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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 09:18
by Vayutuvan
"specter". Sounds like Bond. Jay Bond. Shaken, not stirred.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 10:03
by sanjaykumar
^ :eek:

Hard to believe. And why is this not in the national and international media?

But is this selective reportage or is there really a fundamental difference from Democrats?

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 11:48
by chetak
Vayutuvan wrote: 25 Jan 2026 06:46 A lot of Hollywood elites are pedophiles. I forget but there is a famous director who had to flee the country. I think he is in Switzerland now.

Roman Polanski

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 12:17
by vera_k
No coincidence that. Legal marriageable age for girls in California is 12.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 21:16
by SRajesh
Is there any truths to the rumours floating in SM :
OM has ordered strikes on Iran.
IDF bracing for Pre-emptive/Retaliation strikes from Iran!!
Are we going to see a new conflict on 26th Morning.
A friend of mine speculating that this move maybe to stop EU-India Mother of all Deals announcement!!

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 21:43
by A_Gupta
Superior Court of California, San Diego
https://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/sdcourt/juve ... he%20court.
California law requires a person under 18 years of age to obtain consent from at least one parent or guardian and permission in the form of a court order. Granting permission for a minor to marry or establish a domestic partnership is entirely within the discretion of the court.
Note that the legal age of consent in California is 18. So the marriages of minors when there is pregnancy necessary involves statutory rape, if not worse.
Advocacy groups and journalists have repeatedly noted that no official statistics exist on:
How many minors marry each year
The ages of those minors
How often courts approve requests
Demographic breakdowns

In 2024, California passed SB‑575, requiring the State Registrar to count and publish:
The number of minors married between 2019–2024
Each minor’s age and gender
Annual reports going forward
Per researchers:
In states without a strict minimum age (like California), judges often approve marriages when:
There is a pregnancy
Parents support the marriage
The minor is 16 or 17
nvestigations by outlets such as the Associated Press, PBS Frontline, and The Sacramento Bee have reported that:
California courts have approved marriages for minors younger than 16, including early‑teen girls.
Some cases involved pregnancy, which historically increased the likelihood of judicial approval.
Organizations that work directly with forced‑marriage survivors — especially Unchained At Last — have documented:
California cases involving 13‑, 14‑, and 15‑year‑old girls married to adult men.
Survivors who later sought help after being married as young teens in California.
Researchers reviewing older county‑level marriage records (especially pre‑1980) have found:
Multiple instances of marriages involving minors under 16.
Some records showing ages as low as 12 or 13, particularly in rural counties.
These are archival findings, not modern cases, but they are still documented.
During debates over California child‑marriage reform (2017–2024), lawmakers and legal advocates testified that:
Courts have approved marriages for children under 16.
Some cases involved significant age gaps between the minor and the adult spouse.
These statements were made on the record in committee hearings.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 21:51
by A_Gupta
"The most recent bill to ban child marriage—AB 2924 (2024)—was effectively stopped by the Democratic chair of the Assembly Judiciary Committee, Ash Kalra, who demanded amendments that would have gutted the bill before allowing it to be heard."

Assembly Member Ash Kalra represents California's 25th Assembly District, which includes the majority of San José.

Ash Kalra is a supporter of SB 403, California's caste Discrimination legislation.

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Added: the specific objections or amendments Ash Kalra demanded are not available to me even on extensive searching. The San Jose Mercury has an opinion piece behind a pay wall.

<strike>The ACLU and Planned Parenthood fear that AB 2924 will leave pregnant teenagers without options, and so oppose AB 2924.</strike> These two orgs were not against AB 2924; they were against earlier bills that online sources confuse with AB2924.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 22:54
by KL Dubey
vera_k wrote: 25 Jan 2026 12:17 No coincidence that. Legal marriageable age for girls in California is 12.
Missing forest for trees.

There are some legal issues in CA about this and it needs to be addressed, but its not a rampant problem.

In rural America (especially in the south, appalachia, midwest plains) minor sexual abuse is rampant, even socially accepted/tolerated, and shockingly widespread, especially among whites. Even government employees, law enforcement etc, freely indulge in these things with little consequence unless "something else goes seriously wrong."

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 23:24
by vera_k
^ How so?

The problem is rampant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_in_the_American_film_industry

Explains why what is happening with immigration and ICE is not related to the Epstein files as presumed earlier. Since there is no societal consensus against pedophilia in the first place with child marriage being used as a fig leaf.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 25 Jan 2026 23:39
by Vayutuvan
chetak wrote: 25 Jan 2026 11:48 Roman Polanski
Yes. That one.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 00:01
by drnayar
Strong Remarks by Putin

"The biggest mistake we made in our relations with West that we trusted you too much"

"You perceived this trust as weakness and abused it" - PUTIN


https://x.com/NewsAlgebraIND/status/2015265871250256080

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 02:47
by krisna
Few comments - just saw posts - no order of my posts- just writing as it is

1) "Mahatma" name is sanskrit and fully sanatani name . Hence only a Hindu can give it. It was first given around 1908 in south Africa by an Indian. Gandhi had successfully fought against britshits in SA and made them chnage the laws.
later it slowly became popularised by various people in contact with Gandhi. he was known for his simplicity honest in dealings. he preached what he said. His influence grew. later on advice of GK Gokhale he came to India. he set foot in then Bombay on Jan 9 1915. Hence this day is named as Jan Pravasi Bharatiya Divas (for Indian immigrants)
RB Tagore only used the title already given by sanatanis to Gandhi. Muslims as usual always opposed and did not call him. Muslim League opposed when local congress govt which was formed in 1930s officially circulated a letter asking all to address Gandhi as "Mahatma" in India. This also asked britishits to address him as "mahatma". This ultimately gained popularity and became de facto name for Gandhi. Personally Gandhi did not want to be addressed with this name.

2) Regarding venezuela and capture of maduro

A) the long term interests of america

B ) the individual actions of POTUSes and how they want to be remembered for generations to come(legacy). Sometimes both coincide soemtimes they diverge.


A) Long term interests of america- mainatin its status as the top dog in pecking order. It will destroy anything anyone trying to dethrone it.

venezuela was on the wrong side of america esp from Hugo Chavez time . Due to extreme leftism and anti americanism, sanctions were placed on venezuela . Slowly VZ was throttled. Chavez kicked out american oil majors who lost over 12+ billions dollars etc. America retaliated. sanctions remained in effect till date. From peak of over 3 million barrels a day to less than 1 million with dilapidated tech in oil. VZ got life line thru Russia and China. China invested millions all thru legal contracts. What worsened was maduro got more ambitious with BRICS. he wanted to completely divest off dollars and trade in non dollar currencies . This caught the attention of america. This is strict no-no if a country is weak. Since Biden time they were trying to topple maduro(similar to gadaffi and saddam hussein when they wanted to use non dollar currencies). They were analyzing and monitoring him all thru various means. they got the opportunity thru sona bandar time. Military strategy planners got the right opportunity- wanted sona bandar signature- who gave it. There is nothing special about sona bandar (or any other POTUSes in the past).

B ) personal actions of potuses within the larger role of A). sometimes coincides sometimes diverges. classic example is sona bandar which is divergent though his end goals are the same :mrgreen:

A) always takes precedence over B ) roles.

This is where sona bandar gets pilloried and made fun of :rotfl: . Lot of memes and cartoons and stupidity goonadism etc come into play here. yes these can damage relationships with various countries and other side effects. But these get rectified with new incumbent. Not unusual. has happened in the past presidents of usa also in different times etc. We have 45+ presidents to look into over 250 years.

Iran-- again it depends on A) - what the military and other intelligence planners in usa decide. POTUS will be briefed and asked to sign if things are right to america. Long term issues is not usually factored in fully as this is usually unknown fully due to various moving parts during this period. Examples are many thru decades.

3) New president after sona bandar -relationship with nato will be back on track though weakened because of some loss of trust. It will not go away but will improve.


4) Despite sona bandar - actions done by other countries like BRICS will continue on its onward journey - slow steady and methodical. Sona bandar only made the things happen a little faster- made small countries to look at alternatives like brics . Otherwise the same irrespective of any potus.

5) About dictatorship and other epithets hurled at sona bandar. It is actually democrats who harborbed such ambition. FDW roosevelt in 1930 and early 1940s won 4 elections as potus till his death. Then truman became the president. later on 22nd amendment was passed to prevent such POTUSes ambitions. (Please remember again it is democrats create the necessary conditions pass law and exploited by elephants- great example- immigration and its laws- 8) just for fun dont take it seriously- Both sides do things )


6) About ICE and related violence- It depends which parties support ICE. During ombaba term as president both parties- yes elephants and donkeys whole heartedly supported his illegals deportation drive. hence he was very successful because everyone across political divide supported him on this issue . he is called as deportation presidnet and other names. But with sona bandar the very same democrats prevent ICE from carrying out their duties in their states. ICE are from the govt -hence have to follow rules etc.Excesses do happen- has always happened over the years and various POTUSes. It becomes acute when a political party and their supporters actively oppose them in carrying out their duties.This can lead to unnecessary deaths sad but true and happens.

7) Amusing trolls-- I find here and in few usa related threads. Only focussing on sona bandar and noises over him. he wants nosies around him and idoits give it esp dumbo rats. the signals are elsewhere but idiots due to their intense hatred for him - miss these signals. (please read section 2 with parts A and B and how these define each presdiency). I do get daily calls/messages varies 1-10 messages etc about sonabandar - he did this -that-- come for protest, donate (give) money!! :eek: But run away when I ask about sanatani stuff -- nod head, keep silent or blame moi for yindutva nonsense . I do have given money hence I am .... :(

8 ) Overall this crazy presdiency is still a huge net gain for India however I see it. Not much of khalistani scums actvities(had one attack at zagreb croatia on iskcon temple). Sanatani attacks in usa is common irrespective of whoever is in power relatively speaking. on social media there is coordination of attacks both sides inclduing dumborats which masquerade as elephnat attacks on yindoos. many from other countries like piecefuls and some safed christians join in anonymously including our friendly neighborhood and turkiye etc .
Democrats create active laws to hurt yindoos along with their institutions creating biased studies against yindoos that is a little more than elephants yelling on social media.

Please avoid beleving about Tulsi being DNI chief as do not invite- thru democrat media . we need control of anti India related activities- so far it is ok much better than democrat potus. Tulsi was aware and said it is target raid and not regime change- note only maduro removed but not the entire party apparatus. Both Tulsi and kash have got sona bandar confidence hence in their jobs so far unless one hears democratic media.

few comments on Vivek Ramaswamy- irrespective of his political innings- he has raised the profile of sanatanis much more than decades of democratic sanatanis who did little to advance sanatani interests. Democratic party apparatus does not like sanatanis who display their identity. They downgrade that sanatani or gets kicked out. Laughable to read comments on him by trolls. I am yet to see any democratic sanatani proudly say in frint of democratic supporters what Vivek has said about his sanatani faith boldly without being shouted down. yet to see a democratic political sanatani proudly post pics videos of temple visits and say openly about his/her faith withiut fear or favor from democratic party apparatus.


There is a famous saying - nothing happens over decades suddenly things move within days-weeks. This is the time for next 2-3 years.

enjoy the ride :P

please correct me - I can be wrong - on some issues - I will re-adjust my understanding.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 02:53
by krisna
sona bandar is an extreme form of potus- not seen commonly. he will do his duty as president of usa wrt A) but his individual as B ) is what will name him negatively and create a lot of frcition and unnecessary trust and loss of prestige for usa.

He wants virtually no opposition-he attacks anyone and everyone irrespective of party- he attacks democrats republicans and others. This includes leaders of countries also. he does not attack all people even in democratic party who dont attack him personally. please check and verify!!. He is full of himself and is MR Universe. Repubs are wary of him. He an ex-democrat is still their best vote getter. everything matters in politics and winnings take everything.

Few leaders like Namo have understood him- just ignore his bait- be patient and do your work with back channels. Lot of work ongoing behind the scenes- India-usa .

many esp dumbo rats think he lies-Yes he is a conman big time liar. He actually baits people to make comments and create news for himself. remember he is a genius !! and MR Universe. IOW dumbo rats feed him . complete idiots- hence I prefer to call them dumbo rats. This is not related to intelligence but common sense.

he has won 2 terms and will be protected from immunity mostly - he knows it. he can do whatever he wants. POTUS have lot of immunity during their term and after. The dumbo rats filed several cases upto 100 many of which many did not stand full scrutiny. Many failed due to various reasons. Some were genuine but got lost in this too many frivolous cases due to their intense hatred towards him. He is paying them back royally. He feels they targetted him.

Few things to note - he is not necessarily against immigration - he has lot of immigrants in his companies LOL. But he being a politician he has to win with his backs against the WALL - hence he did all the nonsense to win . In politics all is about winning- stakes are high. Dumbo rats with their mistakes, their vengenance on him and feeding him made him 2nd term potus. Now they are suffering and he is enjoying their unhappiness.

immaterial if right or wrong- it is all politics with high stakes . people do suffer because of this.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 03:08
by KL Dubey
vera_k wrote: 25 Jan 2026 23:24 ^ How so?

The problem is rampant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_in_the_American_film_industry
That's a very specific/microcosm/rather small example. The broader "entertainment" and "hospitality" industry (music, film, media, hotel, casino, p***ography, prostitution whether legalized or not) is obviously well known to have issues of sexual abuse of both adults and minors. The current US president actually worked in that industry previously. "Marriageable age" is not the issue in this industry, the abusers don't usually get married to the abused victims.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 03:18
by A_Gupta
The gain to India from Trump is sort of accidental. Indian politicians of any particular party will not push reforms further if they already have a formula that is winning over the other parties - why would they take the political risk? But further reforms were necessary; and Trump's tariff tiff with India forced the NDA's hands; so reforms that were ready and languishing were taken up and pushed through. It also forced Indian businesses to get off their collective a*ses and develop alternate markets. Also it lent a new urgency to Free Trade Agreements, both with India and with its partners.

But the Trump continuation of the Biden Bangladesh policy plus the new Trump-Pakistan coziness; the end of the Quad; these are not to India's advantage. (Also see below).

Further, while there are lots of MoUs and promises of investment in India, don't count the money till it actually arrives. 2025 was a bad year for India's net Foreign Direct Investment - and this is in part because of the uncertainty created by Trump's daily tariff announcements. The amazing thing is that India grew at 7.4% with all this. In a more favorable environment, maybe India would have a point or two more of GDP growth.

(Just as an FYI, if you have two years of growth, say 7% and 10%, then at the end, you will have an economy of the same size whichever growth comes first. Say, baseline = 100, 100 * 1.07 + 1.10 = 100 * 1.10 * 1.07 = 117.7.
However, if you have the 10% growth first, you will have greater wealth at the end of the two years.
100 * 1.07 = 107; 107 * 1.10 = 117.7, total over two years = 224.7
100 * 1.10 = 110; 110 * 1.07 = 117.7, total over two years = 227.7
If you earned 227.7 over 224.7 over two years, that is significant.

The point being that in the campaign to become Viksit Bharat 2047; the greater the growth in the earlier years the better. You might have the same national income in 2047; but the national wealth can be very different.

Trump is costing India this early growth in a sense, in that with the same effort as today, India would have grown more --- and so I don't consider it as a "huge net gain for India". The sense in which Trump is not costing India is that complacency and laziness would have prevailed but for Trump.

THE US PINCER THROUGH PAKISTAN AND BANGLADESH / A#GUNNERSSHOT ANALYSIS
https://www.youtube.com/live/jPwVM87Z5E ... 1vROvX3VcB
#Pakistan and #Bangladesh are seemingly pursuing their #AntiIndia Agenda independently. However when seen from an overarching view point it is clear that it is the #USA which is orchestrating and promoting an agenda in both these countries which reinforces anti #India standpoints there. The USA is carrying out a pincer move against India. Be that as it may, #China is waiting in the wings to take over from USA when its interest will wane eventually. There should be clarity in Indian thinking that the US pincer is here to stay.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 03:18
by KL Dubey
I guess the issue relevant to BRF is the fact that the enforcement going on in Minneapolis and a few other places is disregarding US citizen/non-citizen, its about people of color (which will include Indians) and foreign-looking/sounding people living in the US. Some white people protesting this enforcement behavior have also been affected (and killed).

Once again, an issue of importance has been reduced to stupid-a$$ discussions on republicans and democrats. Take that to some US domestic forums/X etc where these same uncle tom fellows will be trash-talked by white racists. For some reason these fellows feel there is more tolerance for nonsense here.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 03:23
by A_Gupta
And I have heard from a medical person in Maryland, a case of polio has been seen (it hasn't made the news or the statistics yet). This is good for whom precisely?

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 03:30
by gakakkad
So polio is active is porkiland ,Afghanistan ,Somalia and massa .

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 03:31
by A_Gupta
KL Dubey wrote: 26 Jan 2026 03:18 I guess the issue relevant to BRF is the fact that the enforcement going on in Minneapolis and a few other places is disregarding US citizen/non-citizen, its about people of color (which will include Indians) and foreign-looking/sounding people living in the US. Some white people protesting this enforcement behavior have also been affected (and killed).
"On December 19, DHS said that 622,000 noncitizens had been deported since Trump took office, a high—but not historic—number. It is below the 778,000 repatriations carried out in the final full fiscal year of the Biden administration, and well short of the Trump team’s pledge of 1 million deportations per year. The administration’s deportation number likely includes noncitizens turned away at U.S. borders and at airports; limited release of immigration enforcement data means it is unclear who is being counted and how."

How many people were killed during the Biden administration by ICE? The additional important point relevant to BRF is that Trump is deliberately creating a reign of terror.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 03:53
by KL Dubey
Instead of irrelevant Rep-Dem posts from the usual suspects, the question: "How might the 5 million documented people of Indian descent living in USA approach this together?" should be discussed.

This is a diverse population by immigration categories, roughly an equal split among four categories: descendants of immigrants (i.e. US born), india-born naturalized citizens, permanent residents, and visa holders (students/professionals).

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 04:12
by KL Dubey
A_Gupta wrote: 26 Jan 2026 03:18 The gain to India from Trump is sort of accidental.
Its not a "gain", its a "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger", "a blessing in disguise", or an "eye-opener".

Nobody in Bharat made any plan (whether anticipatory or reactive) to "gain" from the current administration's "tactical brilliance :roll:". The focus has always been on vikasit bharat 2047. Its 26 Jan in bharat today. 21 more years of focus, and then nobody will care much in Bharat about what the USA is doing.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 04:24
by KL Dubey
A_Gupta wrote: 26 Jan 2026 03:31
KL Dubey wrote: 26 Jan 2026 03:18 I guess the issue relevant to BRF is the fact that the enforcement going on in Minneapolis and a few other places is disregarding US citizen/non-citizen, its about people of color (which will include Indians) and foreign-looking/sounding people living in the US. Some white people protesting this enforcement behavior have also been affected (and killed).
"On December 19, DHS said that 622,000 noncitizens had been deported since Trump took office, a high—but not historic—number. It is below the 778,000 repatriations carried out in the final full fiscal year of the Biden administration, and well short of the Trump team’s pledge of 1 million deportations per year. The administration’s deportation number likely includes noncitizens turned away at U.S. borders and at airports; limited release of immigration enforcement data means it is unclear who is being counted and how."

How many people were killed during the Biden administration by ICE? The additional important point relevant to BRF is that Trump is deliberately creating a reign of terror.
Bhai, mujhe nahin pataa. ye sab phaltu ki baatein hain.

Every day some 5000 Mexicans try to cross the border, probably 75% are caught and deported back. Many of them come right back and try again till they get through. These border activities require tens of billions of dollars of taxpayer money every year. Eventually, this causes economic drain and collapse, and the mexicans eventually get to "reclaim" their territories. Nobody in USA seems capable of solving this problem, so the only other possibility is a natural "karma" consequence of the 1850 USA-Mexico war.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 06:09
by Amber G.
- Alex Jeffrey Pretti was a US citizen.
- He was 37 years old.
- He was an intensive care nurse.
- He had a permit to carry a weapon.
- He did not draw the weapon.
- ICE agents removed his weapon from its holster before they shot him.

Make no mistake: an American citizen was murdered by the U.S. government today.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 06:34
by Jay
Vayutuvan wrote: 25 Jan 2026 09:18 "specter". Sounds like Bond. Jay Bond. Shaken, not stirred.
better than hot air, I guess :rotfl:

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 08:44
by A_Gupta
The Straits Times of Singapore reports:
US threat of 100% semiconductor tariffs rattles South Korea
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east- ... op-stories
SEOUL - Merely three months after South Korea celebrated the securing of a trade deal with the United States to lower US-imposed reciprocal tariffs from 25 per cent to 15 per cent, fresh uncertainty has set in.
At a ground-breaking ceremony for Micron Technology’s new semiconductor plant in Syracuse, New York, on Jan 16, US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick threatened new levies for companies exporting chips to the US.
“Everyone who wants to build memory has two choices: They can pay a 100 per cent tariff, or they can build in America,” Mr Lutnick had said, repeating comments made a day earlier in an interview with CNBC.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 09:29
by A_Gupta
Amber G. wrote: 26 Jan 2026 06:09 - Alex Jeffrey Pretti was a US citizen.
- He was 37 years old.
- He was an intensive care nurse.
- He had a permit to carry a weapon.
- He did not draw the weapon.
- ICE agents removed his weapon from its holster before they shot him.

Make no mistake: an American citizen was murdered by the U.S. government today.
And the govt is lying and lying and lying about what happened.
None of the usual procedures of investigating any shooting by a government official are being followed.
And there is a large cohort arguing that the shooting was justified.
विनाश काले विपरीत बुद्धि

"Everybody can see what happened in those videos, and it doesn’t match what the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security are saying, what the president is saying, what the president’s advisers are saying. This was not a man who was being aggressive towards federal agents—he was filming them."

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 26 Jan 2026 16:35
by chetak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gLSBR-DnOc


Battling White House: Ted Cruz names Trump, Vance, Navarro in India deal delay






US Senator Ted Cruz has blamed President Donald Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance and White House trade adviser Peter Navarro for delaying a proposed trade agreement with India, according to purported leaked audio recordings cited in an Axios report.


https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/ ... f-tensions

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 27 Jan 2026 10:56
by g.sarkar
vera_k wrote: 25 Jan 2026 12:17 No coincidence that. Legal marriageable age for girls in California is 12.
This reminds me, a few years back, my neighbor's daughter had a baby at 17. Her boy friend was 25, and studying in a community college. They thought over the situation and decided to accept. Now, they could have called the Police and reported it as rape. But the daughter would not agree to file charges, and they had to think of the grand kid. I think she was trying to complete her high school. In California teen pregnancy is common due to sexual activity without protection, but marriage at an early age is not. Here in this case the uncommon fact was the age difference.
Gautam

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 27 Jan 2026 11:03
by g.sarkar
https://sundayguardianlive.com/world/us ... ct-166669/
US Raises Tariffs on South Korean Imports to 25% Over Trade Deal Delay; Seoul Seeks Urgent Talks as Markets React
Sumit Kumar, January 27, 2026

The United States has announced a sharp increase in tariffs on South Korean imports, escalating pressure on its Asian ally over a trade agreement that has not yet been fully approved. President Donald Trump said the tariff rate will rise to 25% from the previous 15% on a broad range of products, including automobiles, lumber, and pharmaceuticals.
Trump announced on social media, accusing South Korea’s legislature of failing to enact a deal both nations reached in 2025. “South Korea’s Legislature is not living up to its Deal with the United States,” he wrote, underscoring his frustration with the stalled process.
Trump Tariff on South Korea: What Products Are Affected by the New Tariffs?
The tariff hike directly affects key South Korean export sectors:
Automobiles and auto parts
Lumber and wood products
Pharmaceuticals
All other reciprocal imports from South Korea
Tariffs are taxes paid by companies importing goods, and this increase means that US firms buying these products will face heavier duties, making imports more expensive for American businesses and consumers.
Trump Tariff on South Korea: Background of the Trade Deal and Delay
Washington and Seoul struck a broad trade and investment deal in October 2025, which included a commitment from South Korea to invest $350 billion in the United States and a reduction of tariffs to 15% as part of reciprocal concessions.
Under the agreement, the lower tariff rates were contingent on South Korea’s National Assembly approving the deal, a process that has taken longer than expected. Seoul insists it has yet to receive formal notification of the tariff increase and faces internal debate over how to proceed with legislation.
Trade officials say South Korea’s Industry Minister Kim Jung-kwan will soon visit Washington to meet US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to discuss the issue, signalling both sides may seek a diplomatic solution.
......
Gautam

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 27 Jan 2026 21:17
by Jay
krisna wrote: 26 Jan 2026 02:47
6) About ICE and related violence- It depends which parties support ICE. During ombaba term as president both parties- yes elephants and donkeys whole heartedly supported his illegals deportation drive. hence he was very successful because everyone across political divide supported him on this issue . he is called as deportation presidnet and other names. But with sona bandar the very same democrats prevent ICE from carrying out their duties in their states. ICE are from the govt -hence have to follow rules etc.Excesses do happen- has always happened over the years and various POTUSes. It becomes acute when a political party and their supporters actively oppose them in carrying out their duties.This can lead to unnecessary deaths sad but true and happens.
There are several incorrect assumptions and conclusions in your post, but I want to address this one first.

There are monumental differences between how the Obama administration approached deportations and how the current administration does. At a philosophical level, the trump admin frames immigration as a civilizational conflict—pitting a presumed “settler” white population against immigrants (both documented and undocumented). Previous administrations, by contrast, largely approached immigration enforcement from a law-and-order framework, however imperfectly.

When a subset of the population is portrayed as the source of everything wrong in the country, and a federal apparatus with a budget exceeding $170 billion is deployed to intimidate and terrorize that group, the outcome is predictable violence and unrest. While it is true that the obama admin deported more people numerically, it did not employ these “gestapo-style” tactics, nor did it deliberately seek to provoke public confrontation through spectacle and fear.

Under obama, the administration explicitly established prioritized categories for arrest and deportation. The highest priority included undocumented immigrants who posed a threat to national security or public safety—such as individuals involved in or suspected of terrorism or espionage, those with serious criminal convictions or outstanding warrants, or participants in organized criminal gangs.

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/release ... rities.pdf

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/secure-commu ... n-memo.pdf

The current admins approach, by contrast, is effectively to round up everyone—men, women, and children—based largely on appearance or suspicion, and then determine status afterward. Earlier administrations also did not deploy heavily armed ICE units into cities and communities as a show of force, deliberately antagonizing local populations while using threats of cruelty and punishment to compel compliance.

To claim that what this administration is doing is merely a continuation of past policies is categorically incorrect and unsupported by direct evidence.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 27 Jan 2026 21:58
by A_Gupta
Thank you @Jay.
What is impossible to convey is that it’s so much worse than what you see via social media. The media simply can’t tell the story of the hundreds of unmarked SUVs rolling around the metro on a daily basis, beating and kidnapping women, children, elderly, and citizens alike.

Every day, a dozen or more cars are left idling with doors open and smashed windows in subzero temps. Flashbangs are routinely being thrown into homes where no warrant exists, oftentimes traumatizing families inside. Parents now instinctively know to shout the names of their children and school while being disappeared, hoping a bystander will go to that school to make sure the child isn’t left unattended for days at a time, not knowing where their parent went.

Chemical weapons are being used on peaceful bystanders to the point where we don’t even report it anymore. The same with automatic weapons being unholstered and pointed between the eyeballs of US citizens.

Schools with high immigrant populations have mostly closed, and children of color in predominantly white districts don’t come to school anymore. Where school is taking place, parents form human chains at pickup and drop-off, both to look for ICE activity and subsequently ensure they are taken due to “obstructing federal officers” instead of the children.

The first death in ICE custody (Victor Manuel Diaz) has been recorded due to the brutality of the beatings during the arrest and lack of subsequent medical care, and there are more to come.

Right now, it’s chaos that is akin to the suspension of habeas corpus. Lawyers can’t get to their clients, and oftentimes ICE can’t find them.

Second, our learning thus far — should this come to your city at some point in the future — is that no one is coming to save you or your city. This realization was rock bottom for our city through this whole ordeal. Folks smarter than me can probably explain why, buy my cheap-seats view is that state and local officials are prohibited by law from interfering with legal federal enforcement activities, and the current game of illegal chicken is deliberately designed to incite and escalate “blue on blue” violence as a pretext for martial law.

So far, I believe our community understands the game and is denying victory through non-violent means, lawsuits, etc. In the meantime, we are left to grind it out in the streets.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 27 Jan 2026 22:27
by bala
After the India - EU trade agreement, the US is looking rather foolish thanks to their US Deep State chutiyas. DJT is really the front end spokesperson but behind the scenes the minions thought they were clever with Tariffs, etc. But this is boomeranging on them big time. Eventually the US will look silly with such trade deals. China will be the winner since the Deep State's investments are stuck in China. China happily diverts its stuff via other nations into the US. You can go down any shop/big chain in the US and they now say made in cambodia, thailand, vietnam, mexico, etc but the maal is actually made in china. The rare earths stuff from china has the US by their balls, so they can't do anything. Meanwhile the rest of the world is thumbing their nose at US. The dynamics of trade for the US is permanently screwed up in various areas. Surprisingly the MNCs are fleeing towards India big time since they see the EU parking themselves in India. Eventually the EU will win since their trinkets will be made in India instead of cheenland. EU may settle with Russia too going forward since their cheap energy pipeline is Russian. The #1 and #2 of the world will be in deadly embrace with each other and the rest will ignore them. India will be happy to be #3 and growing and pull in the rest of the world sensibly with all round growth. For India, Africans are on board and so is South America. Even cheenland is bending a bit with India and knows that BRICS is required for its independence wrt to US.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 28 Jan 2026 00:06
by Amber G.
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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 28 Jan 2026 02:44
by Vayutuvan
"Some people are always critical of vague statements. I tend rather to be critical of precise statements: they are the only ones which can correctly be labeled 'wrong.'" — Raymond Smullyan

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 28 Jan 2026 04:16
by RCase
What prevents OM from announcing massive tariffs on EU and India? What are the ramifications? Seems like the current EU-US trade is about EUR 1.7T compared to projected EU-Ind trade to be EUR 850B.

What are the implications if US-China from a trade deal, whereby China keeps making stuff that US imports at near free tariffs and plows it back into US Treasuries?

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 28 Jan 2026 04:48
by krisna
My quote is used for some arguments which I find very superficial.

My post is here posting.php?mode=quote&p=2670261 with quote below
6) About ICE and related violence- It depends which parties support ICE. During ombaba term as president both parties- yes elephants and donkeys whole heartedly supported his illegals deportation drive. hence he was very successful because everyone across political divide supported him on this issue . he is called as deportation presidnet and other names. But with sona bandar the very same democrats prevent ICE from carrying out their duties in their states. ICE are from the govt -hence have to follow rules etc.Excesses do happen- has always happened over the years and various POTUSes. It becomes acute when a political party and their supporters actively oppose them in carrying out their duties.This can lead to unnecessary deaths sad but true and happens.
ICE operates at federal level. The sanctuary cities policy operates at state city level .
Migrant population are spread across many states both republican and democratic states. Florida and Texas also have lot of migrants like democratic ones. Data shows many migrants are moving to repub states also. Approximately equal numbers live in both repub and democratic states.

Unauthorised populations as per PEW research 2023

California - Democrat 2.3 million ​ | 5.9%
Texas - Republican 2.1 million ​ | 6.7%
Florida - Republican 1.6 million | 7.1%
New York - Democrat 825,000 | 4.2%
New Jersey- Democrat 600,000 | 6.5%
Illinois - Democrat 550,000 | 2.1%

Majority of arrests in republican states more in jails/prisons( mainly criminals)

majority of arrests in democratic states occur more in streets-- why is this is .

ICE has NO PROBLEM operating in repub states same as in obama ERA or any other POTUS irrespective of party affiliation in general. NO major street protests or obstruction of ICE work. (small skirmishes have occurred but not of scale of democrtaic states protests which are actively funded and abetted)

Republican states --ICE asks local populations/govts to help in identifying unauthorised populations in each states local city muicipality etc etc . Republican states do and cooperate with ICE hence no need for street policing. data is collected and verified thoroughly. If illegal found he is taked to detention center and follow the due course of law include deportation-- same as Obama era .NO PUBLIC ARRESTS or HIGH VISIBILITY. Hence less ICE troubles at repub states.

Democratic states -- they actively discourage co-operation to ICE agents. They refuse to share local data with ICE officials. Hence ICE has to do other things within the legal limits of their work. This forces ICE to conduct community arrests, workplace raids, or street operations, which are more PUBLIC with HIGH VISIBILITY-hence spark protests. They have little choice due to democrtaic states not cooperating. Democrtaic apparatus see this as good thing to fight the repub party POTUS . There is no other reason other than this.They could have done same as in obama ERA. But instead they protect the illegals , organise street protests. Excess do happen as ICE are with no data to catch illegals. Their role and purpose is catch illegals among other things- Because of lack of data - ICE resort to catching anyone suspected- this becomes non-white unfortunately (due to american history) and those who obstruct them including whites get the raw end of their high handedness. Their is lot of tension and anxiety amongst ICE officials also as they have no data from democratic states to help them. It is not easy for ICE officials also.

IOW democratic apparatus baits ICE to kill and injure people publicly which suits them very well politically. PUBLIC perception becomes negative easily.

During obama ERA lot of deportations occurred because both parties cooperated. Now with repub POTUS only repub states cooperate hence less deportations.

{reminds moi of illegals from neighbouring countries in Bharat and certain communities harboring them. stone throwing pelting riots start once Bharatiya police enter their area. scamgress leftists and andolanjeevis agitate and Bharatiya Police get injured. In uncle land - reverse happens - as ICE officials have firepower.}

many of the above are common sense without resorting too much of digging for data.

3 things which moi normally try to do- sometimes I fail also-
1) datas which are presented
2) which datas are avoided
3) what is the dominant narrative weaving thru the data .

I do find lot of data presented with narrative from our democratic friends is incomplete or one sided. ( I have supported democrats and paid money to their campaigns also- likely much more than majority of democratic supporters here)

My apologies if I am preachy- guess this is due to one of my roles as teacher where I inform students to develop common sense more than data presentation. See both sides of arguments etc. I dont give much marks to knowledge without simple reasoning/common sense.
Just because all are doing the same does not mean they are correct. Conversely no one is doing - does not mean they are incorrect.

I request many Indian americans to talk more about India Usa realtionships. I prefer to avoid being drawn into republican democratic disputes and fights here. We have a bigger thing to work on and discuss India-Usa as countries.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 28 Jan 2026 05:18
by krisna
some comments when I repeatedly have said sona bandar is very useful for India - both in first term and now in 2nd term.

This term - his usefulness :lol:

Sona bandar is good for India. No particular order -

1) his antcis have driven away traditonal partners, created a major trust deficit

2) Intra country fights with elephnats and donkeys saps their energies


3) khalis have been kept quiet.

4) Lot of anti sanatani actvities from democrats have less visibility - they do exist in academics and universities but less visible and less monies from govt. These type of democrats are devout christians missionaries socilaists muslims etc . Soros gang and other ngos are waiting in sidelines operating on their own without support from govt machinery ( soros and other ngos got monies from democratic govt indirectly thru various programmes)


5) India is lucky to have Namo capitalisng on making India a better place- hence lot of trade deals have been done over years. Ex - India EU deal is not due to sona bandar- this was ongoing for 2 decades- during this time things have changed for europe. India is attractive for various reasons. Sona bandar is just the POTUS during this time making it look like he is responsible. Both EU and India have responsible leaders . yes Russia Ukraine war refugees crisis riots and uncle hand are dominant here. With removal of uncle hand over EU policies it made sense for EU towards India. Sona Bandar made it happen quickly rather than delay for some more time. He is a facilitator only.

6) previous POTUSES have always used economic sanctions with impunity if other nations dont follow "their rules". Russia though a strong regional power became a victim which ended with ukraine invasion. It got sanctions seizure of assets over 300 million dollars denial of SWIFT mechnaism etc . All countries were already wary of this. Sona Bandar only amplified it loudly.


7) India already had FTA with many countries before sona bandar or was irrelvant in the FTAs. EU-India came durng this major rift.

8 ) canada already had trade talks ongoing for years but democratic socilaist turdiot spoilt it and trade talks stalled for over 2 years. Carney is more pragmatic and has made amends. All in canada govt -some of whom were in canada pappu govt are now more warm and friendly to India. Khalistanis are purposely cultivated to harass sanatanis particiularly as they form amjore support base of Namo in India. From antagonistic attitude and khalistanis activation to being India friendly is due to sona bandar. :rotfl:

9) Many nations are warming towards BRICS(irrespective of sona bandar- was a general trend ). This becomes more easy now due to this sona bandar. Venezulea-maduro paid the price for using non dollar purchases for oil. This only delays but does not stop BRICS march.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 28 Jan 2026 05:20
by Amber G.
USA lost over 10,000 STEM PhDs from the federal workforce in a single year.
Never thought the U.S. would ever allow this type of brain drain to occur - but here we are.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 28 Jan 2026 06:22
by Jay
krisna wrote: 28 Jan 2026 04:48 I request many Indian americans to talk more about India Usa realtionships. I prefer to avoid being drawn into republican democratic disputes and fights here. We have a bigger thing to work on and discuss India-Usa as countries.
Krisna ji, no offense meant, but you might consider following your own advice and head to the India-US relations thread if that's more your nimbu pani!

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 28 Jan 2026 08:51
by drnayar
Amber G. wrote: 28 Jan 2026 05:20 USA lost over 10,000 STEM PhDs from the federal workforce in a single year.
Never thought the U.S. would ever allow this type of brain drain to occur - but here we are.
I think they have built up a certain level of competency in technology esp semiconductors and military , futuristic ones that can keep up their primacy in niche areas of force projection. ,as it recognises it no longer can be the leader in most STEM fields, they are giving ground and probably never regain those.