AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 02 Oct 2013 05:11

Sushma Swaraj has undone everything what Modi achieved in his visit

BJP Seemandhra Leaders Fire On Sushma Swaraj

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufieAF16ci8

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 02 Oct 2013 05:19

What do you expect from D4? She will try to sabotage as much as she can. She will be fleeing with Sonia when the time comes.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 02 Oct 2013 05:59

the worst hit that D4 has done is opposing Modi for 2 posts, they have him removed as party campaign chief with Rajnath Singh. If BJP loses 2014, this move maybe the single biggest reason. Now someone else controls ticket distribution and we know how 2009 went (with allegations of tickets being sold). Worst, a whiff of casteism, and Hindu coalition disappears in UP. With this move, that is the risk!!

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 02 Oct 2013 09:59

so it is as I expected. the T-announcement is Dec 2009 Part-II. few more years of mud-slinging.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 02 Oct 2013 11:10

It may or may not be. Mafia does what it thinks beneficial to it. Somehow I have a feeling they lost plot here and trying to contain here. They have not expected AP CM, non Telangana area agitation, etc. Shinde, diggi raja continue to mess up the situation with no one knowing what to do. Jagan comes handy, but CBN is already going to town with deal between mafia and ejection criminals that may not measure shot any more. If bjp and cbn join then they may be formidable.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 02 Oct 2013 19:46

मनोज ‏@manojsirsa 19m
RT @buzzindelhi: For those who asked. @ncbn and @narendramodi stayed the whole duration of the #Manthan event

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 02 Oct 2013 20:04

People like Chandr baabu Naidu ji does seem to have good focus like NaMo Jethmalaanhee and others.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 03 Oct 2013 04:21

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 Oct 2013 12:09

Cabinet note may be placed to meeting. Just like CWC decided. Mafia mother and son are both involved.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 03 Oct 2013 12:53

http://vickynanjapa.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/telangana-note-on-cm-gone/

Even the UPA cabinet gets ready to circulate the draft of the Cabinet note on Telangana, there is also talk that the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, Kiran Kumar Reddy will be replaced ahead of the special session of the assembly.

The Home Ministry has prepared a 20 page draft of the Cabinet Note on Telangana and there are absolutely no changes in it and the ministry has decided to stick to exactly what was decided during the CWC meet. The state will be bifurcated and Hyderabad will remain the common capital of Andhra Pradesh for the next ten years.

As per sources, the draft will be circulated at the Cabinet meet today by Home Minister, Sushil Kumar Shinde. The opinion of the ministry for water resources, health, law and health will be crucial before the draft attains a finality. While the law department will go into the legalities, the rest of the departments will need to take a closer look at crucial issues such as health and water sharing when the state is bifurcated. The UPA wants to ensure that there is no confusion on these departments when the bifurcation finally takes place. Only once the opinions comes through will the cabinet pass the note and then place it before the Andhra Pradesh state assembly for opinion.

Change of guard- The high command is very upset with Kiran Reddy for his public outbursts on the Telangana issue. The Congress has already zeroed in on the names of Anand Ramnarayan Reddy, K Laxminarayana and Raghuveera Reddy to replace Kiran Kumar Reddy as the Chief Minister. Kiran Reddy despite being told several times to cow down on the issue has not done so and the high command feels that he will cause an embarrassment when the note on Telangana reaches the assembly. Although the decision of the assembly is not mandatory to consider before bifurcating the state, the Congress still would like to display a united front on this matter.

Meanwhile the chants to replace Kiran Reddy are getting louder. His possible successor, Anand Reddy says that it is not right on the part of Kiran to speak against the High Command in public. We need to respect our high command and if there are grievances it should be taken to Delhi and not voiced in public. The others in the Congress are saying that if Kiran has such a problem he ought to step down and fight his battle from outside.

The Congress High Command will first focus on clearing the cabinet note before acting on changing the guard at Andhra Pradesh, sources also point out.

(Story first appeared on rediff.com)

It means either there will be a vertical split in Congress in region of Seemandhra, possible leading dissolving assembly or President rule.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 Oct 2013 15:27

If the name is Anam Ramayana Ready then this report may be rubbish. His brother is big united APRIL fellow. Their family is not so stupid. They are political life for generations. They know that this is few months post and political burial. Further their district is pro Jagan on whom they have very bad relationship.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 03 Oct 2013 19:23

So AP becomes a challenge for NM. INC may sweep T with or w/o TRS while hope that Jagan sweeps in SA. NM can't be PM w/o UP, BH and AP.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 Oct 2013 19:31

So Hyderabad will be a Joint capital for ten years and perhaps not a UT.

Telangana will be a reality in Winter Session. GoM formed to oversee bifurcation process anf financial dispensation that may be needed from Central Govt.

Cabinet approves the decision. Now only pappu can avert this.

Vamsi.R · Post by **Vamsi.R** » 03 Oct 2013 19:42

what is the process that will follow now ?

note presented in state assembly --->if cleared--> presented in parliament---> if cleared----> president signs it--->formation is official

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 Oct 2013 20:05

Cabinet approved note. Unless BJP take steps to stop the game plan of mafia we may be looking at UPA3. black karma of Telugu people who twice helped mafia into power now came to extract the punishment. We have to see how NM will face this new challenge.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 03 Oct 2013 20:06

So now how does MIM gain from this in Telanganh, Seemaandhr?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 Oct 2013 20:52

Vamsi.R wrote:what is the process that will follow now ?

note presented in state assembly --->if cleared--> presented in parliament---> if cleared----> president signs it--->formation is official

AP Assembly will pass a resolution to this effect and Send it to MHA.Then MHA will prepare the Bill for creation or new states with boundaries districts defined and basis for certain division of properties and finances. Bill will have to be passed by Parliament and then sent to President for approval. Once approved, it will become Law on the date of its effect mentioned in the Act notified in Official Gazette.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 Oct 2013 21:34

Chiranjeevi Resigns over formation of Telangana

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 03 Oct 2013 21:41

The only thing standing between Jagan and a sweep in SA is CBN.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Oct 2013 21:54

So what are the choices?

1/ Vote for Rahul Gandhi and Save AP OR
2/ Sacrifice AP and elect NM?

I am highly impressed with INC's manipulations. It is splitting AP and yet might be able to get victory to its A/B teams.

A practical lesson learned in Artha-Sastra

If only Congis did this with Bharatiya internal/external enemies.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 03 Oct 2013 21:59

INC gave up SA to sweep T as under present circumstances they can't win both. As they can't win SA they gave bail to Jagan so that he sweeps and CBN can't help NDA. Chankian.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 03 Oct 2013 22:05

Andhra assembly vote is only formality. even if bill looses there, Center has no obligation to accept it. for that matter, even referring the bill to State Assembly is not mandatory. President can give nod without referring it to State.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 03 Oct 2013 22:07

Supratik wrote:INC gave up SA to sweep T as under present circumstances they can't win both. As they can't win SA they gave bail to Jagan so that he sweeps and CBN can't help NDA. Chankian.

INC is not dead in SA. you will be surprised by the results next year.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 Oct 2013 22:19

devesh wrote:Andhra assembly vote is only formality. even if bill looses there, Center has no obligation to accept it. for that matter, even referring the bill to State Assembly is not mandatory. President can give nod without referring it to State.

In Assembly , it is only Resolution about the formation of State. It is not necessary to recommend and yes, GOI is not bound by it. Bill is not referred to State Assembly.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 03 Oct 2013 22:19

chaanakya wrote:Chiranjeevi Resigns over formation of Telangana

Also most of Central ministers are resigning and some of them also from Congress party. We'll have to see more MPs resignations from Congress party.

Samaikyandhra MLAs are planning to defeat assembly resolution. It'll be first time if Center wants to take action against State assembly and people.

It will be Center vs State fight now.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Oct 2013 22:33

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 03 Oct 2013 22:33

ShyamSP wrote:
chaanakya wrote:Chiranjeevi Resigns over formation of Telangana
Also most of Central ministers are resigning and some of them also from Congress party. We'll have to see more MPs resignations from Congress party.

Samaikyandhra MLAs are planning to defeat assembly resolution. It'll be first time if Center wants to take action against State assembly and people.

It will be Center vs State fight now.

What should be BJP's strategy now? They are committed to a Telangana state, so they will not go back on it, I think. Can the BJP make a deal so that CBN contests in all of SeemaAndhra, while they contest in all of Telangana?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Oct 2013 22:35

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 03 Oct 2013 22:36

What if all AP MPs resign? Will the UPA collapse?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 03 Oct 2013 22:38

vivek.rao wrote:What if all AP MPs resign? Will the UPA collapse?

I don't think that Telangana MPs will resign ......

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 03 Oct 2013 22:44

nageshks wrote:
ShyamSP wrote:
Also most of Central ministers are resigning and some of them also from Congress party. We'll have to see more MPs resignations from Congress party.

Samaikyandhra MLAs are planning to defeat assembly resolution. It'll be first time if Center wants to take action against State assembly and people.

It will be Center vs State fight now.
What should be BJP's strategy now? They are committed to a Telangana state, so they will not go back on it, I think. Can the BJP make a deal so that CBN contests in all of SeemaAndhra, while they contest in all of Telangana?

Who cares BJP. Next thing to watch is how the Congress splinters - how much goes to YSRC and how much to TDP. There will be some Jaichands left of course.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 03 Oct 2013 22:45

We do not have Dasari here, he had a different take on this, what is he saying.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Oct 2013 22:47

Javadekar says BJP to support Telangana Bill BJP spokesperson Prakash Javadekar said that the BJP will support the bill for formation of Telangana though the action on this issue by the UPA government has been delayed. “BJP is already committed, but the bill has to be brought to the Parliament. Our committment to the bill is full and final,” Javadekar said.

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/live- ... ef_article

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 03 Oct 2013 22:53

If congress sweeps telangana and Ysrc(a congi b-team) gobbles up SA what's politically the use of telangana movement if at all - to the nationalists at the end of the day ?

If state is getting divided .. OK I was sad but at least I thought congi will be wiped off in one area or other .
Now congi may have its cake and eat it too - if YSRC gets to prevail in SA.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Oct 2013 22:53

Even Congressis haven't congratulated yet. Pahle hum party baad mein.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 Oct 2013 22:55

BJP need to do some fast thinking and make a mess of things in AP plan of mafia. Immediately starting talks with CBN and going to town with Jagan mafia deal to sweep non Telangana areas. CBN is alreadydoing it and many congee leaders are also saying it openly. People who are with congressfcongress two generations are openly saying that party cheated them. Many now resigned from the party. If Sonia is playing a high risk game and CBN and NM should beat her now.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 03 Oct 2013 22:56

^^ That is the people of AP not realizing it. Or will they?

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 03 Oct 2013 22:57

Boss SS needs to go. I will rather vote congress if she is my LS candidate.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 03 Oct 2013 23:04

Fanne ji,
Recently SC directed that there will be a "none of the above" option in polling list.
If one doesnt want to vote for Bhajapa one must tick that none of the above option - and especially not vote for congi.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Oct 2013 23:09

fanne wrote:Boss SS needs to go. I will rather vote congress if she is my LS candidate.

This means BJP wants to go after the T vote by claiming they should get the credit.
So far they wont get any in rest of the state.
It will be YSRCP or TDP in rest of the state.