Russian-Ukranian War: Geopolitical Fallout

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 11 Oct 2022 19:20

NRao wrote:Well.

British Prime Minister to call urgent meeting of NATO leaders after Russia's latest attacks

Let us see if anyone has the guts to call for peace talks.

They will double down and take further steps, no way anyone is going for peace talks when Ukrainian counter offensive have done pretty well

bala · Post by **bala** » 11 Oct 2022 21:40

Tulsi Gabbard quits ‘warmongering’ Democrats
https://www.rt.com/news/564475-tulsi-ga ... democrats/
11 Oct, 2022

Former US Congresswoman and 2020 presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard has announced her departure from the Democratic Party, arguing that it has fallen under the control of “an elitist cabal of warmongers.” Establishment Democrats have long called on Gabbard to leave the party and declare herself a Republican.

“I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers,” Gabbard declared in a video message on Tuesday.

President Joe Biden’s party colleagues, she continued, are “driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue and stoking anti-white racism…who are hostile to people of faith and spirituality…who believe in open borders, who weaponize the national security state to go after their political opponents, and above all, who are dragging us ever closer to nuclear war.”

Gabbard has long opposed US involvement in and funding of foreign conflicts. During her four terms in office from 2013 to 2021, she advocated dialogue with America’s rival superpowers, coupled with a hardline policy on Islamic terrorism.

// people rooted in dharma are seeing the writing on the wall!

kit · Post by **kit** » 11 Oct 2022 21:46

bala · Post by **bala** » 11 Oct 2022 21:48

Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant is receiving Russian electricity after being taken off Ukraine’s electrical grid
https://www.rt.com/russia/564476-zaporo ... ssia-grid/
11 Oct, 2022

“The city has been connected to the grid, and the plant has a new power supply as well,” Renat Karchaa from Rosenergoatom told Russia 24 TV on Tuesday. The last of the plant’s six reactors was shut down a month ago after power lines were damaged by the shelling. The facility was then forced to rely on diesel generators. However, it is [too] early to talk about restarting the plant’s reactors at the moment.

Ukraine is under power blackouts in Kiev. They stopped exporting electricity to the EU.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 11 Oct 2022 21:52

What Dr SJ thinks of Zelinsky, and the war in Ukraine etc. : jump to 17:20
What he didn't say - none of the fawning adoration by western countries - is very telling.
The whole interview as usual is superbly educative.

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 11 Oct 2022 22:16

Related,

Biden’s Options To Counter OPEC+ Are Limited

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/B ... mited.html

"Besides suspending deliveries of weapons to Saudi Arabia, there is the political pressure campaign approach, with some on social networks already joking that it’s only a matter of time before Washington begins noticing human rights abuse and the absence of democracy in the desert Kingdom."

Sounds familiar?

vinod · Post by **vinod** » 12 Oct 2022 03:34

Saudi and UAE are clearly keeping the Russian option alive.

Russia is now clearly the counter weight for the rest of the world to keep US and Europe in check for next few decades.

World simply cannot let Russia become a lesser power.

ks_sachin · Post by **ks_sachin** » 12 Oct 2022 07:01

One day, the trinity-willing India will be the counter weight to the world!!

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 12 Oct 2022 11:23

Politico magazine. Putin is losing, rhetoric, civilian death, nuclear strike etc. etc.
Putin’s losing. Now what?

A losing Vladimir Putin is lashing out, reaching for ever-more-venomous schemes and forcing western capitals to war-game his murderous scenarios.

The Russian president is terrorizing Ukrainians in cities far removed from the war’s front lines. He’s suspected of ordering the sabotage of gas pipelines to Europe. And, most terrifyingly, he’s threatening nuclear war.

That’s all just in the span of a few weeks.

Western leaders are now scrambling to plan for whatever the increasingly unpredictable leader may do next. They’re fearing even more exaggerated versions of what has already unfolded: more terror campaigns to destroy Ukraine’s energy facilities ahead of winter; more disruption of the infrastructure powering Europe’s society; more nuclear saber-rattling.

The goal, analysts and officials say, is to bleed out western patience and resources — essentially playing the long game in the hope of fomenting western fissures before a battlefield loss.

“Russian forces are going to be defeated on the battlefield,” said Ben Hodges, former commander of U.S. Army Europe, adding: “Ukrainians have achieved irreversible momentum.”

While officials can’t fully defend against all of Putin’s latest tactics, they’re discussing what new weapons Ukraine might need for combat, how to better monitor Europe’s critical infrastructure and how to dissuade Putin from launching a nuclear strike.

“As Allies,” Dutch Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren said in an email last week, “we have to keep our calm and not let his unacceptable rhetoric dictate our response.”

“NATO,” she said, “is prepared for any scenario.”

Possible responses have ranged from more calls for fresh sanctions — Polish Ambassador to the EU Andrzej Sadoś called for penalties “as soon as possible” — to giving Ukraine new types of air defense systems.

Germany on Monday announced it will speed up the delivery of advanced IRIS-T air defense systems to Kyiv, and Ukraine is set to receive two U.S.-made National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems, or NASAMS, by November. U.S. President Joe Biden renewed his own pledge to offer the country “advanced air defense systems” without providing specifics.

But while Kyiv is slated to receive more American systems down the line, it remains unclear what further air defenses it can access in the near term — and who would provide them.

“The whole of Europe is lacking that capability,” said Brauss, the former German and NATO official, citing the Continent’s relatively little post-Cold War air defense investments.

Russia is unlikely to directly challenge a NATO ally, but the Kremlin appears increasingly willing to clandestinely take out the systems undergirding NATO countries’ societies.

First, there were explosions on the Nord Stream undersea gas pipelines linking Russia and Europe — a sabotage plot with suspected Kremlin fingerprints.

Then, over the weekend, someone cut the cables keeping Germany’s trains running, raising the specter of another possible Kremlin plot.

Other possible sabotage scenarios are, disturbingly, myriad.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 12 Oct 2022 11:32

I think that the most important lesson of geopolitics is as follows.

He who has the ability to destroy a thing. Has the ability to control the thing.

The western leaders are thinking that Russia can be controlled by the actions they have taken.

Conveniently ignoring the fact that Russians have nuclear weapons and that they had not fully mobilised for a war with Ukraine.

The Russians are in actual control of the escalation ladder.

But the west thinks that it has complete control over it.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 12 Oct 2022 13:09

Pratyush wrote:But the west thinks that it has complete control over it.

The west is not "thinking" at all. They don't seem to be weighing any options based on criteria like what's good for our people etc.

All western leaders are blindly following the US lead, which itself is reacting with its reptilian brain. They are hoping that the US which has got them until here will "somehow" get them to a victorious end state whatever that may be.

The flagrant violation of every democratic principle and process is hedious. For instance, French govt needs a parliamentary debate and approval for policy, action and budgets when armed forces are deployed out of the country for more than 4 months. With the confusion created by overlapping and nebulous mandates of sovereign France, EU and NATO, Macron is doing whatever he wants, and no one, not even the opposition parties who have majority in the Assembly Nationale are questioning any of this.

I think all EU leaders are operating similarly. Any leader who dares to question any aspect is viciously attacked and smeared by the free press and social media, as Ségolène Royal - socialist ex-presidential candidate and ex wife of François Hollande who was the French President before Macron and was a co-signatory guarantor of Minsk accords - just discovered. She has shut up since then.

The total disregard for democratic conduct and accountability of these governing elites is unbelievable.

And when these elites lecture African countries or Hindu Nationalist Modi and call him an elected autocrat, no wonder they are being laughed at.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 12 Oct 2022 14:59

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/stat ... _QzEWTNHRA France riots for oil

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 12 Oct 2022 17:02

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... man-leader

Decoupling from China ‘the wrong answer’, says German leader
Olaf Scholz says Germany ‘must continue to do business with China’ while also trading with Africa, South America and the rest of Asia
German chancellor is reportedly planning a trip to Beijing next month – the first visit by a G7 leader since the Covid-19 pandemic began

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 12 Oct 2022 17:24

IndraD wrote:https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/stat ... _QzEWTNHRA France riots for oil

how is Germany and other EU nations surviving? is this due to hording or real shortage of fuel?

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 12 Oct 2022 18:22

madhu wrote:
IndraD wrote:https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/stat ... _QzEWTNHRA France riots for oil
how is Germany and other EU nations surviving? is this due to hording or real shortage of fuel?

they are not far away heard their govt is releasing big stimulus (200 B euros) to keep things moving and homes warm https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ify%20wall

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 12 Oct 2022 18:24

https://twitter.com/HSajwanization/stat ... inNwt000Jw
Russia’s President Vladimir Putin due to cold weather, gives his personal jacket to Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed and sees him off all the way to his car … This is how well respected Sheikh Mohammed is … Thank you President Putin for honoring my President

UAE president was well recd and respected in Russia much to discomfort of US, no wonder news of Latifa & distraught princess from Dubai is all over BBC

kit · Post by **kit** » 12 Oct 2022 22:13

IndraD wrote:
madhu wrote: how is Germany and other EU nations surviving? is this due to hording or real shortage of fuel?
they are not far away heard their govt is releasing big stimulus (200 B euros) to keep things moving and homes warm https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ify%20wall

persistent Inflation and recession for Germany is now guaranteed !

also that India would overtake Germany earlier as the 4th largest economy ., and in striking distance of japan

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 13 Oct 2022 03:25

https://twitter.com/JosepBorrellF/statu ... GASgV2z37A
UN voting on annexation of Ukraine's parts. 35 absentions include India, China.
UAE & Saudi voted in favour of US.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 13 Oct 2022 03:37

IndraD wrote:https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/stat ... _QzEWTNHRA France riots for oil

Indra, ji. France and Europe for that matter are no doubt have an energy crisis, but the Twitter video is incorrect. Some of these clips in the video montage are not even from France and not from 2022.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 13 Oct 2022 04:07

IndraD wrote:https://twitter.com/JosepBorrellF/statu ... GASgV2z37A
UN voting on annexation of Ukraine's parts. 35 absentions include India, China.
UAE & Saudi voted in favour of US.

A surprising amount of African countries have abstained. I wonder why the Bhikaris next door abstained? Probably no payoff this time…

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 13 Oct 2022 04:33

https://twitter.com/RadioGenova/status/ ... -cFEmI30mA

Zelensky with top notch LA VFX team

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 13 Oct 2022 15:39

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... s-00061201 NATO's 10 year plan to bolster Ukraine defense (100s Bs will flow to Ukr & back to WH)

Is this for real?! Portals like Politico platform CIA director himself espousing US propaganda, notice same content language as we read on CNN, NYT etc. His assumptions are based (while trying to convince audience) that no nuke will ever land on US(!) how are Amercians buying these propaganda?

Germany will not move out of China orbit (for now)
Decoupling from China ‘the wrong answer’, says German leader https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... man-leader

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 13 Oct 2022 17:22

Tanaji wrote:
IndraD wrote:https://twitter.com/JosepBorrellF/statu ... GASgV2z37A
UN voting on annexation of Ukraine's parts. 35 absentions include India, China.
UAE & Saudi voted in favour of US.

I wonder why the Bhikaris next door abstained? Probably no payoff this time…

Orders from the boss in Beijing.

Interestingly, Bhutan voted against Russia.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 13 Oct 2022 19:11

Very interesting.

Next "No-Atmanirbhar". It is coming.

NOPEC: Bill would allow US to sue over oil production cuts

WASHINGTON (NEXSTAR) — Congress and the White House are eyeing what they can do about the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries’ decision to slash production.

One bipartisan group of senators is pushing a bill that would allow the U.S. to sue OPEC for abusive business tactics, saying it’s time to get tough.

“We call it NOPEC,” Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said. “We want (OPEC) to abide by the same free-market rules that we have in our country.”

OPEC’s announcement last week that it would cut production about 2 million barrels daily starting in November could increase already high gas prices globally. The White House said it may also help fuel Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine.

“And that is a problem,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said.

U.S. Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said “NOPEC” is among several options under consideration.

“The president believes there should be consequences and we want to makes sure that those consequences don’t have negative impacts on our citizens at home,” she said.

Grassley said his bill would help stop OPEC’s abuse of its power but admitted it is unlikely to immediately lower gas prices. The American Petroleum Institute, which represents the oil industry, said the only way to do that is produce more oil domestically.

“We have a supply and demand imbalance,” API’s Frank Macchiarola said.

He argued suing OPEC wouldn’t work and said it could “really put at risk … the global supply chain.”

Grassley hoped NOPEC would be passed right after the midterms. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who decides what bills get votes and when, said he is considering several options to deal with OPEC’s “appalling and deeply cynical action.”

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 13 Oct 2022 20:05

Biden, Putin, and Zelensky are to attend the G-20 meeting (Nov 15-16) in Indonesia.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 13 Oct 2022 20:29

One of the stated goals of Russia was to destroy Ukrainian military capabilities.

NATO sets sights on rebuilding Ukraine’s defense industry

bala · Post by **bala** » 13 Oct 2022 20:52

Europeans generally regard Americans as "stupid" and rub it during normal conversation. Joke: The French decided to sell water in bottles to them stupid Mericans as Perrier. Over time this attitude by the Euros rankled the Mericans and now the vengeful/mean recrimination is total decimation of Eurotards by NATO.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 13 Oct 2022 23:14

Rumor:

Liz Truss is out and Keir Starmer is the next PM of the UK!!!

IF true, expect the UK to become even more adamant on Ukraine and move to a far more globalist position. The man - I am told - is "ruthless" in executing his plans and will demonstrate that on the world stage.

Someone mentioned, with Macron in France we can expect Europe to move to a far more authoritarian policy regime globally.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 13 Oct 2022 23:35

how is this possible when tories have the majority starmer is labour candidate

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 14 Oct 2022 03:08

Europe preparing upla/goytha/cowdung cakes for winter heat

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 14 Oct 2022 03:31

IndraD wrote:how is this possible when tories have the majority starmer is labour candidate

The proposed pipeline: current finmin resigns, followed by Truss, elections, Labor wins, Starmer the PM.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 14 Oct 2022 22:16

Exclusive: Musk's SpaceX says it can no longer pay for critical satellite services in Ukraine, asks Pentagon to pick up the tab

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 14 Oct 2022 23:11

Apparently true to form the Pakranian ambassador told Musk to f*ck off on Twitter… which he did.

The entitlement is off the charts…. out Pakiing the Pure ones now..

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 14 Oct 2022 23:37

NRao wrote:Exclusive: Musk's SpaceX says it can no longer pay for critical satellite services in Ukraine, asks Pentagon to pick up the tab

musk explained he was putting 20M from his pocket every month and was not getting financial help from govt like Boeing et al do, also biden has unleashed FBI kutta after him. there are stories of Ukr army falling apart in offensive action in Kherson when starlink got disconnected

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 14 Oct 2022 23:51

IndraD wrote:
NRao wrote:Exclusive: Musk's SpaceX says it can no longer pay for critical satellite services in Ukraine, asks Pentagon to pick up the tab
musk explained he was putting 20M from his pocket every month and was not getting financial help from govt like Boeing et al do, also biden has unleashed FBI kutta after him. there are stories of Ukr army falling apart in offensive action in Kherson when starlink got disconnected

Elon Musk is under federal investigations, Twitter says in court filing

Neocons are after him.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 15 Oct 2022 00:50

NRao wrote:
IndraD wrote:how is this possible when tories have the majority starmer is labour candidate
The proposed pipeline: current finmin resigns, followed by Truss, elections, Labor wins, Starmer the PM.

A slight change in plans. The following video is in support of my previous post (above):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKsfyNGJTrg

This video provides more details. Seems Rishi is back riding the horse!!!! As early as next week, that too.

Boy, Shakespeare must be ashamed that he did not publish better theatrics.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 15 Oct 2022 01:51

yes in fact insiders in Tories are poiting towards Sunak now as next PM ^

https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status ... q1X-84oEjA Elon Musk put on kill list of Nazi Myrotvorets backed by Ukraine military

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 15 Oct 2022 04:05

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... poll-finds

take it with pinch of salt, polls done in several countries done by yougov UK (no elaboration of how many people asked and how) concludes formidable support for war in the West (long read)

Arima · Post by **Arima** » 15 Oct 2022 07:08

IndraD wrote:yes in fact insiders in Tories are poiting towards Sunak now as next PM ^

https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status ... q1X-84oEjA Elon Musk put on kill list of Nazi Myrotvorets backed by Ukraine military

Talk on the other side, Elon Mars is on hit list of Russ for his star links alleged role in Ukraine Nato successfull hits on Russ

kit · Post by **kit** » 15 Oct 2022 18:00

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/elon ... -ss0tfckv2

Elon Musk cuts Ukraine’s Starlink satellites

Starlink satellite terminals donated by the American entrepreneur have proved vital to Ukrainian military communications. Heavy fighting has severed mobile phone networks in the country and the military uses Starlink receivers to co-ordinate artillery barrages, ground attacks and drone strikes..

Starlink satellite terminals donated by the American entrepreneur have proved vital to Ukrainian military communications. Heavy fighting has severed mobile phone networks in the country and the military uses Starlink receivers to co-ordinate artillery barrages, ground attacks and drone strikes.

However, documents obtained by CNN showed that SpaceX told the Pentagon it could no longer afford the programme unless the US government committed tens of millions of dollars of funding a month.

The decision emerged after Musk’s argument with officials in Kyiv after he proposed a peace plan that involved Ukraine surrendering territory. In response Andrij Melnyk, the Ukrainian ambassador to Germany, advised Musk to “f*** off”.

the sense of entitlement of the Ukes is mind boggling