Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 10 Aug 2013 20:33

BJP is not covering anti congress space in AP. Unfortunately he proved to be untrustworthy in the past, Just like Nitish Kumar. Because of the weakness of TDP in Telangana areas he may want to have BJP firndship (this talk was there for sometime) but he is not ready to join NDA and send his people join the NDA cabinet ( he was not last time also) and was very critical of NaMo last time and ABV had to call his bluff. Even now he is not ready for alliance in entire AP. Only in Telangana areas. But BJP needs frindship from a party which is not ready to be with it when there is difficulties and need. Further the chanikyan principle - One powerful enemy is better than many weak friends.

The whole reason for BJP to support Telangana is to gain foot hold there alone. Not to benefit TDP at its own cost.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 10 Aug 2013 20:38

Muppalla wrote:Murali, Rudradev and others,

even though you all utilized to news item "Delay of NaMo's PM candidacy declaration" to discuss Chattisgargh there are two things that happened in the BJP regarding the actual news. The actual news via PTI is planted by those who are still hoping to stop NaMo. In the meeting between RSS-BJP, Sushma pleaded to not insult her by declaring NaMo as PM candidate while she is still the leader of the opposition in LS. She seems to have pointed past history etc. Delaying tactics. Even after such pleas, as there is a fear of anytime declaration, some cabal inside and outside BJP is releasing such news plants.

You are probably correct, media goons are at work here, see the two links below

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/350 ... on-pm.html

The BJP is expecting to perform well in Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan but has some worries in Delhi where it has not projected a chief ministerial candidate.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bjp-likely-t ... 37-64.html

In case we lose say two of the four states, it will reflect badly on Modi as our political adversaries will blame it on him," a senior BJP leader said. Though BJP is confident of victory in Congress-ruled Rajasthan and to a great extent in Madhya Pradesh, the chances are slim in Chhattisgarh and quite bleak in Delhi, according to party sources.

Now what do we believe??

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 10 Aug 2013 20:43

MIM burns NM flex poster on flyover... Major phati hain saalon ki. Nice, nice.

My mom says some telugu channel reported that 50+ people each have registered / are coming to attend the rally from places like IIT-M, IIT-B and ISB Hyderabad tomorrow.

disha · Post by **disha** » 10 Aug 2013 21:31

Singha wrote:well said. up until the 1990s the INC did have some effective old-school leaders who rose to power in the IG years. as you say not exactly perfect but no slouches in governance and would not sell the country like the current handpicked set. [\b] ...

IG and RG for all their warts would not sell India like SG. For IG and to a great extent RG, politics was a gladiatorial sport which they enjoyed immensely., but their patriotism was never under question.

SG has done some photo-ops to "prove" her Indian'ness., never has she spoken extempore on what she likes about the civilizational values of India. Till the day she does not speak, she should be assumed as crypto-xtian mafiosi with suspect abilities and suspect intentions.

For people who question people who view her suspiciously, simple request - please give me keys to your home, bank accounts and lockers, vehicles and land and all other income sources first!

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 10 Aug 2013 22:32

M Joshi · Post by **M Joshi** » 11 Aug 2013 00:02

^^ Blow to Modi: Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan it seems took a dig at Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi by writing wrong spelling of his first name. Experts say it's a big deal.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 11 Aug 2013 00:52

ramana wrote:Narayana Rao, I dont see how you see a role for BJP in AP? BJP in AP is led by regional leaders who dont even travel the length and breadth of the state. And even in their region they dont have much support.

Whether really or in an artificial manner it is two states for 2014 elections. In T region TDP means nothing in reality but on the other side it represents a certain groups. In T region, irrespective of recent performance of BJP, in terms of votes it has lakhs of votes.

From my sources, TDP+BJP as a pre-poll alliance is being worked out with Modi+CBN as governance kings. They are not going to leave the entire Telangana to INC+KCR. There are a lot of votes in Telangana urban areas including Hyderabad that are very anti-INC and anti-KCR. Modi's team is working towards getting CBN on to platform. They want to give a straight contest KCR+INC Vs BJP+TDP. The votes for INC will dry up if they do not deliver Telangana before elections.

In the end TDP never got any secular votes except in CBN's clouded mind. In a do-or-die situation, he needs to go with the polarized stuff. On the non-T side the politics will be different and going with BJP does not have any affect. As INC dies, the contest is only between Jagan and TDP.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 11 Aug 2013 00:58

M Joshi wrote:^^ Blow to Modi: Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan it seems took a dig at Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi by writing wrong spelling of his first name. Experts say it's a big deal.

Another Blow Job to Modi by paid Journalists?

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 11 Aug 2013 02:35

VikramS wrote:Rudradev:
Your posts need to be shared outside BRF.
Question is where and how.
Keep them short & to the point.

I'm posting all these posts on my 5 different fb accounts, if they are from GDF Burqa then I right example like: "RD writes on nationalist forums....." OR "Devguru's views on nationalist forums...."

If the post is from Strat forum then I provide the link.

THEY ARE ALL A HUGE SUCCESS, also I post them on Sswamy and Nmodi's fb accounts.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 11 Aug 2013 02:38

Hari Seldon wrote:from twitter, TIFWIW:

>>The Hindu Express ‏@thehinduexpress 49m
Confirmed. Priyanka Gandhi wants divorce from Vadra. Congress paid media allowed to mock Vadra and finally he will be kicked out from family

Hence the hurry to pass that law of wife getting even ancestral property of husband.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 11 Aug 2013 03:18

Rudradev wrote: They will project themselves as Tribals when necessary (as Jogi himself does), use the Maoist intimidation networks to coerce votes from areas where state security presence is compromised, and buy votes massively elsewhere with money from the same sources that fund Maoism. The Xtian angle as always will be cryptic; how much of India's pop, after all, are Italian Catholics?

But Rudradev ji, all these non-maoist & non-ej congress leaders who are killed by ajit jogi & co. their voters and supporters aren't going to vote congress party. They'd be aware who has done what? Specially the giant like VC Shukla had mass support and his supporters would be angry at christian ajit jogi + sonia combine. I don't think they'll vote congress, at least not so soon, maybe in long run.

The more one moves away from metros, the more people are aware politically then big city dwellers.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 11 Aug 2013 03:55

Manish_Sharma wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:from twitter, TIFWIW:

>>The Hindu Express ‏@thehinduexpress 49m
Confirmed. Priyanka Gandhi wants divorce from Vadra. Congress paid media allowed to mock Vadra and finally he will be kicked out from family

Hence the hurry to pass that law of wife getting even ancestral property of husband.

That law even if passed is only valid for future marriages

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 11 Aug 2013 07:15

Has (Modi) Singham arrived in HYD to Chew and spit the Owasi Cheungam ?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 11 Aug 2013 07:27

BJP-haters’ new plot to stall Modi

Sunday, 11 August 2013 | Swapan Dasgupta

Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan is both an accomplished politician and blessed with a pleasing personality. He has admirers cutting across the political and ideological divide. If the opinion polls are to be believed, his popularity and administrative skills should see the BJP win a third term in this mid-sized State of central India.

However, Shivraj has recently been confronted with a unique problem that, to be fair, is not of his own making. He has become the favourite BJP politician of those who have never supported nor are ever likely to support the party he belongs to. Ever since it has become clear that Nitish Kumar’s departure from the NDA on the question of Narendra Modi does not enjoy the unqualified endorsement of the people of Bihar, Shivraj has become the darling of those who otherwise hate the BJP.

LK Advani tried hard to fill this unlikely slot but somehow there is growing realisation that his moment to be the proverbial right man in the wrong party has gone . Hence, the chattering class’ anointment of Shivraj as the man they would love to oppose. That the sudden discovery of Shivraj owes considerably to the fear of the Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi is not in any serious doubt. If the projection of Modi was likely to result in a clear electoral sweep for the Congress and its allies — as the likes of Digvijay Singh like to proclaim — there would have been no gratuitous show of concern for the fate of the BJP.

Atal Bihari Vajpayee was another so-called ‘right man in the wrong party’ but you just have to go through the old newspaper files of the election of 1996 and 1998 to realise that the same class of people who shower Shivraj with flowery compliments were also the ones who warned the country of impending fascism if the BJP somehow managed to come to power. A casual perusal of newspaper files of 1998, the time Sonia Gandhi joined politics formally, will reveal a higher intensity of the attack on both Vajpayee and the BJP. Yes, a small section of the old Establishment (mainly retired bureaucrats and military officers) did endorse Vajpayee openly but they were a small minority.

Those who believe that if the BJP re-calibrated its politics to appeal to the old Establishment (what may better be called the ancient regime) it would acquire greater acceptability are living in a dream world. Yes, there is a definite political objective in broadening the scope of the nationalist umbrella and reaching out to Congress voters who are disgusted with the UPA’s dismal record in Government. No election can be won or even closely contested unless a political party acquires the ability to reach out to those who are not its natural supporters. But this is different from being swayed by the syrupy pronouncements of those who have an ulterior motive in projecting their version of the alternative.

Having been out of the power structure for long and having been the objects of social disdain of the Nehruvian Establishment, some BJP leaders have craved social acceptability. They are secretly pleased when the beautiful people whisper “such a good chap, pity he is in the BJP.” Worse, they often indulge in political contortions to reach out to the other side and invariably end up falling between two stools. Advani’s certificate to Muhammad Ali Jinnah was such an exercise and ended up destroying him politically. Nitish Kumar’s anti-Modi grandstanding was also driven by similar compulsions.

Shivraj has so far resisted all such blandishments. He has tried to be nice to everyone and the outcome hasn’t always been wholesome. Advani’s generous praise for him was not entirely innocent; its subtext was tantamount to the disavowal of Modi. Raza Murad, the person Uma Bharti described as a C-grade Bollywood actor wasn’t even that subtle. He took advantage of an Eid gathering where Shivraj was present to declaim against Modi’s national candidature. The occasion was such that it was singularly inappropriate for Shivraj to either protest or respond. Consequently, the CM of MP found himself engulfed in a needless controversy by sheer association.

Perhaps Modi should surprise everyone by suddenly appearing on a public stage with an embroidered skull cap, just as Shivraj did. Would that impress his detractors enough to suddenly hail him as the epitome of “secularism”? Would that result in all the talk of him being a communal ogre abruptly coming to an end? For that matter, will Raza Murad be seen on the streets of Bhopal in November appealing to his co-religionists to vote for the local BJP and ensure another term as Chief Minister for Shivraj?

Symbolism has a place in public life but its practice doesn’t necessarily influence election results. A few years ago the CPI(M) formally censured one of its stalwarts in West Bengal for offering puja at the temple in Tarakeshwar. Was there an outcry? Did the party’s godlessness become an election issue, and did the anti-Red forces seize upon that lapse to call the Left Front anti-Hindu? The answers don’t need elaboration.

India is a land of many languages and faiths, but it is also a land bound by a common nationality. What matters is not who engages in how much symbolism and who goes to how many mandirs, mosques, gurdwaras and churches. The relevant criterion for governance is common citizenship.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/ ... -modi.html

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 11 Aug 2013 07:33

aab vadra ka kya hoga kalia

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 11 Aug 2013 08:48

Perhaps Modi should surprise everyone by suddenly appearing on a public stage with an embroidered skull cap, just as Shivraj did. Would that impress his detractors enough to suddenly hail him as the epitome of “secularism”? Would that result in all the talk of him being a communal ogre abruptly coming to an end? For that matter, will Raza Murad be seen on the streets of Bhopal in November appealing to his co-religionists to vote for the local BJP and ensure another term as Chief Minister for Shivraj?

Symbolism has a place in public life but its practice doesn’t necessarily influence election results. A few years ago the CPI(M) formally censured one of its stalwarts in West Bengal for offering puja at the temple in Tarakeshwar. Was there an outcry? Did the party’s godlessness become an election issue, and did the anti-Red forces seize upon that lapse to call the Left Front anti-Hindu? The answers don’t need elaboration.

India is a land of many languages and faiths, but it is also a land bound by a common nationality. What matters is not who engages in how much symbolism and who goes to how many mandirs, mosques, gurdwaras and churches. The relevant criterion for governance is common citizenship.

This is the most beautiful part of that article. Symbolism has become a joke. In AP, BJP folks are the one who started iftar parties.

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 11 Aug 2013 09:26

In AP, BJP folks are the one who started iftar parties.

why was that so?

because tiger Narendra (of BJP)and Owissi used to drink together and plot the land occupation in prime Hyderabad localities

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 11 Aug 2013 09:46

Amyrao wrote:
In AP, BJP folks are the one who started iftar parties.
why was that so?

because tiger Narendra (of BJP)and Owissi used to drink together and plot the land occupation in prime Hyderabad localities

You mean he is the "Vijay Goel" of Hyderabad?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 11 Aug 2013 09:53

http://www.sakshi.com/video/live

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 11 Aug 2013 12:07

At what time is it today?

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 11 Aug 2013 12:28

4 PM.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 11 Aug 2013 13:00

Any TV channel telecasting it live?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 Aug 2013 13:23

^^ Local telugu channels should carry a live telecast. 'National' channels can safely be assumed to follow orders and bury the news.

From twitter, ppl Qing up a coupla hrs early already...

festive atmosphere around the venue

namo arrives at the airport. KKR would've made a darned strong statement to his high command by coming to receive namo..../jus'Kiddin'

scooter rally to popularize the namo rally further...

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 Aug 2013 13:36

OK, this is just for laughs only... but in the ongoing twitter war, INC dirty tricks yet again show up for their incompetence and transparency.... a load of fake tweets all using exact same language. I'm aware of a few seedy firms that sell such services...fake profile creation and all.... astroturfing its called in massaland.

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 11 Aug 2013 13:52

^ Yeah there has been a suddden spurt in support for Congress. I am pretty sure it's the e-NREGA funds.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 Aug 2013 13:59

any links where i can watch this online live? TIA.

P.s.
heard tv9 and gemeini tv are telecasting live. meanwhile, burnol stocks soldout in old city medshops...

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 11 Aug 2013 14:10

I wonder how they are planning to deal with connectivity subterfuge. Especially upstate AP where they are planning to broadcast NaMo's speech live in single screen theaters. Already see on twitter that there are connectivity issues. Or a convenient power outage? Cant put it past these subverting thugs.

Meanwhile, admire the thoughts and organisation power. LED screens outside the stadium, the 3D holographic tech, the idea of staming the speech live in single screen theaters across the state, the collection of charity funds...all setting new benchmarks. Awesome!

James B · Post by **James B** » 11 Aug 2013 14:11

Hari Seldon wrote:any links where i can watch this online live? TIA.

P.s.
heard tv9 and gemeini tv are telecasting live. meanwhile, burnol stocks soldout in old city medshops...

Live streaming on Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk_lR88bpsg

Alternative link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWQR19LNJDc

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 11 Aug 2013 14:15

Saumya Ahuja pic on the anti Modi twitter is a Sri Lankan Tamil actress..Pooja Umashankar

http://cinema.pluz.in/celebs/kollywood/ ... rofile.htm

James B · Post by **James B** » 11 Aug 2013 14:25

A lot of Telugu Cinema industry people meeting Modi. So far, Chrianjeevi's BIL Allu Arvind, Mohanbabu & family, Muralimohan (of TDP), Ramgopal Verma, Raghavendra Rao, Goutami, Jagapati Babu etc have met him.

à¤µà¤°à¥à¤£ · Post by **à¤µà¤°à¥à¤£** » 11 Aug 2013 14:26

harbans wrote:Saumya Ahuja pic on the anti Modi twitter is a Sri Lankan Tamil actress..Pooja Umashankar
http://cinema.pluz.in/celebs/kollywood/ ... rofile.htm

^^ They are all fake. The last two pictures are of hollywood celebrities. It seems their new strategy is to use pretty faces in order to influence opinion since their words cannot

James B · Post by **James B** » 11 Aug 2013 14:34

Crowds at LB stadium. By the way its full.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 11 Aug 2013 14:41

Looking forward to the public meeting in Hyderabad tomorrow! A few days back I requested you all to share your thoughts, ideas & suggestions for various issues concerning our nation, particularly the state of Andhra Pradesh. The response I have got is gladdening! The suggestions and ideas cover a wide range of issues ranging from the economy, jobs, corruption to lack of development and the current political scenario in India. I am sharing some of your comments below http://nm4.in/18TGXv1

Raghavendra Bidarkar
In today’s world communication has become a good medium to reach to each and every person and you are advocating this through social media. As you are also aware that about 70% of our population lives in villages and where you should do something to reach through social media.

PranabChaturvedi
Hyderabad which had the reputation of being an IT hub is fast losing it and is turning into a data-entry operator's zone !! Tell us how the next Govt. would change the quality of education provided to the youth? How do you plan to help the start-up's in being able to compete with the Big players in IT industry

SairamPonnada
Best to discuss about black and white money, so youth can know how the black money is generated and misused and also the ways to stop them.

skaranam · Post by **skaranam** » 11 Aug 2013 14:42

List of personalities...who have met NaMo in Hyd

Film Personalities

1. Film Actor Balakrishna....close to CBN
2. Film Actor Mohan Babu and his family
3. Gowthami - Kamal Hasan's wife ??
4. Jagapathi Babu
5. Keeravani
6. Film Producer Dil Raju
7. Suman film actor
8. Raghvendra Rao

Non-Film

1. Care Hospital Chairman Somaraju
2. Shri K. Padmanabhaiah, ex-Home Sectary (1994 - 1997)
3. Shri V. Rama Rao (Ex-Governor of Sikkim)
4. Shri CN Gopinath Reddy IPS

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 11 Aug 2013 14:43

Hari Seldon wrote:any links where i can watch this online live? TIA.

http://www.narendramodi.in/liveevent/social/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWQR19LNJDc

http://www.yuva4india.tv/

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 11 Aug 2013 14:50

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 11 Aug 2013 14:52

Hari garu thanks.....are those channels available in BLR?

James B · Post by **James B** » 11 Aug 2013 14:53

Women going to LB stadium

James B · Post by **James B** » 11 Aug 2013 14:54

SwamyG wrote:Hari garu thanks.....are those channels available in BLR?

Its live on Etv2

http://www.newtvworld.com/India-Live-Tv ... aming.html

member_23679 · Post by **member_23679** » 11 Aug 2013 14:55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJIOnYOsvow - The sound quality on this link is very good.