effort to secure the release of one its contractors who is standing trial in Pakistan for double murder. Officials familiar with the discussions told TIME that the negotiations began on Wednesday when Lieut. General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the director-general of the ISI, received a call from CIA Director Leon Panetta. Panetta's call came just a day after the U.S. and Pakistani military leaderships met for a prescheduled meeting in the Gulf emirate of Oman, where the case of the CIA contractor was also discussed. Leading up to the meeting, Admiral Mike Mullen, head of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, had spoken with Pakistan Army chief Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani at least three times about the contractor.
The case of Raymond Davis, a former special operations soldier who had been working with the CIA as a contractor in Pakistan, has sent relations between the two countries to a dangerous low. Davis is standing trial in the eastern city of Lahore, accused of killing two Pakistanis who had been pursuing him last month. The controversy has caused an uproar in Pakistan, particularly after Washington insisted that Davis should be released under diplomatic immunity because he was acting in self-defense, holds a diplomatic passport and a valid visa. In Pakistan, few are persuaded. A fierce wave of anti-Americanism has arisen, with many Pakistanis disputing whether diplomatic immunity applies. For the powerful Pakistani military and its spies, there are also concerns about the activities of Davis and other contractors operating in the country.
(See why Pakistan is in no mood to back down in the showdown
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The bodies, kept in a hospital here, will be handed over to the civil body for cremation.
This should be extended to J&K in cases of infiltration from TSP.
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A_Gupta wrote: http://christinefair.net
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I recently received information that Muamar Gaddafi's son Muttassen Gadaffi has several hundred Pakistanis serving in a private militia that he runs. Muttassen is General and he was trained in Russia. In Libya he is in charge of a large special forces unit that does have Pakistani instructors among others. He also has a militia force that is his own which has Pakistanis, Chechens, Kurds etc as members. This is the unit that massacred almost 200 Libyans in Benghazi early in the revolt. This is also the same unit that massacred a squad of Libyan soldiers who refused to follow orders. I am thus not surprised by the attitude of their foreign office.
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asprinzl wrote:I recently received information that Muamar Gaddafi's son Muttassen Gadaffi has several hundred Pakistanis serving in a private militia that he runs. Muttassen is General and he was trained in Russia. In Libya he is in charge of a large special forces unit that does have Pakistani instructors among others. He also has a militia force that is his own which has Pakistanis, Chechens, Kurds etc as members. This is the unit that massacred almost 200 Libyans in Benghazi early in the revolt. This is also the same unit that massacred a squad of Libyan soldiers who refused to follow orders. I am thus not surprised by the attitude of their foreign office.
Ah, so that explains the denial at the bottom of this page here:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/124591/fore ... ates-fate/
In response to a question about reports circulated in the Arab media alleging involvement of Pakistan’s military in the current developments in Libya, Janjua said the claims were baseless. There are no military personnel stationed in Libya, she said.
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X Posted from the Indus Water thread.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan gets its shalwar in a twist over India getting carbon credits from the UNFCCC for the Chutak and Nimoo-Bazgo hydel projects:

Govt wakes up to India’s hydel projects
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asprinzel ji:

It seems even in Bahrien the firing was done by TSP citizens.

Almost two generations and four decades have passed, but killing unarmed civilians seems to be forte of TSP.

Jo Dhaka main war-criminal, woh Libya main bhee
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