Re: Understanding the US - Again
Posted: 25 Jan 2026 09:18
"specter". Sounds like Bond. Jay Bond. Shaken, not stirred.
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Note that the legal age of consent in California is 18. So the marriages of minors when there is pregnancy necessary involves statutory rape, if not worse.California law requires a person under 18 years of age to obtain consent from at least one parent or guardian and permission in the form of a court order. Granting permission for a minor to marry or establish a domestic partnership is entirely within the discretion of the court.
Per researchers:Advocacy groups and journalists have repeatedly noted that no official statistics exist on:
How many minors marry each year
The ages of those minors
How often courts approve requests
Demographic breakdowns
In 2024, California passed SB‑575, requiring the State Registrar to count and publish:
The number of minors married between 2019–2024
Each minor’s age and gender
Annual reports going forward
In states without a strict minimum age (like California), judges often approve marriages when:
There is a pregnancy
Parents support the marriage
The minor is 16 or 17
nvestigations by outlets such as the Associated Press, PBS Frontline, and The Sacramento Bee have reported that:
California courts have approved marriages for minors younger than 16, including early‑teen girls.
Some cases involved pregnancy, which historically increased the likelihood of judicial approval.
Organizations that work directly with forced‑marriage survivors — especially Unchained At Last — have documented:
California cases involving 13‑, 14‑, and 15‑year‑old girls married to adult men.
Survivors who later sought help after being married as young teens in California.
Researchers reviewing older county‑level marriage records (especially pre‑1980) have found:
Multiple instances of marriages involving minors under 16.
Some records showing ages as low as 12 or 13, particularly in rural counties.
These are archival findings, not modern cases, but they are still documented.
During debates over California child‑marriage reform (2017–2024), lawmakers and legal advocates testified that:
Courts have approved marriages for children under 16.
Some cases involved significant age gaps between the minor and the adult spouse.
These statements were made on the record in committee hearings.
Missing forest for trees.
That's a very specific/microcosm/rather small example. The broader "entertainment" and "hospitality" industry (music, film, media, hotel, casino, p***ography, prostitution whether legalized or not) is obviously well known to have issues of sexual abuse of both adults and minors. The current US president actually worked in that industry previously. "Marriageable age" is not the issue in this industry, the abusers don't usually get married to the abused victims.vera_k wrote: ↑25 Jan 2026 23:24 ^ How so?
The problem is rampant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_in_the_American_film_industry
#Pakistan and #Bangladesh are seemingly pursuing their #AntiIndia Agenda independently. However when seen from an overarching view point it is clear that it is the #USA which is orchestrating and promoting an agenda in both these countries which reinforces anti #India standpoints there. The USA is carrying out a pincer move against India. Be that as it may, #China is waiting in the wings to take over from USA when its interest will wane eventually. There should be clarity in Indian thinking that the US pincer is here to stay.
"On December 19, DHS said that 622,000 noncitizens had been deported since Trump took office, a high—but not historic—number. It is below the 778,000 repatriations carried out in the final full fiscal year of the Biden administration, and well short of the Trump team’s pledge of 1 million deportations per year. The administration’s deportation number likely includes noncitizens turned away at U.S. borders and at airports; limited release of immigration enforcement data means it is unclear who is being counted and how."KL Dubey wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 03:18 I guess the issue relevant to BRF is the fact that the enforcement going on in Minneapolis and a few other places is disregarding US citizen/non-citizen, its about people of color (which will include Indians) and foreign-looking/sounding people living in the US. Some white people protesting this enforcement behavior have also been affected (and killed).
Its not a "gain", its a "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger", "a blessing in disguise", or an "eye-opener".
Bhai, mujhe nahin pataa. ye sab phaltu ki baatein hain.A_Gupta wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 03:31"On December 19, DHS said that 622,000 noncitizens had been deported since Trump took office, a high—but not historic—number. It is below the 778,000 repatriations carried out in the final full fiscal year of the Biden administration, and well short of the Trump team’s pledge of 1 million deportations per year. The administration’s deportation number likely includes noncitizens turned away at U.S. borders and at airports; limited release of immigration enforcement data means it is unclear who is being counted and how."KL Dubey wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 03:18 I guess the issue relevant to BRF is the fact that the enforcement going on in Minneapolis and a few other places is disregarding US citizen/non-citizen, its about people of color (which will include Indians) and foreign-looking/sounding people living in the US. Some white people protesting this enforcement behavior have also been affected (and killed).
How many people were killed during the Biden administration by ICE? The additional important point relevant to BRF is that Trump is deliberately creating a reign of terror.
SEOUL - Merely three months after South Korea celebrated the securing of a trade deal with the United States to lower US-imposed reciprocal tariffs from 25 per cent to 15 per cent, fresh uncertainty has set in.
At a ground-breaking ceremony for Micron Technology’s new semiconductor plant in Syracuse, New York, on Jan 16, US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick threatened new levies for companies exporting chips to the US.
“Everyone who wants to build memory has two choices: They can pay a 100 per cent tariff, or they can build in America,” Mr Lutnick had said, repeating comments made a day earlier in an interview with CNBC.
And the govt is lying and lying and lying about what happened.Amber G. wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 06:09 - Alex Jeffrey Pretti was a US citizen.
- He was 37 years old.
- He was an intensive care nurse.
- He had a permit to carry a weapon.
- He did not draw the weapon.
- ICE agents removed his weapon from its holster before they shot him.
Make no mistake: an American citizen was murdered by the U.S. government today.
This reminds me, a few years back, my neighbor's daughter had a baby at 17. Her boy friend was 25, and studying in a community college. They thought over the situation and decided to accept. Now, they could have called the Police and reported it as rape. But the daughter would not agree to file charges, and they had to think of the grand kid. I think she was trying to complete her high school. In California teen pregnancy is common due to sexual activity without protection, but marriage at an early age is not. Here in this case the uncommon fact was the age difference.
There are several incorrect assumptions and conclusions in your post, but I want to address this one first.krisna wrote: ↑26 Jan 2026 02:47
6) About ICE and related violence- It depends which parties support ICE. During ombaba term as president both parties- yes elephants and donkeys whole heartedly supported his illegals deportation drive. hence he was very successful because everyone across political divide supported him on this issue . he is called as deportation presidnet and other names. But with sona bandar the very same democrats prevent ICE from carrying out their duties in their states. ICE are from the govt -hence have to follow rules etc.Excesses do happen- has always happened over the years and various POTUSes. It becomes acute when a political party and their supporters actively oppose them in carrying out their duties.This can lead to unnecessary deaths sad but true and happens.
What is impossible to convey is that it’s so much worse than what you see via social media. The media simply can’t tell the story of the hundreds of unmarked SUVs rolling around the metro on a daily basis, beating and kidnapping women, children, elderly, and citizens alike.
Every day, a dozen or more cars are left idling with doors open and smashed windows in subzero temps. Flashbangs are routinely being thrown into homes where no warrant exists, oftentimes traumatizing families inside. Parents now instinctively know to shout the names of their children and school while being disappeared, hoping a bystander will go to that school to make sure the child isn’t left unattended for days at a time, not knowing where their parent went.
Chemical weapons are being used on peaceful bystanders to the point where we don’t even report it anymore. The same with automatic weapons being unholstered and pointed between the eyeballs of US citizens.
Schools with high immigrant populations have mostly closed, and children of color in predominantly white districts don’t come to school anymore. Where school is taking place, parents form human chains at pickup and drop-off, both to look for ICE activity and subsequently ensure they are taken due to “obstructing federal officers” instead of the children.
The first death in ICE custody (Victor Manuel Diaz) has been recorded due to the brutality of the beatings during the arrest and lack of subsequent medical care, and there are more to come.
Right now, it’s chaos that is akin to the suspension of habeas corpus. Lawyers can’t get to their clients, and oftentimes ICE can’t find them.
Second, our learning thus far — should this come to your city at some point in the future — is that no one is coming to save you or your city. This realization was rock bottom for our city through this whole ordeal. Folks smarter than me can probably explain why, buy my cheap-seats view is that state and local officials are prohibited by law from interfering with legal federal enforcement activities, and the current game of illegal chicken is deliberately designed to incite and escalate “blue on blue” violence as a pretext for martial law.
So far, I believe our community understands the game and is denying victory through non-violent means, lawsuits, etc. In the meantime, we are left to grind it out in the streets.
ICE operates at federal level. The sanctuary cities policy operates at state city level .6) About ICE and related violence- It depends which parties support ICE. During ombaba term as president both parties- yes elephants and donkeys whole heartedly supported his illegals deportation drive. hence he was very successful because everyone across political divide supported him on this issue . he is called as deportation presidnet and other names. But with sona bandar the very same democrats prevent ICE from carrying out their duties in their states. ICE are from the govt -hence have to follow rules etc.Excesses do happen- has always happened over the years and various POTUSes. It becomes acute when a political party and their supporters actively oppose them in carrying out their duties.This can lead to unnecessary deaths sad but true and happens.
Krisna ji, no offense meant, but you might consider following your own advice and head to the India-US relations thread if that's more your nimbu pani!
I think they have built up a certain level of competency in technology esp semiconductors and military , futuristic ones that can keep up their primacy in niche areas of force projection. ,as it recognises it no longer can be the leader in most STEM fields, they are giving ground and probably never regain those.